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Scratch Beer 7 - 2008 - Tröegs Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
88
very good

68 Ratings
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Ratings: 68
Reviews: 60
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 9.34%
Wants: 4
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.90% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Red and white wheat combined with darker malts add body to this hazy, unfiltered ale. Fermented with the same yeast as DreamWeaver Wheat replicating the pepper, clove and all-spice flavors found in our year-round beer.

19.1 Plato, 7.9% ABV, 18 IBU. Made with pils and crystal malt, red and white wheat, and magnum and German Northern Brewers hops.

(Beer added by: akorsak on 01-19-2008)
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Reviews by mbrandon2w:
Photo of mbrandon2w
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz
dark amber/brown. Nut much head, but it's been in the fridge for quite a while.
Some light banana/clove aroma, but less than expected. Nice overall, not too heavy on the aroma.
Sweet malt up front, followed by a lot of banana/bubble gum in the end. Sweet malt, light caramel flavor underneath.
Mouthfeel is full and smooth, but not too heavy. Very drinkable.
Definitely would buy again, if that was possible.

mbrandon2w, Jun 17, 2008
More User Reviews:
Photo of Gonzoillini
4/5  rDev +1%

Gonzoillini, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of nickd717
4.33/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle thanks to Troy G.

Pours a murky dark amber-burgundy color, like darker apple cider almost, with a small cream-colored head that fades to a ring.

Big rich aroma of wheat malt, caramel, sherry, honey, perfume, spice, and dark fruits. Smells great.

The flavor has slight oxidation but is still very tasty. The wheat malt has aged well and melded with the caramel and toffee flavors seamlessly, and there's a really nice fig and prune flavor to it. Pretty rich for this style.

Medium-full bodied with carbonation a little on the lower side.

A great weizenbock. One of the more enjoyable beers in this series.

nickd717, Jan 21, 2011
Photo of russpowell
3.43/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Hophead101 for this one, cheers Greg!

Pours a turbid brown/chestnut with 2 fingers of sand colored head. Near zero head retention & lacing

S: Phenols & cloves & some apple pie notes

T: Green appleskins, a kiss of alcohol, & raisin bread up front. Cinamon, dryness, rubberbands & appleskins are all out in force as this warms. Finishes with more green apples, green bananas a touch of tartness, & some grapefruit?? at the end

MF: Fairly chewy, low carbonation, slight syruppy feel

Drinks alright, the green apple is too much for the style IMO. A weizenbock that almost makes me happy

russpowell, Oct 31, 2008
Photo of Kegatron
3.75/5  rDev -5.3%

Kegatron, Jun 04, 2013
Photo of scootny
3.98/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice pour give a decent head to this cloudy and reddish brown fluid. It fades quickly and leave little on top. No visible activity in the glass.

Smell is sweet with toffee and caramel malts. Dark fruitiness including a heavy raisin component. A whiff of banana adds a lighter dimension.

Taste is somewhat Aventinus like. A dopplebock maltiness that is heavy on raisin and again a touch of light banana. Wheat malt is subtle but there. A bit of clove as well. Alcohol weaves it's way through the mix and is prominent but not a flaw. Finish is mild hops and sour apple. Light tannins and dark biscuits. A tough of red wine.

Mouthfeel is medium weight and gentle, fine carbonation.

Drinkability is quite good. I could enjoy several of these in a night and white not the benchmark that Aventinus is it certainly evokes the taste and feel for considerably less cash. Nice job Troegs! My thanks to BankerJoe for this one.

scootny, Jan 17, 2009
Photo of Beertracker
4.05/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Tröegs Scratch Beer #7 - 2008 pours up with a neat creamish-tan head that tops a rather bright reddish copper-russet brown body. The definite toasty nose has a lightly spicy/phenolic (allspice, cloves, nutmeg) character with a moderate fruitiness (apple, banana, pear). No bubblegum, some notable chocolate roastiness underlying the complex melanoidins. The flavor starts off with a defined caramel sweetness that is supported by a complex toasted/wheat nuttiness that's marked by just a touch of bitterness to balance the richness. The underlying spiciness helps to carry this one along to a slightly cloying, fruity & warming finish. This medium-full bodied weizenbock has good complexity & creaminess, but is marred by a touch of oxidation. However, given how well it's age that's a minor infraction! Here's to that Gemütlichkeit Scratch fever that's obviously alive & well in PA.

PROST! Beertracker

Beertracker, Jan 04, 2012
Photo of akorsak
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A fresh growler fill this afternoon at the brewery, this is the newest release in the on-going Scratch series.

A: Think apple cider or a gelatinous baby food, this beer is a thick ruddy brown color. Cloudy doesn't do it justice, as the unfiltered yeast makes it as opaque as pudding.

S: The nose is full of deep weizen aromas, esters that show off clove and banana primarily with just a hint of bubblegum sweetness. Strong wheat notes add a dash of bready tartness to the happenings.

T: For the depth of color and happenings in the nose, the ale is refreshingly light-bodied. Spritzy, lightly tart wheat keeps the whole taste soft and airy. Clove and banana flavors appear mid-sip and build nicely off of the wheat body. Throughout, the alcohol never gets out of control. While that is not surprising with a 8% abv, a weizenbock can often sneak up on you. The light wheat body lingers long after a sip is gone, a pleasant reminder of the ale.

M: The weizen body get a nice bump here, adding flavor and strength. The esters, as always, are wonderfully delicious and not too sweet.

D: Between ksak and I, this one won't last the night. This one seems on par with dreamenator: a good drink, no more and no less.

akorsak, Jan 19, 2008
Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.83/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Deep brown body with ruby tones hosts an inch and a half of light tan head with decent retention. No lace is left. Nose is full of yeasty fig, dark creamy fruits, mellon, vanilla and phelonic spices. Enters the mouth with big yeast carried Belgian style hops. Thick and full bodied loaded with dark fruit and smooth even spices. Enjoyable, complex palate that is very hard to classify. Mouthfeel is thick and holds a hue of Belgian yeast. Drinkability is solid. This brew was meant to be drank fresh.

SPLITGRIN, Aug 11, 2008
Photo of Dodo2step
3.7/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I actually sampled this beer at the brewery for the tour this past saturday.

It wasnt bad but it wasnt great. It had a murky, mud puddle type color to it. It was a dark brown in color.

The smell was that of malts and sweet sugar. Not too much else to report on smell.

The taste was sweet and malty. it didnt have too much of a hop flavor to it. It also had some spice flavors thrown in like clove and something else.

The mouthfeel wasnt that impressive. It was thick yet light but felt like malty water.

Its ok to sample and maybe have one. If you would drink more than one it would feel like drinking malt vinegar.

Dodo2step, Mar 02, 2008
Photo of JohnGalt1
3.73/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz received as an incredibly thoughtful extra from Hophead101 in his recent Mad Elf Vertical LIF... Bad Ass!! Shared with my carpool buddy tonight who has a boner for anything weizenbock.. Mine from my shaped SA glass.

Surprising 1" head on a half glass pour.. the brew is the obvious very hazy dark chestnut verging on walnut..

nose is cocoa with lite caramel and much lighter than expected banana esters.. actually quite a bit of clove..

The flavor mirrors the aroma but with a sorta muddy everpresent maltiness that really doesn't differentiate itself.. more overpowers the rest of the trusty weizenbock flavors... the body is fairly heavy for the style.. and the carbonation is lighter than expected.. sorta thick..

Despite the above negatives, this was a quality and pretty drinkable brew.. just needs some tweeks to really bring it up to the next level..

Thanks again Greg.. hit me up anytime..

JohnGalt1, Jan 09, 2009
Photo of mikesgroove
4.35/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Number four of the day, and my scratch series nearly complete, I head over to the Weizenbock to bring me through dinner. Big and bold I pour this one into a large pint glass and let it warm up before indulging. Consumed on 12/21/2008.

The pour was very inviting. A rich hazelnut brown that was light enough to see some nice hints of red poking through on the sides and the bottom of the glass. A nice foamy off white layer came up to about an inch before settling back down and coming through with a solid half inch layer that lasted throughout the entire session.

Rich caramel malts dominated both the aroma and the flavor. Lots of earthy tones here were present throughout. Nice touches of spice and light grain were complementing each other quite well. Nice big full feel on this one, with a rich, creamy, and full palate absorbing flavor. A very nice sipper as the alcohol was noticeable, though not distracting.

Overall this was a very quality bock here. Rich and enticing, sweet yet full, this was one of my biggest suprises in the series. I can drink beers like this every night.

mikesgroove, Dec 21, 2008
Photo of rallison
4.47/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge, huge thanks to DIM for this one!

Pours a very murky brown/amber color with a 1 finger white head that leaves some lacing around. Smells extremely yeasty and wheat-y - something I do not mind in the least. Touches of caramel in the smell as well.

The taste here is quite unique. Lots of chewy wheat and tropical fruit yeast here in the flavor. Touches of caramel in the malt with a nice fruity sweetness.

Mouthfeel is extremely chewy. Probably the chewiest weizenbock I have ever had. Wonderfully creamy as well. Wow. This is quite different, and I find it quite enjoyable.

Drinkability is exceptional. While the flavors are rich, the alcohol is extremely well hidden and I find myself working to pace myself!

Highly recommended. You could definitely argue this is a bit muddy, but I really enjoy the flavors and the mouthfeel here. Thanks again DIM - you are an awesome trader.

rallison, Mar 01, 2008
Photo of oline73
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

oline73, Mar 07, 2012
Photo of weeare138
4.33/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Much thanks to mughugger for the gratis bottle...
Appears a hazy, light chestnut toned amber with a small, off white head that fades into a small cap and collar. Spotty lacing is left around the glass. Heavy streams of CO2 rise quickly to the top.
Smell is of clove, pepper, raisins, caramel, bubblegum, and brown sugar.
Taste is of the same aromas with spicy cloves, bubblegum, mild cocoa, caramel coated apples, and plummy notes.
This is probably the closest version of an American take on Aventinus that I've ever had.
Mouthfeel is medium-full with chewy, sugary sweetness up front, effervescent and spritzy. A well done beer.
Troegs - make this part of the regular rotation...maybe a Fall release?

weeare138, Mar 19, 2008
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4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to DIM for this via trade! Wow, this is one solid brew - rich esters, banana, clove and a hint of nutmeg. medium bodied, nicely carbonated and hides the abv quite well. This works great in my book and I'm happy to have tried this one. Perfect as the temps are rising!

barleywinebrewer, May 16, 2008
Photo of natasharai
4.05/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Poured with 1 cm bubbly light tan head that dissipated over a few minutes to a thin layer leaving no lacing. The beer is amber-brown and slightly hazy

Smell: Sweet caramel bananas up front, then it turns to a spicy clove banana smell. A very small sour smell is noticeable.

Taste: Fruity apples and bananas, sweet caramel, small spiciness of cloves, and ends with mild hops

Mouthfeel: Slightly thin, good amount of carbonation up front, and leaves mouth with a sweet dry feel.

Overall: Pretty drinkable, a little on the sweet side but not too overwhelming. I cannot really detect the alcohol in this stuff. I actually did not really like my first sip but it got much better, especially as it warmed up.

natasharai, Mar 10, 2009
Photo of Thorpe429
3.88/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Lunch. Served in a SAVOR snifter.

Pours a clear copper color with no real head, lacing, or anything else of that sort to speak of. Given the age and style, certainly forgiveable. The nose carries some nice notes of brown sugar, dark fruits, grapes, and sherry. No real yeast character left in the nose or flavor, but there's a nice sherry-like oxidation element and plenty of dark fruits. Light body with moderate carbonation and a slightly-dry finish. Nice beer. Quite enjoyable.

Thorpe429, Jun 13, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Greg for sending me this!

A: The beer pours an opaque copper color with a thin and short lived khaki colored head.

S: Sweet caramel malts and toffee with a bit of dark fruits. Not much yeast, but a little bit of banana and a strong cherry and plum aroma. Some brown sugar and a definite oxidation, but that's not surprising.

T: Lots and lots of caramel, toffee, and brown sugar. A definite toastiness and a hint of alcohol. Toasted bread flavor is pleasing and there is some nice fruitiness, including some overripe banana.

M: Medium in body with a low to moderate carbonation.

O: Would have been nice to try this a couple years ago, but this seems to have held up pretty well.

womencantsail, May 17, 2011
Photo of Gavage
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: pours a dark amber color with a short 1" head. The head breaks apart quickly and forms some large surface bubbles.

Smell: sweet aroma with some light alcohol tones.

Taste: bready malt profile. Some caramel, bananas, pepper spice, honey, and some mild bitterness. Alcohol is warming and mild in the flavor.

Mouthfeel: lightly crisp throughout with a light dry finish. Aftertaste is long as the flavors linger in the mouth. Medium bodied beer.

Drinkability: very enjoyable flavors but a slow sipping beer. One bottle is enough in a session.

Gavage, Jun 13, 2008
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3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - pours a robust amber into a Beer & Sweat tasting glass. A compact head is tightly bubbled and kind of dry looking. Falls slowly as the brisk bead from below is creating a reverse waterfall of bubbles up the entire side of the glass. Some light stringy lacing, but not much.

Aroma - big yeasty, banana aroma with sides of spice and alcohol. A touch solventy but mostly right on.

Taste - sweet caramel malts, yeasty with a light bit of lemony flavor. Some toastiness and spice on the swallow, mild abv warming. Finishes drier, less sweet than most weizenbocks.

Mouthfeel - smooth, a touch heavy in the body, nicely done. Well-carbonated and the head never goes away during the entire sampling of the bottle.

Drinkability - pretty good stuff, thanks to SlateTank for the bottle, traded at DLD08.

brewdlyhooked13, Aug 16, 2008
Photo of tayner
3.58/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle

I popped this open out of the fridge and had no idea what style it was, total surprise.

Poured into a pils glass as it was there anyway. It pouroed a nut brown, hazy color with a large, foamy off white head that laced very well and stayed around a long time.

Smell was dark fruit and toasted wheat with some spicy hop nose

It fits a weizenbock category well with the wheat, fruit, and malt all prevelant

Medium to heavy body

easy to drink, but more of a fall or winter beer.

tayner, Mar 23, 2008
Photo of KarlHungus
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to MuenchenerKindl for this one. It pours a cloudy brown color. The head is massive, billowy, and tan in color. It never really recedes, it just sticks around until all the beer is gone. The aroma is a baking banana bread, with a hint of cloves. The taste is full of wheaty goodness. Banana bread, cloves, milk and dark chocolate, malt balls. The mouthfeel is full bodied with lots of carbonation, and a velvety texture. Overall, this is a fantastic beer, and I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to taste it.

KarlHungus, May 01, 2008
Photo of Khazadum
4/5  rDev +1%

Khazadum, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of Deuane
4.35/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Hazy, brownish hued copper with a small off white head that reduced to a thin cap and left spotty lace.

S-Strong wafting of clove, pepper, bubblegum, raisin and brown sugar. All of this lying a top a nice base of wheat bread malt.

T-Spicy cloves, bubblegum, cocoa powder and raisin up front with a mildly sweet bready base.

M-Medium-light body and while a bit chewy it seems to be missing something. Maybe it's too effervescent. Plenty of lingering flavours save it from a lower score.

D-Regardless of the lack in the mouthfeel this one certainly has it going on! I really liked this a lot!

Deuane, Jul 16, 2009
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Scratch Beer 7 - 2008 from Tröegs Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 68 ratings.