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Old 1713 - Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Old 1713Old 1713

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BA SCORE
82
good

46 Ratings
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Ratings: 46
Reviews: 17
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 10.86%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy |  7.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: emerge077 on 07-15-2012)
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3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

spycow, May 01, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

jschott75, Jul 04, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

vande, Mar 31, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

JimGlonke, Jul 25, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

DoctorEvil65, Sep 06, 2014
Photo of mjryan
3.78/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I've never been to Scotland. I really haven't had that many Scotish brewed strong ales. The ones I have had were okay, but I suspect time was not on their side. I have however had a good handful of North American brewed versions of strong Scottish ale, and I wonder if this beer misses the mark a bit or if other N. American. versions miss the mark. See, this beer actually has some hops. I'm not talking IPA level hops here, but it certainly has more of them than I've come expect from the style. Generally, I don't like strong Scottish ales. They seem sweet, overly malty and frankly, unpalatable. Seriously, are true Scottish ales essentially low hopped malt bombs? Anyway, this one brings the balance back towards the middle of the balance spectrum. Doggy biscuit, honey and caramel dominate the nose. It's nice and what I expected. Starts sweet, with caramel and light milk chocolate flavours. But wait, there are some hops there. Woody, garden herb and earth (like dirt, but in a forest after an Autumn rain way). Subtle mind you, but that's what I'm getting. Bitterness as well. It's almost drying, but caramel sweetness stills finishes the sip with a touch of chalky bakers chocolate. It's really nice actually. While this beer brings the balance a bit better than most of the others I've had that fall into this style, it's still something of a desert beer. Yeah, try it. It's well made and tasty.

mjryan, Oct 14, 2012
Photo of Brenden
3.79/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

This brew is a pretty red-brown in color and pretty dense-looking. The tan head is more than moderately sized and completely solid with excellent retention. Lacing remains on the glass via steady patching and some spotting.
This has the Wee Heavy profile and character and does a good job with it, though it could gain from more depth. On a hefty malt support are mostly a variety of big (though not juicy) fruits along with a light metallic note before more specifically dark fruits notes, dates and raisins and maybe soemthing like cherry. There's a little caramel as well. There also seems to be a floral component in the gentle hops bitterness. It doesn't go too sweet or boozy, but I think this is a case in which, in attemptimg balance, a little of the edge was lost. It's still a good beer and a good example of the style.
The maltiness is evident in the body's density and feel; it results in a big, nearly full-bodied beer. It's also both creamy and crisp, and consistently each.

Brenden, Jun 21, 2013
Photo of superspak
3.8/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle into snifter, bottled in July 2012. Pours slightly cloudy reddish orange color with a 1-2 finger dense off cream colored head with great retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass. Aromas of caramel, raisin, pear, toast, brown sugar, biscuit, nuttiness, light chocolate, floral, herbal, light pepper, and toasted earthiness. Nice aromas with good balance and complexity of malt with fruity/hop notes; doesn’t smell overly sweet. Taste of caramel, golden raisin, pear, brown sugar, toffee, biscuit, nuttiness, toasted grain, light chocolate, floral, pepper, and toasted earthiness. Light amount of pine bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, light fruits, brown sugar, toffee, biscuit, nuttiness, light chocolate, toasted grain, pepper, floral, and earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of malt/fruity flavors; with moderate floral/spicy hop balance and zero cloying flavors present after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a lightly creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with hardly any warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very good scotch ale. Good balance and complexity of malt/fruity flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A nicely enjoyable offering.

superspak, Apr 10, 2013
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3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle poured into a NB snifter.

A - Pours a light copper color with full carbonation that produces a two-finger head of rich, ecru foam that slowly collapses, leaving full rings of lace on the side and pillows on the surface. The beer is a rosewood and low sunset color, and clear.

S - Well-toasted caramel malts and brown sugar jump into the nose. Hints of white pepper and cinnamon spice along with dusky floral hops follow and demand notice.

T - Dark, dry floral, almost resin hops define the taste, with the toasted, slightly burnt caramel and butterscotch malts supporting them in the background. This is a NW US version of the style - hop-forward and favoring bitter. Slightly boozy on the finish, but the alcohol - almost 8% - is well-hidden.

M - Fizzy, almost foamy fills the mouth. Full carbonation, just as the pour suggested. Lighter body than expected. Hops really clean off the palette for the finish, and it's their bitterness that lingers on the tongue with just a touch of dark caramel. Well-blended, solid structure.

O - The quality of the components is readily apparent. It's definitely an American take rather than a traditional one on the style, with the hops taking the lead and the malts in the supporting role. I want to like this beer more than I do because it's very well-made, but I much prefer my Scotch ales being malt-forward. Still, definitely worth tasting, and would make an excellent gift for someone who likes his hops.

BuckeyeSlim, Oct 10, 2012
Photo of emerge077
3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bomber from Best Value Liquors, poured into a mug. Dark copper color, caramel tinged amber. It has a small head then it settles to to a thin tan skim. A ring of lace forms inside the glass. Coverage is pretty good, translates to solid head retention.

Nutty, toasty malt aroma, lightly sweet nougat. Mostly dry and toasty grains though.

Clean dry flavor, malt foward with nutty traces lending some bitterness in the aftertaste. Walnut, toast, light hoppy bitterness. Light to medium bodied with a light amount of carbonation. Easily drinkable, comes across like a burly munich dunkel with less sweetness. Dry overall with a hint of sweetness upront that disappears quickly. It's a good Scottish Ale, clean with a pleasant taste. Worth trying once at least...

emerge077, Jul 15, 2012
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3.88/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into a snifter.

A- Pours a dark reddish brown with a finger's worth of frothy head that hangs around for awhile. Small amount of lacing is noticeable around the edges of the glass.

S- Aroma is mostly of bready malts and a hint of caramel.

T- Caramel malts overpower all initially, then leads way to a slight hop kick. Alcohol is there but not overly apparent.

M- Malty, bready, medium bodied with nice carbonation. Pretty drinkable for a scotch ale.

I don't get my hands on Scotch ales much so I cant really compare to others, but this is a nice beer from one of my local breweries. I would seek it out if you're into Scotches.

vic21234, Jul 30, 2012
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3.95/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a Half Acre tulip.

A- Pours dark ruby, brown color with a 2" light tan head. Lots of blotches and trails of lacing remain all over the glass.

S- Bread, toffee, toasted malts and some vanilla.

T- Sweet toasted malts, caramel and toffee, hint of chocolate, spices and slight hop bitterness at the finish.

M- Medium body and carbonation. Very smooth, creamy and crazy drinkable at almost 8%. This beer goes down so easily.

O- Do not have a ton of scotch ales usually, but this is a very tasty beer. If you can find it I would suggest picking 1 or 3 up.

kawilliams81, Jul 25, 2012
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3.95/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle, #6 in the 15 Beers for 15 Years series

Pours mahogany with ruby hues at the edges of the ale when held to a light. Fluffy beige head holds decent retention and leaves good lacing on the glass. Aromas are earthy, malty, caramel, raisin. Tastes are malty, bready, earthy, caramel, faint cinnamon and pepper on the finish. Medium bodied, exceptionally creamy and smooth. Overall, I thought this was a very good representation of the style, good complexity and great mouth-feel.

barnzy78, Jul 28, 2012
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4/5  rDev +11.4%

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4/5  rDev +11.4%

harrylee773, Sep 28, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +18.4%

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Old 1713 from Two Brothers Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 46 ratings.