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Scratch Beer 17 - 2009 - Tröegs Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

56 Ratings
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Ratings: 56
Reviews: 49
rAvg: 4.1
pDev: 10%
Wants: 4
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
German Pilsener |  5.60% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: akorsak on 01-13-2009)
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Reviews by kkipple:
Photo of kkipple
3.5/5  rDev -14.6%

Massive Mega Scratch Beer Tasting @ the Meat Meet, 8.21.2010. Thanks Unclejedi!

Scores reflect how the beer is drinking NOW, and not when released.

Simply a pretty good German Pils past due. Still surprisingly tasty, but lets face it - a Pilsner can't be great 1.5 years after brewed. Malt has taken over here, but this looks good and tastes fine, still -- just not anything unusually good. Glad to have tried it -- Troegs has crafted a TON of different styles here, most of them above-average. Keep it up, kids.

kkipple, Aug 22, 2010
More User Reviews:
Photo of Troegsfan
4.38/5  rDev +6.8%

I picked up a case of the Scratch Beer #17-Glacier Pils a few weeks ago and have enjoyed every single bottle.
Nice aromas, clean flavor with a little bit of citrus and grassiness. Finishes with a very refreshing hit of acidity which makes it easy to have another. Kinda' gets my palate ready for my summer staple beer-Sunshine Pils!

Troegsfan, Mar 08, 2009
Photo of prototypic
4.22/5  rDev +2.9%

Huge thanks to guinnessdoc for the hook-up on this one. Much appreciated, Josh.

Ahhhh...with Scratch 17, Tröegs brings us a German Pilsner (Pilsener, if it suits you). It's moderately hazy and light golden in color. With a little light, it's closer to yellow. It's topped with a very nice foamy white head that's a couple of fingers deep. It took quite a bit longer to completely dissipate than I would've ever expected and left thick, sticky sheets of lace clinging to the glass. Pretty impressive stuff.

The nose is lacking in strength and suffers a little as a result. Hops are very apparent right off the bat. They smell mostly floral and give it an overall earthy quality. Smells like there's a bit of spiciness to it that might be attributed to the hops. It doesn't smell like any identifiable spice. Lemon is noted, but is pretty faint. It smells a little sweet due to pale (or some other variety of malt). That pretty much wraps it up. There's a good base here to work with, it just needs more muscle.

The flavor profile is damn impressive. It has a very tasty hop flavor. I don't know what the bill is here, but it works extremely well. They're equal parts floral and spicy. The spicy aspect of it gives it an edge that really drives the flavor score higher than I expected it to be. The floral element is grainy and grassy. Pale malts seem to be the base here, though I could be wrong about that. It's a little sweet. Light citrus lemon adds more sweetness and very refreshing flavor. Spicy hops seem to grow bolder toward the end and on the finish. Very nice turn it took there. If there's alcohol here, that'd be news to me. Even though it's low at 5.6%, there's not a hint in the flavor. I waffled a little on the flavor score initially, but it really is that good and deserves the nod.

It features a medium body that's nice and smooth. Carbonation is medium range and pretty well restrained. It's close to crisp, but it doesn't negate any smoothness at all. Drinkability is damn good. I'm loving the flavor, the abv is low, and it goes down smooth and way too easy.

I expected Scratch 17 to be impressive, but not to this degree. Frankly, Tröegs has just about blown me away with this one. Generally speaking, German Pilsners do not hit home with me like this one has. The only thing that could improve it a little is a stronger nose. That's a small complaint. It has absolutely no impact on the excellence that is the flavor of this Scratch release. Damn, this is good stuff. There aren't many German Pilsners out there that command an overt effort to find. This is one that's well worth the effort. Find a bottle (or a few) if you can.

prototypic, May 22, 2009
Photo of mikey711
3.2/5  rDev -22%

I think this one is a little past its prime

A: Cloudy straw color yellow. Minimal amount of white head with spotty lacing. Lots of carbonation rushes up from the bottom, I would have liked this one to be a bit clearer

S: Slightly floral hop note with some mellow caramel and earthy notes.

t: slightly bread taste, some sweet caramel notes, a bit of mustiness. I would have liked the hops to be a bit crisper and cleaner tasting

m: it actually has a very nice full body and a good amount of creaminess

D: past its prime for sure but besides that i was dissappointed with the cloudy appearance. Easy to drink but clearly it would be better fresher

mikey711, Feb 04, 2010
Photo of Gonzoillini
4/5  rDev -2.4%

Gonzoillini, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of nickd717
3.75/5  rDev -8.5%

Bottle thanks to dashirey. Review transcribed from notes dated September 2010.

Pours a clear yellowish color with a decently formed white head.

Nice pilsner aroma, if faded. Great pale malt base, slight grain, and faintly floral hops.

The flavor is nice. Sweet pale malt, floral hops, and slight sherry oxidation.

Smooth as hell on the mouthfeel with medium-light body and medium-low carbonation level.

Surprisingly good for an old pilsner. Good job again, Troegs.

nickd717, Nov 05, 2010
Photo of Kegatron
4.47/5  rDev +9%

On tap at the brewery on 1/23/09.

Pours a fairly clear beautiful gold color with a thin head of brite-white foam. Nice firm carbonation here that just doesn't quit, leaving solid swathes of lacing back. The aroma is exceptionally crisp and assertive on draft, being floral, hoppy, and spicy, with a fresh smelling blend of citrus and biscuits underneath. Nice!

The taste starts with a big sharp bite of hops right up front, followed by a silky yet supportive backbone of citrus tang and bready malts. Finishes with a nice dry lingering bitterness that just hangs on the palette. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with an EXTREMELY crisp carbonation and feel in the mouth that just makes this a pleasure to drink.

I liked this out of the growler and just LOVED it on draft! The flavors and aroma just POP when it's this fresh! Hands down, this is one of my favorite Scratch releases. Get on down to the brewery and get ya' some!

Kegatron, Jan 29, 2009
Photo of akorsak
4.22/5  rDev +2.9%

A growler freshly filled earlier this afternoon.

A: The pils is a straw-colored wonder, lightly hazed (although that may be a result of the temperature). A decent head, over a finger and a half, is lacing around the mouth of my mug.

S: The nose is bready with a crisp hop presence. Citrus with an herbal finish, grassy almost.

T: The hops at the front of the pils are great, washing over the tastebuds with lemon and citrus flavors. They have a noticeable earthy flavor that nicely segues into bready malt body. The hops are oily, adding a soapy flavor that is most prominent mid-sip.

M: I'm not a huge pils fan but I like how the flavors come together. The hops are a stand-out with their oily finish.

D: I'm going to enjoy getting through this one today. The citrus in the hops are a bold departure for a pils and at 5.6% I can drink it relatively worry free.

akorsak, Jan 17, 2009
Photo of philbe311
3.63/5  rDev -11.5%

A - One fingers worth of creamy white head, comprised of a mix of small and large chunky bubbles, off of a textbook pour... Head quickly fades leaving a splotchy lacing... Pale yellow straw color with a faint orange hue with a faint haze... Clean...

S - European hops... Lemon... Honey... Biscuit... Fresh cut grass... Hints of spice...

T - Whoa... This is one aggressive Pilsner... Complex... The european hops are biting... Earthiness and spice follow... Slight malt backbone... Hops come back around and linger...

M - Light to medium bodied... Slightly chewy... Crisp... Sharp... Clean... Just the right amount of carbonation...

D - A distinctive Pilsner with lots of personality... Enjoyable and Memorable, but not one that I'm sure I'd enjoy more than one of...

philbe311, Mar 12, 2009
Photo of psulovesbeer
4.7/5  rDev +14.6%

Poured from a bottle to a pint glass.
Slight fizzy head on top of a clear golden beer.
The smell is faint dough with some honey mixed in perhaps a hint of yeast.
Taste comes at you crisp and clear malty sweetness refreshing you with every sip. A hint of fruit..maybe cherry or apricot comes through.
A slight fizz of carbonation hits your palate followed by a sweet and bitter linger; refreshing and wanting of more.
At a fairly moderate ABV and as refreshing as this is you could want nothing but a case of this sitting by you on a hot summer night with some friends.

psulovesbeer, Apr 10, 2009
Photo of JohnGalt1
4.3/5  rDev +4.9%

12 oz received as a plethora of extras from my most favorite trader DIM .. thanks Dan... poured into my shaped SA glass..

1" head took shape and died back pretty quickly.. descent vertical lace stripes.. the brew is a crystal clear gold.

Pale malts with a fresh spicy/floral hoppiness to it .. very clean.

Flavor is also very clean and honestly tastes like it came across the Atlantic.. Crisp bready pale malts and a punchy bitterness.. hop flavors are low (I was expecting an American take on the style.. but get a nice honest German attempt).. the hops that are there have a "green" sorta grassy/herbal quality.. mouthfeel is again very surprising.. tastes like it made the trip.. lite/medium with sorta high carbonation.. finish is dry and very crisp.. has a mild minerally component..

Good stuff.. actually very good.. this tastes sooo fresh.. much better than the German brews that took a few months to get here.. If brewed continually and marketed right, I could see this brew taking a nice stake in the macro crowd.. it would probably be expensive at first, but .. it would sell... well.

Thanks to probably my most favorite trader.... Dan... You're awesome.. DON'T QUIT!!! I need a solid connection in my home state.

3.5/4/4.5/4/4.5

JohnGalt1, Mar 12, 2009
Photo of Gandhified
4.43/5  rDev +8%

Pours a rich golden color... maybe a tinge darker than a traditional pilsener.
There is a nice grapefruit/citrus, and spicy nose to this beer. Although maybe not as intense as some other pilseners.
Taste is excellent! Nice light sweet malt flavor, finishing with a mildly bitter, extremely complex hop flavor (grapefruit/ citrus/ spicey)
Mouthfeel is light with some resinous feeling from the hops.

Overall a well made representation of a pilsener. Not as strongly flavored/ hoppy as some european versions, but complex and as easy drinking as any pilsener.

Troegs makes another tasty beer! I'm looking forward to finishing this growler.

Gandhified, Jan 17, 2009
Photo of mikesgroove
4.38/5  rDev +6.8%

Got this one in a recent trade, and the one I was missing, well besides number 18, but what are ya gonna do. Served chilled into a pint glass, this one was consumed on 03/04/2009.

The pour here is very nice. Light amber in color with a good clarity and light carbonation coming up from the bottom of the glass into a smallish white head of foam across the top. The aroma could best be described as tight, clean, crisp and clean. Light floral hops, small grain profile here and even some light fruit notes from the yeast all bring it together nicely into a light bouguet that warmed well. THe flavor was clean, very well done with a light aftertaste that was acceneted by light hops, citrus notes that came up by suprise and left my mouth dry and bitter and looking for the next sip of this really quite sessionable beer. I was very nicely impressed and suprised by this one. One of the best of the series IMO.

mikesgroove, Mar 05, 2009
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4/5  rDev -2.4%

oline73, Mar 07, 2012
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5/5  rDev +22%

rydogg666, Jan 07, 2012
Photo of grub
3.88/5  rDev -5.4%

Viggo brought this one over. thanks eric!

12oz bottle. sampled feb 28/09.

pours light yellow with just a hint of haze. a thin layer of very fine white head covers the top and leaves a bit of spotty lace.

aroma is nice. light alcohol. honey and a touch of caramel. white bread and cracker. bit of bright, floral hops. touch of grain.

taste is good. touch of caramel and honey sweetness. white bread and cracker. bit of grain. light alcohol. fairly low bitterness level. bright floral and slightly spicy hops.

mouthfeel is good. medium carbonation. nice light body.

drinkability is good. crisp and clean and nicely balanced.

grub, Feb 28, 2009
Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -12.7%

Thanks to Greg for sending me this one.

A: The beer pours a clear golden orange color with a soapy white head.

S: Not really any aroma to this beer. A little bit of a pale malt and bread aroma. Some mild lager yeast and perhaps some spicy hops and lemon zest.

T: Some sweet bread flavor and some pale malts. Grass and lemon zest with a mild earthy, floral, and spicy (presumably) hop flavor as well. Lager yeast and a mild bitterness on the back end.

M: Light to medium in body with a medium level of carbonation.

O: Can't really expect that a pilsener would hold up this long, but it's done surprisingly alright.

womencantsail, May 17, 2011
Photo of John_M
4/5  rDev -2.4%

The beer pours a hazy light honey gold color with decent head retention and lacing. I don't get a whole lot on the nose, just some biscuit dough, honey and very light cherry. On the palate there is some prominent, up front sweet honey, which is quickly followed by some drying bitterness on the finish. This is a beer that seemed to really grow on me, the more I drank of it. The beer has an interesting richness about it, with a medium bodied mouthfeel. Drinkability is exceptional and it's nice to come across a 5.6% beer with so much flavor.

Not my favorite scratch beer from Troeg's, but still a pretty nice effort.

John_M, Mar 31, 2009
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4/5  rDev -2.4%

Khazadum, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of Deuane
4.43/5  rDev +8%

A-Slightly hazed golden yellow with a medium bright white head that reduced to a thin cap and left nice lace.

S-Sharp floral hops up front with a bit of pine spiciness in the background. Nice support from a backing biscuit malt backbone. The malt is present but does not overshadow the hops.

T-Sharp and crisp floral and pine hop bite. Biscuit malt comes in and helps smooth things out and adds support. Very deep flavour profile.

M-Medium-light, very crisp with long lasting hop bitterness.

D-An excellent German pils. This is a very tasty, refreshing and true to style brew showcasing the beer making abilities of the folks at Troeg's!

Deuane, Apr 19, 2009
Photo of DefenCorps
4.45/5  rDev +8.5%

Huge props to Eric for grabbing me a 6er of this. I love a good pilsener and if Sunshine pils is anything to go by, the Trogners know their pils. Into my awesome Trumer pils glass

A: There's sediment in the bottle, so I decant this, resulting in a spectacular golden yellow beer with a massive off-white head that recedes a little quicker than I'd like, leaving a lot of lace. Awesome, awesome pour

S: Jesus Christ, why did I get just one 6-pack of this? This smells positively heavenly. Crisp hops with spices, lemon, grass with a some biscuit/crackers at the end to round things off and provide some sweetness. Incredibly clean. Pretty incredible, there's little else I could want from a German pils

T: Opens up with equal amounts of crisp hops and a biscuity sweet malt. Mineraly and wonderful. Mildly spicy with white pepper leaning out. Finishes dry, resiny and hoppy

M: It feels a little bigger in body than I'd like but that's mostly the hop resins coating my palate. Excellent carbonation, wonderful finish

D: Incredibly drinkable, it's the perfect beer for the early spring weather we're having here. Better than the Sunshine, IMO

DefenCorps, Feb 08, 2009
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4/5  rDev -2.4%

InspectorBob, Nov 08, 2013
Photo of br3wmeister
4.55/5  rDev +11%

A- Light yellow in color with a slight haze. Nice big white head that hold pretty well, with good lacing.

S- Nice light malty aromas, hints of honey and caramel. Some good hop character that plays nicely with the malt, slight citrus.

T- Nice light malty flavor, hints of caramel and honey. The hops come through with hints of pine and citrus. All the flavors in this beer are pretty subtle but nice.

M- Light bodied with nice crisp hops and perfect carbonation.

Overall- This is a great beer I wish I had more of it. Great body and awesome subtle character. This is truly an awesome pilsener.

br3wmeister, Feb 10, 2009
Photo of Viggo
4.47/5  rDev +9%

12 oz bottle picked up at Capone's in Philly.

Pours a hazy straw yellow, some pineapple juice tones, light orange, medium sized white head forms, quickly settles down to a medium ring around the glass and a thin layer, drops some quality lacing streaks on the glass. Smell is nice, very clean and malty, caramel and honey, biscuits, floral, lemony hops, slightly grassy, orange peel, a bit toasty, very clean, very fresh hoppiness. Taste is very nice, very fragrant and fresh tasting, caramel and honey, some toast, grassy hops, very floral, sweet orange peel, very dry and bitter in the finish, but well balanced, very nice pilsener. Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with medium carbonation, very nice, very balanced.

Viggo, Feb 28, 2009
Photo of orangesol
3.53/5  rDev -13.9%

Thanks to whoever brought this one to our IPA day party. Yet another old scratch beer tick. This one is now almost three years old.

A - Pours crystal clear golden yellow with a nice one finger tall white head leaving light lacing down the glass.

S - Smells of pale malt, dulled grassy hops, and some bready malt. For being this old it has held up surprisingly well.

T - Starts off with the pale malt quickly giving way to a mix of dulled grassy hops, some bready malt, and some light oxidation. Some light sweetness creeps in as it warms up a bit. The finish is a bit dry with some light chewiness, lingering for a short period of time.

M - Light body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Crisp, clean, feel with a bit of chewiness at the very end lingering through the finish.

O - While this one is obviously past its prime it is still holding its own. If you still have some of these I would say you should drink them now as they aren't getting any better.

orangesol, Aug 11, 2011
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Scratch Beer 17 - 2009 from Tröegs Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 56 ratings.