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Old 1713 - Two Brothers Brewing Company

Old 1713Old 1713

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BA SCORE
82
good

44 Ratings
THE BROS
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no score

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Ratings: 44
Reviews: 16
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 11.14%


Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: emerge077 on 07-15-2012)
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Ratings: 44 | Reviews: 16 | Show All Ratings:
Reviews by JohnnyHopps:
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JohnnyHopps

Indiana

2.95/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I consider myself a fan of this style of beer. However, I have never had a Scottish IPA, which is what this one seems like. The hops kill everything I like about a Scottish Ale in this one.

Poured from the bottle into a pint glass, the beer was a murky brown color with little head or carbonation. The aroma was mildly malty, not really an attention getter. I was rather shocked on the initial taste. Expecting the smooth toasted malts, I instead received a jolt of hops like pale ale. By far, this was more hoppy than malty. There is some potential here. Upon their revelation, the dark toasted malts are quite tasty with hints of toffee and biscuit. Unfortunately, the malts are masked. The malts are more apparent in the aftertaste, but this is not what I was expecting.

Serving type: bottle

11-05-2012 00:26:20 | More by JohnnyHopps
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DarthGuitarHero

Minnesota

3.25/5  rDev -9.5%

03-07-2014 15:18:48 | More by DarthGuitarHero
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remitrom

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

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Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

07-04-2013 01:29:13 | More by jschott75
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Brenden

Ohio

3.79/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

This brew is a pretty red-brown in color and pretty dense-looking. The tan head is more than moderately sized and completely solid with excellent retention. Lacing remains on the glass via steady patching and some spotting.
This has the Wee Heavy profile and character and does a good job with it, though it could gain from more depth. On a hefty malt support are mostly a variety of big (though not juicy) fruits along with a light metallic note before more specifically dark fruits notes, dates and raisins and maybe soemthing like cherry. There's a little caramel as well. There also seems to be a floral component in the gentle hops bitterness. It doesn't go too sweet or boozy, but I think this is a case in which, in attemptimg balance, a little of the edge was lost. It's still a good beer and a good example of the style.
The maltiness is evident in the body's density and feel; it results in a big, nearly full-bodied beer. It's also both creamy and crisp, and consistently each.

Serving type: bottle

06-20-2013 23:34:23 | More by Brenden
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WKole81

Illinois

3/5  rDev -16.4%

05-25-2013 04:47:35 | More by WKole81
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Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

05-01-2013 05:48:05 | More by spycow
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coffygrinder

Illinois

4/5  rDev +11.4%

04-23-2013 11:14:27 | More by coffygrinder
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superspak

Michigan

3.8/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle into snifter, bottled in July 2012. Pours slightly cloudy reddish orange color with a 1-2 finger dense off cream colored head with great retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass. Aromas of caramel, raisin, pear, toast, brown sugar, biscuit, nuttiness, light chocolate, floral, herbal, light pepper, and toasted earthiness. Nice aromas with good balance and complexity of malt with fruity/hop notes; doesn’t smell overly sweet. Taste of caramel, golden raisin, pear, brown sugar, toffee, biscuit, nuttiness, toasted grain, light chocolate, floral, pepper, and toasted earthiness. Light amount of pine bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, light fruits, brown sugar, toffee, biscuit, nuttiness, light chocolate, toasted grain, pepper, floral, and earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of malt/fruity flavors; with moderate floral/spicy hop balance and zero cloying flavors present after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a lightly creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with hardly any warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very good scotch ale. Good balance and complexity of malt/fruity flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A nicely enjoyable offering.

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2013 05:28:50 | More by superspak
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vande

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

03-31-2013 01:02:59 | More by vande
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pathman

Ohio

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

02-15-2013 00:25:56 | More by pathman
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thebouch01

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -16.4%

02-10-2013 04:50:52 | More by thebouch01
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Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -16.4%

02-09-2013 01:04:58 | More by dtx00
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Illinois

3/5  rDev -16.4%

01-20-2013 18:41:28 | More by TheSSG
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WoodBrew

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Old 1713 is a retro release for the two brothers. The beer poured a rich clear amber with thin slightly off-white head that is lacing nicely. The smell was mostly non-existent...some slight caramel malt. The taste starts very malty with hints of caramel....then the hops and alcohol turn the beer slightly bitter which helps to clear the pallet nicely. The mouthfeel was nice....a fuller body with smooth carbonation. Overall it is a nice Scotch Ale.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2012 03:30:02 | More by WoodBrew
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stortore

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

12-24-2012 03:24:14 | More by stortore
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akttr

Michigan

3/5  rDev -16.4%

12-22-2012 04:35:08 | More by akttr
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dmartin118

Illinois

3/5  rDev -16.4%

11-24-2012 21:55:27 | More by dmartin118
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JuniperJesus

Illinois

4/5  rDev +11.4%

11-15-2012 04:00:40 | More by JuniperJesus
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Bung

North Carolina

3.53/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz. Pretty clear dark red pour. Layer of white. Laces the glass just a bit.

Aroma, toasted malt, toffee and some herbal hop notes.

Taste, a little herbal and pine up front. Not overbearing really though. A nice toffee, leather, toasted malt the rest of the way. As it warms some pumpernickel and light cocoa comes out.

About mid bodied. Coats enough. Easy to drink with the more balanced than usual nature. Abv is well hidden.

A more balanced rather than malt bomb. I prefer the malt bomb, but this really wasn't bad.

Serving type: bottle

11-05-2012 03:30:13 | More by Bung
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benfairbank


4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

11-01-2012 22:06:17 | More by benfairbank
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Oboogie

Minnesota

3.25/5  rDev -9.5%

10-27-2012 13:40:24 | More by Oboogie
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mjryan

Minnesota

3.78/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I've never been to Scotland. I really haven't had that many Scotish brewed strong ales. The ones I have had were okay, but I suspect time was not on their side. I have however had a good handful of North American brewed versions of strong Scottish ale, and I wonder if this beer misses the mark a bit or if other N. American. versions miss the mark. See, this beer actually has some hops. I'm not talking IPA level hops here, but it certainly has more of them than I've come expect from the style. Generally, I don't like strong Scottish ales. They seem sweet, overly malty and frankly, unpalatable. Seriously, are true Scottish ales essentially low hopped malt bombs? Anyway, this one brings the balance back towards the middle of the balance spectrum. Doggy biscuit, honey and caramel dominate the nose. It's nice and what I expected. Starts sweet, with caramel and light milk chocolate flavours. But wait, there are some hops there. Woody, garden herb and earth (like dirt, but in a forest after an Autumn rain way). Subtle mind you, but that's what I'm getting. Bitterness as well. It's almost drying, but caramel sweetness stills finishes the sip with a touch of chalky bakers chocolate. It's really nice actually. While this beer brings the balance a bit better than most of the others I've had that fall into this style, it's still something of a desert beer. Yeah, try it. It's well made and tasty.

Serving type: bottle

10-14-2012 01:51:49 | More by mjryan
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BuckeyeSlim

Ohio

3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle poured into a NB snifter.

A - Pours a light copper color with full carbonation that produces a two-finger head of rich, ecru foam that slowly collapses, leaving full rings of lace on the side and pillows on the surface. The beer is a rosewood and low sunset color, and clear.

S - Well-toasted caramel malts and brown sugar jump into the nose. Hints of white pepper and cinnamon spice along with dusky floral hops follow and demand notice.

T - Dark, dry floral, almost resin hops define the taste, with the toasted, slightly burnt caramel and butterscotch malts supporting them in the background. This is a NW US version of the style - hop-forward and favoring bitter. Slightly boozy on the finish, but the alcohol - almost 8% - is well-hidden.

M - Fizzy, almost foamy fills the mouth. Full carbonation, just as the pour suggested. Lighter body than expected. Hops really clean off the palette for the finish, and it's their bitterness that lingers on the tongue with just a touch of dark caramel. Well-blended, solid structure.

O - The quality of the components is readily apparent. It's definitely an American take rather than a traditional one on the style, with the hops taking the lead and the malts in the supporting role. I want to like this beer more than I do because it's very well-made, but I much prefer my Scotch ales being malt-forward. Still, definitely worth tasting, and would make an excellent gift for someone who likes his hops.

Serving type: bottle

10-10-2012 02:00:25 | More by BuckeyeSlim
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Rayek

Colorado

3.5/5  rDev -2.5%

10-09-2012 20:58:33 | More by Rayek
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Old 1713 from Two Brothers Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 44 ratings.