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Scratch Beer 4 - 2007 - Tröegs Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

75 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 75
Reviews: 68
rAvg: 4.27
pDev: 7.26%
Wants: 18
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
American Barleywine |  9.40% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: akorsak on 09-29-2007)
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Photo of stakem
3.96/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

During a recent gathering, I opened every vintage of Mouflan in bombers and a friend brought a growler of the 2013 since this year it was not bottled. Thanks go to BA Slatetank for trading me a couple bottles of this scratch 4 some time ago. It was awesome to start the tasting off with the original mouflan recipe.

12oz bottle poured into a mouflan cervoise, the brew appears a clear mahogany color with ruby clarity seen around the edges when held to the light. The cap is compromised of a yellowish froth that leaves stringy lace on the glass.

The smell is raisiny with soft notes of alcohol. Hints of chocolate with a touch of vanilla. It almost feels like it had a barrel aged quality about it. The grain presence is a little dusty giving sight to a minor note of oxidation.

The taste of the brew is quite similar to what the nose suggests with alcohol coming across a bit raisony or prune-like. Faintly like molasses and earth with a bitter herbal touch of hops still present after some 6+ years of sitting in a bottle. Like the aroma, the flavor gets slightly dusty and oxidized in the aftertaste.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Plenty of depth and complexity but having drank it side by side with "younger versions" the brew is showing it's age at this point. It was certainly unique and enjoyable, but I dont forsee it becoming any better with more age at this point.

stakem, Jun 18, 2013
Photo of t0rin0
4/5  rDev -6.3%

t0rin0, Mar 04, 2013
Photo of oline73
4.5/5  rDev +5.4%

oline73, Mar 07, 2012
Photo of Tyrawlings
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Tyrawlings, Feb 16, 2012
Photo of jophish17
3.5/5  rDev -18%

jophish17, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of Gonzoillini
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Gonzoillini, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of Khazadum
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Khazadum, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of brandoman63
4.5/5  rDev +5.4%

brandoman63, Nov 18, 2011
Photo of sulldaddy
4.35/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Im sampling a cellar temp bottle poured into a tulip glass. The beer has been cellared since I bought it 4 years ago.
Pours a deep chestnut with rich ruby highlights. Creamy beige head foams up 2 cm with a gentle pour and fades very slowly leaving some large craters in the foam. Tight lattice shows as the head recedes to a sturdy surface layer.
Aroma is fairly mild but molasses, brown sugar and figs dominate, with no hints of hops or booze.
First sip reveals a lighter body than expected and fine yet fizzy carbonation. Slightly creamy feel on the texture duiring each sip.
Flavor is what I anticipated after the aroma.
Malt flavors with brown sugar, molassess, raisins and some red grape tang. I dont really fine any hops on this one, not sure if they were there fresh or not.
There is a little warming booze on the finish to remind me this is a pretty big b-wine.
I enjoy this beer as a malty big brew and would buy it again if that were an option.

sulldaddy, Jun 18, 2011
Photo of 7ways
3.33/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer has been in my fridge for almost two years, time to finally kill it.

This is much darker than I expected, very deep brown and red. Light oak head with an impressive head and lacing for a 4 year old beer. Lots of chunks.

There is still a detectable hop aroma, but it's mostly pretty fruity. Raisin, prune, and cherry with a lot of caramel.

Fair amount of bitterness left for a 4 year old beer.This tastes almost exactly like Victory Old Horizontal, walking the line between American and English barleywine, with a lot of fruity malt, molasses, some abrasive citrus, and a lingering tang on the finish.

Mouthfeel is full, sticky, and rich.

I really wanted to love this, but it's no better than when I had it fresh in 2007. It's solid, but I still like it's successor, The Flying Mouflan, a lot more.

7ways, Apr 26, 2011
Photo of kkipple
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Massive Mega Scratch Beer Tasting @ the Meat Meet, 8.21.2010. Thanks Unclejedi!

Scores reflect how the beer is drinking NOW, and not when released.

Semi-clear russet, low head, no lace, no bubbles. Low smell, lots of lurking semi-roasted malt and some booze. Some fruit, too. Dates? Big flavor here, nice malt / booze / hop balance, age seems to have mellowed this out. Great interplay of bitter / sweet and virtually no booze to be found. Super. Fine carbonation and leaves a fun caramel-sweet finish with a punch of citrus bitters still. Sticky and chewy. Highly enjoyable... wish I had more!

kkipple, Aug 21, 2010
Photo of wagenvolks
4.25/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a snifter. Thanks to JDV for the local sell!

A loud "hiss" greets me as I pry off the cap--a good sign for a beer approaching 3 years in age. Ruddy chestnut mixed with Indian brown; the color lightens to a ruby plum shade when held up to my desk lamp. A pith of cork-khaki-colored bubbles gathers in the center of the snifter, surrounded by a ring of dense foam. Tiny, sluggish trails of carbonation can be seen dotting the sides of the glass. Outstanding aroma--a near-perfect amount of age adds just the right hint of sherry-like oxidation. Dark fruits join in and include raisin, Bing cherries, and fig. A bit of leafy hoppiness in the background seals the deal.

Great flavor, too, with the yeast esters echoing the notes detected in the aroma. Darker notes of toffee and toasted chocolate malts join the dark fruits. Boozier than expected, too, with a sharp ethanol note accentuated by the zesty carbonation level. A raw bitterness is present from the hops in the finish, and knocks the mouthfeel down a peg (as does the CO2). Body is on the chewy side of medium, and sticks to the gums on the finish. I love aged barleywines, and Scratch #4 has aged wonderfully. It's drinking great now, but this beer will probably last another 3-4 years or so if properly stored.

wagenvolks, Apr 17, 2010
Photo of barleywinefiend
4.5/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Slatetank for this one
Poured a murky deep amber with a small off-white near tan head. Nose is sugary, sweet, fruits, caramel toffee. Taste is sticky with dried fruits, caramel, brown sugar. ABV is just right and so is the balance. Really good barleywine
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Another one down...
Still very good with lots of dark, dried fruits and brown sugar, molasses, booze still a big hit too. Not over the hill yet, prime drinking now.

barleywinefiend, Apr 15, 2010
Photo of nickd717
4.4/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle via trade thanks to JohnGalt1. Yeah Harrisburg! This is the same thing as The Flying Mouflan I'm told, but it was so different than fresh Mouflan that it definitely merits a separate review IMO.

Pours clear dark brown with a nicely formed light tan head sitting on top.

Aroma is really excellent and complex. Dark fruits and sweet caramel malt dominate, along with sherry and faded citrusy hops.

Sweet caramel malts and toffee form the base on this one. Another reviewer mentioned creme caramel, and I get some of that too. This is a little like a decadent dessert in a way. Nuts, raisins, dates, and figs as well. Sherry-like oxidative notes are present at the exact level you would want them to be. Still some citrusy resiny hops in there that add even more complexity.

Smooth and medium-full on the palate with an ever so slight syrupiness and a finish that really sticks with you.

Pretty drinkable stuff. Just an amazing barleywine overall after ~3 years. I have a bottle of Flying Mouflan in the cellar right now, and it's a good beer fresh, but DAMN this ages well, sort of like the exact opposite of the woman most of us married/will marry. Think I'll sit on that til 2012 or so, maybe drink the day before the world's supposed to end or something. It would be a great last beer.

nickd717, Mar 29, 2010
Photo of wisrarebeer
4.58/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: deep copper color, decent head
S: smell was a classic, English-style BW without all the smack of citrus hops, very, very good
T: taste was classic English BW, deep roasted chewy malt, treacle undertones with a good balance of hops. almost had an advanced age in balance to it, no over-the-top citrus hops, reminded me of an aged Bigfoot (5+ years)
M: for a BW, very good, easy drinking, well-rounded
D: I'd buy a case for aging if I could!, but I don't think it would last like TH or Bigfoot in the 10+ year category

wisrarebeer, Jan 08, 2010
Photo of John_M
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed the other night at a tasting over at Slatetank's place.

The beer pours a reddish amber color with good head retention and lacing. Nose is attractive, with perfumy, skunky hops and sweet malt. Can only imagine what this smelled like when it was first released. Flavors replicate the nose, except the beer is now dominated by the sweet malt, but with the hoppy bitterness still pretty much in evidence. The beer is medium bodied, but is otherwise fairly full. Drinkability is OK, but with the alcohol starting to show more and more.

A nice beer, but I think its best days are behind it.

John_M, Dec 05, 2009
Photo of grub
4.18/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

got this one in a recent trade with Slatetank. thanks matt!

12oz bottle. sampled may 18/09.

pours deep reddish brown, somewhat hazy, with a small dense yellow head. the head drops slowly but leaves tons of lace behind.

aroma is great. caramel. toffee. light alcohol. biscuit. toasted multi-grain bread. grapefruit, pine, and orange. bit of earthy character. hint of dark chocolate.

taste is good. light alcohol. just under medium bitterness level, likely mellowed with its time in the cellar. big biscuit and multi-grain bread, lightly toasted. grapefruit and orange. hint of pine. bit of pineapple. hints of chocolate and a light nutty character.

mouthfeel is great. medium-large body. well integrated medium carbonation, silky smooth.

drinkability is good. well balanced, good complexity. i think this one might be just past its peak. it's quite good, but i feel like it might have been even better a few months ago. still, i'm enjoying it regardless. good stuff.

grub, May 19, 2009
Photo of Viggo
4.13/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, big thanks to grub for sharing!

Pours a pretty cloudy rusty reddish brown, kind of muddy, thick light tan head forms, quickly drops to a thick ring around the glass and a thin layer, drops a ton of lacing on the glass, very sticky, looks real nice. Smell is intense, very malty, tons of caramel and grapefruit, biscuity, brown sugar, very rich, dark fruits, some raisin, some floral, buttery, some oak, very earthy, pretty nice stuff. Taste is good to, caramel and brown sugar, some grapefruit, similar to the aroma although not as rich, some biscuits and a touch of alcohol, oak and a touch of vanilla, earthy finish, buttery, a bit weak in the finish. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation, nice body on it, very dry in the finish. I like it but the flavour doesn't live up to the rest of it for me. Thanks Russ!

Viggo, May 18, 2009
Photo of ClockworkOrange
4.4/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into my shaker "pint" glass. Appears the color of cloudy iced tea with two fingers of dense, creamy caramel colored foam. Moderate sticky lacing clings to the inside of my glass as I make my way to the bottom. Smells and tastes of sweet caramelized malts, sugary shortbread, pineapple upside down cake complete with dark candied cherries, orange pith, and bitter piney hops. Fantastic stuff! Rather full bodied with a notch above medium carbonation. Glad to see this one brought back to life as the Flying Mouflan. But even with the beer in front of me closing in on two years in the bottle, it's evident that time has treated it very well. This beer is every bit as delicious fresh as it is with a little age on it.

ClockworkOrange, Apr 18, 2009
Photo of biegaman
4.85/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Scarlet red smeared in blackberry puree - this is perhaps the most sensual and seductive beer I've laid eyes on. Its rich, deep tone and clear, velvety complexion lure the eyes in. Its garnish and emphatic highlights are simply arresting, they arouse temptation.

The head is far more prominent than is customary for a beer this style and strength. It is not only resilient but ornate considering the trail of lacing that is left behind. On the whole, it's extravagant, it's absorbing, it's heart-wrenchingly gorgeous - and I am in love with it.

Oh and its smell! Once again, if it were possible to score the category higher than perfect I most certainly would. You'll have to forgive this review for being self-absorbed, orgasmic blabbering but this is truly becoming an all-engrossing, quasi-mystical experience.

The beer smells and tastes like candied fruits, finely conched chocolate, rich creme caramel and an assortment of tropical sorbets. A secondary cast includes herbal teas, orange peel, creme brulee, cheesecake, roasted pecans and figs. No beer in recent memory has displayed this much flavour and have all of its parts come together into something so seamlessly, impeccably balanced between sweet and bitter.

The beer was released September 2007 and I'm enjoying it April 2009. I had friends caution against its aging. I had other friends who swore it couldn't possibly get any better than it was at the time of our conversation. Well, it turns out both groups were wrong. I'm glad I wasn't aware of what exactly I had all this time ... this is perfect right here and now.

One's enjoyment of any beer really will change on any given day. I'm not sure what factors added up or what set of stars aligned to grant me the enjoyment, savor and gratification I've extracted from this ale. Whatever the case, I'm left at a loss for words. This is among the most beautiful beers that I believe may have ever graced my lips.

Someone get me a phone, I have to call the Troegs brothers and ask them why in God's name was this only made once? Will it be back? This could undoubtedly be the greatest addition to any beer lineup, even one already as impressive as this brewery's. No doubt, Troegs is accomplished, but this is most certainly the brightest jewel in their crown.

biegaman, Apr 08, 2009
Photo of Proteus93
4.33/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one came courtesy CrellMoset and was split with him and dkachur.

A: Very hazy/murky orangish brown. Head is a golden/orange. A pretty nice creamy, tight foam.

S: An intense hop and spiciness. A creamy and soft toffee.

T: A pungent hoppy bitterness and a molten brown sugar/caramel toffee kinda thing. Amazed that hops were still present after this long.. Could have only imagined it fresh. Raisiny and hints of vanilla towards the end. Really tasty.

M + D: Slick, oily and a richer body, great aged and a good sipper with good company.

Proteus93, Mar 22, 2009
Photo of tpd975
4.38/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a nice golden amberish hue with a whispy off white head. Little to no retention but it does manage a bit of lace.

S: Bold hop aromas. Resinous pine with citric notes as well. Hints of gooey caramel hide beneath.

T: I have loved the scratch series and this one does not disappoint. If you like hopped up barleywines you will love this one. Tons of hops up front. Lots of sweet pine, with bits of bitter citrus. Hints of green grass, and just enough caramel malt to barely cut into the hops.

M: Medium to full in body, smooth with a perfect level of carbonation.

D: Rather drinkable, would love to have seen how bold this one was fresh. I just got another bottle in the SuperBowl Squares LIF that I plan to lay down for awhile.

tpd975, Feb 16, 2009
Photo of Hojaminbag
4.35/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is the last of the scratch series I got from Akorsak this summer. Thanks for the brews Adam.

The body is a very deep, dark shade of ruby with quite a bit of sediment floating around. About two fingers of off white head fades down into a ring that crowns the beer. Some decent sheets of lacing are left behind also.

The aroma is fruity and hoppy, rather nice overall.

Once again fruity and hoppy with a chocolately malt backbone and a slight warming bite of alcohol. The hop presence surprises me considering this one is over one year old, but it is there to provide bitterness and a citrusy grapefruit flavor. The fruit is some fig and a touch of cherry. Some tobacco and toffee notes are also there, mixing with the malt flavors. Nice barleywine.

Medium bodied and medium carbonated with a slight alcoholic warming. Probably on the thin side as far as mouthfeel goes for the style.

A nice, drinkable barleywine. I'm glad that this will be brewed again, I'll probably be grabbing a case when it is.

Hojaminbag, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of joepais
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Well thanks to a wonderful Pennsylvanian BA who sent me this (I think it was Dim) I am sorry this bottle was buried deep in the cellar and was before I kept tracks of my trades.
Bottle poured into my Maudite Snifter (I love that glass) produced a skim of lace across the top of a hazy tea colored brown body with some slight teeny bubbles coming from the bottom of the glass

Aromas of malts and caramel sugar hit me strait off. It is kind of funny the flavors of hops are present but no aromas from them. The first thing you taste is a nice sweetness from the grains, then comes the bitter from the hops, and warmth of the alcohol; Great balance

I have been drinking a few barleywine as of late. So I will say that this is somewhat unique in the stronger hops aspect, especially in an aged brew. This is a good barleywine. Not my favorite as of late, but a strong contender. Yes I drink it again

joepais, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of Bierguy5
4.15/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle. Pours a cloudy chestnut color, with a good deal of sediment. Off-white head disappears rather quickly.

Lots of caramel and darker fruit in the nose. Some figs in there as well. A nice citrusy hop blast at the end adds to the party. Nose finishes with a whiff of alcohol.

Lots of caramel covered dark ripe fruit. Some fig flavor. Faded hop bitterness. Not overly sweet.

Medium body, with a good amount of carbonation. Maybe too much. A bit warming. Lots of complex flavors. Pretty nice.

Bierguy5, Jan 25, 2009
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Scratch Beer 4 - 2007 from Tröegs Brewing Company
94 out of 100 based on 75 ratings.