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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) - Kiuchi Brewery

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214 Reviews
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Reviews: 214
Hads: 352
rAvg: 3.03
pDev: 21.12%
Wants: 6
Gots: 16 | FT: 1
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Japan

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: purplehops on 07-01-2002

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Photo of BeefyMee
3.38/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This is the first Hitachino beer I have tried and also the one that I wanted to try the most. I was expecting something a little different, but I still enjoyed the beer. It only seemed stout-like in appearance. The taste had a wheaty aspect, maybe like Franziskaner, and was also reminiscent of certain Belgian Pales, such as Leffe Blonde. This took some getting used to but I began to come around to it.

Very interesting. Try it just to see what you think. I don't believe I'll be getting this again, though I wouldn't mind it. (531 characters)

Photo of merlin48
2.86/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz bottle with a cute owl on the cap, as well as the label. Pours into a pint tumbler like a light bodied porter, but is very opaque black chestnut in the glass. Not much of a head, but it leaves some cocoa ring lace and a similar oil slick on top.
Aroma is Japanese? Sour cream is not what I was expecting from anybody's stout, but it's here and combines with coca cola, coffee, and bittersweet chocolate flavors to provide a drinkable and challenging experience. It's light bodied for a stout, and has respectable components of dark roasted malts and chocolate notes to overpower the scalded milk notes. A very interesting brew, indeed. If you enjoy chocolate on your cottage cheese, you will definitely like this stout. I'm awarding it a 5.0 for Peculiarity. Not for the squeamish. (792 characters)

Photo of steorn
3.66/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours very dark with a noisy tan head.The head dissapates rather quickly to leave just a thin coating.
Smells sweet and malty with some of the roasted notes expected from a stout. On first taste I get some sweetness and alcohol, then a short burst of roasted malt. It finishes rather quickly.The mouthfeel is somewhat thin yet coating.There is a little more depth as it warms,but there doesnt seem to be much to this.Its not a bad stout but certainly not anything to shout about. (481 characters)

Photo of genaro
2.82/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A review of a beer containing lactose milk sugar by a lactose intolerant person may be prejudicial but here it is anyway. This beer has an opaque dark brown color and no head. The aroma was pretty much that of caramel. It has a smooth taste of sweet milky caramel with undertones of toasted malt. There are hints of chocolate as well. The hops were pretty laid back with only a little bit of bite. The mouthfeel was a little doughy with not much carbonation. I really did not care for the lactose milk sugar after taste. However, most people might find this a good dessert beer. (578 characters)

Photo of DESTRO
1.79/5  rDev -40.9%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

ok first off this is the 24oz bottles and i was totally hyped on the bottle, it looks cool as hell. it pours dark brown, not black and with really no head to speak of. the smell is somewhat modest and contains cocoa, malt and has an odd spoiled milk smell. taste wise? ugh. talk about a let down. it honestly tastes like crap. sure theres malty chocolate notes but theyre smashed by the odd taste of rotten milk. it grossed me the f**k out. i mean im always one to finish a beer no matter how bad, but 3/4 of the way through this, down the drain it went. it was crisp but thin and not what youd expect from a stout. total bummer and expensive. not gona hit this one up again, ever. (681 characters)

Photo of DagFishHead
1.54/5  rDev -49.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

This review is from my notes of a previous tasting. I'm entering it because I've entered a number of very favorble reviews, and believe it's important to also include reviews of brews that "aren't so hot."
This beer has a reasonably nice appearance. Deep brown, though too light for a stout. Weak head vanished immediately, with no lace to speak of.
Aroma is acidic and overwhelmed by an extremely earthy, mineral and "spoiled milk" nose.
Taste: compared to a Mackeson's, Sam Adams CS or St. Peter's CS, the lacto factor is way, WAY out of balance for me. Extremely earthy (dirt), and an almost stinging acidity. I've traveled quite extensively in the far east, and so I tried very hard to be sensitive to cultural differences in "taste" in this review, but it's hard for me to believe this is something the masses anywhere are clamoring for.
Mouthfeel is way too thin and watery for a stout.
Drinkability: I'm sorry to say I finally poured this beer out (I do that maybe once a year, tops). I gave this tasting numerous chances, letting it warm up, etc... but for my taste, this brew is nearly offensive. (1,111 characters)

Photo of RockyTopHeel
4.02/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thin, dense, espresso crema-colored head. Sweet Stout is very, very dark brown in color and smells a bit like Kahlua, with chocolate and cafe latte notes. The taste is creamy, with strong coffee and cream flavor and a touch of dry cocoa. The influence of the lactose is easy to detect, as it makes this brew creamy, sweet, and a touch sour in the finish. Nice, full mouthfeel. This beer isn't at all oppressive, especially for a stout, and is surprisingly easy to drink. Overall, it reminds me very much of a slightly smoky Kahlua flavor. I'll have this one again. (564 characters)

Photo of chaduvel
3.4/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Had this at the New Bukowski's in Inman Sq. Served in the ceramic Hitachino Nest glass so I couldn't get a good look at the color. Head is the color of a chocolate milk shake. Smell is distinctly of caramels. Really smells of caramels as the beer warmed up. Taste: creamy and milky similar to 1% milk consistency, can taste the lactose and the sweet caramel and malt flavors, finishes by coating the back of my throat like a glass of milk would. Interesting offering, worth trying but not drinking on a regular basis. (517 characters)

Photo of mickeymac
2.98/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Although it's quite dark, it has a hint shows a hint of mahogany when held up to the light. The heady was bubbly but disappeared almost immediately without a trace of lace on the glass. The smell is light, with just detectable notes of chocolate and roasted malt. The flavor is also a bit underwhelming. Nothing about it is particularly offensive; it just doesn't stand out in any way. It's undoubtedly watery for a stout. Although it's only 3.9%, it doesn't lend itself to session drinking. I'll pass on this one. (514 characters)

Photo of UncleJimbo
3.91/5  rDev +29%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on tap at Popeye in Tokyo, Japan.

This stout poured black as soy sauce with a creamy, tan head (typical nitrogen foam). The smell was sweet and malty but modest. The taste was sweet but also somewhat tangy (almost a hint of tartness). Tastes of malt and cocoa were evident. The mouthfeel was smooth, creamy, and clean. The body was medium, and the carbonation feel was low. There was an initial tartness on the tongue which gave way to the sweetness. This was a good stout on tap. I liked this sample better than the bottle I had sampled in the US. (559 characters)

Photo of WVbeergeek
2.13/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a deep ruby brown almost opaque, with a moccha highly carbonated fizzy two fingered head, and from my pour is leaving no lace at all. The aroma is a sharp slightly acidic sweetness, this is my first time grappling with a milk or cream stout so here it goes. Underneath of the harsh sourness are light coffe tones and dark chocolate from the dark roasted barley malt. The flavor at first seems a bit offensive from the rush of acidity, but I think it's growing on me after my fourth sip a little. The light flavors in the background from the dark roasted malts are definitely overshadowed from the sourness in the flavor creating an unbalance that doesn't form a happy experience with me. Nice to try a stout from a Japan micro, but I will try the Hitachino Nest wit and wheat before I count them off as bad brewers. The overall mouthfeel is a bit thin for this lucious style of a stout, and I just can't get down with this beer on any level. Drinkability is low due to the fact that the sourness overbears the rest of the characteristics of the beer therefore ruining the pleasures this beer has to offer. (1,111 characters)

Photo of aaronh
2.38/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a dark mahogany color, topped by a rather thin, tan head. The aroma is faily modest, sweet with notes roasted malt. The taste is odd, initially presenting a slightly sweet roasted taste, immediately followed by a tinge of sourness. The dry roasted flavor comes back for the finish, and last into the aftertaste, but it is rejoined by the slight sourness. The mouthfeel is rather light, not having much more body than a typical lager. Drinkability is not great, because it's just not that enjoyable. I guess they all can't be good beers, right? (549 characters)

Photo of BigHead
2.81/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I found this odd since a lot of my Asian friends are lactose intolerant, which (and I may be misinformed) is common among Asian folk. But anyway, on to the beer. It's a nice looking stout, with carbonation galore and a nice head. Boy, I think I smelled a sweet cider smell initially, but then I could detect a slight roasted malt, chocolate aroma come through. Bubbles dance on the dance which is washed away with a milky consistency. A sweet, milk chocolate flavor and kinda ends with a tinge of sourness. Each sip finishes with a milky feeling. This was a hard beer to finish the entire bottle. (596 characters)

Photo of BeerResearcher
1.93/5  rDev -36.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Remember when the Japanese could mimic any current or new technology and then figure out a way to make it cheaper and better? Well, it didn't happen here. What the hell were they thinking? Milk sugar in a beer? Was this an attempt to bring back distant memories, or should I say “mammaries”, of our early childhood? This tar colored concoction is really weird! A sour off kilter chocolate taste stands out followed by a hint of camphor and pasty malt. There are hops somewhere but if I'm not mistaken, tastes like old apple juice. The smell is strange as well - a cross between chocolate and sour balls candy. The head disappeared too quickly for me ponder their existence, but I was distracted trying to contemplate what the heck I was drinking. (748 characters)

Photo of marburg
3.48/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Holy crap, batman -- it's chocolate milk with booze in it!

You can tell as you pour it that it's pretty light-bodied. Not a lot of head. That which does form is reasonably light, something of a classroom-walls putty color.

I did a double take when I tasted it. It doesn't FEEL like a stout at all, but it looks like one. So it's something of a neat trick. The word "lacto" on the bottle implies that they're going for milky feel and taste, and that's what they get. So kudos to them on that alone. Not entirely what I'd hoped for though since I generally think of stouts as a bit more robust and, well, ballsy. Easy to drink because it's so thin. Not a terrible beer, and it is certainly unique, but I wouldn't drink it a lot. (732 characters)

Photo of aracauna
2.41/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Dark but not completely opaque. Nice chunky tan head starts off nicely but fades fairly quickly for a stout. Not very big nose, but some cream. The flavor is some roastiness and chocolate but it's dominated by the sourness. It's also fairly sweet. The flavor is way too thin for a good stout. In fact, more malt would probably balance out the sourness, after all Bell's can make great stouts despite the sourness. The body is also on the thin side. (448 characters)

Photo of francisweizen
2.78/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Notes: apparantly this beer is available in a 720ml bottle as well as the standard 11.something oz one!

IMO this is Kiuchi Brewery's worst beer. This beer pours out a dark black colour with a chocolaty tan head. This smelled very milky and sweet(almost like chalk)and the taste was pretty similar. Very roasted and malty like a stout should be, but the Lacto just does not do it for me! This had a decent mouthfeel and it was drinkable, but overall this is a thin and sub-par offering from the normally amazinbg brewery from Japan...
cheers!
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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.18/5  rDev +38%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours an almost completely opaque black with minimal hazy brown highlights at the rim. A short but creamy dark tan head soon drops to a collar. It does, howwever, last throughout the glass. The nose is somewhat limited but offers a thin roastiness and a mildly tart fruitiness. The body is light with a very fine and mild carbonation (from bottle conditioning) that's silky smooth and lightly creamy in the mouth. The flavor is quite intriguing, and not at all what's normally expected of a sweet stout. It starts lightly fruity - turning gently tart - and warms to reveal some dark toffee and baker's chocolate followed by the promised sweetness before finishing with a lightly dry and mildly roasty finish. It's quite unique, as are all of the Hitachino Nest beers, with an interesting twist on the style. Refreshing, fairly complex and interesting, and quite enjoyable. Certainly worth trying for those who seek unusual beers! (929 characters)

Photo of Naerhu
3.05/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

This maybe the best Japanese stout I have come across. Although, it is a bit watery, it has a lovely dark chocolate aroma. It has a high acidity which I believe makes it refreshing, which is not a characteristic found in stouts. It is definitely brewed with the Japanese consumer in mind as I have not had beers from other countries with such high acidity. Other reviewers stated they noted sour taste. Acidity is often mistaken for sour taste (in drinks such as wine and sake) especially by drinkers who are sensitive to acidity. I challenge you who think this is a sour brew to reconsider you position. Cheers! (612 characters)

Photo of BillyBrew
3.55/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Sweet stouts are, well, pretty sweet. Nearly-black colour with a thick, brownish head that settles into a broad lace. Heavy syrupy-sweet nose. Heavy sweet-stout flavor with an odd toasted tastes that comes and go, slight chocolate malts and earthiness. Medium body surrounded by a fine, fizzy coarseness.

My bottle may have been a bit off (maybe a few too many warm closet days), but its sweet-stout heart is still strong. Sweet, toasty and earth stout. Cheers! (472 characters)

Photo of putnam
3.43/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

There is no doubt that the Kiuchi brewery excells at beers with finesse and mystery. But is that what you want in a "stout"? That is not a rhetorical question. I give them credit for putting their signature on a style that seems to be heading in an opposite direction: bigger, bolder, stickier.
Aromas of chocolate skim milk and soy. Decent retention of the latte-colored head. Wispy, watery, chocolate flavors surround mild bitterness, Mexican mole (moe-lay), and water cracker notes. Not heavy. (497 characters)

Photo of Jason
3.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A shade or two from total black in colour, nice looking foamy tan lace holds to the side of the glass in the beginning.

Smells slightly astringent with a light tartness from the roasted malts … hint of dark caramel and lacto sugar also.

Crisp with a viscous smoothness from the full body and sturdy carbonation. A little tartness from the roasted malts, acrid in a way with some astringency. Some creamy sweetness from the lacto sugar in not enough to balance and the astringent roasted maltiness encroaches on the palate even more. Finishes with the residual lacto sugar sweetness and a fading roasted character.

If it was not for the addition of lacto sugar this brew would be nearly undrinkable. This is a beer to sip with a hearty meal and perhaps too full of a brew that you would want as a session style beer. Not a bad stab at the style. (859 characters)

Photo of Todd
1.96/5  rDev -35.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Presentation: 12oz short brown bottle. No freshness date.

Appearance: Near pitch black beer with dark brown hues and a clinging tan laced head -- good retention.

Smell: "Thick" smelling, milky, sugary ...

Taste: Fizzy mouthfeel, sharp sour flavours (from the lacto), acidic, coarse, dry malts, little sweetness except for hints of chocolate and a dextrin body. Thin, light milky consistency. Apple, pear and earth. Any hop bitterness is masked by the lacto characters and an astringent roasted flavours. Finish leaves an oddness on the palate.

Notes: Kiuchi Brewery produces some outstanding beers, but this is not one of them. There's nothing "sweet" about this beer. It's horribly balanced and the use of lacto in this beer is abusive and overwhelming to the point of making it nearly undrinkable. (811 characters)

Photo of Wildman
3.03/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

It poured a very dark brown color and formed a medium bubbly tan head that receeded quickly and left some lace. The aroma was of malt and some chocolate. The flavor was of malt and chocolate. The lacto may account for the sour taste and finish to the beer. Any hopes of this beer to be enjoyable are hurt by that aspect of the beer. A weird concept to try with a beer. (373 characters)

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
71 out of 100 based on 214 ratings.