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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) - Kiuchi Brewery

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)

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Ratings: 344
Reviews: 214
rAvg: 3.03
pDev: 21.12%
Wants: 5
Gots: 15 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: purplehops on 07-01-2002

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Photo of soultrain
1.36/5  rDev -55.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Poured into an Ommegang chalice.

A-Black beer, carbonation is as minimal as is the head, which is really just a ring around the glass. Hmmmm...
S-Black coffee, roasted coffee malts...smells very tannic....sour aroma, too....
T-I've heard good things about this beer, but I'm disappointed with it. There is a sourness, an unending sourness to the taste and aftertaste of this beer: this can't be intentional, can it? I've tried it about 6 months ago: sour city. Then I got this beer from a totally different geography, yet have the same results: wicked sour; too sour to drink. Like sour vinegar... a drain pour, (or, in my case, a porch pour...)
M-Bad. Tied in with the taste of course.... and too thin for a stout, even a lacto milk stout IMHO...
D-This beer was a bad experience for me. Undrinkable.

CRUX: Obviously this isn't the same beer others have raved about...great bottle label graphics, though...

Photo of soulgrowl
2.71/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Cola-black, nearly opaque with mahogany highlights. Head is initially big and poofy with a rich, nougat-y brown color. Retention is mediocre.

Smell: Chocolate chips; sharp, milky, cheesy, lactic acid sourness; rubbery and medicinal phenols. Odd oak-like woody overtones.

Taste: Puckering lactose, almost metallic mineral notes, floral and resiny hops, watered-down chocolate malts. Reminiscent of a chocolate phosphate. Tart, milky finish that develops a berry-like sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Not stout enough to really be called a stout, this is more in porter or even schwarzbier territory in terms of body. Light and thin with soda-like carbonation.

Drinkability: Let me just say that I have loved every Kiuchi Brewery beer I've tried to date; that's why I picked this to be my 150th review. But I must say, I am disappointed, and I cannot quite recommend this beer.

Photo of BDTyre
3.28/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Crazy Japanese bottle with a pseudo-anime Owl and loads of Japanese characters but "Lacto Sweet Stout" in clearly defined English.

"Brewed with pale, crystal, caramel malt and authentic Lactose (milk sugar, 10% of grain bill) which is added about 10 before end of boil. alcoholic content not in excess of 4% of volume" So 3.9% is just a guess? And I've never heard of a stout that was not brewed with darker malts. Regardless, this is a decent stout colour with an almost white, fluffy head.

This smells like a typical stout augmented by a milk sourness...almost like buttermilk was used instead of regular milk. Something just doesn't seem right.

The taste confirms this. Dark, roasted malts with that buttermilk sourness. I can't say any more than that...this maybe the first example of a buttermilk stout.

Mouthfeel is okay, typcial stout, but the strange, sour and somewhat astringent taste affects the drinkability. Not horrible, but what exactly is this? Sweet stout? No. Milk stout...only if you think of buttermilk as milk.

Photo of Zorro
3.06/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The pour gives me a dark brown colored beer with a momentary light brown head.

Smell is sweet with a bit of acid aroma from dark roasted malt. A little bit of chocolate and more of coffee but this really doesn't have that strong an odor.

Taste is sweet with the taste of milk in your mouth right off the bat. A bit of char flavor and chocolate are the next things I taste with some burned sugar in the after taste. Not bad but there is something here that is faintly like sour milk in the very last part of the after taste.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Not that bad a beer but not that great a beer either. An interesting beer that I just really can't see drinking again.

Photo of Suds
2.93/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I’ve wanted to try one of the Hitachino Nest beers for a long time, and finally decided to pick this one up.
It’s a dark, blackish-brown color with ruby highlights and a shallow, wispy head. The aroma is chocolate and lots of roasted barley. It’s got a sour, slightly acidic smell also. The taste is full and sweet, with a chocolate milk character. Some coffee and grain as well. It’s a little oily, and has pretty low carbonation. The sour acidity that was present in the smell really stands out in the taste. At first I wasn’t sure if it was intentional, or if there was some bacterial infection. By the end of the bottle I concluded that it was supposed to be there to balance the sweetness. Lactic acid to balance the lactose? Different, that’s for sure. Again, very little hops. This beer didn’t do much for me. To be honest, I was pretty disappointed.

Photo of BlueHammer
3.28/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer definitely requires an acquired taste. It was not especially suited to my normal beer taste, but I was curious so I went ahead and tried it. It was served to me in the bottle which I poured into the glass.

It has a sour milk smell. The smell could also be compared to that of sourdough bread. It pours a very dark, deep brown, completely opaque. The head dissapates quickly leaving some light lacing as it is drunk. The taste is very sour which can make it difficult to drink if you are not used to or don't particularly care for this taste. It is flat with no carbonation.

I think there are better beers of this particular style. This is one that is worth a taste but I doubt I will try it again.

Photo of DaPeculierDane
4.02/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Note: I am completely ignoring style in this review.

AP: Deep Mahogony body, thin and dissipating tan head.

A: Lambic like sourness. Lactic acid in the extreme. Roasted malts.

T: more lactic acid, roasted malts, coffee, milk, chocolate, lemon peals, lime zest, and wonderful lambic like acids.

MF: SOUR, SOUR, SOUR! Wonderfully sour. Blistering astringency. Thin body, much much too thin for any style but the wonderful sourness is so refreshing. If this beer was marketed as a black lambic it would be much more highly received.

D: Slightly above average.

As a “milk stout” this is the worst I have ever had, but as a beer I just love it. It has so many of the characteristics that I find charming and addicting in lambics, gauzes, and winter saisons. Absolutely unique and innovative.

Photo of OStrungT
4.02/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a very dark brown with a thin light brown head. The head fades quickle, leavinga good lacing.

This beer has a malty sweet aroma. I can desect a slight coffee smell. It has a little nutty presence also. Maybe just a hint of chocolate in there also.

This beer has a light coffee like taste. It has trace flavors of chocolate. It is also pretty sweet. It has a slight flavor of half and half. The kind from McDonalds when it is a little warm.

This beer is carbonated well. It has a creamy texture to it. It goes down smooth, leaving a creamy half and half like aftertaste.

This beer would probably be a good session beer. It is very low in alcohol, so that definately wouldnt be a problem. Also, the flavor is not offensive or overbearing. I think this beer is pretty good. The half and half flavor took a little while to get used to, but not I kind of like it.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.02/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

(Served in an American pint glass)

A- This beer has a opaque dark brown body with a tan head that is thick and creamy but sounds a bit like soda pop when pouring. The head settles to a thin layer after a bit.

S- The smell of dark roasted malt and grain has a very nutty almost hazelnut aroma to it. There is some earthiness to the roast and it is a light aroma.

T- This beer has a faint nutty flavor and instant coffee (but in a positive way) accent to the malt flavor. There is a strong milk flavor to the malt aswell. There is no real hop finish but a note of dry carbonic bite balances the malts.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a creamy texture that makes the mouthfeel more full. No astringency or alcohol warmth.

D- I would call this a Japanese stout. Its flavors remind me of the taste of traditional Japanese cuisine. Very soft subtle flavors yet complex and interesting at the same time. There are nuances that are good flavors but hard to describe. Nice beer that is subtle, yet mysteriously interesting.

Photo of TurdFurgison
3.23/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Tried a bottle at the Winking Lizard. I expected a sweet and maybe milk chocolaty stout. What I got was watery with burnt flavors. Overall I was underwhelmed.

Needs more flavor, more body, more more more. Yuck. At least it wasn't skunked.

Don't get it.

Photo of EPICAC
2.87/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance): This beer is very dark brown, nearing black. There is an evident haziness when pouring. A thick beige head that slowly dissipates tops the beer.

Smell: There's a slight sharpness, but most evident is a sweet aroma and some roasted coffee notes. The interplay of the sweetness and the roasted aromas creates an odd smell.

Taste: It's malty and sweet at the center of the palate. The sweetness fades into roasted bitterness, almost coffeeish at the end. There's an odd flavor here that I can't place. Bitterness from hops is hard to detect.

Mouthfeel: There is a tingle of carbonation up front, but otherwise the beer feels very thick, almost viscous.

Drinkability: This is a really heavy beer, it would be good for pairing with food, but on its own it's somewhat overpowering.

Overall: The sweetness is a little too much. There are roasted flavors, but rather than providing balance the milk sugars overpower them.

Photo of warriorsoul
3.31/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to fitzIPAtrick and growler for having this brew on hand.
Pours a pitch black with two full fingers of cocoa-colored head...very thin producing little lace.
Smell is decent...some dark chocolate, a touch of vanilla, and sweet malt in the mix, with some carbonation in the nose.
The taste is enjoyable enough...mild in flavor with mainly chocolate and a sweet vineous character finishing it off.
Mouthfeel is thin and the carbonation is high...either way, it is a decent offering with a bit too much carbonation to consume easily. It is a sipper and gets much better as it warms.
A nice warm up to the evening...

Photo of smcolw
2.6/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Very light head for a stout without any lace whatsoever. Accurate in the color (black with a beige head).

Am I imagining this? I smell soy sauce behind the traditional stout aromas (ie. salty and fishy). OK, I've smelled it five times at this point and I'm still detecting this, so I don't think I'm crazy.

The flavor is an improvement--the saltiness is present, but muted. Not much in terms of roasted flavors. The body is very thin for the style. This is like a beginner's stout for those who are not ready for the big boys from Ireland.

Photo of WesWes
3.69/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a deep, dark black color with a thick frothy brown head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is average. It has a weird black malt scent that is a bit tart smelling. There may be some chocolate malts in here as well. The taste is good. It has a tangy crystal and black malt flavor that is sweet with lactose, creamy on the finish. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This was an interesting take on a sweet stout. I liked the taste although it was a bit tangy instead of retaining a true stout -like flavor.

Photo of packetknife
3.04/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Very slighly burned black but not quite jet. Medium brown dense head that held. The smell was fantastic IMO with tons of coffee, milk, and brown sugar. It even faded and hit you again each sniff. Somewhat overly carbonated causing the taste to be a bit flighty. Definite milk and malt but it comes of as very artificial and not brewed. As if they had something overly malty and decided to add sugar and half-and-hald as an afterthought. Felt OK, actually quite good, but not very drinkable as inconsistent and generally weird as it is.

Photo of ChrisBowers
3.8/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I liked this beer a lot, but I think this is one of those love it or hate it beers without much middle ground. Poured with a huge amount of carbonation. Too much actually. Once that had disipated, sweet chocolaty aromas were present. Taste... lots of sweetness, chocolate, some caramel and malt. Not much hops. You can tell its a lacto stout, very candy-chocolate like. Mouthfeel was too carbonated, but not bad. A nice drinkable stout at 3.9% if you like a sweet stout. Price however is kinda prohibitive. I'd drink it again, but the cost would keep me away when there's other world class offerings out there at that price or less.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.58/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer sits in my glass a dark, almost black color, it shows a rich brown, clear color when held up to the light. The head is wispy and light brown at first, but once roused shows a frothy brown head. The aroma smells lightly of coffee, with notes of sweet chocolate, and a hint of astringent roasted grain. The beer is surprisingly dry up front, with a certain acidity to it that seems to be mainly contributed by the dark malts. This beer has notes of dark chocolate, a bit of lightly acidic espresso, and even a bit of milk chocolate. This beer has a certain fullness to it as it hits my tongue but all in all it is fairly light on the palate. This beer was not at all what I was expecting from a sweet stout, really only lightly sweet, but I probably like it better because of this.

Photo of dansteino
3.82/5  rDev +26.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Little more than Average. Dark, muddy brown. Very little head. Good lacing.

Smell: Pretty good. Caramel. Chocolate milk. Some ripe fruit. Some sour fruit (like a Flanders Red).

Taste: Different. Some chocolate. Lots of sweetness. Some sourness. A little too light and watery.

Interesting. Not bad. A little expensive. I would drink this again . . . especially if somebody else were buying.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.87/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Barely opaque (only because it's an overcast day) dark walnut with magnanimous red-amber highlights. The wheat toast brown head looks good right after the pour, but can't maintain its size or structure for long. I'm left looking at one finger of nearly featureless foam that has left the glass untouched in its hurry to depart.

Sweet Stout smells like a sweet stout, although not an especially good one. There's a modest degree of roastedness with some milk chocolate, but little else to keep my nose interested. A 'chocolate milk' sweetness is evident as well, thanks to the adjunct (lactose) that was used. No badness, just not much goodness.

The flavor is, in a word, odd. The beer is sweet, although not cloyingly so, with one of the leanest stout bodies that I've ever experienced. It's obvious that the sweetness comes from an outsider and not from the roasting of the grain. It's too artificial-tasting and seems a thing apart, completely separate from the rest of the flavor profile. There's also a sourness/acidity that is at least as prominent, if not more so, and is as annoying as the lactose.

I can also appreciate a very mild hop presence (Kent Goldings as it turns out) that I'm unable to enjoy because I find it impossible to filter out the rest of the flavor contributors. The unquestionably light mouthfeel, especially for a stout, makes a bid for medium thanks to the addition of the milk sugar.

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) is a peculiar beer to be sure. That peculiarity, rather than making it good or interesting, makes it not so good and not that interesting. The major culprit, I believe, is the addition of the lactose. It has more than enough other faults, but losing that artificial sweetness would at least clear the decks so that the malt, hops and yeast could be appreciated on their own merits.

Photo of Gusler
3.34/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer emerges from the 330ml brown bottle a soot black with a minimal frothy tan head that vanishes quickly leaving the lace thin and somewhat patchy. Nose has a modest roasted grain aroma, the acidity quite noticeable, caramel, some milk sweetness, with the start sweet and the grain profile light, the top is light to moderate in its feel. Finish is ferine in its acidity, the hops present but light, the aftertaste chalky and dry, a different beer for sure, cannot say it did much for me, but something different never hurts IMHO.

Photo of acrawf6
3.27/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a very interesting and comlex beer. Poured out as a very opaque beer, head was thick and tanned like a coke head. It had a sour smell that was also pretty present in the taste.

For taste, my initial reaction is a sweet flavor and a little minty (actually reminds me of peppermint gas-x) , but then turns into a sour taste. Hidden in these flavors are chocolate and malty flavors and perhaps some toffee flavor.

Mouthfeel was thinner than i thought it would be, but i dont think it is bad. It is lightly carbonated but the sourness of the beer seems to make it feel more carbonated.

overall, not a bad beer but not a great beer too. It's definetly worth trying if you get the chance, but it probably wont be on your most favorite list.

Photo of nogoodreason
3.71/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is surprisingly good stuff.

Pours a smooth, deep black with a nice brown head. Slight ruby highlights show that it's somewhat thin.

The nose is mostly bittersweet chocolate, some cream and some light roasty notes. Not an overly impressive scent, somewhat generic.

The taste is much better. Simultaneously sweet and creamy, while strangely dry and chocolately. There's nutty, toffee aspect, and a pleasant cocoa powder finsish. It's a very easy drinking sweet stout, but whether it's worth the price for the little bottle is hard to say.

Photo of oracle
2.34/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

10 oz pour in a tumbler glass

beer arrived a mysterious deep dark black. The head was a little smaller and a little less dense than I expected with a stout. It left very little lacing to mark it's passage.

Smell was not very strong. Pretty typical stout aroma of sweetness, perhaps with a hint of coffee in the background.

Taste was very up front. Strong flavor of sweet lactose and malt at the beginning, but after that, the flavor went away. Bland and kind of boring with no finish at all.

Thin watery mouthfeel (in a stout!).

I found this beer to be not nearly as good as the other Hitachino beers I've tried and a little disappointing.

Photo of kmpitz2
3.06/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I've really started to enjoy the flavors in sweet and milk stouts, so I was relaly excited to see this on tap at Rich-O's. The beer poured a flat black color wtih a small head that falls to barely coat the beer. The nose was really weak, with only some light chocolate tones coming through. The flavor was not at all what I was expecting. This beer was really bland, lacking any of the creamy, sweet, marshmellowey characters I was hoping. None of the lacto character that I am familiar with came through. Boo on this beer. The feel was too thin, being a light moderate and I really did't think the drinability was all that good. I was not impressed with this offering.

Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.22/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

The beer poured black with a ruby highlight. The head was tan and fell back like a rock but managed to take a swipe at the glass.

The aroma was chocolate and coffee with some caramel and some sweetness.

The flavor was acidic with little sweetness. The primary flavors were chocolate and slight coffee. Behind that was a definite yet slight lactic sourness (perhaps the reason for the lacto on the label as opposed to lactose which would be sweet). The flavor also had a milk like quality and a flavor of cottage cheese.

The finish was lactic with cottage cheese flavors lasting way to long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and the beer nearly flat.

11.2 ounce bottle. Skip it. It wasn't sweet and it wasn't very interesting. It also was overpriced at $4 per bottle.

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
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