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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) - Kiuchi Brewery

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)

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Reviews: 216
Hads: 357
Avg: 3.04
pDev: 26.97%
Wants: 6
Gots: 16 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: purplehops on 07-01-2002

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Reviews by Sixpack595:
Photo of Sixpack595
3.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nearly opaque black with a very small amount of head. The thin tan ring of remaining head leaves a little bit of lacing as it goes. Aroma is sour with a touch of chocolaty sweetness. Flavor is much the same with the chocolte taking the fore and a very slight bit of bitterness sneaking in. Easy drinking, but the lactose flavor gets old.

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Photo of RoyalT
2.65/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Appearance – This one poured a dark brown in color with a low head that showed decent retention.

Smell – The darkish malts were rightly complimented with some good cocoa and a hint of milk.

Taste – Oh, where did the sour milk come from? It smells almost rancid and completely overpowered the malts, which fell apart at the tongue.

Mouthfeel – Light to medium-bodied and sour, but not in a good “oud bruin” kind of way.

Sinkability – I couldn't finish much of this bottle.

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Photo of DaPeculierDane
4.02/5  rDev +32.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Note: I am completely ignoring style in this review.

AP: Deep Mahogony body, thin and dissipating tan head.

A: Lambic like sourness. Lactic acid in the extreme. Roasted malts.

T: more lactic acid, roasted malts, coffee, milk, chocolate, lemon peals, lime zest, and wonderful lambic like acids.

MF: SOUR, SOUR, SOUR! Wonderfully sour. Blistering astringency. Thin body, much much too thin for any style but the wonderful sourness is so refreshing. If this beer was marketed as a black lambic it would be much more highly received.

D: Slightly above average.

As a “milk stout” this is the worst I have ever had, but as a beer I just love it. It has so many of the characteristics that I find charming and addicting in lambics, gauzes, and winter saisons. Absolutely unique and innovative.

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Photo of JudgeRoughneck
4.22/5  rDev +38.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

Opaque, brown, milkshake color head is huge on this stout, and slow to go. Nose is roasty coffee, caramel, roast chocolate, herbal hop, and fruity, spicy and nutty yeast products. Crazy.

The first thing that hits me is fruit bouquet, then herbal hop ushers in phenols. There is a sourness I find off-putting and tobacco in the finish. Good if you don't think of it as stout. Awesome with lamb. This stuff is definately different. Mouthfeel gets points off for stinging.

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Photo of Todd
1.96/5  rDev -35.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Presentation: 12oz short brown bottle. No freshness date.

Appearance: Near pitch black beer with dark brown hues and a clinging tan laced head -- good retention.

Smell: "Thick" smelling, milky, sugary ...

Taste: Fizzy mouthfeel, sharp sour flavours (from the lacto), acidic, coarse, dry malts, little sweetness except for hints of chocolate and a dextrin body. Thin, light milky consistency. Apple, pear and earth. Any hop bitterness is masked by the lacto characters and an astringent roasted flavours. Finish leaves an oddness on the palate.

Notes: Kiuchi Brewery produces some outstanding beers, but this is not one of them. There's nothing "sweet" about this beer. It's horribly balanced and the use of lacto in this beer is abusive and overwhelming to the point of making it nearly undrinkable.

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Photo of Magister_Beav
3.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of jmshulk
2.74/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Aroma: There is a bit of a strong cream aroma with some carmel and molasses. I also get a weird sour milk smell, that kind of turns me off.

Appearance: Dark dark brown, basically black, with a nice rocky tan head with a little retention. Little bit of lace. Doesn't look too bad.

Taste: A little bit of molasses sweetness and maybe some malts, but not much. Hop bitterness is too balanced leading to little sweetness. The taste is a bit thin. A coffee aftertaste.

Feel: Like the taste there could be a little more body in this beer. Low carbonation.

Overall: Kind of meh. Probably won't pick this up again. Just doesn't have a nice smooth creamy mouthfeel that I would like. Also not enough sweetness.

Serving: 11.2 oz bottle in shaker
Date: 10/2/2011

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Photo of Jason
3.25/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A shade or two from total black in colour, nice looking foamy tan lace holds to the side of the glass in the beginning.

Smells slightly astringent with a light tartness from the roasted malts … hint of dark caramel and lacto sugar also.

Crisp with a viscous smoothness from the full body and sturdy carbonation. A little tartness from the roasted malts, acrid in a way with some astringency. Some creamy sweetness from the lacto sugar in not enough to balance and the astringent roasted maltiness encroaches on the palate even more. Finishes with the residual lacto sugar sweetness and a fading roasted character.

If it was not for the addition of lacto sugar this brew would be nearly undrinkable. This is a beer to sip with a hearty meal and perhaps too full of a brew that you would want as a session style beer. Not a bad stab at the style.

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Photo of merlin48
2.86/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz bottle with a cute owl on the cap, as well as the label. Pours into a pint tumbler like a light bodied porter, but is very opaque black chestnut in the glass. Not much of a head, but it leaves some cocoa ring lace and a similar oil slick on top.
Aroma is Japanese? Sour cream is not what I was expecting from anybody's stout, but it's here and combines with coca cola, coffee, and bittersweet chocolate flavors to provide a drinkable and challenging experience. It's light bodied for a stout, and has respectable components of dark roasted malts and chocolate notes to overpower the scalded milk notes. A very interesting brew, indeed. If you enjoy chocolate on your cottage cheese, you will definitely like this stout. I'm awarding it a 5.0 for Peculiarity. Not for the squeamish.

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Photo of BlueHammer
3.28/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer definitely requires an acquired taste. It was not especially suited to my normal beer taste, but I was curious so I went ahead and tried it. It was served to me in the bottle which I poured into the glass.

It has a sour milk smell. The smell could also be compared to that of sourdough bread. It pours a very dark, deep brown, completely opaque. The head dissapates quickly leaving some light lacing as it is drunk. The taste is very sour which can make it difficult to drink if you are not used to or don't particularly care for this taste. It is flat with no carbonation.

I think there are better beers of this particular style. This is one that is worth a taste but I doubt I will try it again.

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Photo of warriorsoul
3.31/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to fitzIPAtrick and growler for having this brew on hand.
Pours a pitch black with two full fingers of cocoa-colored head...very thin producing little lace.
Smell is decent...some dark chocolate, a touch of vanilla, and sweet malt in the mix, with some carbonation in the nose.
The taste is enjoyable enough...mild in flavor with mainly chocolate and a sweet vineous character finishing it off.
Mouthfeel is thin and the carbonation is high...either way, it is a decent offering with a bit too much carbonation to consume easily. It is a sipper and gets much better as it warms.
A nice warm up to the evening...

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Photo of tigg924
2.4/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: black in color, 1/3 inch head, opaque

Smell: cream and malt

Taste: burnt malt, sour milk-especially near the end, sugar, semi-sweet chocolate

Mouthfeel: light bodied, sweet, some sourness which does not work with the style, high carbonation

Drinkability: I am not a fan and will pass on in the future. The sourness is a bit too overbearing for the style. When you mix that with the background sugar sweetness, the beer does not work. Way different for the style-not bad if you want just to try a sour beer.

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Photo of Mora2000
2.94/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a brown color with a cream-colored head. The aroma is heavy on the cream, with some lactose, chocolate and roasted malt mixed in. There is also a slight medicinal aroma which I am not really caring for. The flavor is more straightforward, with the basic characteristics of cream, lactose and chocolate. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

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Photo of FMetzger
4.07/5  rDev +33.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Nice dark body. Head is light khaki and thin. Not quite as heady as some.
S: Sweet and slightly grainy. Smells good.
T: Sweetness comes through on middle and back of tongue. Interesting dryness to the tip of the tongue. Not overdone, which I think adds to the drinkability.
M: A little thin, which I was not prepared for with the added lactose. A little fuller of a feel on the tongue would add to this beer.
D: Easy drinker. I definitely could have more than one. Thankfully it is low in alcohol, so that won't be a problem.

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Photo of djmitche
1.16/5  rDev -61.8%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

I have to say up-front that, compared to the other reviews of this beer, I suspect I have a sour bottle. Still, the review stands - if Kiuchi is going to ship sour beer, then I'll review the sour beer.

The appearance is *very* dark, with a tiny brown head that fades before you can put down the bottle. The nose is of the brine from green olives -- seriously! The taste is similar, dominated by a sourness and I could swear a bit of saltiness. I can barely make out some burnt maltiness.

I'm a fan of sweet stouts for their almost syrupy texture. This beer doesn't have any of that - it's very thin. This is consistent with a soured batch, as lots of critters other than S. Cervesiae will happily devour lactose.

I'm not sure I'll finish this bottle, and I'm certainly not tempted to buy another, so I can't give it anything above "Awful" in the drinkability category.

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Photo of innominat
3.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of Alycrocker
3.52/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Photo of WVbeergeek
2.13/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a deep ruby brown almost opaque, with a moccha highly carbonated fizzy two fingered head, and from my pour is leaving no lace at all. The aroma is a sharp slightly acidic sweetness, this is my first time grappling with a milk or cream stout so here it goes. Underneath of the harsh sourness are light coffe tones and dark chocolate from the dark roasted barley malt. The flavor at first seems a bit offensive from the rush of acidity, but I think it's growing on me after my fourth sip a little. The light flavors in the background from the dark roasted malts are definitely overshadowed from the sourness in the flavor creating an unbalance that doesn't form a happy experience with me. Nice to try a stout from a Japan micro, but I will try the Hitachino Nest wit and wheat before I count them off as bad brewers. The overall mouthfeel is a bit thin for this lucious style of a stout, and I just can't get down with this beer on any level. Drinkability is low due to the fact that the sourness overbears the rest of the characteristics of the beer therefore ruining the pleasures this beer has to offer.

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Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330 ml stubby bottle served in a pint glass. Some dark sediment remaining in the bottom of the glass added mid-tasting.

Pours an opaque near-black with a creamy tan head. Head dies down soon but leaves a lasting ring and partial top coat.

The aroma is not as expected, being a bit weak, not particularly sweet, and with a quality suggestive of teriyaki sauce and certainly not that of a typical stout. Aroma suggests a higher ABV than 4%.

The taste too was different than expected, wither based on style or aroma. Most notably, although not bitter this "Sweet Stout" is not sweet. In fact, it has a nice hop balance that is unusual for style and suggestive of a West Coast stout. Some chocolate initially followed by some coffee and teriyaki sauce in the finish. Rating leans towards 3.5.

The mouthfeel is a little bit thin and astringent for style (detriments), as well as crisper and more lively (not a detriment IMO). Semi-dry finish.

O - an enjoyable and modestly distinctive stout that is neither heavy nor sweet.

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Photo of OStrungT
4.02/5  rDev +32.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a very dark brown with a thin light brown head. The head fades quickle, leavinga good lacing.

This beer has a malty sweet aroma. I can desect a slight coffee smell. It has a little nutty presence also. Maybe just a hint of chocolate in there also.

This beer has a light coffee like taste. It has trace flavors of chocolate. It is also pretty sweet. It has a slight flavor of half and half. The kind from McDonalds when it is a little warm.

This beer is carbonated well. It has a creamy texture to it. It goes down smooth, leaving a creamy half and half like aftertaste.

This beer would probably be a good session beer. It is very low in alcohol, so that definately wouldnt be a problem. Also, the flavor is not offensive or overbearing. I think this beer is pretty good. The half and half flavor took a little while to get used to, but not I kind of like it.

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Photo of tappangordo
3/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.02/5  rDev +32.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

(Served in an American pint glass)

A- This beer has a opaque dark brown body with a tan head that is thick and creamy but sounds a bit like soda pop when pouring. The head settles to a thin layer after a bit.

S- The smell of dark roasted malt and grain has a very nutty almost hazelnut aroma to it. There is some earthiness to the roast and it is a light aroma.

T- This beer has a faint nutty flavor and instant coffee (but in a positive way) accent to the malt flavor. There is a strong milk flavor to the malt aswell. There is no real hop finish but a note of dry carbonic bite balances the malts.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a creamy texture that makes the mouthfeel more full. No astringency or alcohol warmth.

D- I would call this a Japanese stout. Its flavors remind me of the taste of traditional Japanese cuisine. Very soft subtle flavors yet complex and interesting at the same time. There are nuances that are good flavors but hard to describe. Nice beer that is subtle, yet mysteriously interesting.

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Photo of Auraan
4.07/5  rDev +33.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured a deep black body with brown highlights when held to light and one finger of bubbly tan head that quickly receded. Overall impression of appearance is of a light stout, with a nice dark body and head formation that starts large yet recedes quickly. Not bad. Scents of milk chocolate and roast malt, light lactic sourness, yogurt-like, moderate notes of coffee with cream sweet cream, some light leather and dark fruit aromas add an aged feel. Overall impression of aroma is of a very apparent milk stout, but one with a great deal of other aromas present adding depth and making this an appealing beer. Flavor begins mildly sweet with notes of coffee with cream, bittersweet and milk chocolates and a light lactic acid sourness. This moves into a dry middle, with notes of coffee, dark chocolate and cream with a still light lactic sourness. Finish is dry with notes of dark coffee and chocolate, roasted malt at moderately high levels, cream at medium levels, hints of raisin at very light levels and a light lactic sourness. Aftertaste is robust roasted malt and a light cream flavor. Overall impression of flavor is of a rather dry stout, not really the sweet stout claimed on the bottle. Still a rather nice dry milk stout, with a pleasant sourness working well with the roast malt. A rather simple overall profile, but still quite pleasant. Mouthfeel is light bodied with light carbonation and a smooth, slightly chalky feel. Overall impression of mouthfeel is of a dry stout, rather pleasant and easily sessionable. Overall this is an excellent dry milk stout. It showcases the addition of the lactose in aroma and flavor and blends it well with the malt while still staying dry. As a sweet stout it lacks, but overall it is a fine example of a different sort of stout, one that is a touch experimental and very pleasant to drink.

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Photo of LXIXME
3.43/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of DagFishHead
1.54/5  rDev -49.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

This review is from my notes of a previous tasting. I'm entering it because I've entered a number of very favorble reviews, and believe it's important to also include reviews of brews that "aren't so hot."
This beer has a reasonably nice appearance. Deep brown, though too light for a stout. Weak head vanished immediately, with no lace to speak of.
Aroma is acidic and overwhelmed by an extremely earthy, mineral and "spoiled milk" nose.
Taste: compared to a Mackeson's, Sam Adams CS or St. Peter's CS, the lacto factor is way, WAY out of balance for me. Extremely earthy (dirt), and an almost stinging acidity. I've traveled quite extensively in the far east, and so I tried very hard to be sensitive to cultural differences in "taste" in this review, but it's hard for me to believe this is something the masses anywhere are clamoring for.
Mouthfeel is way too thin and watery for a stout.
Drinkability: I'm sorry to say I finally poured this beer out (I do that maybe once a year, tops). I gave this tasting numerous chances, letting it warm up, etc... but for my taste, this brew is nearly offensive.

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
71 out of 100 based on 216 ratings.