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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) - Kiuchi Brewery

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BA SCORE
71
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329 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 329
Reviews: 208
rAvg: 3.03
pDev: 21.45%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Kiuchi Brewery visit their website
Japan

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: purplehops on 07-01-2002)
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Photo of GilGarp
3.33/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz. stubby brown bottle served cold into a lowball glass.

Lacto is very dark brown in color and the tan colored head settles almost immediately. It basically looks like a flat coke.

Aroma is sweet and full of roasty malt. This part seems just right for the style.

Flavor is a bit odd. At first it seems like a very light porter. Given it's dark color, I was expecting much more in the chocolate malts flavor but it's so mild. Milk stouts usually are, I understand, but this one is even more so. Then the weird part - it tastes like someone squirted a little lemon juice in there before bottling. It comes through right on the finish of each sip but it's a strange (off?) flavor that I wasn't expecting.

Mouthfeel is lighter than most stouts with a effervescence that seems wrong for the style. Finishes sweet so I doubt it was a champagne yeast but that's what the mouthfeel is telling me.

Overall this is a confused and confusing beer. It's probably worth a try but, given the price, I would never buy it again.

GilGarp, May 27, 2010
Photo of jeranbrews
3.55/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark, clear, coffee color, with dark rich mocha-blood coloured head. Some lacing and some continued carbonation

S - Very inconsistent, but at the time of this sampling. It was great. I wanted to give it a 5. It smells just like whole wheat bread toasted and covered in butter.

T - Not that fantastic. Some nice simple roasted and sweet tones. Not special

M - Creamy, they make some good proper stouts

D - If it weren for thewildly inconsistant nature of this brewer I would saw they are great

jeranbrews, Mar 05, 2010
Photo of Sallerj
2.6/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer doesn't have much aroma, but what it does have is slightly sour and stout-y. The taste is similar, with dark coffee flavors and a sour aftertaste. Being mildly lactose-intolerant, I poured most of this beer out, thinking it wasn't worth the possibility of a stomache ache.

Sallerj, Mar 02, 2010
Photo of dciBA
2.2/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours black into a pint glass with no head and no lacing. Smells really funky. Lots of sourness, that's about it for the nose. Taste is sour as well, with some dry cocoa in the finish. The cocoa is the only redeeming quality in my opinion. Body is average at best with a bit too much carbonation. Funky, yet boring stout. I have no desire to ever drink this again.

dciBA, Jan 20, 2010
Photo of canucklehead
3.78/5  rDev +24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Funky little beer with a low ABV and a slightly sour finish. Nice roasted malts and some chocolate notes with the slightly sweet finish which is true to the style. I like the sourish finish as it works with the sweetness. Interesting beer as it is a style you don't often see around

canucklehead, Jan 18, 2010
Photo of tigg924
2.35/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: black in color, 1/3 inch head, opaque

Smell: cream and malt

Taste: burnt malt, sour milk-especially near the end, sugar, semi-sweet chocolate

Mouthfeel: light bodied, sweet, some sourness which does not work with the style, high carbonation

Drinkability: I am not a fan and will pass on in the future. The sourness is a bit too overbearing for the style. When you mix that with the background sugar sweetness, the beer does not work. Way different for the style-not bad if you want just to try a sour beer.

tigg924, Jan 18, 2010
Photo of drpimento
2.65/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Yawner. Especially for this beer style. Poured with a short but enduring tan head and good lace. Aroma is mild of malt, roastiness, caramel, and chocolate. Flavor's about the same, but with some tartness and funkyness. Body is thin and ok carbonation. Not one of my favs. Cant see it as a session.

drpimento, Nov 11, 2009
Photo of Stunner97
4.18/5  rDev +38%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I have to say I actually really did enjoy this beer, it pour a very dark black in color with little to no carbonation and a slight white head. Its smelled of roasted malts and espresso, nice yet not overwhelming nose. I actually very much enjoyed the flavor to this stout. Nice sweetness and malt, a lot of roasted malts and sweet coffee and hints of chocolate. Very well balanced and not off putting in anyway. Mouthfeel was medium bodied soft and smooth. Overall drink ability on this was actually great and I liked this as a really nice session stout if money was no option. Its only at 4 percent alcohol and the flavor does not seem to suffer much from this at all. Overall this was more then I would have been expecting from a Japanese stout. This is one I would seek out again and think would go great with a good meal or to drink as something that wont get you bombed. Would be a good beer to have out when you would still have to drive later and dont want to be getting a dui with out sacrificing flavor in the process.

Stunner97, Nov 06, 2009
Photo of woodychandler
2.35/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

It poured with a finger of deep-tan head with good retention. Nose was dank with notes of molasses, prunes, and dark chocolate. Color was a deep, dark brown with only cola highlights at the edges. Mouthfeel was medium with a slightly sour dark chocolate flavor. Finish was slightly bitter, like bittersweet chocolate and coffee. For a milk/sweet stout, this was pretty sour. Oof.

woodychandler, Nov 01, 2009
Photo of Cyberkedi
3.38/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours deep, opaque sable with a fairly thick, if not persistent, light tan head. Aroma is malty and yeasty as well as chocolaty and a little sweet. Flavor is more like an ale than a stout, mainly malty with a chocolaty undertone and nutty and coffee hints - tasty nonetheless. Texture is smooth and fairly tingly. Dang, I really like for a stout to taste like a stout.

Cyberkedi, Oct 28, 2009
Photo of OldSchoolGamer
3.63/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had this beer about a year ago and remember it being one of the worst beers I have ever had. So, I am coming into this review with low expectations. I decided to give it another go and see if it is as bad as I remember. Here is my review:

A: It pours way darker and thicker than I remember. Initially when I had it, it poured a thin brownish color and it had little white floaties in it. Now it is pitch black, dark, thick and free of floaties. Head is also very creamy looking.

S/T: The aroma is sweet and full of lactose. Lots of licorice and smoke going one. The taste is actually very good. Way better than I remember it. The first time I had it, it tasted like cough syrup mixed with spit. This tastes like a stout. Pretty sweet, with a decent roast character. I also get a lot of black licorice, smoke, tobacco, and a hint of coffee. Surprisingly complex and tasty.

M/D: Mouthfeel is a little lighter than a typical stout. I would say medium bodied. Somewhat creamy. Drinks very well. Could be a session stout due to the low ABV. Good stuff.

Wow, I started this review expecting to tear apart this beer. But it is very good and well worth trying. I wonder if the recipe has changed as I don't remember this beer tasting anything like this. Even if you tried this beer before, try a fresher batch of it and see if it is different than you remember. Very good and tasty stout, and this is coming from someone who almost exclusively drinks Imperial Stouts.

OldSchoolGamer, Oct 27, 2009
Photo of Brad007
3.48/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice black color with a thin brown head into my fluted glass. Color is where it should be.

Aroma is sweet/creamy with a hint of coffee and chocolate. Not overly sweet or bitter. Just right.

Taste is let's see, creamy and full of chocolate and coffee flavors. None of the flavors seem to show too much. Would be balanced but it's a little too thin.

Mouthfeel is full of lingering flavors but a fourth flavor shows up and it seems unpleasant. Just an odd aftertaste.

Not bad but the aftertaste doesn't seem right. It's also somewhat thin as well. Worth a try regardless.

Brad007, Oct 18, 2009
Photo of capra12
3/5  rDev -1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed on 8/31/09 served out of a weyervacher pint glass solo,

Appearance: Dark Mohagundy, with two finger head.

Smell: There is a distinct hint of sour roasted coffee.

Taste: Opens slightly malty. There is a hint of roasted coffee/ chocolate from the middle to the end with the typical milk stout sour notes, leaving a mildy bitter aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied considering it is a milk stout with minimal carbonation.

Drinkability: I personally like milk stouts but this is a milk stout I wouldn't have again. I'd rather have a Mackeson or a Lancasters Milk stout.

capra12, Sep 01, 2009
Photo of jwhawkins81
3.6/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Aroma - Definite sweetness over a roasted malted aroma.

Appearance - Not much carbonation or head. Beer was pretty dark.

Taste - Wow. Pretty much a sweetened stout. Sweet flavor than roasted malts and coffee. What's not to like?

Notes - Might wear on you over the course of a night. The light carbonation could be improved but this beer still ain't bad.

jwhawkins81, Jul 12, 2009
Photo of Richardberg
3.88/5  rDev +28.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - poured from a bottle into a pint glass. mahogany liquid, moderate cream foam that didn't last. Within the realm of acceptability for a stout but not a very assertive look comparatively speaking.

S - lactose, vanilla, and cherry. Unusual (in a good way) but the smells remain rooted in malts. So it's almost like a new brand of cherry vanilla soda, but gently reminds you it's still a beer.

T - distinctively sweet, though not via the "sharp" / "tart" / "crisp" sensation I get from many milk stouts. Prominent syrupy malts. The more unusual aromas are kind of drowned, but it's ok for this style to be one sided. Smooth but unremarkable finish.

Note: do not let this beer sit out! I left a dL or two in the bottom of the glass while I was distracted with something, just for an hour, and came back to find some sort of off-brand diet cola. The flavor assaulted you with a sweetness that reminded me of saccharine, but even more bitter & metallic (and turned into said aftertaste almost instantly). Gave it to my GF to make sure I wasn't crazy -- sure enough we both had to chase the taste away with another drink after pouring out the remaining Hitachino.

M - It avoided being thin or watery, but didn't do anything for me.

D - Interesting and worth remembering. Still, it's far enough off the beaten path to remain a specialty beer. Especially at its price. There are occasions where it'll be the perfect choice, but they are rare. Until then there are better deals if I just want a "normal" milk stout.

Richardberg, Jul 10, 2009
Photo of chicagobeerriot
2.25/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Boy this was a big disappointment. I like some of what Kiuchi does, but this beer is a one-note wonder. Pours dark ruby with an effervescent head that foreshadows the overly carbonated mouthfeel. The lactose sweetness definitely comes through, but it has amost no roasted malt backbone to provide balance. Without any roasted bitterness or coffee qualities, the lactose dominates with an unpleasant soy / metallic quality. There just isn't enough here to make this worth your while.

chicagobeerriot, Jun 21, 2009
Photo of katan
3.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle into a pint

A - Pours a not completely opaque dark brown to black color. Upon seeing through the light, it has some amber hues to it. Head formation is light, with only a mocha colored film.

S - An interesting scent here - very muted, but what I do detect is almost a cinnamon sweetness. Some yeast notes are hanging around as well.

T - Starts off rather empty in flavor, with only the lightest malt flavors there. Little bitterness appears mid-stream, only some light sweetness. Finishes with a combination of roasted barley and some malty sweetness. Aftertaste is oddly sour.

M - The carbonation bite is deceivingly strong as compared to the appearance. The mouthfeel is somewhat thin for a stout, as is the aftertaste.

D - ABV is close to wholesome milk than a milk stout. Easy drinking from that point of view. Flavors are just odd enough that it would slow you down.

Interesting beer. Weird, but interesting.

katan, Jun 05, 2009
Photo of SykDoc
3.03/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle into a snifter. It looks a moderate brown and becomes essentially opaque when held to the light. A light 1 inch tan head from a reduces fairly quickly to minimal lacing.

The smell is a unique combination which to me comes across as almost apple cider. There is a sweetness and somewhat bitter component. I do not pick up a whole lot of coffee or chocolate from the malts.

The taste also seems to have a cider (sour) like part. The coffee/roasted malts were a little more present than in the smell as were the the dark fruits. A very interesting sweetness in the belch.

The mouthfeel revealed a medium bodied stout. It seems a bit too carbonated for my liking and definitely more when I compare to others. A nice bitter dryness sits on the back of your tongue. A combination of too light and lacking some of the creaminess, as well as the carbonation moves it down.

Overall, this is an okay beer. It has the benefit of not being overly potent which helps make it tolerable to have more than one but the taste and smell make it seem like something I would only have once.

SykDoc, Mar 30, 2009
Photo of dfillius
4.05/5  rDev +33.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass
A: Aggressive pour yields 1 finger tan head that dissipates fgairly fast. Dark, dark brown - almost opaque, but red highlights exist along the bottom edge.
S: Malted milkball (whoppers), teriyaki sauce, black cherry, surprising combination, but good!
T: Fruit, milk, sweetness. Very interesting, like a blackberry malt. That flavor gives way to a dark bread flavor, then pleasant hookah tobacco smoke at the end. Some tart, wild almost Brett-like notes exist in here as well.
M: Light and a bit fizzy. Very light for a stout. A tad heavier than Guinness, but I'd like more body in a stout, especially a milk stout.
D: High drinkability due to good ratings on the above. Low alcohol makes this almost a session beer. Slightly odd taste brings down overall drinkability.

dfillius, Mar 04, 2009
Photo of spointon
3.13/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

I poured this one from a 12oz brown bottle into a shaker pint glass.

A= This stout poured a near total black in color with a 1" fluffy tan head. The head dropped fast and left only a couple spots of lace.

S= Aroma was full of heavy dark sweetness, with a lot of vinous and raisin notes. Some faint roasted malts in there too.

T= Started with creamy and caramelly malt sweetness with a bit of roast bitterness. Lots of that wierd raisin character too. Finish was all lingering sweetness.

MF= Heavy body with a decidedly crisp carbonation feel. Felt almost oily on the tongue despite the carbonation level.

D= Not a terrible beer, just not a very good tasting example of the style.

spointon, Feb 25, 2009
Photo of jwc215
2.9/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours dark brown/black with a fizzy/bubbly brown head. It looked good at first glance, but it soon (loudly) fizzled to a small, shortly-lived patch. No lacing stuck.

The smell is of sour, berry-like fruitiness at first - almost vinegary. Subsequent smells reveal some chocolate - sweet, unroasted coffee, and milk. The initial aroma almost put me off completely.

The taste is sour, but with chocolate and (unroasted) coffee. Lactose certainly present. There is an acidic astringency in the finish.

Fizzy carbonation settles about mid-way through, improving it. Light-bodied, but not too watery.

It makes something of a comeback as it progresses, but has a sour undertow that doesn't help.

jwc215, Feb 16, 2009
Photo of erz316
2.25/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

330ml bottle poured into old speckled hen pint glass.

A - sure looks good. the bottle pours a deep black, completely opaque bod; on top rests a light brown head with good retention. nothing I can complain about.

S - smells like malted milk: you've got sweet roasted malts, combining with the obvious milk scent... I dont quite know, just really smells like a box of whoopers. there is also a bit of caramel in there as well.

T - ugh. now I see what every one was talking about! I've never had a beer that had a such an undesirable sour flavour before, and not a good sour. the sour is not quite like a sour cream, more it is like if you leave (I know this from experience sadly) a package of Fage greek strained yogurt in your fridge for several months, go to college and come back and try to eat it. yeah, it was a weird sensation. there is some sweet roasted malt flavour, at the back of the tongue, as well as some chocolate flavour int eh mouth at the back of the tongue. but good god the spoiled milk flavour hits the tip of the tongue hard! the finish is a bit smoother, with the malts making a resurgence, while the aftertaste is clean and a bit sour.

MF&D - I think I may have finally found a beer with a more unapealing consistency than guinness draught! but seriously this beer could man up, and get some body to match its midnight black color. I would certainly not want another one of these beers.

erz316, Feb 06, 2009
Photo of TMB0424
2.48/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Pours a deep black body, with tiny hints of brown edges when held to the light. Tan head disappears fairly quickly but ended up leaving pretty good lacing.

Aromas of sugars, sweet milk are up front. Roasted malts and what seems to be a sour element are in the background. Nothing too good, nothing too bad here.

Taste is of really funky, sour milk. Roasted malts linger around with hints of chocolate. The sweetness in the aroma is pretty much nowhere to be found - it's completely masked by this sour flavor. Like milk gone bad. Not very good... not very good at all.

Mouthfeel is decent, creamy and smooth - but somewhat light, especially for a stout. I personally like sour ales, funky brews - but this just missed its mark, in my opinion. It was just too much, or maybe just not what I was expecting, but either way I didn't enjoy this very much. I guess it's worth a shot as it is a pretty original and interesting brew, however.

TMB0424, Jan 29, 2009
Photo of jmalex
2.48/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

I've seen these for a long time but finally decided to take the plunge and buy one. We'll see how this works out...

APPEARANCE: Pours a dark brown with a loose-bubbled off-white head. It shrinks immediately to a thin collar with a still surface.

SMELL: Not terribly intense but has a good combination of roastiness and lactose sweetness. Otherwise there's a bit of caramel and dark fruits with a moderate alcohol heat.

TASTE: Whoa, not good. A very empty-tasting beer with little roast or chocolate flavor. The lactic sweetness takes on a sour tartness, albeit not a strong one. Other than that, there's not a whole lot going on in this beer at all.

MOUTHFEEL: Medium bodied but waaay to thin for the style. The carbonation is very low, even for this type of beer.

DRINKABILITY: This is not a good beer. I'm struggling through and already planning my next choice.

Ah well, you can't win 'em all. At least I can say I tried it.

jmalex, Jan 09, 2009
Photo of Monkeyknife
2.93/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from the bottle a deep dark black with just a thin sliver of tan head.

Aroma of roasted malts, red berries, and sour milk. Yep, sour milk.

Taste is fairly weak. Some roasted malts, coffee, and that sour milk again. Sourness lingers through the finish.

Thin mouthfeel and lightly carbonated.

Hitachino Nest has always been a homerun hitter in my book...until this one. It does nothing for me. Watery and sour are two descriptors I don't enjoy in a milk stout.

Monkeyknife, Nov 23, 2008
Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
71 out of 100 based on 329 ratings.