Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) - Kiuchi Brewery

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BA SCORE
71
okay

333 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 333
Reviews: 209
rAvg: 3.03
pDev: 21.45%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Japan

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: purplehops on 07-01-2002)
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Photo of warriorsoul
3.33/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to fitzIPAtrick and growler for having this brew on hand.
Pours a pitch black with two full fingers of cocoa-colored head...very thin producing little lace.
Smell is decent...some dark chocolate, a touch of vanilla, and sweet malt in the mix, with some carbonation in the nose.
The taste is enjoyable enough...mild in flavor with mainly chocolate and a sweet vineous character finishing it off.
Mouthfeel is thin and the carbonation is high...either way, it is a decent offering with a bit too much carbonation to consume easily. It is a sipper and gets much better as it warms.
A nice warm up to the evening...

Photo of smcolw
2.63/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Very light head for a stout without any lace whatsoever. Accurate in the color (black with a beige head).

Am I imagining this? I smell soy sauce behind the traditional stout aromas (ie. salty and fishy). OK, I've smelled it five times at this point and I'm still detecting this, so I don't think I'm crazy.

The flavor is an improvement--the saltiness is present, but muted. Not much in terms of roasted flavors. The body is very thin for the style. This is like a beginner's stout for those who are not ready for the big boys from Ireland.

Photo of WesWes
3.73/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a deep, dark black color with a thick frothy brown head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is average. It has a weird black malt scent that is a bit tart smelling. There may be some chocolate malts in here as well. The taste is good. It has a tangy crystal and black malt flavor that is sweet with lactose, creamy on the finish. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This was an interesting take on a sweet stout. I liked the taste although it was a bit tangy instead of retaining a true stout -like flavor.

Photo of packetknife
2.9/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Very slighly burned black but not quite jet. Medium brown dense head that held. The smell was fantastic IMO with tons of coffee, milk, and brown sugar. It even faded and hit you again each sniff. Somewhat overly carbonated causing the taste to be a bit flighty. Definite milk and malt but it comes of as very artificial and not brewed. As if they had something overly malty and decided to add sugar and half-and-hald as an afterthought. Felt OK, actually quite good, but not very drinkable as inconsistent and generally weird as it is.

Photo of ChrisBowers
3.83/5  rDev +26.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I liked this beer a lot, but I think this is one of those love it or hate it beers without much middle ground. Poured with a huge amount of carbonation. Too much actually. Once that had disipated, sweet chocolaty aromas were present. Taste... lots of sweetness, chocolate, some caramel and malt. Not much hops. You can tell its a lacto stout, very candy-chocolate like. Mouthfeel was too carbonated, but not bad. A nice drinkable stout at 3.9% if you like a sweet stout. Price however is kinda prohibitive. I'd drink it again, but the cost would keep me away when there's other world class offerings out there at that price or less.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.58/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer sits in my glass a dark, almost black color, it shows a rich brown, clear color when held up to the light. The head is wispy and light brown at first, but once roused shows a frothy brown head. The aroma smells lightly of coffee, with notes of sweet chocolate, and a hint of astringent roasted grain. The beer is surprisingly dry up front, with a certain acidity to it that seems to be mainly contributed by the dark malts. This beer has notes of dark chocolate, a bit of lightly acidic espresso, and even a bit of milk chocolate. This beer has a certain fullness to it as it hits my tongue but all in all it is fairly light on the palate. This beer was not at all what I was expecting from a sweet stout, really only lightly sweet, but I probably like it better because of this.

Photo of dansteino
3.8/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Little more than Average. Dark, muddy brown. Very little head. Good lacing.

Smell: Pretty good. Caramel. Chocolate milk. Some ripe fruit. Some sour fruit (like a Flanders Red).

Taste: Different. Some chocolate. Lots of sweetness. Some sourness. A little too light and watery.

Interesting. Not bad. A little expensive. I would drink this again . . . especially if somebody else were buying.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.83/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Barely opaque (only because it's an overcast day) dark walnut with magnanimous red-amber highlights. The wheat toast brown head looks good right after the pour, but can't maintain its size or structure for long. I'm left looking at one finger of nearly featureless foam that has left the glass untouched in its hurry to depart.

Sweet Stout smells like a sweet stout, although not an especially good one. There's a modest degree of roastedness with some milk chocolate, but little else to keep my nose interested. A 'chocolate milk' sweetness is evident as well, thanks to the adjunct (lactose) that was used. No badness, just not much goodness.

The flavor is, in a word, odd. The beer is sweet, although not cloyingly so, with one of the leanest stout bodies that I've ever experienced. It's obvious that the sweetness comes from an outsider and not from the roasting of the grain. It's too artificial-tasting and seems a thing apart, completely separate from the rest of the flavor profile. There's also a sourness/acidity that is at least as prominent, if not more so, and is as annoying as the lactose.

I can also appreciate a very mild hop presence (Kent Goldings as it turns out) that I'm unable to enjoy because I find it impossible to filter out the rest of the flavor contributors. The unquestionably light mouthfeel, especially for a stout, makes a bid for medium thanks to the addition of the milk sugar.

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) is a peculiar beer to be sure. That peculiarity, rather than making it good or interesting, makes it not so good and not that interesting. The major culprit, I believe, is the addition of the lactose. It has more than enough other faults, but losing that artificial sweetness would at least clear the decks so that the malt, hops and yeast could be appreciated on their own merits.

Photo of Gusler
3.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer emerges from the 330ml brown bottle a soot black with a minimal frothy tan head that vanishes quickly leaving the lace thin and somewhat patchy. Nose has a modest roasted grain aroma, the acidity quite noticeable, caramel, some milk sweetness, with the start sweet and the grain profile light, the top is light to moderate in its feel. Finish is ferine in its acidity, the hops present but light, the aftertaste chalky and dry, a different beer for sure, cannot say it did much for me, but something different never hurts IMHO.

Photo of acrawf6
3.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a very interesting and comlex beer. Poured out as a very opaque beer, head was thick and tanned like a coke head. It had a sour smell that was also pretty present in the taste.

For taste, my initial reaction is a sweet flavor and a little minty (actually reminds me of peppermint gas-x) , but then turns into a sour taste. Hidden in these flavors are chocolate and malty flavors and perhaps some toffee flavor.

Mouthfeel was thinner than i thought it would be, but i dont think it is bad. It is lightly carbonated but the sourness of the beer seems to make it feel more carbonated.

overall, not a bad beer but not a great beer too. It's definetly worth trying if you get the chance, but it probably wont be on your most favorite list.

Photo of nogoodreason
3.75/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is surprisingly good stuff.

Pours a smooth, deep black with a nice brown head. Slight ruby highlights show that it's somewhat thin.

The nose is mostly bittersweet chocolate, some cream and some light roasty notes. Not an overly impressive scent, somewhat generic.

The taste is much better. Simultaneously sweet and creamy, while strangely dry and chocolately. There's nutty, toffee aspect, and a pleasant cocoa powder finsish. It's a very easy drinking sweet stout, but whether it's worth the price for the little bottle is hard to say.

Photo of oracle
2.3/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

10 oz pour in a tumbler glass

beer arrived a mysterious deep dark black. The head was a little smaller and a little less dense than I expected with a stout. It left very little lacing to mark it's passage.

Smell was not very strong. Pretty typical stout aroma of sweetness, perhaps with a hint of coffee in the background.

Taste was very up front. Strong flavor of sweet lactose and malt at the beginning, but after that, the flavor went away. Bland and kind of boring with no finish at all.

Thin watery mouthfeel (in a stout!).

I found this beer to be not nearly as good as the other Hitachino beers I've tried and a little disappointing.

Photo of kmpitz2
3.05/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I've really started to enjoy the flavors in sweet and milk stouts, so I was relaly excited to see this on tap at Rich-O's. The beer poured a flat black color wtih a small head that falls to barely coat the beer. The nose was really weak, with only some light chocolate tones coming through. The flavor was not at all what I was expecting. This beer was really bland, lacking any of the creamy, sweet, marshmellowey characters I was hoping. None of the lacto character that I am familiar with came through. Boo on this beer. The feel was too thin, being a light moderate and I really did't think the drinability was all that good. I was not impressed with this offering.

Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.18/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

The beer poured black with a ruby highlight. The head was tan and fell back like a rock but managed to take a swipe at the glass.

The aroma was chocolate and coffee with some caramel and some sweetness.

The flavor was acidic with little sweetness. The primary flavors were chocolate and slight coffee. Behind that was a definite yet slight lactic sourness (perhaps the reason for the lacto on the label as opposed to lactose which would be sweet). The flavor also had a milk like quality and a flavor of cottage cheese.

The finish was lactic with cottage cheese flavors lasting way to long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and the beer nearly flat.

11.2 ounce bottle. Skip it. It wasn't sweet and it wasn't very interesting. It also was overpriced at $4 per bottle.

Photo of JISurfer
3.53/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I must have gotten a good bottle, cause this was pretty decent. Had a nice deep dark color, with a frothy tan head. The head lasted a little bit, then died out to a laceing. Smell was of lactose and roasted malts. Taste was similar, but a little more with a chocolate hint in it. I thought it was pretty good. Not as good as Mackeson's Triple Stout, but still pretty good.

Photo of dauss
2.1/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 1.5

Presentation: squatty 33cl bottle. No best before date noted, but they do have one of the most detailed ingredient list on a beer bottle ever, but no mention of hops.

Brewed with pale, crystal, caramel malt and authentic Lactose(milk sugar, 10% of grain bill) which is added about 10 min before end of boil.

Appearance ? Poured a pitch black color. Small head formed with a fairly strong pour, but dissapated fairly quickly.

Smell ? There really isn't that much in the smell. Had some sort of weird funky staleness, sourness, and a very faint roasted malt smell.

Taste ? This beer definitely has some tang, and notin a good way. Bad sourness ever present during the entire taste. It overpowered the malt and any sort of sweetness it was suppose to have. Hop bitterness comes out near the end and finishes with a coffee-like flavor.

Mouthfeel ? I thought the body was good and so was the mouthfeel, but the flavor was pretty gross.

Drinkability ? nasty sourness makes this a nasty beer. Could be a bad bottle.

Photo of Sixpoint
3.95/5  rDev +30.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I don't know why this beer had such unfavorable reviews. Perhaps it is because sweet stout is one of the most unpopular categories on this site...

Anyway, I had this beer on tap at (where else?) Spuyten Duyvil. The beer poured a deep brown, definitely not black... looked more like a robust porter.

Exept it did not smell like one! Definitely dominated by roasted barley and chocolate malts, although some crystals were peeping through as well. Hop aroma was basically nonexistent, this one was all sugar.

The taste was good. The balance was definitely not from the hop flavor, but rather the sweetness was balanced by the roasted malt character.

The beer was medium to full-bodied, and had a nice mouthfeel.

Overall, pretty drinkable considering I don't care for the style that much.

Photo of Sixpack595
3.5/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nearly opaque black with a very small amount of head. The thin tan ring of remaining head leaves a little bit of lacing as it goes. Aroma is sour with a touch of chocolaty sweetness. Flavor is much the same with the chocolte taking the fore and a very slight bit of bitterness sneaking in. Easy drinking, but the lactose flavor gets old.

Photo of winomark
2.5/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Pours a pitch black with an enormous light tan head. Some deep red/mahogany hues. Dark malt aromas and some sweet, milky tones noticable. Somewhat sour nose. Sour, metallic flavors upfront. Sour and bitter throughout. Dry, bitter finish. Light mouthfeel. Lingering, quite bitter finish. Don't like this one. Glad to try it, but won't try again. Not my style.

Photo of meathookjones
2.1/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

This poured out with way too much head. It took quite a while to get the whole bottle in a 16oz glass. The body was black with a huge light tan head that dies fairly quickly and left some scattered lace in its wake. A bit of cream in the nose and an odd sourness, overall a weak unappealing smell. Taste is similar to soda with an off sour taste and a cream presence as well. Body was about medium with no notable qualities. Crap for drinkability considering the offness of the smell and taste. Not something I wish to try again and a huge let down considering how excellent their celebration ale is.

Photo of SixpointJMH
3.85/5  rDev +27.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a dark brown to near black colour with a moderate but somewhat sticky tan head. the smell is of chocolate, caramel and malt. sweet and sugary but not unbearable. the flavour is most definitely sweet and chocolate here, but it is nicely balanced and cut down upon by the malt. caramel intermingles as well. this one is very smooth and very creamy. it's a bit thin of a stout, but it's a diferent kind of stout so it's to be expected a bit. could i drink this in large quantities as a session brew? no way. is it a nice dessert brew or one to sample from time to time? most definitely. enjoyable in small doses, i'd say.

Photo of clvand0
2.73/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Had this one in a 25oz bottle. Poured a dark brown color with a small head that died off pretty quickly. The aroma has caramel malts and a slight bit of chocolate and maybe even a little sourness (?) The flavor wasn't what I was expecting. Sour milk mostly and some roasted malts made up the most part. This wasn't a "bad" beer, but I really didn't enjoy it very much.

Photo of silenius
2.42/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Poured from a 24.6 oz. bomber with a nice shape. It flares a little at the bottom and reminds me of some sake bottles a bit.

Advertised on the label as an ALE brewed with lactose.

Pours a very dark mahogany-like brown with yellow and orange highlights at the edges. The head is very coarse and dies in a matter of a few seconds. Right color, bad head.

Smell is of oxidized coffee with creamer, soy, wood charcoal, chocolate, and red fruits. Complex, but a bit off-putting by the oxidized coffee smell.

Taste is very red-fruit wine like with a hint of milk chocolate. If served flat, this might pass for a bad wine.

Very little carbonation makes the mouthfeel border on bad. The only redeemer is a slight coffee creamer like texture.

Drinkability is low. Too bad. I'd like to have a low alcohol beer in my regular rotation.

Photo of RoyalT
2.6/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Appearance – This one poured a dark brown in color with a low head that showed decent retention.

Smell – The darkish malts were rightly complimented with some good cocoa and a hint of milk.

Taste – Oh, where did the sour milk come from? It smells almost rancid and completely overpowered the malts, which fell apart at the tongue.

Mouthfeel – Light to medium-bodied and sour, but not in a good “oud bruin” kind of way.

Sinkability – I couldn't finish much of this bottle.

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 330ml (11.2 fluid ounce) squat Japanese stubby that looks just like the picture in the BA Database, the cheeky looking owl surrounded by the words ‘Lacto Sweet Stout’. Has a printed “SS.3.11” Code on the reverse label.

Appearance: Worcester sauce dark brown body when back lit, but it looks Jet black when on the desk. Big thick creamy light tan head forms easily and it settles to thin cap like head that retains a silky smooth surface. Decent carbonation, but it does loose its head eventually.

Nose: Caramel and roasted malts mixed with a sharp cutting sourness from the lactose.

Taste: Roasted malts set in a dry body; grainy raw feel in the middle balances the initial sourness. Tends to have a cutting Flemish red sourness in the back end that lingers with some caramel. Strangely different but mildly appealing.

Mouthfeel: Reasonable body aided by a stiff conditioning in the body of the beer. Sour feel and sweetness mix to give a decent feel in the mouth.

Drinkability: Average at best, without the lactose I can only imagine how awful and difficult this would be to drink, as it is, a bit of effort is required. A long sipper.

Overall: Not as sweet as I first expected. I have enjoyed all of the other Hitachino beers that I have imbibed to date, but this is the first one that I don’t really care for. It’s not that it is bad, or even revolting, but it is “different”. Worth a try, but only once mid you.

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
71 out of 100 based on 333 ratings.