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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

387 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 387
Reviews: 256
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 10.08%
Wants: 20
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002)
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Photo of BretSikkink
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%

Attractive dark brown color, only the fewest highlights. Off white/tan head is very soft, doesn't leave much lace. Would be a solid 4 if it weren't for the head gushing out of the glass, way too carbonated.

Alright notes on the nose, looking at a mostly malty aroma, definitely took on the wheat character, and is backed up with fermented fruits, particularly the fusel alcohol. If my tone wasn't clear enough, it's not that great, nor that powerful.

The flavor is something of a let-down as well. I love the smooth creaminess and latent potence of the weizenbock, but this one doesn't hold up. Dark fruit is there, mildly spiced. Fine. Hops add a prickle of earth, while the yeast is pleasantly peppery. It just lacks that certain joie de vivre.

Because it's too carbonated. The lushness, the creaminess, can't be present if the flavors are being whisked right off the tongue. It's like drinking sparkling water; everything on the top side of the tongue is quickly replaced by that numb, mineral sensation.

The finish is a little dry, since most of the flavor is lifted away, and leaves a slight acidic aftertaste. I gave the beer four for drinkability because it's still a pleasant dark German-style wheat beer. The other characteristics I gave Pikantus a lower rating on because according to the other beers of this style that I have thoroughly enjoyed, this should be a fruitier, chewier experience, and I didn't get what I was hoping for. Not horrible, but I don't think I'll be returning.

BretSikkink, Apr 04, 2008
Photo of AlexLMS
3.93/5  rDev +1.6%

Appearance: cloudy with a coppery-brown colour. The head is huge, light brown, thick and rich with an excellent retention and lots of lacings.
Aroma: sweet toasted malts, wheat and a little of cloves.
Taste: red ripe fruits, caramel and toasted malts.
Mouthfeel: velvety, medium carbonation, high, but well disguised alcoholic strength (7.3% ABV) and a firm body.
Finish: starts with a sweet and fruity aftertaste that quickly turns to a dry finish.

Overall: best Erdinger in my opinion. Great combination of wheat, yeast and dark roasted malts. It may be too sweet for some drinkers, but overall great beer. Looking forward for another one.

AlexLMS, Mar 22, 2008
Photo of dsa7783
4.03/5  rDev +4.1%

1 Pint, 6 fl oz bottle copped singly from Super Saver in Somerville...
An aggressive pour yielded a deep, copper, ruby-red, dark amber color with an impressive foamy and frothy head that exhibited strong staying power and left a fair amount of lacing around the glass...
Deep,dark malty aroma rendolent of caramel, vanilla, and brown sugars...
Taste strongly complemented the smell, with a strong suggestion of syrup, molasses, honey, and sweet malts... Rich, deep, dehydrated fruit, figs, and prune taste with a load of character, and flavor...
Good, thick, creamy, rich mouthfeel with a good level of drinkability where the alcohol is hard to detect and the flavors aren't cloying...
Recommended...

dsa7783, Mar 21, 2008
Photo of KarlHungus
3.33/5  rDev -14%

This beer pours a dark brown color. The head is massive, billowy, and recedes slowly into no lacing. The aroma is of caramel, toffee, wheat, and alcohol. The taste is of caramel, and toffee with a hint of tangy wheat. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, and highly carbonated. Overall, this is a decent beer that I suppose I could drink again.

KarlHungus, Feb 15, 2008
Photo of JDV
3.25/5  rDev -16%

Almost fruity, malty, rich, wheaty nose. Some alcohol aroma present too as it warms up. Dark caramel chocolate color with looong lasting foamy off white head. Taste was malty, and bock like with a definite taste of wheatiness as well. An interesting beer of a style I'd like to try more of. Towards the end, I could taste the alcohol some as well, but overall a good beer that I'd get again occasionally.

JDV, Jan 31, 2008
Photo of NEhophead
3.45/5  rDev -10.9%

16.9 fl oz brown bottle; served in a flute.
Best before end: 01.2008.

Pours a heavily-clouded, dirty oak beneath a foamy and carbonation-filled, off-white head. A few traces of spotted lacing.

Yeast-filled, dry mustiness; slightly phenolic and quite spicy: clove, peppercorn. Touches of tangy, sour citrus fruit; creamy banana, rum.

Creamy caramel with a hint of milk chocolate. Notes of apple, orange, banana; a light sourness cut short by a burst of carbonation and a dry clove spice. Rather phenolic with notes of rum. A bland, not quite creamy caramel returns in the finish.

Medium bodied; extremely active and over-carbonated. Too yeast-filled, even for a Weizenbock.

A bland version of what usually is an exciting style. Dumbed down with yeast and carbonation; this bock's true flavors never have the chance to shine.

NEhophead, Jan 27, 2008
Photo of drperm
3.48/5  rDev -10.1%

I'm growing fond of Erdinger as a brewery.

A nice nose of raisins/grape juice. Very pleasant, considering how rich and dark it is in the glass.

The taste was also of raisins, and dates. Very pleasant, easy to drink, if somewhat rich and grapey throughout the experience.

I think this would be good one to pair with gamey dishes (such as duck!).

drperm, Jan 23, 2008
Photo of Pauly2X
4.22/5  rDev +9%

A- Two finger head faded and fizzled atop a dark reddish brown body.

S- Sweet malts followed by banana and light clove.

T- Light pleasant esters on the take with full bodied malt sweetness on the finish.

M- Full bodied yet light even to be refreshing.

D- Good thing its a full half liter bottle.

My first of this style, and I like it alot. See, you try something new and you get rewarded.

Pauly2X, Dec 23, 2007
Photo of basica
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%

This is my first ever weizenbock style beer; I bought the bottle from my dutch beer friend along with a whole lot of other goodies. This beer poured out with a huge head that tops the dark brown beer beneath; the head quickly dissipates leaving a thin layer of foam with some lacing. The smell was bock malty, nice huge malts as expected for a weizenbock some earthy tones and it almost smelled a little salty. The entry to the taste was fairly alcoholic and a little bitter with the malts hiding beneath. These malts then start showing up more and get stronger towards the finish. Clearly I could pick up some spices including cloves and the familiar banana notes evident in many German wheat beers. However the taste was not embracing what I was expecting after getting a really good nose. In particular the alcoholic and bitter part of it was something I prefer without. The after taste had some alcoholic notes in it with some dark fruits (dates?) and a nice slightly sweet bready maltiness which was there to last. The mouthfeel was between medium to full body with a nice creaminess to it and smoothness was there; just as like any of the Erdingers I had. The disappointment was in the taste entry. It was pretty strong though only going at 7.3 ABV; at times I was kind of drinking it like drinking a weizen. I have one more bottle of this; hope it would give me a better experience as I do have really high expectations of this style.. being a big fan of bocks and hefeweizens.

basica, Dec 20, 2007
Photo of brendan13
3.85/5  rDev -0.5%

A - 500ml bottle dated best before 04-2008. Pours a hazy dark brown colour with a solid 2 inch beige head that slowly falls away to a thin whisp. Fair amount of lacing is left.
S - Quite full on clove spice phenolic notes on top of a wheat malt & sweet dark fruit base.
T - All of the smell but better as well as some chocolate notes.
M - Medium bodied with a fairly sticky mouthfeel.
D - A good beer for sure but due to the 7.3%ABV it surely wouldn't be something you'd session.

brendan13, Nov 25, 2007
Photo of srandycarter
3.73/5  rDev -3.6%

Into the tulip

A - Between cola and black. Small head. Sudsy thin lacing.

S - I love this smell. DEEP smells of bready sweet malt.

T - Taste only deliver part of the aroma, plus there is an unusually bitter end.

M - Trojan. Gets the job done in a minimal way. Not a big mouthfeel beer. Things start big and disappoints a little.

D - It's a good beer, but there are better.

srandycarter, Nov 18, 2007
Photo of thierrynantes
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Beer bottle (50cl.), tasted in 2002.

Appearance : dark caramel color, with beige foam head little tight.
Smell : wheat aroma, nose end with a certain roundness and soft caramel.
Taste & Mouthfeel : fresh flavor, despite an initial soft palate herbaceous, spicy and tart. Roundness of yeast.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Weizenbock (fairly strong), but very pleasant.

Review added 10-17-2007, translated from french 3-7-2008.

thierrynantes, Oct 17, 2007
Photo of dnichols
4.28/5  rDev +10.6%

I poured a 650 ml bottle into a chilled challis.

A: It poured a creamy deep dark chocolate with a ting of orange and a robust caramel head that quickly receded from about 2 fingers to a light cover over the surface of the brew. The active carbonation fed the residual head allowing it to lace the glass evenly long into the drink.

S: Wow!! Bold, dark toasted malts with a light pumpernickel bread aroma.

T: There was a sweet malty flavor with a touch of maple syrup and freshly toasted bread. There was also an undercurrent of dark fruits and a nice fresh sweet finish.

M: Nice medium to full body with a creamy front and a dry sweet aftertaste that encouraged the next sip.

D: This is an easy brew to sip on long into the dark cool nights of fall. It's a bit filling so more than three or four might be a challenge but I''m a trooper and willing to give it a go.

Comment: I'm falling more and more for Weizenbocks...perhaps it's my Germanic DNA coming to the front and demanding a brew from the home land of my ancestors.

dnichols, Oct 12, 2007
Photo of cracgor
3.18/5  rDev -17.8%

Dark brown with a thin tan head. Smells sweet and sugar cane like..with a burnt background. Tastes a lot more bland than it smells. It has a good base of dark roasted malts to it, but lacks the complexity of some of it's peers. It does have some ester quality, but overall it comes out washed out. Has a fine mouthfeel. I've liked this style in the past, this one just seems a little weak for what I've been hoping for.

cracgor, Oct 08, 2007
Photo of mpyle
3.65/5  rDev -5.7%

Rich amber color with good clarity. Pours a big, healthy head with good retention.

Aroma is candy malt sweet with a bit of fruitcake. No hop, very clean.

Flavor has subtle malt sweetness, and subdued bubblegum fruity flavor. Finishes very slightly sweet and very clean.

Medium full body and high carbonation. Minimal alcohol warming. The carbonation bordered on unpleasant.

A very clean beer, but a bit bland. Lacks the hefeweizen yeast character, and really looks/tastes something like a bland doppelbock.

mpyle, Oct 07, 2007
Photo of ColoradoBobs
4.45/5  rDev +15%

16.9 ounce (500ml) bottle. Pour yields an enormous rocky light tan head over an opaque dark mahogany-coffee body. Gorgeous beer.

Smell is intense caramel malt over dark fruits: raisins, dates, figs. Mmmmm. What a delectable aroma. Warming, a little boozy, and sweetly-malted malty and chocolatey.

Taste follows aroma, with some notable additions: roasted bitterness is there, though mild; peppery spiceyness; a hint of banana and bubblegum. I like it. I like it a lot.

Nice rich mouthfeel: smooth, creamy, with nice carbonation.

Very easy to drink.

I guess my review is a bit of an out-lier here, beyond the first standard deviation (and almost outside the second!), but I love malt, I love Weizenbier, and I love Bocks. This baby is a very good example of all that I love in beer. Highly recommended.

ColoradoBobs, Sep 17, 2007
Photo of Thanby
4.22/5  rDev +9%

A: Dark, rich nut brown that appears a very saturated amber in the light. Big two-finger tan head that lasts for a couple minutes but never completely dissipates. A fair amount of carbonation, not a whole lot of lacing but it is there.

S: Immediately cloves and some darker fruits that I can't separate. Some chocolate and toasted malt, even a little woody scent. Overall the smell is a little on the harsh side but not unpleasant.

T: Much more bitter than I expected, but only because I expected extreme sweetness. Slightly bitter all the way through with a very strong caramel flavor on top of a blend of citrus, cloves, chocolate, and a rich smokiness (hickory or mesquite).

D: A very pleasing balance of sweet and bitter. All the flavors blend marvelously, leaving only a hint of the ABV and a slight fading bitterness at the end. I can't particularly distinguish the hops from the other flavors. Very easily drinkable, though full-bodied enough to serve as its own meal. The carbonation is just a hair too sharp, but the nice and creamy head balances it enough to not be offensive. Overall a very enjoyable experience.

Thanby, Sep 07, 2007
Photo of stephendr
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%

500 ml. bottle- color of dark caramel , with a brown thick frothy head - nose of yeast , malts , watery , and some cartelization – taste of malts , oats , yeast , and sugar sweet - body is watery, but full , smooth , and with low to medium carbonation – aftertaste of malts , almost too sweet , and light – easy drinking

stephendr, Aug 14, 2007
Photo of Mdog
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%

Appearance: Dark brown, deep red when held to light. Big foamy head but settles down to nothing after a while.

Smell: Clove, vague sweetness.

Taste: Lots of cloves, but has an underlying sweetness that seems to have some roasted or smoky tones. Reminds me a little of hickory BBQ sauce.

Drinkabilty: Weizenbocks are strong, probably one or two would be plenty.

I noticed after I drank the bottle that the best-by date was March 2006. So 16 months after that date it was still a pretty good beer. I prefer a little more sweetness and banana flavor in weizenbocks but this was still an interesting beer.

Mdog, Aug 11, 2007
Photo of roadrocket13
4.8/5  rDev +24%

my sample of Erdinger Pikantus Weizen-Bock was poured from a 1 pint .9 fl. oz. brown bottle at approximately 50*F into a 0.5 L "Harpoon UFO" Hefe-Weizen style glass (hand washed, no dishwasher).

in my honest opinion i believe this wonderful beer to be extremely under-rated.

the 3 finger foam of my finished pour was dotted with small, brown spots of the swirled-bottle yeast (as a proper Hefe-Weizen should be poured).

the liquid portion was a murky, coffee to chocolate brown.

the nose found a delightful balance of maltiness and yeast. a pleasantly strong spice aroma was also present. not at all overpowering.

the first few sips tickle the tongue with carbonation, just short of being over-carbonated. in the mouth i found predominantly dried fruit, grapes, and a hint of clove that reminded me of freshly baked pumpernickel bread (that in and of itself is worth the $2.50 i paid per bottle, a steal !). as the glass progresses the carbonation subsides substantially, though the head persists like sea-foam on the side of the glass. throughout the pint the sides of the tongue and finish are of a light, buttery cream. the after taste lingers and quickly changes to dried apricot and slight alcohol. well done for 7.3% ABV. quite pleasant.

for me, this beer is quite drinkable. unfortunately, the higher alcohol content means i won't be drinking too many of these ( >4 ) in quick succession.
i would pair this beer immediately with roasted duck stuffed with prunes and oranges. it may also compliment a platter of hot kartoffelpuffen (potato pancakes) served with gravy. a must for thanksgiving, and christmas meals.

an excellent example of a Weizen-Bock. i think Erdinger has a real performer here and their Pikantus Weizen-Bock is certainly a world class beer in every respect.

Prost!

roadrocket13, Aug 05, 2007
Photo of rodrot
3.3/5  rDev -14.7%

Pours a murky, dark brown color with a huge head that took a while to subside. Aroma was malty and yeasty with just a hint of spice. Taste was malty and caramelly with a good bit of sweet, fruity flavors mixed in. I could just barely taste the clovey, banana flavors that the style is known for. I was sort of disappointed in that I was looking forward to the beer having a lot more of that spicy characteristic in the taste. Mouthfeel was medium bodied in the palate. Drinkability was pretty good and the beer went down fairly easy. Not a bad beer at all, but not anywhere close to Aventinus in complexity.

rodrot, Jun 30, 2007
Photo of scottoale
4.18/5  rDev +8%

This hearty brew came in a 500ml. brown bottle with a Best before end: 07-2007 on the back label. It poured a very dark, murky fig brown with loads of carbonation and a two-finger foamy tan head that was very short lasting. Nice looking lace sticks to glass and leaves a ring of tight foam and some surface lace, while still bubbling away.

Sweet caramel fruity nose, somewhat thick and roasty. A very malty strong Bock of a Weissen, that smells very enticing for sure.

The nose doesn't lie here....rich and sweet with dark fruit, chocolate, caramel and thick toffee just load the palate. The flavors just keep flowing all around the tongue, full and rich as the sweetness tapers off. Earthy, thick and roasty, even somewhat nutty, it goes down with a most pleasing swallow. Great Bock style flavor...most German!

Mouthfeel is just a tad on the fizzy side...less natural carbonation would not hurt at all here, overall drinkability along with a healthy plus ABV make this brew a pleasure to consume...well done!

scottoale, Jun 06, 2007
Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%

Dark caramel chocolate brown / too thick to see through / mild carbonation / nice head

Roast chocolate and floral apples / caramel-toffee sweetness

Sharply tart metallic first wave / heavily carbonation / roasted chocolate / fruity floral herbal European hops / light warmth and spice / sticky thick sweetness in back / finishes mostly clean with lingering yeast flavors

MrHungryMonkey, May 30, 2007
Photo of rallison
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%

A: Dark, almost muddy brown with a 2 finger fluffy off-white head that very slowly dies down.

S: Wonderful yeasty, wheaty smell with a touch of grapes.

T: Not bad. Lots of wheat here, as should be the case. A bit of alcohol is there to lend a hand, along with some dark fruits. Nicely spiced too - maybe some coriander, or something similar? Altogether, a nice combo of flavors.

M: Prickly carbonation with a relatively full mouthfeel. The carbonation definitely keeps it from being syrupy. To be honest, I wouldn't mind the carbonation being dialed down a touch.

D: Quite drinkable. Although, the carbonation may get to you here.

Recommended. Not a perfect weizenbock (and too bad, I love the style), but a good one.

rallison, May 05, 2007
Photo of vancurly
4.28/5  rDev +10.6%

BB 11-2007, poured into weissbier glass.

Thick, heavy, creamy light brown head, that persists & persists. Heavy dark brown colour, opaque.

Aromas initially of chocolate & yeast. Some subtle pineapple, light allspice, and dark malts. Warms to paler malts (Munich?)

Chewy, fruit cakey, caramel. Dark chocolate, with no alcohol note to speak of. Like a milkshake.... no.... like chocolate mousse. It is sweet, but not cloyingly so...

Some late banana...

It's smoooth, creamy, but very well balanced. There is the faintest of bitterness at the back, like Lindt 75%.

Great stuff. Dessert beer....

vancurly, Apr 24, 2007
Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
87 out of 100 based on 387 ratings.