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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

416 Ratings
THE BROS
89
very good

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Ratings: 416
Reviews: 263
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 10.34%
Wants: 24
Gots: 39 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002

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Ratings: 416 | Reviews: 263
Reviews by KFBR392:
Photo of KFBR392
3.34/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Best Before 3/2014

Appearance: Huge head on the pour which settled in at about a finger and a half. Dark color with some brown/amber tones where light is about to get through. Above average active carbonation in glass while drinking.

Smell: Big malt body jumps out right away. Sweet molasses and medium bodied fruits provide a strong body. Interesting background of oak and leafy greens which adds a well receipted layer of complexity.

Taste: Front of medium bodied dark fruits and brown sugar. That front sort of lingers into the body with some added malt tones but really falls off quickly. Back end is some semi sweet malt sugariness.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation is very light, lots of bright fruit and sweet tones hit the palate throughout.

Overall: Being that this bottle was quickly coming to being past date, the brew inside has probably fallen off significantly already. Aroma was approachable but taste certainly did not back up that nice front. Would certainly be open to revisiting with a fresher bottle.

More User Reviews:
Photo of EstebanH
5/5  rDev +29.2%

Had this for breakfast in high school one time... it got me through class and tasted great too.

Photo of oberon
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep rich brown with a fluffy off-at settles into a cramy top,a sweeter aroma that of caramel and sweet alcohol with a hint of phenolic spice.Flavors are pretty basic pretty sweet with some weizen banana and clove traits but it really doesnt jump out at ya an alcohol kick goes down with the finish.A nice creamy mouthfeel lends to its drinkability it went down quite easy for 7.3% alc.A solid but basic brew one I would buy again.

Photo of RoyalT
4.26/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – This Weizenbock is a slow poor. The head was typically hard to contain and would have taken 45 minutes to go down if I’d have had the patience to wait that long. The body was dark brown with some nice orange tints. I swirled and poured the last ounce or two out of the bottle so there was a lot of sediment in my glass.

Smell – The dark, bocky malts came out up front and I could pick up a bit of yeast, but that was about it. Even as it warmed I couldn’t get that full, complex aroma that I’ve come to enjoy from the style.

Taste – The Bock half of this is big, thick, and dark. There is a nice, sweetened molasses flavor that mixes well with the roasty toasty malt base. The yeast came across doughy and burnt.

The dark fruits, mostly dates, came out much better at the taste then they did (or, really, didn’t) at the smell. The sweet, fruity finish was very nice.

Mouthfeel – This one had a solid, weizeny carbonation that I really enjoyed. The heavy bock mouthfeel was a nice contrast to this. All in all, this medium-bodied mouth may not appeal to some but I liked it.

Drinkability – This WB is oh so good. It is a meal in itself and will get you through those 40 days of fasting just right (or the six hours between lunch and dinner).

Photo of JMD71
3.18/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Nice smooth head when poured. Nice solid brown color with vigorous carbonation. Looks tasty...

Aroma: Slightly wheaty aroma with alight alcohol notes. Mild caramel profile with yeasty side deteced in the German Weiss style. Fruity, raisiny?

Taste: Very sweet, caramel flavor. A bit too syrupy for me. Not as wheat-flavored as I'd like. No hop profile detected.

Mouthfeel: Very heavy & cloying. Does finish crisper than initally led to believe, but this is heavier than expected.

Drinkability: Not high on my drinkability scale. It is too sweet & cloying for me. I could drink a 1/2 pint, but any more becomes too much.

Comments: This was not my favorite. Enjoyable & interesting, but not in league with others in the style such as Aventinus. This is a lot heavier than expected which detracted from my enjoyment. Too sweet...

Photo of Jason
3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 500 ml tall brown Euro style bottle with a “best before end” freshness date on the back label.

Appearance: The head collapses quickly to a thin frail tan lace, rich deep brown that goes virtually black in colour.

Smell: Suggestions of sweet prune and caramelized raisins, vague solvent alcohol and spicy phenolics in the nose.

Taste: Certainly full bodied with a creamy mouth feel which forms after the wave a brash carbonation that runs through the mouth. With in the carbonation is all of the other sharp and bitter flavours and seem to make one pass over the taste buds including a small amount of hops and a big chop of clove. Sweet dark fruit scurries all over the palate with hints of date sugar and ripe prunes. Lots of maltiness in play here, mostly on the level of a smooth grain, husk with little astringency and that unique fermented wheat flavour are all present. Yeast on the back end with a powdery earthy character and the alcohol is persistent with a touch of warming prickly sharpness. Light on the phenolic with a trace medicinal taste, though one flavour that stands out the most is a long lasting clove that dulls half way through.

Notes: This is one big bad wheat beer, not bad but could be too big for some. Huge, effervescent and bursting all over with perplexing complexities.

Photo of merlin48
3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy dark chestnut body that is opaque until held to some light. Creamy, beige head is about two fingers tall and retains well, leaving some sheet lace on the glass. Aroma is somewhat restrained, with some initial lemony citrus and grassy notes. Ripe banana becomes dominant after the final pour, with the yeast swirled in. Some clove and white pepper are also noted. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, with weizen effervesence. Body seems to become lighter toward the middle and finish. Taste has prominent dark fruits(figs and raisins), earthy yeast and hop bitterness, wheat wafer, understated bock maltiness notes of caramel and toffee, and banana and clove weizen notes after the yeast is swirled in. Alcohol is generally concealed, but noticeable. Taste is much better near room temperature, with the yeast swirled in. Pleasantly drinkable, and well constructed. Goes well with pretzels as an afterwork snack.

Photo of badbeer
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The last time I had this I was in Germany, looked forward to trying it again and reviewing for the first time.

Very dark ruby red and brownish in color. Caramel, plum, burnt sugar came through in the nose. Taste was much of the same, but more noticeable. Hints of banana and clove hidden in there as well. High carbonation with a full body to back it up. Not available near me, but a solid choice when I have the chance.

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark brown color with a large tan head. The aroma is heavy on the toffee, with some bubblegum, banana and clove notes mixed in. The flavor is very similar, the banana and bubblegum notes from the yeast really standing out. There is also some caramel and toffee from the malt and the beer is fairly sweet overall. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of magictrokini
3.36/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Brown pour with a full tan head. Caramel and sugar aroma mixed with yeast, nuts, and oats. Wheat, nuts, and brown sugar in the flavor. Some metal and alcohol. Lots of dried/lod dark fruits, prunes, figs, dates, blended with caramel. Almost candied. Good enough.

Photo of wattoclone
4.94/5  rDev +27.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Although Erdinger hefeweizen is easy to find in Pennsylvania, for some reason the weizenbock and dunkelweizen and extremely difficult to find. I had to drive deep into New Jersey to find it it. In the end it was well worth the trip. This is the darkest and richest weizenbock I have tried thus far. Aroma of caramelized burnt sugar, vanilla and over ripe bananas. Sweet dark fruit predominates the complex taste with hints of dates, rum, raisins, maple and ripe prunes. As is normal for Erdinger, it is bottle conditioned and very cloudy as a result. There is a very pleasant, lingering aftertaste of pecan pie. If this was more readily available I would certainly drink it on a regular basis.

Photo of ryanocerus
3.68/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very thick off-white head that took a long time to dissipate. Nice dark ruby color with a faint fruity odor. Good lacing after the first drink which had a decent malty sweet flavor that a weizen bock should have.

Photo of ADR
3.2/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy dull umber brown in look with a nice 1/2 inch tan head of two separate bubble sizes. Simple lace rings. Yeasty aroma, but with some sense of cardboard and lime. Lighter-bodied than I expected, a bit of molasses, milk chocolate, and fleshy fruit to the malt effort, a little bit of metallic vinegar tinges the end. Some off grainy notes. Hops are minimal, as expected. I tend to like Weizenbocks as among my favorite wheat beers, but this was weak in body and a bit suspect in some of its malt impression.

Photo of rastaman
3.22/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

when it comes to weizenbocks there is simply no better than aventinus, this doesn't come close, the alchol is too evident, and its a bit thin.

Photo of jbphoto88
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazed deep reddish brown with a coffee ice cream colored head. Bubbly and spongy it rapidly pops down to nothing.

Smell is roasted slightly caramelized grains with hints of fruit and wheat. I've got to say that it's a little on the weak side of things but still very pleasant.

The taste has similar caramelized notes as the smell. A dominating malt flavor over anything else. The slight fruit that was apparent in the nose all but disappears, with just a little poking through in the finish. As it warms a dark cherry taste comes through more and more.

A more than generous carbonated brew that sizzles your taste buds as you drink. I feel the almost over carbonation detracts from the flavors. Dry in the finish and all around slightly above average. Tasty but not something I would re-visit unless I was visiting the brewery in Germany and they were giving them out for free..

Photo of IntriqKen
3.92/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark amber with a 2 1/2 finger light tan head that collapses very quickly to a film of tan lace.
Aroma is exactly what it should be...dark, spicy wheat. Very spicy in the nose with a hint of brown sugar.
Flavors of the dark wheat....almost a burnt or toasted sugar so that it's not too sweet but the sweetness is there. Lots of peppery wheat spices throughout the tasting.
Mouthfeel is creamy yet a little thick and sticky after you swallow.
Aftertaste is sweet brown sugar malts and a hint of yeast.
Well done.

Photo of mintjellie
3.97/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Mahogany murk topped with a massive light tan head. Poor retention, no lacing. Deep yeasty aroma, like fermenting bread dough; it also presents notes of vanilla, clove, and banana. Tastes much the same as it smells, hearty bread with banana and spices. A hint of raisin. Banana cake. A slight tang in the finish. Medium-bodied with medium carbonation. Feels smooth and slightly thick, but not heavy. Simple but flavourful. Pleasant and approachable. Not a great weizenbock, but still a good one.

Photo of TheSixthRing
3.67/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Best before date of 10-2014

Appearance - Pours a murky, muddy and rusty colored brown with a 2 finger light tan head. Dissipates rather quickly, leaving a virtually flat, barren surface in it's wake. Needless to say, no lacing. Certainly not the most impressive looking of beers.

Smell - Subtly sweet and malty. Light notes of caramel and banana. Sugar.

Taste - Moderate flavors that come across as sweet and fruity; think banana topped with a few raisins and sprinkled with several pinches of sugar. Not too complex; pretty much starts and finishes the same.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with some creamy quality. Prickly carbonation at first quickly levels out to deliver a moderate, creamy drink.

Overall - Not quite on the level of Ayinger or Weihenstephaner's weizenbock, but it's not far off. Quite drinkable, though the flavor leaves a smidgen of complexity to be desired. To summarize, it's a good beer, but I'd rather pay that extra 50 cents to get that Ayinger or Weihenstephaner weizenbock, and before that I'd likely grab the 'dunkel' or 'hefe' weizens before I settled with the weizenbocks... but that's just me.

Photo of GilGarp
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

500 mL brown bottle dated 10/2009. Best before end 28.11.10.

Served cool into a pint glass to enjoy with the Germany world cup game today. Pikantus means 'spicy' or 'sharp' according to the checkout girl. Lets see if that's accurate.

Pikantus is a hazy dark cola brown color with short-lived off-white head.

Aroma is wonderful with dark fruits and subtle warming spices.

Flavor is also very nice. I've recently gotten into this style and brewed my own a month ago. What I like about it is that it's very big on flavor but easily drinkable even on a hot summer's day. Good malty backbone with sweet caramel and milk chocolate overlain with just enough bitterness to balance it out. Great banana and spice notes as well.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with ample carbonation.

Pikantus doesn't disappoint. It's not the best of the style (Aventinus and Vitus are better) but it's certainly worthy of the top ten.

Photo of cokes
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark rust- turning to dark sewage after the yeast pour- with a lasting milking khaki foam.
Nose full of mushy black bananas, dirt, raw grains and smoky cloves. More rustic than attractive, but still engaging.
Enters with a blanketing wetness of chocolate-covered banana puree. Turns increasingly tart, with surges of green apples thrown into the fray. Fades to dark fruit later. Raisins covered in burnt caramel. Muddier and doughier after the yeast pour. Banana bread all the way. Spicing is relatively limited, but adds pricks of black pepper and clove. Some sloppy vanilla appears as it warms.
Medium, cream-filled bodied initially, but dies to a sticky flatness.
Could be bolder all around. But a soild weissbock as it is.

Photo of Golden2wenty1
4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared with expatsteve over the Wisconsin-Penn State game.

Pour: dank, murky brown, nearly opaque under a few fingers of khaki foam that last for the entire pour with a bit of lacing.

Nose: earthy bock malts, dark fruits, lemony yeast, wheat funk.

Taste: earthy bock malts dominate, caramel grain notes, vinuous grape, light citrusy finish.

Feel: light and velvety, easy on the mouth.

Drinkability/Overall: not the most complex weizenbock I've ever had, but certainly the most drinkable. Goes well with pre-Noon college football Saturday drinking on a chilly Madison morning.

Photo of brewerburgundy
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

16.9oz bottle, Boulevard tulip, "10-2011" on the back label.

Ah, it's lovely to have new (to me) Weizenbock in my glass. This one moves from the darkest stone amber shades of yellowed brown to opaque red-brown and the head is immense. It's color is old book page and, composed of larger bubbles, it crackles audibly as it desists to a cap.

Moderately sweet nose with vivid date and prune aromas. Fruit and caramelized sugar aromas balance with a rough around the edges quality; not alcohol, not wholly wheat grain.

In flavor Pikantus is less refined; alcohol is a bitter bailiff accompanied by scraping carbonation. The plump fruit recedes, a woody hop comes in, and distinct wheat graininess hangs about. Weizen yeast is clearly in play, being phenolic.

As I said, the carbonation is immense on the pour and in the mouth, though it manifests itself not in the more normal fizzy way, but with a club soda like cleansing, exploding CO2. Unusual and not unpleasant, but seemingly not suited to allowing all the flavors to blossom.

Weizenbock is a diverse style and I like that a lot; something I think many BAs appreciate very much is variety. This one is darker but not too sweet, with a rich nose. I would like to see even more Weizenbocks around me.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.45/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Deep brown with ruby highlights and a creamy light tan head that rises out of the glass at first, but then cannot hold. Still, it does leave some lace. The aroma is of a rich malt that has a strong cocoa character and light toffee notes, soft dark fruit, some mild bubblegum and a gentle clove. It's surprisingly rich for a dunkle as they tend to offer less yeasty character... although this is a bock as well. The body is medium, and the mouthfeel starts with a zesty tingle on the tongue from a fine & effervescent carbonation. As it warms in the mouth and the CO2 is released, a soft creaminess takes over. The flavor is softly fruity, mildly tangy, and lightly chocolatey up-front, warming into more toffee-ish notes as it crosses the palate, and finishing with light phenolics and a clove-like spiciness. The alcohol is completely hidden. This is obviously balanced towards maltiness, but the alcohol and dark malts keep it dryer than a standard weizen. Exceptionally well done and highly drinkable.

Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.88/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance -- Pikantus pours a dark, dark russet-brown into my .5-liter weizen glass. As is my preference with wheat beers, I swirled the residual yeast into the glass; the beer was already pretty opaque, though. A nice weizen pour yields a three-finger, khaki/cream-colored head that fades relatively quickly into a pleasant little cap for the remainder of drinking. Lacing is minimal.

Smell -- Sweet, dried fruits dominate the nose, but they're more than matched by a potent alcohol aroma. Yeasty and wheaty smells are obviously there, along with a hint of roastiness, but the alcohol really stands out.

Taste -- This reminds me of a marginally lighter-bodied, not-quite-as-cohesive version of Aventinus (the closest possible point of reference)...but with a powerful alcoholic punch. Even as the glass warms, the alcohol retains equal prominence with the dried-fruit flavors, and it nearly overpowers the toasted German malt. The wheaty "twang" I expect is completely lost in the alcohol. Interesting, given that this beer's ABV is lower than that of Aventinus.

Mouthfeel -- Like a heavier dunkelweizen; not as "creamy" as Aventinus. Carbonation is crisp and prickly, which works to great effect with the dried-fruit flavors. I feel like the alcohol thins out the perceived mouthfeel, though.

Drinkability -- Pretty good, although you really notice the alcohol from the first sip. This is a heavy wheat beer, so it's rather filling (but still refreshing, especially when paired with the pork-and-prosciutto meal I enjoyed with it). All told, I think this is a good example of the style, but I have a feeling it would benefit significantly from extended aging. To me, even Aventinus gets better with extra time for the flavors to coalesce and the alcohol to cool down.

I hope to review this beer again once I've cellared a bottle or two for a while.

Photo of Fatehunter
3.94/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a big tan head on a cloudy brown body.
The aroma was all barnyard and hay. Wonderful.
The taste was semi-sweet malt but mellowed nicely by a mild bitterness.
The texture was fairly crisp but with a good softness to it with low carbonation.
Overall, a wonderful beer.

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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
87 out of 100 based on 416 ratings.