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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus - Erdinger Weissbräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

369 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 369
Reviews: 253
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 10.34%
Wants: 19
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
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Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-28-2002)
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kshankar

District of Columbia

4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Darker brown with a fluffy tan head, good retention on it. This looks good. I was unsure of how this one would actually look (The last weizenbock I sampled was Vitus which looked like a hefeweizen)

Aroma: Wheat, raisins, malts predominantly. Typical other weizen notes such as banana, some spices, etc.

Taste: Fruity with some wheat. The raisins dominate the flavor in this one. Oriented very much towards darker fruits. Sweet as well. Mild on the spices, very little alcohol taste, considering the 7.3% this thing has. Minimal bitterness as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and goes down well. Rather smooth going down.

Drinkability: Well, you wouldn't know this thing is over 7%. Its pretty good for this, in the sense that you can have a couple, even though it'd probably hit you suddenly.

Overall good for the style, and good for anything. The Vitus is something I enjoy more, but I'm still trying more of these types. For what its worth, this is the best Erdinger I've had, personally (I thought their hefe was decent, and their kristal wasn't bad..but was nothing in comparison to the Weihenstephaners)

Serving type: bottle

10-19-2008 08:12:14 | More by kshankar
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stephens101

Oklahoma

3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark murky brown into my Oklahoma University hefe glass. A huge, chunky tan head fades slowly. Smells of clove, malt, banana, lemon and orange. Tastes of spice, malts, subtle chocolate, grain and an underlying sweetness. Fairly well carbonated with streaks of bubbles floating to the top through the life of the beer. Light to medium bodied and not that creamy, but smooth going down nonetheless. The 7.3% ABV was not realy noticeable until I noticed it on the bottle, and started paying attention. Basically, it's evident, but not too much. The perfect weizenbock for a late summer day.

Serving type: bottle

09-06-2008 21:19:08 | More by stephens101
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Med

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown with a large frothy head. The head sticks around for a little while, but doesn't leave much lacing to speak of. The aroma is rich and bold, with dark ripe fruits, brown sugar, molasses, and a hint of toffee. Taste follow, but with raisin and plum leading to a sweet, round middle flavor and a slight bitterness at the finish from the dark roasted malts and wheat. Mouth is reasonably viscous, with healthy carbonation tickling the tongue. I need to get more of this. Very drinkable and highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

07-24-2008 00:58:51 | More by Med
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PatrickJR

North Carolina

3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 16.9 oz bottle into weizen glass.

A - Light brown, 4 finger head with moderate retention. Falls to a thin cap with some moderate lacing. Nearly opaque brown in color, with red highlights.

S - Somewhat one-dimensional, but enticing. Definite presence of bananas, with trace spiciness leaning towards cinnamon or nutmeg.

T - Sharp phenolic note kicks things off and fall to a thin caramel flavor. Mid to late palate a harsh burnt flavor pulls through with a strong bitterness. Alcohol and another wave of phenols wrap up the flavor with a little heat and a bitter finish.

M - Overall a decent smooth and medium bodied feel, but upfront it's dominated by prickly and unnecessary carbonation and alcohol heat takes over near the finish.

D - Not a terrible beer, but a little off balance. Some of the harshest and least desirable aspects are accentuated while the softer flavors are restrained.

Serving type: bottle

07-22-2008 06:50:04 | More by PatrickJR
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MisterClean

California

3.45/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From Total Wine

A - Lt burnt sienna, unfiltered, lots of orange creamy head, which dissipates slow and leaves light lacing.

S - Citrus, cinnamon, coriander, clove and wheat. Can't wait to sip it.

T - Oranges and cinnamon. That's it?

M - At first good, but kind of makes me a little queasy, which is very uncommon. Very, very carbonated as well.

D - Smells better than it tastes, but probably is a good beer for the style. Not my cup of tea.

Serving type: bottle

07-18-2008 04:45:02 | More by MisterClean
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Mryup

California

3.73/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

A: A deep dark brown with fireworks of CO2 dancing inside. A gentle pour produces an inch of toasted head which slowly dissipates a thick 1/8 inch sheet. Slight, spotted lacing. Looks nice.

S: Very mellow. Straight forward wheat with some very subtle caramel malts. Sweet prunes, raisins and a hint of....perhaps cherry. Alcohol also makes itself known. Nothing to write home about.

T: Prunes, raisins and fruitiness dominate with the wheat not far behind. The toasted malts only whisper their presence. Something not picked up in the smell was the gentle but present cloves and ghosts of other earthy spices. The alcohol is present throughout but it seems the flavors are balanced perfectly to it's weight. It almost feels like the brewers built the balance around the alcohol. Interesting and unusual.

M: Medium to heavy mouthfeel. Very full. Low CO2 but it works. The mouthfeel is actually well done for the heaviness. Near perfect.

D: Ummm... for what it is it's very drinkable. Buts its a higher alcohol, heavier beer.

The scent and taste of this beer won't knock your socks off but the more I contemplate it and study it's characteristics the more I appreciate it. Not the best for its style buts its near the top. A great choice for someone desiring the style with a dark fruit slant.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2008 03:11:33 | More by Mryup
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mmmbeer

Massachusetts

3.2/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Half-liter German bottle, conditioned, with 12-2007 on the back label. The beer is a yeast-laden mahogany, with lots of carbonation and four fingers of loose, tan head that snaps, crackles and pops, eventually reducing to nothing and imparting no lace. Sweet, vinous and grapey/cidery in the nose, with mild banana, some grassiness, and a touch of alcohol - old and not to style, but not that bad. Similar on the palate, with touches of wheat and dark malts, some esters, and just a hint of oxidation. The light and tingly body thickens slowly and has very little finish. Definitely not a typical weizenbock, but it doesn't taste that bad considering it's past the freshness date and lightly oxidized.

Serving type: bottle

04-15-2008 22:31:54 | More by mmmbeer
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BretSikkink

Mexico

3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Attractive dark brown color, only the fewest highlights. Off white/tan head is very soft, doesn't leave much lace. Would be a solid 4 if it weren't for the head gushing out of the glass, way too carbonated.

Alright notes on the nose, looking at a mostly malty aroma, definitely took on the wheat character, and is backed up with fermented fruits, particularly the fusel alcohol. If my tone wasn't clear enough, it's not that great, nor that powerful.

The flavor is something of a let-down as well. I love the smooth creaminess and latent potence of the weizenbock, but this one doesn't hold up. Dark fruit is there, mildly spiced. Fine. Hops add a prickle of earth, while the yeast is pleasantly peppery. It just lacks that certain joie de vivre.

Because it's too carbonated. The lushness, the creaminess, can't be present if the flavors are being whisked right off the tongue. It's like drinking sparkling water; everything on the top side of the tongue is quickly replaced by that numb, mineral sensation.

The finish is a little dry, since most of the flavor is lifted away, and leaves a slight acidic aftertaste. I gave the beer four for drinkability because it's still a pleasant dark German-style wheat beer. The other characteristics I gave Pikantus a lower rating on because according to the other beers of this style that I have thoroughly enjoyed, this should be a fruitier, chewier experience, and I didn't get what I was hoping for. Not horrible, but I don't think I'll be returning.

Serving type: bottle

04-04-2008 04:24:16 | More by BretSikkink
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AlexLMS

Portugal

3.93/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: cloudy with a coppery-brown colour. The head is huge, light brown, thick and rich with an excellent retention and lots of lacings.
Aroma: sweet toasted malts, wheat and a little of cloves.
Taste: red ripe fruits, caramel and toasted malts.
Mouthfeel: velvety, medium carbonation, high, but well disguised alcoholic strength (7.3% ABV) and a firm body.
Finish: starts with a sweet and fruity aftertaste that quickly turns to a dry finish.

Overall: best Erdinger in my opinion. Great combination of wheat, yeast and dark roasted malts. It may be too sweet for some drinkers, but overall great beer. Looking forward for another one.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2008 13:35:11 | More by AlexLMS
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dsa7783

New Jersey

4.03/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1 Pint, 6 fl oz bottle copped singly from Super Saver in Somerville...
An aggressive pour yielded a deep, copper, ruby-red, dark amber color with an impressive foamy and frothy head that exhibited strong staying power and left a fair amount of lacing around the glass...
Deep,dark malty aroma rendolent of caramel, vanilla, and brown sugars...
Taste strongly complemented the smell, with a strong suggestion of syrup, molasses, honey, and sweet malts... Rich, deep, dehydrated fruit, figs, and prune taste with a load of character, and flavor...
Good, thick, creamy, rich mouthfeel with a good level of drinkability where the alcohol is hard to detect and the flavors aren't cloying...
Recommended...

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2008 01:30:05 | More by dsa7783
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KarlHungus

Minnesota

3.33/5  rDev -14%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This beer pours a dark brown color. The head is massive, billowy, and recedes slowly into no lacing. The aroma is of caramel, toffee, wheat, and alcohol. The taste is of caramel, and toffee with a hint of tangy wheat. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, and highly carbonated. Overall, this is a decent beer that I suppose I could drink again.

Serving type: bottle

02-15-2008 02:54:47 | More by KarlHungus
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JDV

Texas

3.25/5  rDev -16%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Almost fruity, malty, rich, wheaty nose. Some alcohol aroma present too as it warms up. Dark caramel chocolate color with looong lasting foamy off white head. Taste was malty, and bock like with a definite taste of wheatiness as well. An interesting beer of a style I'd like to try more of. Towards the end, I could taste the alcohol some as well, but overall a good beer that I'd get again occasionally.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2008 22:03:06 | More by JDV
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NEhophead

Massachusetts

3.45/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

16.9 fl oz brown bottle; served in a flute.
Best before end: 01.2008.

Pours a heavily-clouded, dirty oak beneath a foamy and carbonation-filled, off-white head. A few traces of spotted lacing.

Yeast-filled, dry mustiness; slightly phenolic and quite spicy: clove, peppercorn. Touches of tangy, sour citrus fruit; creamy banana, rum.

Creamy caramel with a hint of milk chocolate. Notes of apple, orange, banana; a light sourness cut short by a burst of carbonation and a dry clove spice. Rather phenolic with notes of rum. A bland, not quite creamy caramel returns in the finish.

Medium bodied; extremely active and over-carbonated. Too yeast-filled, even for a Weizenbock.

A bland version of what usually is an exciting style. Dumbed down with yeast and carbonation; this bock's true flavors never have the chance to shine.

Serving type: bottle

01-27-2008 20:17:52 | More by NEhophead
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drperm

Virginia

3.48/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I'm growing fond of Erdinger as a brewery.

A nice nose of raisins/grape juice. Very pleasant, considering how rich and dark it is in the glass.

The taste was also of raisins, and dates. Very pleasant, easy to drink, if somewhat rich and grapey throughout the experience.

I think this would be good one to pair with gamey dishes (such as duck!).

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2008 14:08:53 | More by drperm
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Pauly2X

Wisconsin

4.22/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Two finger head faded and fizzled atop a dark reddish brown body.

S- Sweet malts followed by banana and light clove.

T- Light pleasant esters on the take with full bodied malt sweetness on the finish.

M- Full bodied yet light even to be refreshing.

D- Good thing its a full half liter bottle.

My first of this style, and I like it alot. See, you try something new and you get rewarded.

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2007 20:25:53 | More by Pauly2X
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basica

Singapore

3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is my first ever weizenbock style beer; I bought the bottle from my dutch beer friend along with a whole lot of other goodies. This beer poured out with a huge head that tops the dark brown beer beneath; the head quickly dissipates leaving a thin layer of foam with some lacing. The smell was bock malty, nice huge malts as expected for a weizenbock some earthy tones and it almost smelled a little salty. The entry to the taste was fairly alcoholic and a little bitter with the malts hiding beneath. These malts then start showing up more and get stronger towards the finish. Clearly I could pick up some spices including cloves and the familiar banana notes evident in many German wheat beers. However the taste was not embracing what I was expecting after getting a really good nose. In particular the alcoholic and bitter part of it was something I prefer without. The after taste had some alcoholic notes in it with some dark fruits (dates?) and a nice slightly sweet bready maltiness which was there to last. The mouthfeel was between medium to full body with a nice creaminess to it and smoothness was there; just as like any of the Erdingers I had. The disappointment was in the taste entry. It was pretty strong though only going at 7.3 ABV; at times I was kind of drinking it like drinking a weizen. I have one more bottle of this; hope it would give me a better experience as I do have really high expectations of this style.. being a big fan of bocks and hefeweizens.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2007 16:51:55 | More by basica
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brendan13

Australia

3.85/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - 500ml bottle dated best before 04-2008. Pours a hazy dark brown colour with a solid 2 inch beige head that slowly falls away to a thin whisp. Fair amount of lacing is left.
S - Quite full on clove spice phenolic notes on top of a wheat malt & sweet dark fruit base.
T - All of the smell but better as well as some chocolate notes.
M - Medium bodied with a fairly sticky mouthfeel.
D - A good beer for sure but due to the 7.3%ABV it surely wouldn't be something you'd session.

Serving type: bottle

11-25-2007 10:16:50 | More by brendan13
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srandycarter

California

3.73/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Into the tulip

A - Between cola and black. Small head. Sudsy thin lacing.

S - I love this smell. DEEP smells of bready sweet malt.

T - Taste only deliver part of the aroma, plus there is an unusually bitter end.

M - Trojan. Gets the job done in a minimal way. Not a big mouthfeel beer. Things start big and disappoints a little.

D - It's a good beer, but there are better.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2007 05:48:44 | More by srandycarter
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thierrynantes

France

4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (50cl.), tasted in 2002.

Appearance : dark caramel color, with beige foam head little tight.
Smell : wheat aroma, nose end with a certain roundness and soft caramel.
Taste & Mouthfeel : fresh flavor, despite an initial soft palate herbaceous, spicy and tart. Roundness of yeast.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Weizenbock (fairly strong), but very pleasant.

Review added 10-17-2007, translated from french 3-7-2008.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2007 20:32:18 | More by thierrynantes
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dnichols

Washington

4.28/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I poured a 650 ml bottle into a chilled challis.

A: It poured a creamy deep dark chocolate with a ting of orange and a robust caramel head that quickly receded from about 2 fingers to a light cover over the surface of the brew. The active carbonation fed the residual head allowing it to lace the glass evenly long into the drink.

S: Wow!! Bold, dark toasted malts with a light pumpernickel bread aroma.

T: There was a sweet malty flavor with a touch of maple syrup and freshly toasted bread. There was also an undercurrent of dark fruits and a nice fresh sweet finish.

M: Nice medium to full body with a creamy front and a dry sweet aftertaste that encouraged the next sip.

D: This is an easy brew to sip on long into the dark cool nights of fall. It's a bit filling so more than three or four might be a challenge but I''m a trooper and willing to give it a go.

Comment: I'm falling more and more for Weizenbocks...perhaps it's my Germanic DNA coming to the front and demanding a brew from the home land of my ancestors.

Serving type: bottle

10-12-2007 03:31:15 | More by dnichols
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cracgor

Texas

3.18/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with a thin tan head. Smells sweet and sugar cane like..with a burnt background. Tastes a lot more bland than it smells. It has a good base of dark roasted malts to it, but lacks the complexity of some of it's peers. It does have some ester quality, but overall it comes out washed out. Has a fine mouthfeel. I've liked this style in the past, this one just seems a little weak for what I've been hoping for.

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2007 00:57:26 | More by cracgor
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mpyle

Maryland

3.65/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Rich amber color with good clarity. Pours a big, healthy head with good retention.

Aroma is candy malt sweet with a bit of fruitcake. No hop, very clean.

Flavor has subtle malt sweetness, and subdued bubblegum fruity flavor. Finishes very slightly sweet and very clean.

Medium full body and high carbonation. Minimal alcohol warming. The carbonation bordered on unpleasant.

A very clean beer, but a bit bland. Lacks the hefeweizen yeast character, and really looks/tastes something like a bland doppelbock.

Serving type: bottle

10-07-2007 14:45:03 | More by mpyle
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ColoradoBobs

Colorado

4.45/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

16.9 ounce (500ml) bottle. Pour yields an enormous rocky light tan head over an opaque dark mahogany-coffee body. Gorgeous beer.

Smell is intense caramel malt over dark fruits: raisins, dates, figs. Mmmmm. What a delectable aroma. Warming, a little boozy, and sweetly-malted malty and chocolatey.

Taste follows aroma, with some notable additions: roasted bitterness is there, though mild; peppery spiceyness; a hint of banana and bubblegum. I like it. I like it a lot.

Nice rich mouthfeel: smooth, creamy, with nice carbonation.

Very easy to drink.

I guess my review is a bit of an out-lier here, beyond the first standard deviation (and almost outside the second!), but I love malt, I love Weizenbier, and I love Bocks. This baby is a very good example of all that I love in beer. Highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

09-17-2007 02:19:55 | More by ColoradoBobs
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Thanby

Ohio

4.22/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Dark, rich nut brown that appears a very saturated amber in the light. Big two-finger tan head that lasts for a couple minutes but never completely dissipates. A fair amount of carbonation, not a whole lot of lacing but it is there.

S: Immediately cloves and some darker fruits that I can't separate. Some chocolate and toasted malt, even a little woody scent. Overall the smell is a little on the harsh side but not unpleasant.

T: Much more bitter than I expected, but only because I expected extreme sweetness. Slightly bitter all the way through with a very strong caramel flavor on top of a blend of citrus, cloves, chocolate, and a rich smokiness (hickory or mesquite).

D: A very pleasing balance of sweet and bitter. All the flavors blend marvelously, leaving only a hint of the ABV and a slight fading bitterness at the end. I can't particularly distinguish the hops from the other flavors. Very easily drinkable, though full-bodied enough to serve as its own meal. The carbonation is just a hair too sharp, but the nice and creamy head balances it enough to not be offensive. Overall a very enjoyable experience.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2007 01:09:20 | More by Thanby
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stephendr

California

3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

500 ml. bottle- color of dark caramel , with a brown thick frothy head - nose of yeast , malts , watery , and some cartelization – taste of malts , oats , yeast , and sugar sweet - body is watery, but full , smooth , and with low to medium carbonation – aftertaste of malts , almost too sweet , and light – easy drinking

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2007 22:30:24 | More by stephendr
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