Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

425 Ratings
THE BROS
89
very good

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Ratings: 425
Reviews: 268
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 10.36%
Wants: 25
Gots: 39 | FT: 0
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Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: Half Liter (1 Pint 0.9 fluid ounces) brown glass bottle with a gold colored main, and v-shaped, neck label. In between these a metallic gold strip professes “Mit Feiner Hefe In Der Flasche Gereift” in black lettering, which roughly translates as ‘bottle-conditioned’ in proper lingo me thinks. The main label lists the beer as “Erdinger Weissbräu Erdinger Pikantus”. Discretely listed as 7.3%, with a Best Before code of 11-2004 on the reverse label.

Appearance: Used an Erdinger Weissbräu Glass, a 0,5l Sahm that has an inverted bell top that curves away to a thinner concave base, the glass is just about the same height as the bottle. Very deep brown body, that is dark but clear. The head forms quickly into an off-white thick creamy cap. Lazy carbonation but solid conditioning.

Nose: Dark fruits, thick chewy prunes, raisins, currants and caramel. Chocolate wheats and some dark toffee.

Taste: Chewy and thick it immediately defines a presence. Dark malts exhibit a viscous bonfire toffee body that chews well. The head itself has a tasty caramel character, but the beer itself has a roasted caramel middle with a spicy finish. Soft and chewy, this is a lovely brew and one that drinks well. Dry spicy warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Soft, creamy and warming this is a real tasty brew to sink into the sofa with. The carbonation lends life whilst there is a spicy feel in the back end that tingles on the tongue.

Drinkability: The half-litre bottle did not last very long at all. The perfect balance of a thick chewy toffee caramel brew with that of a light “fleet of foot” Wheat brew. Very nice.

Overall: My third Erdinger of the evening and by far easily my biggest favorite of the trio. I have not had that many Weizenbocks, but I find this to be a very attractive, tasty, enticing beauty. I’ll give the Erdinger Hefe-Weizen, and Hefe-Weizen Dark, a miss, but I would certainly buy this one again. A damn tasty Erdinger Weissbräu and a cracking Weizenbock!!

Photo of Gagnonsux
3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first beer of the weizenbock variety, doesn't seem too different from a standard bock. I definently don't taste much of what I'd usually taste in a wheat beer. Appearance is a nice dark, almost cola color, with ample light brown head. Smell is a little weaker than I expected, but not bad. Nose is mostly of malt, mainly caramel and maybe a little raisin. Taste is very good, malty, but not overly so. The malts weren't as strongly caramel tasting as I'd expect in a bock. 7.3% alcohol is not evident at all. Finish may be just a little too abrupt. This is another fine beer from Germany, and thinking back I don't think I've ever had a German beer that I didn't like.

Photo of connecticutpoet
3.85/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A very nice dark brown brew that had a scent that reminded me of chocolate, roasted wheat, and cherries. The fruitiness was an unexpected twist.

It was a nice rich beer, slightly sweet, the light roasted taste lasting long into the finish. It wasn't bitter, and there was alcohol evident. The alcohol overtones reminded me more of a barleywine-type taste than a bock.

It was a little thicker than I like for the sweetness involved. A good drinking beer nonetheless.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.45/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer resembles strong, raspberry-infused iced tea. A huge amount of carbonation is streaming up the sides of my weizen glass; a very cool effect. The ecru head is super-sized (so much so that I had to be careful with the pour to keep it in the glass), soft and insubstantial, so it's doubtful that I'll be looking at much lace. Very little as it turns out.

The nose does not impress. It's primarily wheat malty with an undercurrent of sour fruit. Overripe green apples perhaps? The flavor isn't bad, but the mouthfeel is sorely lacking. It's way too thin in the mouth and is incredibly over-carbonated. It feels like sparkling water which doesn't give the flavor a chance to settle onto the taste buds much at all.

The mouthfeel improves just enough with warming to be considered average. The flavor follows the nose, more or less. Dark malt is paramount with sour dark fruit, earthy hops and spicy Belgian yeast. The finish is clean, dry and acidic.

Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus isn't that enjoyable. I don't have enough weizenbocks under my belt to know if it's a faithful representation of the style or not, but it probably isn't a beer that I'll return to.

Photo of koolk
3.45/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very muddled, cloudy brown, with a tan head that only slighly persists.

Aromas are faint at best. Let it warm up to encourage more goodness, but not much came to the party. Caramel, some white fruits and only a sniffle of spice.

Good darker fruit and malt flavours on the palate, with that wickedly good trade mark balanced feel and creaminess - a big reason as to why I love german beers. Not a great deal of length, but no alcohol either.

A lot of positives, but for a beer of 7% there is not enough flavour to warrant a higher score of its Erdinger 'brothers'.

Photo of JackTheRipper
2.6/5  rDev -32.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A: Opaque medium brown color, sort of like a cup of coffee. Initially had a big fluffy tan head that disappeared rather quickly to a scant layer of foam.

S: When cold, this beer has no character, after the temp warms up a bit, a spicy, raisin like smell, with some smells of fresh bread and a toasty malt smell.

T: Dark wheat taste. Some maltiness, but not much else. Not a whole lot of complexity.

M: Almost flat. I may have gotten a bad bottle, but there was very little carbonation here. Alcohol is nicely warming, and fairly well masked for the stated ABV%.

D&N: I'm going to have to give this one a try next year, just to see if maybe I got hold of a bad bottle, cause as it stands, this beer has nothing to impress me.

Photo of Mitchster
3.53/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours out to a clear, very-dark brown with deep-amber highlights when held to a light. Lots of firmly compacted dark-brown yeast sits at the bottom of the bottle. A light pour forms a very steady and firmly spongy tan head with excellent retention and minimal lacing. Aroma is simpler than expected....the immediate smell is of chocolate and dates with barely any cloves or bananas. Carbonation is medium-strong. Mouthfeel is foamy with a prickly finish and medium body. Taste begins with very distant browning bananas, a note of milk chocolate, amber malts with dates and figs, a metallic note, and then a lightly ruddy, semi-woody semi-dry finish. Moderate bitterness level, and hops are barely discernable in aroma or flavor. As it warms, it gives off a slight ketone aroma. Better enjoyed after it sits and the carbonation has dispersed. Alcohol is only perceptable as it warms and adds a peppery flourish. No perceptable off-flavors.

This beer is a mixed bag...it's not full-bodied nor smooth enough to be a great weizenbock, and it's too rich to be a good dunkelweizen. With lower carbonation, a heavier malt bill and a true Bavarian Weizen yeast strain, this would be a champ. As it is, however, it fails as a Weizen-bock in nearly all marks.

Photo of rkhaze
4.3/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy brown with a big, large bubbled tan head. Got rocky and creamy as it dissipated. Sweet, lightly roasted earthy malt, fruit and a yeasty nuance in the smell.
Big rich and tangy flavor. Toasted bready malt and an almost bubblegum fruitiness. Rich caramel and a hint of chocolate and clove. Finishes with a lightly tart yeast flavor. Nicely done.
Light to medium bodied with tingly carbonation and a rich full mouthfeel. Warms the belly but the alcohol is hidden very well. Tasty and highly drinkable.

Photo of kbub6f
4.2/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer's appearance is not that great: the head is huge, a grayish, light tan, and foamy, crusty. The beer is a dark, cloudy brown. Nose is a little better: soapy, sugary, spicy, a little strawberry? Ok. Here we go... sweet, fruity front shows ample alcohol. Dark caramel malt blooms in the middle. A little chocolate, thick and creamy. Finish is sweet, a little nutty with more fruit and alcohol. This is a very fruity, malty, thick bock. Despite the slow start, I really like it.

Photo of 57andcounting
3.91/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I am drinking this as I type. I didn't know it was 7.2 % when I opened it, so I expect it to catch up to me about half way through this review.
Pours a real nice dark tan head that calls. "Drink me, drink me." It sticks around until the end with a bit of lacing.
Smell is nothing to write home about. Alcohol and hops.
Where this beer stands out is in the taste and mouth feel. The flavor is full malt, carmel, chocolate, tar, alcohol, a light English porter. (In the bottle I am drinking there is a slight bit of metallic flavor at the end.) The nice part is it is not heavy.

Mouth feel is full but not thick.
A good drinkable dark beer for the type.
I happen to like many of the beers that Erdinger is putting out right now. They may not be the top choice in German brewers, but they are working on it.
You can introduce your Bud drinking buddies to this with out a problem, except; don’t let them drive after two.

Photo of Pegasus
4/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Murky mahogany color with a large cloud top head, which slowly fades to a thin layer. The lacing is quite thick, coating the glass in large broken patches. The carbonation is slight; there is quite a bit of sediment present.

Aroma: The aroma is dominated by sweet alcohol, bready malt, and clove notes. There are lesser notes of earth and dark fruit. Overall the aroma is quite complex, but understated.

Taste: Begins with caramel notes atop an earthy flavor, mingled with dark fruits and cloves. The middle of the taste is dominated by slightly tart malt flavors. Towards the finish, notes of vanilla, coffee, and sweet alcohol appear. Finishes with a mild but lingering hop bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Superbly smooth and creamy.

Drinkability: Simply excellent with a beguiling complexity, a rich and satisfying beer well suited to a dark, cold day.

Photo of Globetrotter
3.77/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly elongated brown half-liter bottle with an uninspired silver and black label featuring little more than lettering. Purity law applies, of course. Best before 6/30/04, I opened it on 2/16/04.

Murky, cloudy dark brown liquid with a hint of red floating around. The head is thin, mustering little more than a finger's worth and settling quickly to film and collar. There are some spots of lace, but not much at all. The nose is nice - mainly caramel, reasonably subdued but definitely present. The mouth is thick with sweetness and mildly carbonated. The taste is smooth as silk, with caramel tones accompanied by a hint of raisin. I was hoping for a bit of hops in the finish, but I'm still waiting. The aftertaste is pure sweet caramel. Certainly a pleasant beer expeirence.

Photo of NearerMyBeerToMe
3.61/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours with a dense, sticky-looking head of small, off-white bubbles that takes its time to go away. Frothiness subsides in a slightly clumpy fashion. Color of beer is an extremely murky (near-opaque) rosewood with chestnutty highlights. Not much cling, the lace dripping back smoothly to build up at the collar. Now the aroma... where exactly is it? Slightly buttery, vaguely grassy... no real nosefeel at all... ! At least it has some good tastes, mostly a sort of quenchy-caramel with candied fruits up front; developing into a apple cidery tartness (with a bit of pear?); and a warm jolt of spice (probably closest to clove). Some buttery hops and a vague herbal quality to finish it off; with warmth, bubblegum comes out in the aftertaste. A spikily carbonated mouthfeel is yet wet and quenching, with a slightly sticky, sour finish. Based on the mouthfeel alone, the drinkability gets pretty high marks; I had no idea this brew was 7.3 abv and it caught up to me pretty fast. This'll serve its purpose as a mid-spring/early fall refresher in workmanlike fashion, but don't ask too much of it.

Photo of Zorro
4.6/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark cloudy wheat beer, you can barely pass light through it.

Smells of malt, grain and bananas. There is a bit of floral smell here too.

Tastes mildly sweet and malty. I can taste banana, cloves, chocolate and a mild hops bite. This is a very complex beer.

Mouthfeel is excellent, thick and creamy without being too much.

Drinkability is excellent.

Photo of diablo14
3.51/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

considering i picked this up for not very much, i was pretty happy overall with this brew. dont know if id drink this on a regular basis as i can get better bocks than this for like price (weihenstephaner comes to mind) . nevertheless i was fairly satisfied with the beer.

great color, very dark brown but still had some panes of light sneaking through, with a voluminous creamy tan colored head which had some go. nose had the scent of alcohol, which surprisingly wasnt reflected in the taste (a good thing). hint of roasty characters and some forest fruits. the taste, while not as complex as id like, had good fruity notes, with a hint of chocolate, treacle and traces of burnt wood. just wasnt robust enuff on the tongue. the AV really creeps up on ya, but was very drinkable. not full bodied, but had a good feel going down with a subtle hoppiness that gave the sweetness in the beer an enjoyable finish.

erdinger are a brewery that while not making knockout beers, certainly give a good introduction to their various styles and are all very drinkable. i feel this makes up for a slight lack of complexity, but if i had to drink these all night, in no way would i complain. a good foot in the door.

Photo of feloniousmonk
4/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: murky, nearly opaque brownish color, more visible at foot's bottom, with a largely, puffy light tannish head.
Aroma: soft& creamy, some rustic tinges, a hint of earthiness and spices, whiffs of fruit, subtle, sophisticated.
Taste: full greeting on the tongue and lips, a solid, malty presence. Large-bodied, not lacking a thing in texture, most mouth-filling.
Dazzling, tantalizing, tingly, nicely hopped, fresh flavor remains distinct throughout...nutty, spicy, slightly fruity, though that aspect is none-too pronounced.
After some underwhelmed encounters with their other weizens, I was happy to be more satisfied with this Erdinger brew. A very nice dunkel, and an even better weizenbock! Drinkability is quite good, as I thirsted for more, when the bottle was drained!

Photo of hotstuff
4.14/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Yes, thedm, this beer went very, very well with our steak supper. Good choice! This was a very drinkable and enjoyable beer that was much to my liking. It poured a large sized frothy tan head with fine-small sized bubbles that was mostly diminishing. The body was opaque and carbonated with a dark brown hue. The nose was malty and sweet with a caramel and brown flavor that lasted from start to finish. It had a very, very smooth mouthfeel and it was light bodied. There was very sparse lacing with this beer.

Photo of Mustard
3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 16.9oz. brown bottle; "best before" warning printed on the rear label's left egde; no ABV %; purchased for $2.09 from the West LA Whole Foods on Barrington and National.

Appearance: Pours a dark, fudgy brown; three-fingered, beige-colored head; b-cup's worth of lacing; good to very good head retention.

Aroma: Quite substantially of spicy cloves, bananas and malt chocolate; faintly phenolic.

Taste: Slightly sweet -- as is usual for the style -- with a goodly large roasted malt profile; sizable notes of chocolate and bananas; hints of yeast and cloves as well; noticable tart fruit finish; full bodied with a creamy mouthfeel; a tad undercarbonated, in my opinion.

Notes: Can't hold Aventinus' jock -- but then who can? Certainly enjoyed this and will no doubt seek it out again one day.

Photo of cokes
3.9/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark rust- turning to dark sewage after the yeast pour- with a lasting milking khaki foam.
Nose full of mushy black bananas, dirt, raw grains and smoky cloves. More rustic than attractive, but still engaging.
Enters with a blanketing wetness of chocolate-covered banana puree. Turns increasingly tart, with surges of green apples thrown into the fray. Fades to dark fruit later. Raisins covered in burnt caramel. Muddier and doughier after the yeast pour. Banana bread all the way. Spicing is relatively limited, but adds pricks of black pepper and clove. Some sloppy vanilla appears as it warms.
Medium, cream-filled bodied initially, but dies to a sticky flatness.
Could be bolder all around. But a soild weissbock as it is.

Photo of beerguy101
2.88/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark brown color. Large foamy head. Aroma is roasted malts and chocolate. This is the darkest, most opaque Weizen Bocks I've seen. Full bodied. Malty, slightly nutty. Chocolate and caramel malts. Seems a little less complex than most Weizen bocks. Not very spicy. Very smooth flavor. Alcohol bite is fairly noticeable. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean and smooth. Aftertaste is slightly sweet, with a noticeable alcohol finish. Not their best effort.

Photo of ZAP
3.8/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is no Aventinus but this isn't bad...pours a nice deep brown with a redish tint...big ol frothy head of about an inch that back down to nearly nothing as you drink it....the nose is relatively tame, but interesting...oddly enough some sweet vanilla notes...bubble gum...some of the alcohol is evident...also roasted maltiness....and last but not least a nice caramel/toffee aroma..the flavor is solid but far from remarkable....sweet maltiness....almost sugar candy like...the alcohol adds a bit of sharpness to it to keep it from overwhelming you with sweetness....still pretty one dimensional with the maltiness...mouthfeel is sweet and sticky....drinkability is good...I'd drink more of these, but no more than one at a time due to the sweetness and alcohol combo..sweet, tasty, and it packs a punch....

Photo of mickeymac
4.25/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

It pours a straight brown with a bit white head that sticks around, leaving lace from top to bottom. The smell is a nice blend of spiciness, caramel/toffee, and a bit of ripe fruit. The complexity carries over to the flavor with all of the previously mentioned characteristics becoming even more pronounced, especially when the beer has warmed just a bit. A nice yeast bite is balanced by the smooth wheat attributes. The mouthfeel is creamy, making for a very nice overall drinking experience. Weizenbocks are quickly becoming one of my favorite styles.

Photo of bierman2000
4.5/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Excellent Weizenbock, one of the best in the world IMO it is very chocolatey with a nice roasted character. The alcohol i present throughout and the appearance is opaque dark brown, a nice roasty nose to this beer and an lingering malt presence makes this one worth seeking.

Photo of ADR
3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy dull umber brown in look with a nice 1/2 inch tan head of two separate bubble sizes. Simple lace rings. Yeasty aroma, but with some sense of cardboard and lime. Lighter-bodied than I expected, a bit of molasses, milk chocolate, and fleshy fruit to the malt effort, a little bit of metallic vinegar tinges the end. Some off grainy notes. Hops are minimal, as expected. I tend to like Weizenbocks as among my favorite wheat beers, but this was weak in body and a bit suspect in some of its malt impression.

Photo of Andreji
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An ok beer. Pours a dark brown tone with a cosiderable head of a white/tan tone. The smell precedes the taste, a very malty feeling quite light on hops making it rather simple, as the malt, strongly perceivable, only gives off scarce sweetness which combines lightly with any bitterness. Very, very little carbonation as well. An ok beer as i said before. Just o.k.

Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
87 out of 100 based on 425 ratings.