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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

406 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 406
Reviews: 260
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 10.34%
Wants: 21
Gots: 30 | FT: 0
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Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002

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Photo of roddwolff
4.15/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The first dark wheat beer i taste.

A: Very dark brown color, the foamy head is creamy with two fingers thick, some sediments at the bottom but the label says its ok;

S: Fruity, scents of wheat, blueberries and tamarind;

T: Roasted malt, toffee, prunes and hops;

M: Dry with some sweetness, mild carbonation and hides its high abv concentration;

D: Good to accompany strong meals, one of the best wheat beers i've tasted.

Photo of rtepiak
3.65/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pour is like a dopplebock. coca cola copper with a big head that fades quickly. nose is a little chocolatey... some raspberry tea as buckeyenation mentioned but very mild. toasty caramel. palate is a bit lost as to what the difference is supposed to be between a doppelbock and a weizenbock. its indistinguishable. no wheat character. not fruit from the wheat malt. a good beer as a doppelbock but not creamy... crisp and hard carbonation like like a doppelbock. some dark fruit of plum and black currant but a bit lost. would like to try this beside there doppelbock and see what the actual difference is.

Photo of losdizzel
3.76/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a very drinkable beer . because of the all natural bottle-fermentation there is some sediment left over . Kinda high ABV 7.3 !! Reminds me of a very good home brew ,as in tast.But as for a Germen beer a little different for me, a very good beer. Cant wait till Oktober fest to try out of draft . hopes this helps people

Photo of HalfFull
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From a 500 ml. bottle into a weizen glass, this beer pours quite dark for the style. A medium brown, even black in low light, and with dense ruby/muddled brown highlights. An inch of soapy tan head settles slowly, holding a cap throughout.

Nose of dark fruits and somewhat rich malts, with a yeast nose that is relatively subdued beneath clean caramel and light chocolate notes. Touch of alcohol is present but inconsequential.

Wheat and yeast are more evident in the flavor and join the caramel and chocolate from the nose. Decent lingering finish is pleasant and not too sweet, with a slightly spicy and nutty close as the beer warms. Becomes a bit viscous as the carbonation settles but never really detracts. Good drinkability as the sweetness doesn't overwhelm and the body and flavor keep things interesting.

Photo of Jwale73
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1pint, 9fl. oz. bottle served in a weizen glass. 10-2009 indicated on the label. Pour was all head - tan in color and slowly cascading as it gradually revealed a murky prune-colored liquid with light highlights around the base of the glass. Head retention is quite good once it reaches a 1.5 inches. Some lacing, but not much in terms of adherence. Nose was light and sweet - dark fruits (plum, raisins, prunes) and perhaps some brown sugar and molasses. Taste follows nose; however, a slightly vinous quality comes out in the mix. Mouthfeel is light-bodied and mildly carbonated with a pleasant clean finish. Delicious and light with a well-hidden abv, while still being quite sweet and flavorful. Can't beat this at $2.99 a bottle either.

Photo of illidurit
3.63/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish mahogany color with a large fluffy tan head. Nice sheets of lacing. Aroma is dark bready with cinnamon and some Belgian-like esters. A little bit of metallic aroma too. This is a very malty weizenbock without much ester character in the flavor. Dark breads, a hint of vanilla, very light banana pith, a little spiciness. Definitely not as full-flavored or full-bodied as the top examples of the style, but it's still decent. Body is just a tiny bit watery although on some sips it seems creamier. Pretty drinkable.

Photo of KI9A
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Super dark, frothy head, falls into light lace.

S: Cloves, bubblegum.

T: Above, plus dark fruit. Sharp metallic aftertaste. malty as hell.

M: Somewhat heavy, sweetness lingers. Not nearly as complex as Aventinus.

D: Might be wrong time of the year for me to have this, being a war, semmer evening. Will try again this fall.

Photo of laituegonflable
4.19/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I'm going to write this review using Proustian syntax:

Pours a very dark caramel colour, dark-brown really, with ochre head that foams up very nice and generous like, then, sizzling, sinks down to a one-finger thickness, producing lacing that, while slippery, is typical of the bock style; is it simply a bock thing, I wonder, taking in the fact that this beer is too dark really to make out cloud, but looks pretty clear; overall, a beer that is decent.

Nose is nice and spicy, with a nice hit of black pepper and tabasco, elements of a good shiraz as well, with some fruity hints putting me in mind of red grape skin, berries, and maybe figs as well, while a slightly chocolatey malt creeps in, making this pleasant, and complex.

Taste is very chocolatey, with a rich cocoa flavour taking precedence on both the first touch and the finish; a good spice element to it as well, with hints of pepper, cumin, even chilli on the back, although less fruit than I maybe expected, with the taste being a lot more dry, with a lightly tart bent; the beer is predominantly spicy, underlain by that pleasant chocolate malt, while as for the mouthfeel, is has an excellent sizzle to it that complements that spice perfectly, although it seems to my mind a little thin; at least that would be my sole criticism - because the flavour is not a knockout punch, it doesn't matter too much - as well as a slight alcohol pang on the back which is the only hint that this is a slightly heavier beer although the pang, noticeable as it is, is not a rude jolt but rather more of a nudge.

The flavours being subdued is not really a detractor here because they're still complex, interesting and tempting me to explore them further; it also makes this surprisingly sessionable - pleasant and mild but interesting, I would say - that makes me enjoy the Pikantus ride immensely.

And then I fell into a daze and moaned for several hundred pages about a girl I loved.

Photo of DerBayer
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - A black tar kind colour with a slightly brownish head

S - Smells of cloves slightly acidic, dark fruits and citrus aromas over caramel malts

T - This is where this beer really falls short of other Weizenbock beers its too citrussy and spicey in taste almost pikant as the name implies when it should be fruity

M - Very refreshing good carbonation and nice full body

D - Very drinkable you dont realy feel the alcohol in this one

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.25/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark brown color with a huge, pillowy and large-bubbled tan head. Collapsing head fades in a couple of minutes, leaving some spotty lace on the glass. I love it when the freshness date is easy to read, clearly states 09 2009 on the back label.

Nose is chocolaty and malty with a little bit of banana aroma. Maybe a few light hints of bubblegum and brazil nuts escape the glass upon swirling.

Taste leans heavily on the chocolate maltiness with a surprising amount of sweet, cheap 5 cent Double Bubble gum flavor. Alcohol is easily detectable, even at the modest level of 7.3%. All the flavors come together well, and this is a fine weizenbock to sip or gulp. A pretty modest price tag, as I got it for less than four bucks. Aventinus, Vitus and Pikantus all are very different interpretations of a much under-represented style. They are all tasty in their own way...just different. I wish there were more of these around. I will definitely buy more of this when I can find it.

Photo of jbphoto88
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazed deep reddish brown with a coffee ice cream colored head. Bubbly and spongy it rapidly pops down to nothing.

Smell is roasted slightly caramelized grains with hints of fruit and wheat. I've got to say that it's a little on the weak side of things but still very pleasant.

The taste has similar caramelized notes as the smell. A dominating malt flavor over anything else. The slight fruit that was apparent in the nose all but disappears, with just a little poking through in the finish. As it warms a dark cherry taste comes through more and more.

A more than generous carbonated brew that sizzles your taste buds as you drink. I feel the almost over carbonation detracts from the flavors. Dry in the finish and all around slightly above average. Tasty but not something I would re-visit unless I was visiting the brewery in Germany and they were giving them out for free..

Photo of atis
3.94/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500 ml bootle from Germany

Pours dark brown with large off-white head that soon dissapears, the small rising carbonation bubbles create kind of prickly surface, no lacing. Aroma is very strong fruity esters, mostly wild berries, especially raspberries that are dominating mild malty smell.

Taste is a bit spicy sweet malt, lots of dark dried fruit, alos a little bit of astringency. Mouthfeel is smooth medium with average carbonation and very light alcohol warming.

Overall, an excellent beer. This is my first Weizenbock and I have to say I have had a very, very good first impression.

Photo of DoubleJ
3.4/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Hooray! I get to use the proper style of beer in my Eisenbahn Weizenbock glass for the first time. 500 ml bottle from Walnut Liquorette, on to the beer:

Big and bubbly is the head, and the bubbles are popping, and slowly going with it is the head. Good autumn amber brown color with hues of orange. The aroma is sweet...very malty, akin to a marzen. Sweet doughy bread...with a bit of yeast, some maple as well. Tastewise, it has quite a kick of flavor. A little monotone, and tastes more like a marzen plus bubblegum, though it's still a good flavor. Could be better overall though; the carbonation bubbles are too big, and pretty intense... not good for a strong beer, and it holds back the drinkability of the beer. Still, this is pretty good, and less expensive than Aventinus (for the budget conscious).

Photo of Wasatch
4.33/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1.9 pint
Best Before End: 10/2009

Poured into my Squatters true pint glass a very nice dark brown color, very nice two-finger plus foamy/creamy tan head, with a very nice thick coat of sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some slight chocolate/toffe notes, slightly fruity, some yeast notes as well. The taste is very nice, sweet, malty, slight yeast, some dark fruits, choco/toffee notes. Medium body, the ABV is hidden very well with this brew, very easy going down. Drinkable, this is a tasty one.

Photo of Rayek
3.89/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Cloudy cinnamon with a lumpy cream cap and active carbonation from tiny bubbles. Head retention is excellent, but my kingdom for a bit of lace. It acts like it might leave some behind, but then disappoints. Oh well, the rest of it looks good.

S: The best part of the beer. Chocolate-chip banana bread pretty much sums things up. There's a hint of clove in the background.

T: Quite tasty, but doesn't level up to the promise of the nose. A baker's chocolate sweetness starts things a bit too weak. A clove and lemon bitterness quickly comes along to help out. It makes up the majority of the beer's flavor. A banana bread flavor finally comes through in the finish. Ends tart and dry, with lingering clove and ripe banana flavors. Alcohol adds a mild warmth.

M: Medium body is grainy and has a nice prickly carbonation to it that is a nice fit for the style.

D: Easily the best of the three Erdinger beers I've had. My only complaint is that the taste doesn't live up to the nose. Warming helps things along, but this beer doesn't quite match up with the best of its style. Overall; however, I'm quite glad I picked it up.

Photo of TheSarge
3.46/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Okay, so I poured this into my Aventinus glass. Hopefully I don't desicrate my glass!

This brew looks very enticing. There is a massive amount of milk chocolate looking head, with great retention. The body is dark, murky, and caramel in color. There are ample amounts of carbonation present, hence this beer takes a little while to pour.

Pikantus smells more of cloves than banana. There are hints of bready malts.

A bit on the sharp and spicy side. Not really sweet as I had expected. There is only a slight hint of banana.

Feels oily and slick, with a boozy warmth in the end.

Overall a nice looking and smelling beer, but nothing I'd venture out for again. I lacks a bit taste wise.

Photo of nocheinsbitte
4.15/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

had this bier from a 1/2 litre bottle.

A: pours a nice dark brown color with a nice head and good lacing. Almost opaque; hazy like many hefeweizens. A good looking bier.
S: a very inviting aroma, mildly sweet, caramelish.
T: a little acidicy at the onset, but finished with a nice full hefe and bock taste. Rich in caramel flavors, a complex taste that is very pleasing. No real alcohol taste, even though the content is at 7.3%.
M: A full mouthfeel. Very pleasing.
D: I really enjoy this bier, I could have many of these on a cold damp day.

Overall, I love this bier. Much like the aventinus, but not quite as good. This is one enjoyable bier that will not disappoint. Prosit!

Photo of wl0307
4.07/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

BB 08/2009, served lightly chilled in a 500ml weizen glass.

A: dark brown hue with amber glows when seen against light, coming with a hyper carbonation and a thick and frothy light tan head that lasts very well.
S: creamy-nutty Munich malts and brown bread abound, not showing particularly clear banana-ish estery note as any weizen, but even with the "blockade" of the thick froth a light whiff of sour fruits (more like plums) still comes through to mix well with the lovely malty theme. As the froth retreats a bit, the fruitiness comes in abundance, full of overripe dark fruits (juicy plums) and hop resin-like sharpness - sometimes even reminiscent of some really rich and fruity English Premium Bitter! Only until the beer is half-consumed and has breathed in the air for a while would the slightly more assertive edge of fruit-esters manifest itself.
T: the lightly effervescent & fluffy swallow is fairly bitter in terms of dark malts and grassy hops, laced by key undertones of sweet dark chocolates, prune jam, (faint) sweetened boiled red-beans, (faint) banana-toffee, bitter ground root-herbs (with a faint trace of licorice), and rather mild estery notes like unripe mangoes. The finish is semi-chewy due to the good level of hops I believe, while powdery dark malts and yeastiness both stay low and mild. As the beer breathes for a good while, just like on the nose, a bit more fruit esters develop and mingle nicely with the malty theme.
M&D: the carbonation comes slightly too sharp upfront, but this is not a hurdle to the enjoyment as the body remains intact and moderate, while the flavour is well-integrated and charmingly light for a weizenbock. This is apparently on the opposite end of the spectrum from the famous Aventinus from Schneider & Sohn, that this is way less estery in flavour but shows a really decent, profound malt composition overall. A truly highly drinkable weizenbock in my book, esp. given that almost no trace of alc. is found throughout the drink!

Photo of daliandragon
4.03/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is not a style I have great experience with but it is the season for bocks so it at least somewhat fits. I've always had a soft spot for Erdinger ever since it was a the house beer at the only decent bar in Korea when I was marooned in that beerless land several years back.

A very impressive look starts with a dark milkshake color with a mountain of tight bubbles like the best hefes and dunkels. The nose is an alcoholic hefeweizen; banana and clove and roasted malt and caramel and a sliver of booze.

The taste was more mellow and blended than I expected, especially considering the abv. I get the obvious hefe tastes as well as unsweetened chocolate, some roasted tones, and a finishing dry bitterness. Overall, you get a smooth but medium texture that nicely matches the complexity of the banana and clove and contrasting dark malt bock flavors.

I found this a pleasant if not perfect brew that is well crafted and will be in my fridge again.

Photo of Brad007
4.2/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a medium amber color with a one-finger head into my pint glass.

Aroma is smoky and full of clove and faint banana in the nose. Alcohol shows through a bit as well.

Taste is smoky and full of raisin/caramel flavor upfront that sort of masks the clove/banana flavors of a typical hefe. Actually, it adds more depth to this beer.

Mouthfeel is full of caramel, wheat, raisin and clove flavors. They meld together in an interesting way that leaves quite a tasty aftertaste.

Not bad. Full of flavor and under 8% as well. It's an imperfect marriage of a bock and a hefeweizen but otherwise, it's still quite delicious. Pick it up.

Photo of biggred1
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark scarlet and turbid with tons of suspended yeast and a massive foamy sand colored head that leaves very little lace behind. Smells of dark fruit, raisins, dates, prunes..etc. Some spicy yeast and clove are present. Tastes similar to the smell with a dark fruity sweetness balanced by a dry yeasty quality and just enough hop bittering and warm alcohol in the finish. High carbonation adds to the drinkability. Good stuff.

Photo of popery
3.97/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer is growing on me. I'll have to pick up a few more. It's still a very rough style, though. There aren't a ton of easily available weizenbocks, but Aventinus and the relatively new Vitus cast a long shoadow over the style. The beer is a dark brown, slightly reddish with a dissipating beige head that leaves a little lacing. The nose is fruity with dark stone fruit combined with ripe bananas. The flavor is actually quite complex, but it isn't bright enough for me as a weizenbock. The feel starts almost excessively fizzy. My girlfriend called it soda-like, but the feel is more on the expensive, small batch end of soda. The taste just doesn't have the rich spiced fruit flavors of the best weizenbocks, but it's still a good beer.

Photo of Jeffo
3.54/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Got this at Bert's Bierhuis.

From a bottle into a Weizen glass.

APPEARANCE: Pours a very large 3+ finger thinner looking tan head. Head is fluffy and bubbly, is very persistent, but eventually completely disappears half way through and leaves no lacing. Colour is very deep chocolate or sepia brown and very opaque. Quite a bit of carbonation evident at the beginning, but that eventually mellows out.

SMELL: Medium strong scent of wheat malt, some caramel and toffee, with a touch of bananas in the background. A hint of dried fruit and a faint touch of spicy alcohol. Not bad.

TASTE: Wheat malt with caramel malt and toffee notes. A slight bit of banana and a healthy dose of spicy alcohol as well. The malty spicy-alcohol aftertaste is strong and long lasting. A bit of a bite at the end as well.

PALATE: Medium-thin body, goes down fine enough with a little alcohol bite at the very end. Carbonation is on the higher side of the spectrum.

OVERALL: Not bad at all, but not quite a memorable one. Enjoyable and drinkable enough. This was not as good as their Dunkel, but much better than their Helles. I'd definately have this again, but I wouldn't go out of my way to find it like I would the Dunkel.

Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.88/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance -- Pikantus pours a dark, dark russet-brown into my .5-liter weizen glass. As is my preference with wheat beers, I swirled the residual yeast into the glass; the beer was already pretty opaque, though. A nice weizen pour yields a three-finger, khaki/cream-colored head that fades relatively quickly into a pleasant little cap for the remainder of drinking. Lacing is minimal.

Smell -- Sweet, dried fruits dominate the nose, but they're more than matched by a potent alcohol aroma. Yeasty and wheaty smells are obviously there, along with a hint of roastiness, but the alcohol really stands out.

Taste -- This reminds me of a marginally lighter-bodied, not-quite-as-cohesive version of Aventinus (the closest possible point of reference)...but with a powerful alcoholic punch. Even as the glass warms, the alcohol retains equal prominence with the dried-fruit flavors, and it nearly overpowers the toasted German malt. The wheaty "twang" I expect is completely lost in the alcohol. Interesting, given that this beer's ABV is lower than that of Aventinus.

Mouthfeel -- Like a heavier dunkelweizen; not as "creamy" as Aventinus. Carbonation is crisp and prickly, which works to great effect with the dried-fruit flavors. I feel like the alcohol thins out the perceived mouthfeel, though.

Drinkability -- Pretty good, although you really notice the alcohol from the first sip. This is a heavy wheat beer, so it's rather filling (but still refreshing, especially when paired with the pork-and-prosciutto meal I enjoyed with it). All told, I think this is a good example of the style, but I have a feeling it would benefit significantly from extended aging. To me, even Aventinus gets better with extra time for the flavors to coalesce and the alcohol to cool down.

I hope to review this beer again once I've cellared a bottle or two for a while.

Photo of Reidrover
3.85/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle. hazy brown , with a huge tight ,bubbled light tan head. Sweetish aromas of malt, and a strained wheatiness,pretty subdued though. While indeed sweet, it has a rather intresting undertone that is semi-bitter from the malts presumably and this tempers the sweet.Wheat like ceral at the end of the taste. Creamy aspects even, little alcohol present but its nice. Liked the palate on this smooth,velvet and creamy at the end. Nice beer..much betterthan the other Erdinger wheat beers I had had.

Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
87 out of 100 based on 406 ratings.