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Scratch Beer 4 - 2007 - Tröegs Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

75 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 75
Reviews: 68
rAvg: 4.27
pDev: 7.26%
Wants: 18
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
American Barleywine |  9.40% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: akorsak on 09-29-2007)
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Photo of 7ways
3.33/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer has been in my fridge for almost two years, time to finally kill it.

This is much darker than I expected, very deep brown and red. Light oak head with an impressive head and lacing for a 4 year old beer. Lots of chunks.

There is still a detectable hop aroma, but it's mostly pretty fruity. Raisin, prune, and cherry with a lot of caramel.

Fair amount of bitterness left for a 4 year old beer.This tastes almost exactly like Victory Old Horizontal, walking the line between American and English barleywine, with a lot of fruity malt, molasses, some abrasive citrus, and a lingering tang on the finish.

Mouthfeel is full, sticky, and rich.

I really wanted to love this, but it's no better than when I had it fresh in 2007. It's solid, but I still like it's successor, The Flying Mouflan, a lot more.

7ways, Apr 26, 2011
Photo of IntriqKen
3.4/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark amber with a massive dark amber head of dense foam that slowly melts to very sticky and thick lace.

Aromas are almost lager like but with anise and citrus peel bitterness.

Flavor is caramel, anise (I have no idea where that comes from), and then lots of citrus peel (grapefruit mostly) bitter hops finishing with an alcohol burn as you swallow.

Aftertaste is slightly turpentine and grapefruit with lots of alcohol presence.

IntriqKen, Nov 25, 2007
Photo of jophish17
3.5/5  rDev -18%

jophish17, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of hoppymeal
3.55/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark ruby and amber color, cloudy, with a decent size butter cream colored head that fades with a little lacing. Aroma is big on the citrusy hops, a little tropical fruit, citrus candy, bubble gum as well. A hint of caramel maltiness backs up the hoppiness. Taste follows with a big dose of citrusy hops, some sugary sweetness up front as well before a fairly good crush of slightly peppery bitterness. Mouthfeel is medium in body, slightly thinner than what I like in a barleywine, a crsip pepperiness from the hops tingles the tongue before the dry bitter finish. A good beer, very dark ipa like, somewhat of a crossover between styles. I am eager to age my other bottle and let the hops die down a bit to see what develops. Thanks Dan for the opportunity.

hoppymeal, Dec 14, 2007
Photo of flexabull
3.75/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of warriorsoul, thanks again!

Beer pours a very dark amber color, kind of cloudy, with a faint off white head.

Aromas are very nice. I mostly notice sweetness, and hops. Lots of citrus, as well as sweet candied malts.

Taste is of dry bitterness, some slightly sweet malts, and boozy sharp alcohol. There is a slight tea like malt flavor, a touch creamy, sweet, and with a pine and earthy, yet weak hop finish. Alcohol pokes it's head up, and leaves a bit of a burn on the finish. Flavors seem a bit scattered, but still tasty.

Mouthfeel is good. It has a nice ful feel, thinkness is about right, and nice subtle carbonation.

Drinkability is pretty good. This is a beer that I can't quite put my thumb on. Some sips I like it... others... not so much. It's complex, but at the same time seems a bit messy. To me, it tastes more like an aged Double IPA. I can see why this one was scratched. Not bad, but needs work.

flexabull, Sep 03, 2008
Photo of DrDogbeer
3.88/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to DIM for the opportunity to try this bad boy! Pours a murky brownish, red color with tons of haze. Thin tan head. Smells of alcohol and some sweet malts. Good bite for a barleywine. Not as smooth as I would expect, but not a bad thing. Nice smooth aftertaste, though of alcohol and caramel or toffee flavored malt. Pretty drinkable for a barleywine, with a semi-slick mouthfeel.

DrDogbeer, May 17, 2008
Photo of John_M
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed the other night at a tasting over at Slatetank's place.

The beer pours a reddish amber color with good head retention and lacing. Nose is attractive, with perfumy, skunky hops and sweet malt. Can only imagine what this smelled like when it was first released. Flavors replicate the nose, except the beer is now dominated by the sweet malt, but with the hoppy bitterness still pretty much in evidence. The beer is medium bodied, but is otherwise fairly full. Drinkability is OK, but with the alcohol starting to show more and more.

A nice beer, but I think its best days are behind it.

John_M, Dec 05, 2009
Photo of kkipple
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Massive Mega Scratch Beer Tasting @ the Meat Meet, 8.21.2010. Thanks Unclejedi!

Scores reflect how the beer is drinking NOW, and not when released.

Semi-clear russet, low head, no lace, no bubbles. Low smell, lots of lurking semi-roasted malt and some booze. Some fruit, too. Dates? Big flavor here, nice malt / booze / hop balance, age seems to have mellowed this out. Great interplay of bitter / sweet and virtually no booze to be found. Super. Fine carbonation and leaves a fun caramel-sweet finish with a punch of citrus bitters still. Sticky and chewy. Highly enjoyable... wish I had more!

kkipple, Aug 21, 2010
Photo of joepais
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Well thanks to a wonderful Pennsylvanian BA who sent me this (I think it was Dim) I am sorry this bottle was buried deep in the cellar and was before I kept tracks of my trades.
Bottle poured into my Maudite Snifter (I love that glass) produced a skim of lace across the top of a hazy tea colored brown body with some slight teeny bubbles coming from the bottom of the glass

Aromas of malts and caramel sugar hit me strait off. It is kind of funny the flavors of hops are present but no aromas from them. The first thing you taste is a nice sweetness from the grains, then comes the bitter from the hops, and warmth of the alcohol; Great balance

I have been drinking a few barleywine as of late. So I will say that this is somewhat unique in the stronger hops aspect, especially in an aged brew. This is a good barleywine. Not my favorite as of late, but a strong contender. Yes I drink it again

joepais, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of stakem
3.96/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

During a recent gathering, I opened every vintage of Mouflan in bombers and a friend brought a growler of the 2013 since this year it was not bottled. Thanks go to BA Slatetank for trading me a couple bottles of this scratch 4 some time ago. It was awesome to start the tasting off with the original mouflan recipe.

12oz bottle poured into a mouflan cervoise, the brew appears a clear mahogany color with ruby clarity seen around the edges when held to the light. The cap is compromised of a yellowish froth that leaves stringy lace on the glass.

The smell is raisiny with soft notes of alcohol. Hints of chocolate with a touch of vanilla. It almost feels like it had a barrel aged quality about it. The grain presence is a little dusty giving sight to a minor note of oxidation.

The taste of the brew is quite similar to what the nose suggests with alcohol coming across a bit raisony or prune-like. Faintly like molasses and earth with a bitter herbal touch of hops still present after some 6+ years of sitting in a bottle. Like the aroma, the flavor gets slightly dusty and oxidized in the aftertaste.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Plenty of depth and complexity but having drank it side by side with "younger versions" the brew is showing it's age at this point. It was certainly unique and enjoyable, but I dont forsee it becoming any better with more age at this point.

stakem, Jun 18, 2013
Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.98/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A murky dark brown body pours thick out of the bottle settling into the glass. A two finger spice toned deep brown head is created. Nose is a nice musky mix of sweet hops and creamy qhelonic spices that include molases, cinnamon, pepper and pine wood. A dark spicey richness floods the taste buds with first sip. Unique and complex feel with burnt malt is there but not in a bad way. A lengthy bitter feel is wraped in dark fruit notes and hints of dark chocolate. Spiceness of this beer really swarms the taste buds but it is nicely balanced. Very biscuity also. Big and hearty beer as well as the mouthfeel it creates. Drinkability is slightly edgey due to the spiceyness.

SPLITGRIN, Apr 02, 2008
Photo of Gonzoillini
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Gonzoillini, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of Tyrawlings
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Tyrawlings, Feb 16, 2012
Photo of Khazadum
4/5  rDev -6.3%

Khazadum, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of JDV
4/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to fly for sharing this great beer! Nicely hopped aroma, but still balanced enough to distinguish itself from something like a DIPA. Rich almost spicy cinnamony like characteristic in the flavor, and quite well balanced I thought. Starts hoppier in the mouth, and finishes with a nice subtle dark sweetness. I got no heat from the alcohol, so fly's closet must be the perfect aging machine for this delicious beast. Definitely a barleywine worth seeking out.

JDV, Mar 20, 2008
Photo of francisweizen
4/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Glowing metal copper orange with a frothy head of white eggshell whip. Aromas of deep roasted biscuit malts as well as green earth hops that are bit subdued by the malts actually. Taste is hoppy and super malty with great fresh bread qualities and a bit of an earthy spiciness as well. Mouthfeel is medium to thick, but a bit cloying. Drinkability remains good. Solid all the way through, reminded me more of an aged dreadnaught than a barleywine. Would probably be much better fresher or on tap.

francisweizen, Sep 24, 2008
Photo of t0rin0
4/5  rDev -6.3%

t0rin0, Mar 04, 2013
Photo of dirtylou
4.03/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz single, No BS the 3rd the bif

consumed during Giants-Packers (2nd quarter)

appearance: poured into a bells tulip glass not knowing at the time if this was the oatmeal stout or the barleywine of the scratch series...as it turns out the murky mahogany-garnet body was that of a barleywine. a creamy beige cap tops this one off. lovely

smell: nice and floral, raspberry, plum and other dark fruits, caramel malts, raisins and figs...not too potent but very nice

taste: this barleywine drinks pretty easy...the hops are fresh and floral with extremely minimal bitterness compared to others of the style, smooth caramel malts, raisins, brown sugar, plum and other dark fruit. Solid but tame

mouthfeel: smooth and creamy

drinkability: very nice for the style

dirtylou, Jan 21, 2008
Photo of Zorro
4.08/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Obtained in trade from WeisGuy.

This beer has the looks, a slight chill haze and a quite nice light brown colored head with remarkable staying power.

Sweet and quite heavy with the C type hops. Big citrus aroma giant grapefruit and strong orange and lemon scents. Bit of eucalyptus and licorice in this. Lastly faint melon and a fairly strong black pepper on the alcohol fumes.

Taste starts out a little sweet with a strong grapefruit and oak taste. Unexpected butter flavor mixes with toffee candy taste. Tasty and a near flavor clone of Oaked Arrogant Bastard.

Mouthfeel is good and comparable with a milkshake.

Nice drinkable beer that I would describe as a thicker version of Oaked Arrogant Bastard. A beer I will try again if I ever see another bottle.

Zorro, Jan 04, 2008
Photo of barleywinebrewer
4.1/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to DIM for this via trade!
A - dark brown, almost black, with a dark red glow when held up to a light. light tan small head that quickly fades.
S - strong citric hop notes with a dry vinous underlying malt note.
T - like the aroma, this one leads off with a strong citric hops note. Not so strong on the citric as to be oily / grapefruit, rather an intruigingly strong narrow view into the taste. Dry dark malts balance out the brew nicely.
M - full bodied, mildly carbonated, dry finish.
D - highly hopped, nicely approachable perfectly finished. This drinks so nice so young it's incredible.

buy this - yeah!

barleywinebrewer, Oct 15, 2007
Photo of cichief
4.1/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Lucky to find this in MD.

A- poured a deep amber in color with a thick off-white head.

S- Hoppy and sweet at the same time, quite floral for a barleywine.

T- Powerful, lot of hops flavor, but balanced with the residual malt and alcohol.

M- Smooth, the bubbles weren't overpowering.

D- Only the high alcohol content would cause me not to drink more of this.

cichief, Oct 21, 2007
Photo of Fish113d
4.1/5  rDev -4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured chilled into my tulip glass, it pours a thick, dark mahogony color with very little chance for light to get through. A nice frothy, dense 1 cm head forms at the top, with nice cling to the glass as it slowly begins to dissipate.

Aroma is responsive; meaning I can smell my brew a few feet away. At first, it hits my sinuses a lot like Nugget Nectar with lots of hops on the nose. Down deep I notice some chocolate maltiness and some possible caramel undertones. However, like any true Troegs brew, hops are the main "course on the menu".

Sipping reveals a bitey choclate maltiness flavor along with some hops coming in to swoop the sweetness away. A very thick, full-bodied brew also. The finish is fairly nice with a mild bitter hoppiness flavor left on my palate. A bit of alcohol also comes in to dry it out just a bit, but rather smooth considering the ABV.

Bitey at first, full-bodied, but then nice and smooth finish best describes the feel.

Overall drinkability? Very nice. I have 4 in the fridge for my college football evening, and I'm sure I'll be left feeling wonderful. Nicely crafted. Reminds me a lot of Rogue Old Crustacean Barleywine...very american and OH SO GOOD!

Fish113d, Sep 29, 2007
Photo of Floydster
4.1/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle acquired in a trade with mymrnngjckt, thanks for giving me the opportunity to try this beer, drank during the Hornets game tonight after a lot of driving today, poured into my Chimay goblet

A-Dark red that is almost light brown, huge 1 3/4 inch inch yellowish off white head that stuck around for a long time, great retention, nice lacing at the top of my glass

S-Piney hoppiness was pretty dominant, also a ton of sweet malt, especially toffee and caramel, some bread too, also dark fruits including plums and raisins, floral accents, and a hint of berries

T-Wow was this hoppy and it did not fade up until the last sip, wish more barleywines were like this, more of a caramel malt taste than anything else in the middle, more pine and resin in the finish, did not change much as it warmed and luckily did not get any sweeter like I was worried about before, nicely balanced and left a nice dry taste consistently

M-Dry and bitter mouthfeel, especially in the finish, aggressive sensation on the tongue, taste lasted a long time, nice level of carbonation, medium body

D-The alcohol is present and could be hidden better, fairly smooth for a barleywine though, could have probably drank another bottle

By far the best of the scratch beers I have tasted, also one of the hoppier barleywines I had, this could have easily passed as an IPA if it was not for its darker color, would drink again, thought I heard somewhere that the ABV was 10.2 % but then again I could be wrong, wish Troegs decided to make this a standard beer, recommended

Floydster, May 04, 2008
Photo of Viggo
4.13/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, big thanks to grub for sharing!

Pours a pretty cloudy rusty reddish brown, kind of muddy, thick light tan head forms, quickly drops to a thick ring around the glass and a thin layer, drops a ton of lacing on the glass, very sticky, looks real nice. Smell is intense, very malty, tons of caramel and grapefruit, biscuity, brown sugar, very rich, dark fruits, some raisin, some floral, buttery, some oak, very earthy, pretty nice stuff. Taste is good to, caramel and brown sugar, some grapefruit, similar to the aroma although not as rich, some biscuits and a touch of alcohol, oak and a touch of vanilla, earthy finish, buttery, a bit weak in the finish. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation, nice body on it, very dry in the finish. I like it but the flavour doesn't live up to the rest of it for me. Thanks Russ!

Viggo, May 18, 2009
Photo of Bierguy5
4.15/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle. Pours a cloudy chestnut color, with a good deal of sediment. Off-white head disappears rather quickly.

Lots of caramel and darker fruit in the nose. Some figs in there as well. A nice citrusy hop blast at the end adds to the party. Nose finishes with a whiff of alcohol.

Lots of caramel covered dark ripe fruit. Some fig flavor. Faded hop bitterness. Not overly sweet.

Medium body, with a good amount of carbonation. Maybe too much. A bit warming. Lots of complex flavors. Pretty nice.

Bierguy5, Jan 25, 2009
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Scratch Beer 4 - 2007 from Tröegs Brewing Company
94 out of 100 based on 75 ratings.