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Old 1713 - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Old 1713Old 1713

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BA SCORE
82
good

47 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 47
Reviews: 17
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 10.58%
Wants: 1
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: emerge077 on 07-15-2012)
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Reviews by beagle75:
Photo of beagle75
3.23/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bomber into a tulip glass.

A: Clear, dark amber color with a loose peripheral ring of off-white bubbles. Scant lacing remains on the glass.

S: Very fruity, like cooked apples, with definite caramel character as well.

T: Begins off-dry, with early esters that match the fruit of the smell followed too soon by particularly spicy acidity. A drying trend begins early in the middle causing the early malt qualities to become diminished. The finish is too clean and bitter, a little herbaceous.

M: Thin to medium viscosity, balanced if a little syrupy and acidic, with moderate carbonation.

D/O: This mid-strength scotch ale begins alright but loses its best qualities too soon. Bitterness reaches uncharacteristic levels as malt is pre-empted.

beagle75, Aug 23, 2012
More User Reviews:
Photo of BuckeyeSlim
3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle poured into a NB snifter.

A - Pours a light copper color with full carbonation that produces a two-finger head of rich, ecru foam that slowly collapses, leaving full rings of lace on the side and pillows on the surface. The beer is a rosewood and low sunset color, and clear.

S - Well-toasted caramel malts and brown sugar jump into the nose. Hints of white pepper and cinnamon spice along with dusky floral hops follow and demand notice.

T - Dark, dry floral, almost resin hops define the taste, with the toasted, slightly burnt caramel and butterscotch malts supporting them in the background. This is a NW US version of the style - hop-forward and favoring bitter. Slightly boozy on the finish, but the alcohol - almost 8% - is well-hidden.

M - Fizzy, almost foamy fills the mouth. Full carbonation, just as the pour suggested. Lighter body than expected. Hops really clean off the palette for the finish, and it's their bitterness that lingers on the tongue with just a touch of dark caramel. Well-blended, solid structure.

O - The quality of the components is readily apparent. It's definitely an American take rather than a traditional one on the style, with the hops taking the lead and the malts in the supporting role. I want to like this beer more than I do because it's very well-made, but I much prefer my Scotch ales being malt-forward. Still, definitely worth tasting, and would make an excellent gift for someone who likes his hops.

BuckeyeSlim, Oct 10, 2012
Photo of JuniperJesus
4/5  rDev +11.4%

JuniperJesus, Nov 15, 2012
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.08/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a slightly dense dark caramel body with a bubbly off-white head that soon fades to a thick ring. There is a gentle carbonation of tiny bubbles that glide to the surface.

S- The clean aroma has some mineral notes and a dark toast and malt note in the finish.

T- The big bitterness doesn't have much other hop character to it with a dry dark toasted malt note underneath. There is a bitterness that lingers still without much hop flavor. As the beer grows a mineral water flavor comes through.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a scrubbing fizz and no alcohol heat.

O- This beer has a big hop bitterness and fizz that cover up all the much softer flavors. There are no characteristics of a classic Scottish ale but regardless of any style guidelines it just doesn't have any good hop or malt flavors. A bit tough to drink because of the bitterness.

rhoadsrage, Aug 02, 2012
Photo of Brenden
3.79/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

This brew is a pretty red-brown in color and pretty dense-looking. The tan head is more than moderately sized and completely solid with excellent retention. Lacing remains on the glass via steady patching and some spotting.
This has the Wee Heavy profile and character and does a good job with it, though it could gain from more depth. On a hefty malt support are mostly a variety of big (though not juicy) fruits along with a light metallic note before more specifically dark fruits notes, dates and raisins and maybe soemthing like cherry. There's a little caramel as well. There also seems to be a floral component in the gentle hops bitterness. It doesn't go too sweet or boozy, but I think this is a case in which, in attemptimg balance, a little of the edge was lost. It's still a good beer and a good example of the style.
The maltiness is evident in the body's density and feel; it results in a big, nearly full-bodied beer. It's also both creamy and crisp, and consistently each.

Brenden, Jun 21, 2013
Photo of Oboogie
3.25/5  rDev -9.5%

Oboogie, Oct 27, 2012
Photo of WoodBrew
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Old 1713 is a retro release for the two brothers. The beer poured a rich clear amber with thin slightly off-white head that is lacing nicely. The smell was mostly non-existent...some slight caramel malt. The taste starts very malty with hints of caramel....then the hops and alcohol turn the beer slightly bitter which helps to clear the pallet nicely. The mouthfeel was nice....a fuller body with smooth carbonation. Overall it is a nice Scotch Ale.

WoodBrew, Dec 30, 2012
Photo of Gonzoillini
4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

Gonzoillini, Aug 07, 2012
Photo of bashiba
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured a deep clean mahagony With a light sticky white.

The smell is great. Big and malty With lots of toasted caramel.

The flavor is a big drop of from the smell. Its thin with dry toasted malts And a long lingering bitterness. Surprisingly shallow flavor profile.

The mouth feel is very dry and thin.

Not a great Scotch ale.

bashiba, Aug 23, 2012
Photo of larryarms847
3.68/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Appearance is rust red and rather flat, expected from a scotch ale.

I immediately smell the scotch, Two Brothers didn't even attempt to hide it, not very inviting honestly.

Tastes like scotch and flat beer, too much malt, not enough hop to counteract that fact.

Mouthfeel is a total malt bomb, I'll pass.

Overall I love me some TB, but this was not a good showing from them.

larryarms847, May 04, 2014
Photo of dtx00
3/5  rDev -16.4%

dtx00, Feb 09, 2013
Photo of Bung
3.53/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz. Pretty clear dark red pour. Layer of white. Laces the glass just a bit.

Aroma, toasted malt, toffee and some herbal hop notes.

Taste, a little herbal and pine up front. Not overbearing really though. A nice toffee, leather, toasted malt the rest of the way. As it warms some pumpernickel and light cocoa comes out.

About mid bodied. Coats enough. Easy to drink with the more balanced than usual nature. Abv is well hidden.

A more balanced rather than malt bomb. I prefer the malt bomb, but this really wasn't bad.

Bung, Nov 05, 2012
Photo of emerge077
3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bomber from Best Value Liquors, poured into a mug. Dark copper color, caramel tinged amber. It has a small head then it settles to to a thin tan skim. A ring of lace forms inside the glass. Coverage is pretty good, translates to solid head retention.

Nutty, toasty malt aroma, lightly sweet nougat. Mostly dry and toasty grains though.

Clean dry flavor, malt foward with nutty traces lending some bitterness in the aftertaste. Walnut, toast, light hoppy bitterness. Light to medium bodied with a light amount of carbonation. Easily drinkable, comes across like a burly munich dunkel with less sweetness. Dry overall with a hint of sweetness upront that disappears quickly. It's a good Scottish Ale, clean with a pleasant taste. Worth trying once at least...

emerge077, Jul 15, 2012
Photo of coffygrinder
4/5  rDev +11.4%

coffygrinder, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of benfairbank
4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

benfairbank, Nov 01, 2012
Photo of sgoro
4/5  rDev +11.4%

sgoro, Aug 04, 2012
Photo of stortore
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

stortore, Dec 24, 2012
Photo of dabeers
4/5  rDev +11.4%

dabeers, Jul 19, 2012
Photo of pathman
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

pathman, Feb 15, 2013
Photo of johunnic
3.25/5  rDev -9.5%

johunnic, Aug 21, 2012
Photo of WKole81
3/5  rDev -16.4%

WKole81, May 25, 2013
Photo of harrylee773
4/5  rDev +11.4%

harrylee773, Sep 28, 2012
Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a shaker pint glass at Atlas Brewing Company.

The final stop on the Second Annual Bachelor Party Free-For-All! Quite the ride, indeed. This stuff pours a clear amber-copper topped by over a finger of cream-white foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, and very light pine sap. The taste brings in more of the same, with more pine sap coming through, and some light lemon peel joining the party. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a sorta/kinda dry finish. Overall, a nice Scottish ale, nothing amazing, but something generally enjoyable.

TMoney2591, Jul 24, 2012
Photo of TastyIsBeer
3/5  rDev -16.4%

TastyIsBeer, Sep 29, 2012
Photo of vic21234
3.88/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a snifter.

A- Pours a dark reddish brown with a finger's worth of frothy head that hangs around for awhile. Small amount of lacing is noticeable around the edges of the glass.

S- Aroma is mostly of bready malts and a hint of caramel.

T- Caramel malts overpower all initially, then leads way to a slight hop kick. Alcohol is there but not overly apparent.

M- Malty, bready, medium bodied with nice carbonation. Pretty drinkable for a scotch ale.

I don't get my hands on Scotch ales much so I cant really compare to others, but this is a nice beer from one of my local breweries. I would seek it out if you're into Scotches.

vic21234, Jul 30, 2012
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Old 1713 from Two Brothers Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 47 ratings.