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Scratch Beer 38 - 2010 (IPA #2 Of 4) - Tröegs Brewing Company

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Reviews: 60
Hads: 67
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 10.9%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  7.70% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: akorsak on 11-26-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of ChadQuest
2.14/5  rDev -43.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a orange non-hazy body with a moderate head with decent lacing.
damp earth, citrus, and fruity gum on the nose.
The flavors come through in that artificial orange starburst flavor that i don't enjoy that happens now and then. tastes like there is quite a bit of unfermented sugars in here.
I swear if i lick my lips i'm pulling sugar off them.
Sugary and sticky mouthfeel, i want my IPAs dry. (398 characters)

Photo of kingcrowing
2.7/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

Pours a hazy light amber with a small white head. Nose is similar to #37 but a bit less sweet and malty, more balanced.

Taste is quite grainy and a bit harsh, much less smooth than 37, there is a hop flavor but it's more bitter than flavorful. Mouthfeel is decent, thick and creamy. Overall, much weaker than the previous scratch ipa. (374 characters)

Photo of Ryan011235
2.77/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into an Ommegang flute on 1/1/11

Thanks to MbpBugeye

This is a great looking beer. Golden amber color that has a nice, bright sheen. The two finger head as short lived, though it left crackly, webbed lacing all over the glass. Thin retention.

The aroma is a bit odd to me. Fairly hoppy with notes of grass, hay, straw, floral nips. It's kind of spicy & has notions of over-ripe citrus. Not a whole lot of malts in there; it almost has a bubblegum bent. Hmm, the taste is equally grassy; maybe even more so than the nose. Densely herbal with light hints of spice. Much of the citric element is obscured. As with the aroma, the malts are seemingly downplayed though I know they are there; just some toasty undertones. Medium bodied with moderate carbonation; fairly average in both respects. On the other hand I don't much care for the overall feel which is coating & kind of slick.

Drinkability is ok. It's an interesting enough beer but kind of middle of the road. (975 characters)

Photo of Retsinis
3/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Had this beer at a recent tasting, (thanks Skuter) split between he and I.

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Bruery tulip glass.

A: Super clear at first, initially a straw yellow with a golden hue, but after it settled, had a little haze. Very little head, light lacing, settled to just a ring of bubbles.

S: Citrus, orange peel, a bit of pine.

T: Mirror's the nose, with some light grapefruit notes, orange peel, and sweet malt.

M: Crisp, dry, lightly carbonated.

O: A bit average to be honest, nothing really stood out in the beer, between Troegs IPA, and just the style of an IPA. Forgettable. (608 characters)

Photo of KickInTheChalice
3.08/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: Out of the bottle, this has a cloudy caramel color with a flash of amber in the center and tangerine on the edges. Particulate yeast particles float throughout. A fluffy off-white head rests gently on top, fading to a ring and a light film.

Smell: Caramelized grapefruit, some herbal hop presence, but the aroma is fairly understated. An unpleasant booziness surrounds the other aromas.

Taste: The toasted caramel malt starts strong but does not last very long, leaving only the caramel sweetness to blend with the citrus hops. A candied citrus taste exists along with a boozy flavor. At 7.7%, I would expect this to be more hidden. This is mostly underwhelming.

Mouthfeel: Soft creaminess, light to medium carbonation, with a medium to full body.

Drinkability: I was not happy with how much booze poked through in an unpleasant way. Lots of alcohol and not much flavor is not a good combination. (958 characters)

Photo of Dreadnaught33
3.11/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Was not a huge fan of this beer. Maybe it's because I had Selin's Grove IPA and Heady Topper before it?

A: Golden color with some creamy head and light lacing.

S: Stomach acid dominates for me. Yuck. Some grassy hops and dry malt buried beneath it.

T: Sort of lager like for me, laking hops and boldness. Some grassy and pine hops are there, but man it's nothing special.

M: Thin and pedestrian.

D: Eh ok. Not a huge fan, I say ditch this Troegs. (453 characters)

Photo of harrymel
3.12/5  rDev -17%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to Chaney for sending this in a monster box!

Poured to NB globe.

A: Good golden amber ale with beautiful white fluffy head (single finger) that dies out early on. Good scattered spots of laced foam.

S: Initially quite resiny. Bits of bubble gum, spice, grassy, very faint fine. Pretty decent balance, but a touch sweet.

T: Bitter-sweet. Plenty of hop flavor in here, a bit too much malt for a standard IPA. I can drink this, but I wouldn't pay more than $2 for it. I guessing it cost more being a brewery release...

M: Medium body with matching carb. Dry finish.

D: I have had this twice now, both times I have been left unmoved. (642 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.28/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Jason for another generous extra.

A: The pour is a clear, golden amber color with a fluffy white head.

S: Lots of lemons in this one, too. I get mostly lemon zest with a bit of a bready malt base. A decent amount of pine to go with it, and some mild alcohol. Maybe some feet, too.

T: A bit better on the palate as the lemon zest really comes through strongly. Quite a bit of pine which provides a lot of bitterness, but it's somewhat harsh at times. Again, a little bit of alcohol and bread.

M: The body is medium and so is the carbonation with a lasting bitterness on the finish.

D: Wasn't too big of a fan of this either, but at least it was better than 37. (674 characters)

Photo of jrallen34
3.32/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle also provided by Sean so we could tick 36-38, poured into a perfect pint glass... Similar to the 37 this is an ugly ipa, light watery straw without good carbonation... The aroma is better, perhaps fresher, some light pine throughout, but not much beyond that. The taste is similar, light hops, ok, nothing to write home about. Skip this one as well. (361 characters)

Photo of yeahnatenelson
3.46/5  rDev -8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

IPA hopped with Centennial and Chinook

Appearance -- Pours a hazy orange hue with a slim sudsy white head. Wide bands of lacing. Nice.

Smell -- Very unique: lots of juicy fruits, biscuity malt, caramel, leafy hops, and a hint of peppery spice.

Taste -- Juicy fruit, leafy hops, and lots of spiciness. Malting conjures up biscuits and caramel. I am also picking up bubblegum - strange, I know. Malting is slightly sweet and gently caramelized. Hop bitterness is firm and resinous. Black pepper is perceptible toward the back end. Lingering flavors of juicy fruits, leafy hops, and pepper.

Mouthfeel -- Medium-bodied with moderate prickly carbonation. Feels crisp, but not sharp on the tongue. I don't know what Tröegs does, but they have the mouthfeel for these Scratch IPA's dialed in.

Drinkability -- Not too shabby. Somehow I don't like this one as much as I did Scratch 37, perhaps because the hop character in this is so much more...eclectic. Sort of all over the place, but not too bad. (997 characters)

Photo of OakedCanuck
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this along with the #37, as well, thanks to Chaney

This pours a deeper orange amber, fluffy white to off white head. Floral nose with some citrus (lemon and grapefruit). Sticky lacing as well. Taste is sweeter than the 37, perhaps a few too many residual sugars but this beer is at 7.7% so who knows. A little sticky mouthfeel due to the sugars and a touch hot from the alcohol. Just an alright beer, nothing to search out or wish they put into regular production. (469 characters)

Photo of Hojaminbag
3.53/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Scratch 38 has a dark, copper-colored body and a small white head. Decent retention and lacing.

The aroma has equal parts citrus from the hops and biscuit from the malt.

38 does a good job with balance, as the malt and hop profiles are pretty similar in strength (well, maybe the hops do edge the malts by a little bit). Just like the aroma, citrus flavored hops that focus on grapefruit are the strongest flavor; it pairs with both bitterness and a noticeable alcohol flavor. Sweet caramel and lightly toasted biscuits come through next as the malt backbone balances this beer out.

The mouthfeel seems a little bit heavy to me, but this isn't much of a problem for me.

This is a solid IPA, but I would love to see a little stronger hop profile. (749 characters)

Photo of Pencible
3.56/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: This poured a clear light gold with a bit of white head.
S: It smelled like stale and musky herbs, some some earthy pine hops. Not very good.
T: It tasted like dirty lemon zest and stale tea leaves, with some earthy wild flower and a bit of honey. It had a bitter but mostly clean aftertaste.
M: It was fairly thick with some carbonation. Solid body.
D: This was not a very good IPA. The scent and taste just weren't appealing. The body was good, and it was easy to drink, but the beer is still not recommended. (514 characters)

Photo of CooperEllis
3.57/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz picked up from the Troeg's brewery, into the customary .3l.

This is one bright ale. I often complain that beer, especially hoppy beer isn't bright enough. Even w/ an agressive pour, little head but what is there melts into very nice lacing that hangs to the inside of the glass like worn drapes in a period drama.

After the initial burst out of the bottle, very little by way of aroma. What initally is piney to the point of urine, is soon replaced by the less appetizing odor of mash. Wait, that came out wrong. Still there is enough citrus that it is saved from being unappealing.

Spice, bitter notes, nice rounder finish which I always think of as the bitter fading. Absent are floral notes, I did not note which hops were used here but this is not particularly complex a flavor. There is a good bit of earthyness to this, either in the flavor or the aroma and I'm having a hard time seperating it.

It's drinkable. I doubt this would become my go to IPA, but then again, the market is filled with IPA's so I suppose I should make any judgements without a side-by-side. It's certainly drinkable, though I prefer my IPA's to be both harsher and a bit more challenging.

(49th) (1,186 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.6/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Chaney, another from DavoleBomb. Thanks guys!

A: This beer pours a crystal clear golden hue, with a half inch off off-white, foamy head that leaves some decent lacing upon the pint glass.

S: Hop and floral notes, subtle citrus.

T: Again, mostly floral with some citrus notes. Although the beer has a strong floral presence, it's not overdone to the point of astringency, as was the case with Scratch 37.

M: Medium-bodied with a slightly soapy feel. Alcohol presence is there, with a bit of a sharp bite, notably in the finish.

D: I enjoyed this much more than Scratch 37, though this beer still has considerable room for improvement. (657 characters)

Photo of Sammy
3.62/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours rich yellow with lasting three-fifths of an inch head. Carbonation bubbles were obvious and this was a highly carbonated beer. Floral hop aromas. Understated bitterness, pleasant, mild grapefruit. Lots of lace was noted later. Was worth trying once, drinkable, but a below average IPA with way above average alcohol.Smooth mouthfeel, other than the carbonation.
Small bottle from M-P (389 characters)

Photo of StormKing47
3.62/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Fresh from the brewery where I got a case. Reviewed from notes and shared with petesuphi and Jwiss22...

A- Has a very nice golden orange color with a yellowish hue. A very crisp, clean and clear looking beer with a slight haze and a nice amount of bubbles from the carb leading to a nice thin white head that has a little creamy appearance to it.

S- Has an immediate fruit skin smell of citrus, faint but noticeable. More of a piney resinous smell that quickly gives way to a more warming smell of sweet malt and boozy heat. As it continues to warm the citrus smell stays, but it still faint and carries more of a rind smell than the actual fruit. Also the malty sweetness is subtle and wasn't what I expected.

T- This one opens up with a little drop of citrus and a shit ton of pine. Again there is some pear, fruit skin taste like 37, but not as strong. The finish is boozy, and a biscuity malty sweetness. A little of a let down, but improved upon from 37.

M- There's a nice carb prickle with a moderate chewiness, but this one is more syrupy and sweet than I would have liked. The carb is definitely light, but I would have liked more carb and fluffiness or stickiness this is more syrupy, smooth and sweetening.

D- All of Troegs' beers are extremely drinkable. This one is no different it's a good IPA, but not what they are capable of especially from the scratch series. The syrupy and sweet feeling combined with the warming abv could become tiring and a little fatiguing on the palate. Hope 39 is better.

Keep them coming Troegs you will nail the recipe and perfect the hop profile for your Perpetual IPA! (1,620 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.63/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap Saturday December 11, 2010.

Pours a lightish copper color with a white bead that fades down into a small cap with a bit of lacing. The nose brings a moderate dose of citrus with oranges coking through and perhaps a bit of tangerine. There is also a slight bit of caramel malt lingering in the background.

The taste is composed mostly of a moderate amount of citrus hop flavor as well as slight caramel and pine notes. Slightly bitter with a medium body. Well made and easy to drink, but not nearly as good as the Citra of Brotherly Love. (546 characters)

Photo of dnrobert24
3.67/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was totally stoked about Scratch 38. I saw the hops going in: Centennial and Chinook, and thought, "How couldn't this be a great IPA?" Somehow, it wasn't. The malt profile was there, nice and solid with a sweet caramel underpinning. The beer looked great, with a nice fizzy head. It had excellent mouthfeel, and was amazingly drinkable for an IPA over 8% ABV. But my favorite part of an IPA was missing, despite the use of citrusy hops--the aroma. Nowhere did I get any pine, floral, or citrus notes in the nose. I got booze, grains, and a tad bit of earthiness that was from the hops. In the aftertaste there was a hint of something fruity, as if the hops were attempting to make an appearance, but they were just overwhelmed by the alcohol and just couldn't shine. Not my favorite IPA, but I feel Troegs is on the right path with the series. I'd love to try the other three for comparison. (893 characters)

Photo of afksports
3.68/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a couple bottles of this Scratch at the Splinter Black release. I'm enjoying this current one while chewing on a Tofurkey and cheese sandwich.

Pretty sure that makes this beer vegetarian.

It pours a rich and clear bubbly amber with minimal head but substantial lacing and body. When I smell it, I get mostly pine, touch of malts, and a big blast of... not much at all. It's very subdued. The taste isn't hoptastic either. Tame, really. I can't complain; after all that's how I like IPA's the most. Still I always look for an East Coast IPA that can compete with the West Coast big boys. Where is my Notorious I.P.A.?

Not to be found in a bottle of Troegs Scratch 38. But if you're looking for a pleasurable and easy drinking brew with a 7.7% abv and a medium body, you won't be disappointed. (805 characters)

Photo of Urbancaver
3.69/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a bit murky and orange with pretty minimal head. Smells like an IPA right off the bat. Not too strong, a good combination of hops and malt. Certainly a hop profile I'm not used to. Not much citrus there, lots of different stuff going on. Tastes a bit bitter as an IPA should with a very good mouthfeel. Overall, less drinkable than some of my favourite IPAs but a good drink! (381 characters)

Photo of Kegatron
3.7/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap @ the Tröegs Brewing Company on 12/14/10. Served in a pint glass.

Pours a clear copper, with a thin frothy covering of bright-white head. This retains with some creaminess on the edges and light wisps in the center, throwing up some foamy swathes of lacing that slowly creeps down the sides of the glass. The aroma alternates between floral and grassy feeling in the nose, with ripe tropical fruit character that mixes with the bread and caramel flavors from the malts to give this a deep tanginess on the edges of the profile. Pine, spice, and green citrus add a bold sharpness that fills out the middle portion of the nose.

The taste is coming off as pretty darn bitter on the palate, with spiciness, resins, and bitter grapefruit and citrus rind all boldly stretching through the other flavors and just crushing the finish on this with a fierce and dry hop laden finale. That same rich blend of caramel, toast, and juicy tropical fruit, tries it's hardest to balance out the bitterness in the bulk of the profile but there is not helping that finish. It's a bit harsh. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a sharp and prickly carbonation that mostly last until the end of the swallow. There is maybe a touch of underlying slickness but this mostly stays crisp and really pops that bitterness well. I'm picking us a bit of alcohol warmth as well. Not surprising I guess, considering this sits a touch on the higher side for the style.

I don't know. Maybe little more Centennial hops and a bit less Chinook would have helped with this? This was just exceedingly bitter in spots and mixed with the heavier feel here to keep the drinkilbility of this a bit lower than I usually would like in my IPAs. Hop heads might really go for this one though. I'll give this a second chance in the bottle. (1,805 characters)

Photo of akorsak
3.7/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My grand slam on Scratch 38. Part of the MNF Ravens game.

A: The IPA is a golden orange color, light enough to remain opaque. A very bright ale. A finger of white head has laced all around the mouth of the glass.

S: Citrus and pine, resiny, leap out of the glass. The aroma, the more it lingers, seems a little soapy, a little floral, basically running all over the place.

T: The ale isn't as carbonated as the excess lace would indicate. That allows the floral flavors to linger a few seconds before the bitterness kicks in. That floral aspect is sweet, a strong start that quickly goes bitter. The finishing hops are hot with citrus and a resiny pine and lead to a grassy finish. A hop showcase, from the floral to the grassy. The biscuity base is an afterthought. The hops, a little too strong at first, nicely settle into a groove mid-way through.

M: The mouthfeel needs some time to get its sea legs. When it all comes together, the hops are vibrant with floral, grassy and citrus flavors. There is plenty of boozy bitterness though, a little overpowering.

D: This one has the ability to get to me quickly. It is thick and bitter, especially in the finish (and that is what lingers in my memory). (1,206 characters)

Photo of rka758
3.7/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into tulip.
Trade extra

A: Poured a nice golden color. No head, but nice lacing.
S: A nice hop character. A bit of a floral aroma.
T: A nice IPA. Well balanced
M: Well carbonated. Fresh and crisp.
D: This is a nice unexpected treat. I am really enjoying this brew and the 7.7%abv doesn't hurt either. A solid IPA that I would happily drink given another opportunity. (386 characters)

Photo of MbpBugeye
3.7/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- This beer has stunning clarity. Its a rich gold color with bubbles that love the cling to the side of the glass. The head is big and strong with patchy lacing.

S- Scratch 38 has a very grassy aroma. It treads on the lighter side of citrus, featuring lemon-lime. There is a big blossomy smell of wild flower, clover and honey. Malts are there, just enough to give it a doughy base. Im not sure what kind of hops were used but its quite unique.

T- The taste keeps with the grassy, floral theme. A light spiciness, pine and lots of cut grass and honey to sweeten it up. Its not overly bitter but it isnt sweet either. The finish is biting.

M- The body is quite unusual as well. Its much fuller than you would expect. The carbonation has a hard time fighting through it. Its an almost honey-like consistency, only much thinner.

D- This is a bizarre take on the style. There isnt much out there like this. (908 characters)

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Scratch Beer 38 - 2010 (IPA #2 Of 4) from Tröegs Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 60 ratings.