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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

356 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 356
Reviews: 252
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 10.36%


Brewed by:
Erdinger Weissbräu visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002)
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bobhits

Kentucky

2.28/5  rDev -40.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a Stone Imperial Pint glass. Pours a dark reddish, cloudy body with a talk white/tan head. No lacing to speak of.

Fruity twang that I can’t place, some citrus berries and a lot yeast and dark sweet malts.

The flavor here is intense and extremely sweet. A lot of sugar sweetness, caramel, dark fruits. A touch of a hop bite, just adding a hint of spice and a lot of yeast is in play here.

Well carbonated which is a touch surprising given the 7.3%. I’m not thrilled about this one. I like less carbonation with this much sweetness.

This isn’t for me. Too fruity and sweet and too much yeast to top it off. I don’t know the style well to compare to that, but this doing it for me. There is still a lot of flavor here so it is possible if sweeter beers are your thing that this one might work well. With all German beers it is possible that this is just not fresh enough.

Serving type: bottle

10-29-2011 03:22:10 | More by bobhits
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Bighuge

Minnesota

2.4/5  rDev -37.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Muddy brown appearance. A somewhat airy, but big, light brown head sits on top. The nose consists of bready yeastiness, chocolate, acetic sourness, and a little ethanol. The prime flavor characteristics I get in this one are phenolic and medicinal. Obviously, not what I was looking for. There are some subtle dark malt nuances and a little ethanol sting. But not a lot else going on. The mouthfeel is too gaseous. Makes drinking all the less pleasurable. This is a subpar weizenbock.

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2003 21:01:57 | More by Bighuge
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JackTheRipper

Pennsylvania

2.58/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A: Opaque medium brown color, sort of like a cup of coffee. Initially had a big fluffy tan head that disappeared rather quickly to a scant layer of foam.

S: When cold, this beer has no character, after the temp warms up a bit, a spicy, raisin like smell, with some smells of fresh bread and a toasty malt smell.

T: Dark wheat taste. Some maltiness, but not much else. Not a whole lot of complexity.

M: Almost flat. I may have gotten a bad bottle, but there was very little carbonation here. Alcohol is nicely warming, and fairly well masked for the stated ABV%.

D&N: I'm going to have to give this one a try next year, just to see if maybe I got hold of a bad bottle, cause as it stands, this beer has nothing to impress me.

Serving type: bottle

05-17-2004 02:03:58 | More by JackTheRipper
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SmashPants

Australia

2.83/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle: standard 500mL brown bottle, standard German wheat beer macro label.

Appearance: dark amber-brown in colour with a fluffy tan head that drops to one-finger with good retention and lacing.

Aroma: quite a pungent aroma, plenty of yeast, some dark fruits and spices.

Taste: a very interesting combination of flavours - tastes kind of like a strong banana abd clove wheat beer with chocolate and brown sugar poured on top. Definitely not my thing.

Aftertaste: aftertaste is similar with a slight hop bitterness along for the ride.

Mouth feel: a heavy body with moderate fine carbonation. Seems well considered for the style.

Overall: considering some of the great reviews I have heard about this beer I am certain that I am not yet used to this style, but it tastes to me like a thick, strong wheat beer with chocolate and caramel syrup poured into it. Add to that a price tag of AU$70 a case of 12 x 500mL, and this is a no go for me.

Serving type: bottle

02-03-2013 09:58:39 | More by SmashPants
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Augustiner719

New York

2.85/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 500ml bottle purchased in Munich Germany into an official erdinger weizen glass.

Pours a very dark and cloudy deep chestnut color with s light tan head that has micro bubbles and a shaving cream like consistency. Really pretty red highlights in the beer. The darkest weizenbocks I have had so far. The aroma has a tinge of banana fosters to it. Really yeasty and shows the booze too much for me. Citrus spike come on the back end. The flavor is not stylistically what I was looking for. Alcohol esters with unfermented sugary malts. Not really what I am enjoying. The mouthfeel finishes dry and it's got good carbonation. Really not stylistically in the realm of other German weizenbocks. Overall it's nothing special and really disappointed me. I have been impressed with erdinger brews but not this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-04-2010 22:38:30 | More by Augustiner719
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theopholis

California

2.88/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - Poured a dark brown/black; similar to coca cola. Including the short-lived, tan head. No lacing. Has deep ruby highlights when held up to the light.

Smell is very subdued. A hint of caramel and malt sweetness. Not much else.

Taste - Not bad, not great. Taste like a wheaty bock (gee, what a surprise.). As the beer warms up these flavors became more pronounced. An odd, papery, astringent taste at the back end.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Quite dry. Highly carbonated start.

Drinkability - Not great, but acceptable. May change my mind as it warms. Was served quite cold.

Edit: Al-right, it improved as it warmed, so I'm bumping the smell and taste scores.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2009 00:05:46 | More by theopholis
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beerguy101

California

2.9/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark brown color. Large foamy head. Aroma is roasted malts and chocolate. This is the darkest, most opaque Weizen Bocks I've seen. Full bodied. Malty, slightly nutty. Chocolate and caramel malts. Seems a little less complex than most Weizen bocks. Not very spicy. Very smooth flavor. Alcohol bite is fairly noticeable. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean and smooth. Aftertaste is slightly sweet, with a noticeable alcohol finish. Not their best effort.

Serving type: bottle

08-13-2003 03:43:57 | More by beerguy101
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GarthDanielson

North Carolina

2.98/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass (because that's all I have at this time), the beer pours a dark brown to black coloring, with brown highlights around the edges. No head present, but a slight film of bubbling. The beer has smells of caramel, but light due to increased carbonation. Also present are smells of sweet fruits (plums and raisins) and malt. The beer has an initial flavor of milk chocolate and earthy spices. The flavor is quickly followed up by a cherry flavor, with an overcarbonated feel to it. The beer is sharp and overcarbonated in mouth, and the beer does not have enough body to counterbalance this. The beer has a semisweet and smooth aftertaste, with a last second bite of the carbonated feel. The finish is a little lackluster, with an overall feel of sweet letdown. Not a beer that promotes continued drinking, in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2011 03:41:04 | More by GarthDanielson
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rickyleepotts

Arizona

3.05/5  rDev -21%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

I am not sure I have had a beer like this before. I mean, I have had a weizenbock before, but I don't remember what it tasted like. I know I have not had the Pikantus before. I actually recently finished a few bottles from Erdinger. When Total Wine dropped the price on their Oktoberfest, I grabbed a case. They make one of the best most flavorful Oktoberfests on the market. Hopefully that carries over to their weizenbock. Not sure what to expect here, as this is not a typical style for me. Should be fun!

In the Glass: It was easy to pour, and had a nice soda head on it. Not much lace to speak of, and I can imagine this beer is easy to drink. I have a feeling this will be a thin mouthfeel, too. Now that I think of it, I should have poured this in a boot. You know, DAS BOOT!

Nose: My first impressions are nice. It is malty and has a somewhat sweet aroma to it. I am getting almost plum notes on the nose, and while I am sure this will be a carbonated beer, almost want this to be on nitro and to be thin and room temperature before I drink it. The price is good, though. For a beer this high in alcohol, you should expect to spend $5.99 or more. As I smell this, I am just getting malty goodness. Let's see what it tastes like!

Flavor: I was right. It is very easy to drink. It's thin, and has a lot of carbonation on the outer layers. However, it is VERY easy to drink, and as it heats up, I can see this becoming almost chuggable. The beer is quite balanced, and you would never know it was 7.3 ABV. Those same sweet/plum notes I was getting on the nose carry over, but the malts are what I am tasting here. WhenI close my eyes, I can see them brewing this in Germany just drinking as they work. I mean, that is what makes a good brewmaster, right?

Mouthfeel: The front half of my palate is bored, but the back half is excited. The bubbles, when they hit the back of my tongue explode with flavor and as I swallow, the finish is smooth, crisp, and clean. This is not a speciality beer by any means, but a good example of a daily drinking Germany bock.

Aftertaste: There isn't much of an aftertaste. Oh, and the burp is pretty gross. If you can tolerate the bubbles, swish this around in your mouth a little bit. You will then open up some more flavor and it will provide you with an almost dry hoppy finish. The sweetness, when you swish it around a little, pretty much disappears. The more I drink this, the more the finish is starting to become bready; almost biscuitlike.

This isn't my favorite style, but it's good. I would totally order a pitcher of this if I was in Germany. Not sure when I will be in Germany, but maybe I will find an excuse to visit the brewery. I guarantee it tastes better there! Bottoms up, people.

Serving type: bottle

05-13-2013 21:56:18 | More by rickyleepotts
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goochpunch

Texas

3.13/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours out a muddy chocolate brown. In the first moments of the pour, the head was sweeling at a rapid rate, but by the time the entire bottle was emptied, there was not even a thin layer of bubbles coating the surface of the beer. Smells of cola, rye bread, prunes, and alcohol with some spicy hints. The flavors have the cola sweetness of a bock, and mild phenolics from the yeast. Does what it sets out to do, but it does not impress. Full mouthfeel, but it could be softer with all the bubbles. Drinkability? Eh.

Certainly, this is not the best weizenbock.

Serving type: bottle

05-29-2006 05:06:18 | More by goochpunch
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JMD71

Massachusetts

3.15/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Nice smooth head when poured. Nice solid brown color with vigorous carbonation. Looks tasty...

Aroma: Slightly wheaty aroma with alight alcohol notes. Mild caramel profile with yeasty side deteced in the German Weiss style. Fruity, raisiny?

Taste: Very sweet, caramel flavor. A bit too syrupy for me. Not as wheat-flavored as I'd like. No hop profile detected.

Mouthfeel: Very heavy & cloying. Does finish crisper than initally led to believe, but this is heavier than expected.

Drinkability: Not high on my drinkability scale. It is too sweet & cloying for me. I could drink a 1/2 pint, but any more becomes too much.

Comments: This was not my favorite. Enjoyable & interesting, but not in league with others in the style such as Aventinus. This is a lot heavier than expected which detracted from my enjoyment. Too sweet...

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2006 19:14:12 | More by JMD71
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ElCommodoro

Texas

3.15/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This is a pretty average weizenbock. Not my favourite. The smell is nothing short of amazing, but the taste is a little disappointing. It's pretty meh. Not a whole lot going on. It's on the thin side and has a nice robust malty palette, but doesn't have any oomph. It's sort of bland. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it might benefit from some hops. If it had some dark fruit flavour to it, that'd be a different story. Some estery alcohol bite would be nice too. it's just not there, though. There's really not much going on. I would never buy this again.

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2013 08:05:26 | More by ElCommodoro
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ADR

Pennsylvania

3.18/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy dull umber brown in look with a nice 1/2 inch tan head of two separate bubble sizes. Simple lace rings. Yeasty aroma, but with some sense of cardboard and lime. Lighter-bodied than I expected, a bit of molasses, milk chocolate, and fleshy fruit to the malt effort, a little bit of metallic vinegar tinges the end. Some off grainy notes. Hops are minimal, as expected. I tend to like Weizenbocks as among my favorite wheat beers, but this was weak in body and a bit suspect in some of its malt impression.

Serving type: bottle

06-23-2003 11:12:57 | More by ADR
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cracgor

Texas

3.18/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with a thin tan head. Smells sweet and sugar cane like..with a burnt background. Tastes a lot more bland than it smells. It has a good base of dark roasted malts to it, but lacks the complexity of some of it's peers. It does have some ester quality, but overall it comes out washed out. Has a fine mouthfeel. I've liked this style in the past, this one just seems a little weak for what I've been hoping for.

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2007 00:57:26 | More by cracgor
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rastaman

United Kingdom (England)

3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

when it comes to weizenbocks there is simply no better than aventinus, this doesn't come close, the alchol is too evident, and its a bit thin.

Serving type: bottle

04-05-2002 18:27:12 | More by rastaman
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mmmbeer

Massachusetts

3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Half-liter German bottle, conditioned, with 12-2007 on the back label. The beer is a yeast-laden mahogany, with lots of carbonation and four fingers of loose, tan head that snaps, crackles and pops, eventually reducing to nothing and imparting no lace. Sweet, vinous and grapey/cidery in the nose, with mild banana, some grassiness, and a touch of alcohol - old and not to style, but not that bad. Similar on the palate, with touches of wheat and dark malts, some esters, and just a hint of oxidation. The light and tingly body thickens slowly and has very little finish. Definitely not a typical weizenbock, but it doesn't taste that bad considering it's past the freshness date and lightly oxidized.

Serving type: bottle

04-15-2008 22:31:54 | More by mmmbeer
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esv

Virginia

3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

a) Unbelievably carbonated. 6 inches of thick head in an imperial pint. Slowly collapses, leaving a billowy top. Dark, handsome brown. Tan head.

s) Sweet and malty. Maybe some fruit/bananas but not much.

t) Sweet, maybe a little sickeningly so. Raisins and cotton candy. A hint of medicinal bitterness.

m) Surprisingly light considering the flavor, abv and color. Medium carbonation. A little sticky.

o) Personally, I'm not a big fan but it may be true to style. I don't know it well.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2011 22:14:08 | More by esv
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HardTarget

Texas

3.23/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

1 pt. 9oz brown bottle, 01-2005 (assumed best by) date on back, mentions Reinheitsgebot and bottle fermented.
Aroma: Crisp apples, sweet bread, caramel, artificial grape, hint of banana.
Appearance: Deep dark brown with a huge active head slowly gathering into larger bubbles that pop and subside. The head actually looks angry, seething. The beer shows some haziness in the small part of my Weizen glass, but otherwise opaque.
Flavor: Overall, pretty mild. The artificial grape taste is detracting from an otherwise decent taste. Sweet, wheat malt comes through as well as a touch of fruit.
Mouthfeel: Light and sparkling. Body is a bit thin given the style, but the carbonation is nice. Pretty dry finish.
Overall Impression: Not bad, but a bit short of a Weizenbock for my money. No real “bock” elements that I could pick up on other than it is fairly sweet. As the beer warmed the artificial flavor faded and more subtle chocolate milk taste and a silkier mouthfeel appeared, but nothing to drastically change scores.
Glad I tried it, but I won’t crave it.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2004 02:36:28 | More by HardTarget
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JDV

Texas

3.25/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Almost fruity, malty, rich, wheaty nose. Some alcohol aroma present too as it warms up. Dark caramel chocolate color with looong lasting foamy off white head. Taste was malty, and bock like with a definite taste of wheatiness as well. An interesting beer of a style I'd like to try more of. Towards the end, I could taste the alcohol some as well, but overall a good beer that I'd get again occasionally.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2008 22:03:06 | More by JDV
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BDJake

Washington

3.25/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A- murky brown with a quickly disappearing, fizzy tan head

S- butterscotch, yeast, some caramel malts and some hop spice

T- butterscotch, toffee, chocolate and even a bit of cola- much like the appearance

M- chewiness is completely shrouded by the soda-like fizziness

D- after a few swigs, it seemed like a chore to finish

I'm not trying to trash this beer, as many seem to like it, but it was a tad bit fizzy for my tastes.

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2010 11:02:39 | More by BDJake
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ThirstyBird

Germany

3.28/5  rDev -15%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

16.9 oz. bottle dated 12-07
Pours slightly hazy brown with bright reddish highlights. 1 inch loose and course head falls away quickly to virtually no head at all.
Smells of yeast, sweet malt, a little spice.
Taste - Wheat, malt, some fruit, caramel, chocolate. A little clove flavor is present. Dry finish which also has some alcohol on it. Flavors are more mellow than I'm used to from Weizenbocks.
M/F Medium body. Carbonation is very lively. Bubbles are course which makes the beer less than smooth as well as gassy.
It's OK though the carbonation makes it less enjoyable. The flavors are rather nice though subtle. Will probably stick with Vitus and Aventinus as my favs.

Serving type: bottle

11-01-2008 21:10:28 | More by ThirstyBird
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KFBR392

Illinois

3.29/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Best Before 3/2014

Appearance: Huge head on the pour which settled in at about a finger and a half. Dark color with some brown/amber tones where light is about to get through. Above average active carbonation in glass while drinking.

Smell: Big malt body jumps out right away. Sweet molasses and medium bodied fruits provide a strong body. Interesting background of oak and leafy greens which adds a well receipted layer of complexity.

Taste: Front of medium bodied dark fruits and brown sugar. That front sort of lingers into the body with some added malt tones but really falls off quickly. Back end is some semi sweet malt sugariness.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation is very light, lots of bright fruit and sweet tones hit the palate throughout.

Overall: Being that this bottle was quickly coming to being past date, the brew inside has probably fallen off significantly already. Aroma was approachable but taste certainly did not back up that nice front. Would certainly be open to revisiting with a fresher bottle.

Serving type: bottle

02-21-2014 03:08:55 | More by KFBR392
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rodrot

North Carolina

3.3/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky, dark brown color with a huge head that took a while to subside. Aroma was malty and yeasty with just a hint of spice. Taste was malty and caramelly with a good bit of sweet, fruity flavors mixed in. I could just barely taste the clovey, banana flavors that the style is known for. I was sort of disappointed in that I was looking forward to the beer having a lot more of that spicy characteristic in the taste. Mouthfeel was medium bodied in the palate. Drinkability was pretty good and the beer went down fairly easy. Not a bad beer at all, but not anywhere close to Aventinus in complexity.

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2007 06:08:28 | More by rodrot
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flyingpig

United Kingdom (Scotland)

3.3/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Chocolatey brown to caramel like colour in the glass & forms an off-white head with tinges of brown in it & stays as a thick lacing throughout.

Not too strong. A bit of spice blended with some caramel & hints of banana. You can also smell a little alcohol mixed in with the wheat.

Sweet but not overly. The main flavour seems to be coming from a sort of roasted almonds taste & overall the drink is quite rich & malty. In parts it almost tastes like cola but there is also hints of toffee & caramel.

Smooth to begin with but has a little chewiness in the finish, it is rich & creamy throughout and has a fair bit of carbonation to boot. The alcohol is quite noticeable in this one though.

Not a bad tasting beer but I felt that the flavours were too light throughout & could have been more pronounced. The alcohol content was also quite noticeable.

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Serving type: bottle

10-01-2011 16:20:55 | More by flyingpig
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goodbyeohio

Oregon

3.33/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

bb 6/07

beer pours a grade b maple syrup color with some serious clarity deficiencies. the head is tan, comprised of bulbous yet tight-knit spheres, and overstays its welcome on the surface of the brew.

aroma is musty with stale berries and mushy dates. a bit of freshly spun caramel rounds out the unexpected tang. candied orange and buttered potato bread round out the strange.. and not totally unappealing aroma.

light body with perfect crispness serves to deliver a shocking jolt of metallic yeast and tangy wheat graininess before bringing on coffee-soaked raisins and egg nog spice essence. a bitterness lingers in the finish (another surprise) and reminds me of moldy tree bark. the previous reviewer noted more dark fruit and less banana.. well, i've decided i like my weizenbocks with banana. this is not the kind of wb i would choose to drink over an aventinus, etc.

subsequent sips provide a bit more cohesive, smoothed out flavor profile which i can surely appreciate (despite it not being my 'thing.') beyond the tang, i am hard pressed to pick up additional nuances save a bit of toffee and maybe the faintest air of charred banana peel. still, not the ban/clv bomb that i was hoping for. recommended, for variety, and i will probably never drink one again.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2007 22:22:49 | More by goodbyeohio
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