Petrus Oud Bruin - De Brabandere

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Ratings: 1,199
Reviews: 572
rAvg: 3.69
pDev: 12.74%
Wants: 21
Gots: 90 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 05-05-2002

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Reviews by spoony:
Photo of spoony
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From an 11.2 oz into a tulip.

A-The brew has a pretty dark cherry/cola color. It is mostly clear with a couple streams of visible carbonation to be seen. The head is dark tan and it fades pretty quickly from 1.5 fingers to a thin cap. The cap eventually leaves, too.

S-I picked up some cherries, vanilla, and lightly tart grapes. It is not nearly as sour as one might expect. In fact, the beer has more malty and sweet notes than true sour notes. Quite mild with just a little bit o funk and oak to convince you that, in fact, you are drinking an oud bruin.

T-Tastes follows the smell pretty closely. The vanilla grows a little as the beer warms, but the beer never becomes terribly complex and the lack of concentration in flavor lends a slightly watery component to it all. There is just a sweet mix of cherry, vanilla, and a light malted flavor with a sweet finish. Not unpleasant, but not on par with the better examples of the style.

M-Lighter to medium bodied with a carbonation that, while noticeable, doesn't seem to add much to the brew. A touch slick feeling when the beer gets close to room temperature.

O-This is not a bad beer, just not a great one. It lacks the complexity and intensity that I look for in this style. I suppose the cherry/vanilla components of this brew would pair with some blue cheese or something similarly sharp, but I did not find myself wanting to drink more.

More User Reviews:
Photo of kojevergas
3.25/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

I believe I've reviewed this afore, but as I haven't yet uploaded the notes from my ever-growing backlog, I figured I'd review it live. Or maybe I just wanted an excuse to drink more Petrus...

BOTTLE: 1 pint 9.4 fl oz. Brown glass. Gold foil covers a gold hood-and-wire cap which cages a cork. Simple label art.

Acquired: At a bottle shop in Austin.

Reviewed live at low altitude in Austin, TX. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Vintage: This is a blend of 20-30 month old Aged Pale and a second fresh brew.
ABV: 5.5%
Style: Oddly, the label description calls this a Flanders Red Ale (even though the name is obviously Oud Bruin). I'll decide which style to review as as I drink.
Serving temp: Cold. Allowed to warm over the course of consumption.
Serving vessel: Goblet.
Expectations: High (given the brewery).

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 1 finger wide. Off-white. Fair creaminess and thickness. Light lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Retention: ~2 minutes. Average.

BODY: Deep dark amber. Not vibrant, but it has a glow when backlit. No yeast or sediment can be seen.

Looks pretty average for a Flanders Red, albeit a bit dark.

AROMA: Lightly tart, with hints of cherry and faint acetic pie crust. Has a kiss of vinegar. Faint oak (more a foeder than barrel presence) guides the beer and lends it natural cohesion. Belgian character is lent by the Belgian yeast, with fruity and lightly sour notes filling it out nicely. Sourness is timid and mild - maybe a 3/10 in terms of intensity. This certainly doesn't suggest a puckering brew, and its relative sweetness indicates its youth. The rawness of the cherry is nice, but a more refined fruit profile and more acetic aroma would be ideal, as would more sourness.

Aromatic intensity: average.

This definitely evokes more a Flanders Red than an Oud Bruin.

TASTE: The faint acetic character is nice, but it doesn't fully commit to the pie crust like it should, and the cherry fruit is too sweet and young; more tartness and sourness would be better. The oak is too timid and weak, but does lend the beer cohesion. Slightly vinegary. Belgian red malts and a kiss of candi sugar provide the odd malt backbone, which feels too sweet for a Flanders Red (or an Oud Bruin, for that matter). The yeast just hasn't taken hold like it should, and the beer isn't sour or tart enough as a result. Sourness is a scant 2-3/10 in terms of intensity; hardly puckerworthy.

Depth of flavour: Average.
Flavour duration: Average.
Flavour intensity: Average.
Flavour amplitude: Above average.

It's not egregiously flawed, but it could and should be so much deeper and more intricate. As-is, it's a balanced cohesive brew, but is reserved and doesn't commit to its flavours. The yeast and bacteria should shine, but they don't have control of the beer.

TEXTURE: Acidity is typical of the style, which is to say it's above average. Smooth, wet, medium-bodied, aptly thick, aptly hefty, and aptly weighty on the palate. Critically, it's not puckering as it should be, and lacks tartness. Well-carbonated.

Not oily, gushed, hot, boozy, astringent, harsh, rough, or scratchy.

This texture fails to accentuate the best notes in the flavour profile - the sourness. As a result, the mouthfeel lags behind the taste in terms of playing to the beer's strengths. Execution is wanting as a result.

OVERALL: This is enjoyable, and will likely get better with age (say, 5 years), but it's just not as rich or well-layered as other traditional Belgian offerings. The discerning drinker will be better served by sticking with Rodenbach, Duchesse de Bourgogne, or Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge. This is the lesser of the widely distributed classic Flanders Red Ales, and will please fans of the style but won't impress. I'd much sooner take Petrus' other offerings over this, and I think the blend has incorporated far too much of the younger beer. That said, it's highly drinkable, would pair well with salad, and would make a good first sour beer for a newcomer to the category.

High C+

Photo of Popsinc
3.77/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: a nice deep brown pour with a medium tan head.

Smell: an exceptionally tart nose....sweet n sour....strong cherry notes and hints of tart raspberry. some woody hints as well.

Taste: again with the Petrus beers it seems that the nose is the highlight and the taste leaves much to be desired. The taste maintained it's cherry & woody characteristics but they were sverley toned down on the palate and faded much too quickly. A dry and woody finish which was most pleasant.

Mouthfeel: somewhat lively and fresh. a dry and crisp finish.

Drinkablilty: better than the Triple and Speciale. not bad.

Photo of RoyalT
3.22/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance – Nice dark brown body with a decent head.

Smell – Lively mix of malt covered in sour candy. There are some light fruits in there as well, but the overpowering sour sugar dominates this aroma.

Taste – The traditional flavors wimp out at the tongue. The sourness is there with a decent malt base, but it’s very light and watery. After drinking their Aged Ale bottle, this offering disappoints.

Mouthfeel – Nice, tight carbonation and some reasonable sourness help along this ale, but the thinness of the body all but ruins the effort.

Drinkability – I’ll stick with the Aged Ale.

Photo of tectactoe
3.63/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Petrus Oud Bruin pours out with deep and rich, woody brown color; it looks nearly black from afar once it makes it into the glass, and it exhausts a beautiful ruby shade when held in front of the light. The grey-ish, beige-ish head settles to less than a quarter-inch within a few moments; some good amounts of lacing outlines the glass where the beer used to be.

Must is the largest and most prominent thing in the aroma; dirty, earthy must with a substantial amount of woody funk. Dry oak is complimented by just a small hint of acetic tartness; faint lemon, vanilla barrel notes, and a mild kiss of cherry skins. People expecting a highly sour and saliva-pumping aroma will be disappointed - it's much heavier on the oaky, musk aroma.

Following through with that notion, the tartness is low on the palate as well, although there is a very mild acidic-like astringency that kind of bites the back of the tongue. Now imagine ripping a floorboard straight from an abandoned barn and taking a lick; lots of dirty funk, heavy oak, heavy must, and a touch of hay.

The more I drink, the more this beer starts tasting like a Belgian dubbel with the accompaniment of a very mild tartness. Fruit notes get larger and larger; sweet plums, heavy grapes, vinous and wine-like stone fruits. Even some additional nutty and cocoa powder hints on the very back-end, inside of a finish that's dominated with plenty of dry oak. Thin-medium body with subtle carbonation and a smooth, soft mouth feel.

Those who buy this beer expecting a tart or sour ale like the Petrus Aged Pale will be slightly disappointed, as this beer both more dry and sweet than tart, really. It really reminded me of a dubbel with some vinous additions an a touch of astringent tartness. Drinkable due to overall low acidity, but there are better shelf things you can probably grab for this style.

Photo of MadScientist
4.03/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: A deep copper with excellent clarity. The long lasting, medium-tan head is comprised of fine bubble and leaves lacing on the glass.

S: The aroma is mainly a moderate tart/sour aroma with some fruit, mostly dried cherries. There is a sweet aroma giving a Smarties type impression with the fruit and tart aroma. No hops, no malt, no diacetyl. Light notes of chocolate come it warms.

T: This has a nicely balanced sweet-tart flavor with a tartness being slightly stronger than the sweetness. There is little hops bitterness and no flavor. The fruit flavors are mostly tart cherry. There is some light spicy and vanilla flavors.

M: Medium bodied with moderately-high carbonation. Somewhat smooth.

O: This is a great, balanced sour beer. It not to sour and is great a example to introduce wine drinkers to a complex, flavorful beer.

Photo of JudgeRoughneck
3.93/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Several inches of khaki head falls slooow into an opaque molasses beer and leaves intricate lacing. Aromas are nuts, berries, and brown sugar.

Tase is a light medley vinous fruit, cherry cordial, and green apple all pulled down by darker fruit tastes, slight anise, and a taste that sort of reminds me of finnel. Despite the flavors described this is a very light, smooth, easy drinking beer. Mouthfeel is slick but light. I feel like having this beer without pairing it with some crazy food was a waste. It is a great one for the table, complex but easy-going.

Photo of kaimcm
3.72/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

bottle poured into large bowl wine goblet.

A: nothing remarkable to speak of. dissipating head, deep amber body. tiny bit of lacing and stick.

S: cherries, acidity, a little bit of wood, barbeque sort of salty bacon fat

T: pretty soft and coating, light malt, some barely tart fruit and a tiny bit of sugar up front. herbal, tea like qualities mid palate as the acidity pulls through. more pronounced cherries. finish dries a bit but I have to admit this falls a little flat even before the swallow can be completed. theres a decent level of complexity and interest here but I dont think it follows through. crisp and refreshing, the acidity is light enough to be very versatile.

M: eh. its okay. a little on the soft and weak end. this beer should have plenty of life left in its bottle but already seems to be getting tired.

D: interesting. enjoyable. worth a shot for sure...dont know about much after that.

Photo of weatherdog
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750mL bottle poured into a couple wine glasses

It pours a deep rich looking brown with a tight creamy looking head that sticks around for a little bit. Potent crimson highlight can be seen when held up to a light.

The nose is of light candied cherries with just a little lactic bite. A little bit of vinous and dirt is also there.

The flavor starts off with some candied cherries but not nearly at a level of beers like the Duchesse. It then gets nice and creamy with some dirt like Brett notes and then finishes with a light lactic finish combined with some malt sweetness.

Mouthfeel is medium full with a nice creaminess that isn't overbearing. A lower carbonation level also probably adds to the perceived creaminess. Drinkability is decent but I prefer a more sharp bite at the end in my Flanders beer to make it more drinkable.

Overall this is another pretty good easily found and affordable Flanders but lacks a little special something to make it great.

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.26/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Dark mahogany pour with a tiny bubbly head that quickly forms a ring around the glass. Spotty lacing....not much to look at in the glass really. Sour cherries waft up into my nose upon first smell. Some earthy yeast and woody tones pop in along with a vinous quality and dark fruits. Quite lovely.

Sweet and sour cherry notes fight back and forth against one another in sublime fashion. Woody background that leaves a dry finish on the way down. Earty yeast twang works its way in and out of each sip. Fruity and vinous...slightly acidic with a hint of cocoa. A very enjoyable experience.

Mouthfeel is rather thin and crisp. Rolls over the palate nicely with good carbonation. This 8.4oz bottle is a tease...I could easily go for a 750 of this stuff. Incredibly drinkable and tasty. I will be seeking this one out again. Recommended.

Photo of lordofthewiens
3.88/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this beer after enjoying an Earthmonk. This one, while still a good beer, pales in comparison. It was served in an oversize wine glass. Medium brown in color with a small light brown head that left a little bit of lacing. Aroma was mostly dark fruit with a little bit of malt. I seemed to taste mostly cherries and caramel. Medium-bodied and pleasant.

Photo of SolaceBrewing
4.21/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter. Served at 55-60F

Appearance - dark brown, hues of ruby and mahogany when held up to a light; small head that lingers for a long time

Aroma - dark fruit, plums, sweet malt, slightly toasted, maybe just the slightest hint of oak

Mouthfeel - med-high carbonation that fits this style well--the carbonation enhances the sour flavors on the tongue without being too sharp

Flavor - starts with fruit, plum, maybe a touch of Concord grape; middle layers on a tart/sour (like the skin of a plum) and sweet gives way to bitter in the finish, with lingering sourness

Overall - my first Oud Bruin, and I love the balance between sweet-sour-bitter, none too strong, the flavors progressing through each sip; I agree this beer could be improved by having a bit more body

Photo of Beaver13
3.06/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle. Pours ruby amber with a big fizzy light tan head that goes to a thin film that leaves some lacing.

The aroma is subdued - some acidic fruity sourness and some funk. As it warms it's more sweet woody cherries.

The flavor is sweet acidic malts with tart fruits and some light sourness and funk. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with some sharp carbonation.

Overall, an OK mild acidic sour that is more sweet than sour. Probably a good beginner sour.

Photo of Billolick
3.6/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Happy to get to sample this brew on tap at the Collins bar in NYC. Pours dark brown, with ruby hues on the edges. The nose was quite malty, with also a hint of must. Carboantion seems low, with a very slight head developed and limited lacing. Malt sweetness up front initially, then mid way lactic sourness picked up. Also a hint of cherry and vanilla. Not much yeast or hops characteristics involved in the mix. Basically a malty belgian with a sour undertone. Eh, not really for me, I'd classify this one as a middle of the road Belgian, worth a try but not of much more interest.

Photo of tigg924
4.48/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Appearance: light brown in color, huge head, high carbonation, clear

Smell: wood, sour mix, and grain

Taste: wood, toasted malt, slight sour mix, dark sweet fruit--maybe black cherry

Mouthfeel: super smooth, nice sweet and sour mix. high carbonation, dry, light

Drinkability: This beer is now in my top 10. I love the sourness combined with the woodiness. I have not had anything that tastes like this before. This is my favorite sour beer post my Eulogy trip to Philadelphia. The low abv means I could have several.

Photo of badbeer
3.7/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark amber color with a foamy head leaving a little bit of sticky lacing. Smells funky. Sour, overripe fruit: apples, pears, plums and grapes. Taste is pretty good, sour fruit, wood, and even a cola like flavor mixed in there as well. Light body, moderate carbonation, very dry. Cloyingly dry in the finish which really hurts this, it could be much better otherwise.

Photo of Mora2000
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a clear reddish-brown color with a white head. The aroma is dark fruit with some grape notes. I don't get much tartness in the smell. The flavor is very light tart grapes with a nice caramel malt backbone that adds some sweetness. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A decent beer, but not near as good as the Petrus Aged Pale, which is excellent.

Photo of magictrokini
3.3/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Clear brown pour with a short tan head. Caramel, oak, cherries, and funk in the nose. Sweet and sour bite with oak, malt, and green apples in the taste. Not a really bretty beer, more of a sour mash/sour fruit combo without the buttery sweetness. Sour and dry finish.

Photo of deebo
3.58/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle with a BB date of 7/23/14.
A-Clear reddish brown with a fluffy sticky tan head.
S-Very beery, lots of alcohol and malt.
T-Brown notes of grainy toasted malt with a oaky characteristic evident.
M-Highly carbonated, medium bodied.
O-An interesting brew. Some sourness, lots of oaky wood flavor and brown notes. Not overwhelming and pretty easy to drink. An interesting style for sure. I think this is the first oud bruin that I've tried so don't have anything to compare it with. First thought is it's a decent change of pace but not a style of beer I'll be craving, but time will tell.

Photo of DrunkenPanther
3.9/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured a chocolately brown with a thin lacy head and tiny Belium bubbles.

Scent was a light and tart smell. Very crisp, but also very light. Was not overpowering at all and did not really give away to how sour the taste may be.

The taste was crisp and light. The draft I had was served at a pretty chilled temperature, so that may have had something to do with how crisp it was. It does leave a sour aftertaste that goes away quickly.

Very good sour beer for those who would like to try a sour, but are not ready for the super sour beers like a Berliner Weiss style.

Photo of jondeelee
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Has a warm, bready, yeasty smell, even when the ale is fairly cold. In fact, the nose is reminiscent of hot buttered toast. A slightly sour mash note rounds out the aroma.

On the tongue, the sour flavors are the first to come across, and do so in style, running in apple cider and vaguely vinegar-like rivulets across the tastebuds. Beneath these sour notes are nice streams of toasted grains and darker malts, with definite hints of vanilla and dark fruit esters, as well as oak from the cask aging. The aftertaste is mostly toasted grains, with hints of sourness. Mouthfeel is light to medium.

The major problem I have with this beer, however, is that the sour notes--even though they seem light at first--prove overwhelming after the first mouthful, deadening the tongue to the point where subsequent sips are almost all sourness. I would have preferred a more balanced ale, or at least one that let more of the flavors come through.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.64/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Amber reddish hue with excellent clarity. A quarter inch of beige head rests on top. Aroma of tart Brett and horse blanket is moderately present. The flavor is somewhat restrained tart Brett and horse blanket along with amber malt. The mouth is fairly carbonated and refreshing.

Photo of pat61
4.25/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Lemony cherry nose with traces of barnyard. Pours brilliant chestnut under a 2” fluffy tannish off-white cap that dissipates to a thick film. A tart lemony citrus cherry palate with traces of chocolate hints of fruitcake. Moderately high finely bubbled carbonation with a medium body. Juicy and refreshing.

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.17/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

One of those murky homebrew looking beers, a mix of a dull red with brown, resulting in a ruby hue to brown liquid that is far from approaching clarity. Aroma is soggy wood and mild sour notes.

Taste, decent, woody pale ale and oud bruin type of mix. Tastes almost exactly like the aged pale, and I believe the label or promo gear states something to that effect that one beer is a percentage of the other. Slight vinegar in the mouthfeel. Kinda thin body, well carbed, underperforms with the sour and tartness, isn't balanced, leans with an american brown ale vibe at times moreso than oud bruin.

If you're buying this for sour factor, you're probably going to be disappointed, unless you truly like it as just one of the elements of a beer, as opposed to a dominant or appreciable element to any sufficient degree.

Photo of ADR
4.1/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Murky clove brown appearance with a nice rising tan head that's slick and creamy. Arching laces. Very sharp aroma, apple vinegar and sport peppers. Interesting flavors, tartness, some sense of raisin and fruitcake and a bit of beef stake. Finishes on a citric note with a bare metallic astringency and a malty catch in the back of the throat. Nicely carbonated, bring some life to what could be too harsh. Interestingly balanced. The small bottle is about the right amount to my tastes, can't say it is remarkably drinkable.

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Petrus Oud Bruin from De Brabandere
83 out of 100 based on 1,199 ratings.