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Schneider Weisse Tap X Aventinus Cuvée Barrique - Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH

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98 Ratings
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Ratings: 98
Reviews: 26
rAvg: 4.04
pDev: 13.61%
Wants: 7
Gots: 30 | FT: 2
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Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 11-24-2013

Re-released in 2014
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Ratings: 98 | Reviews: 26
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Photo of Roguer
4.29/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Very dark brown brew, hazy, with quite a bit of sediment and yeast at the bottom of the bottle. Topped off by a very firm beige head with excellent retention. Lacing quickly slides down in a Weizen glass.

Remarkably sour brown aroma; the French oak barrels really come through clean and sharp. Vinegar and apples, with some dark fruit. Very little of the traditional Weizenbock aroma I would expect.

Flavor is very balanced, full, and complex. Slightly sweet and thickly bready up front, with the sour component coming in mid-palate, and dominating on the back end. Still, sticky fruit bread flavors - from dark fruit (prunes and raisins) to tarter fruit (cherries and raspberries), with quite a bready malt backbone - provide a very solid base throughout.

Lots of vinegar and oak sour flavors, heavy on tannin, light on vanilla. Reminiscent of a thicker, wheatier Flanders red-brown.

Slick mouthfeel, medium length finish, medium bodied. Stuck somewhere between a sipper (as a sour) and more of a gulper (as a Weizen). A little thin up front, but some sticky puckering retention for a brief spell.

This is really a fantastic sour. I have a feeling that if Russian River put this out, its rating would skyrocket. Since it's Aventinus, it's quite an unexpected flavor profile, but damn is it good.

Photo of DIM
4.39/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Aventinus is one of my favorite beers. I was really hoping with would be Aventinus with a slight wine barrel element added. It isn't. This is a Flanders Oud Bruin; and as an Oud Bruin it is phenomenal. Still, I hope someday...

I left the sediment in the bottle, so this was a clear, reddish brown. It poured with a short lived, fizzy white head.

Flanders in the nose, a bit on the subdued side which is fine with me. Strong vinegar aromas but some vibrant berries keep things interesting. Plenty of wine and a surprisingly strong but well incorporated oakiness. No weizenbock here.

This has an approachable level of tartness/sourness, but it isn't lacking in depth in any way. The berry to vinegar ratio was close to even in the nose, but the berries are more prominent on the tongue. The wine barrel notes are not subtle at all, plenty of oak and long, vinous finish. The role of the base weizenbock has been relegated to a chewier than is typical for an Oud Bruin mouthfeel.

I loved this beer as is and if it wasn't around a dollar an ounce I would buy more. God I would love to try a raspberry or cherry infused weizenbock from these wheat wizards someday.

Photo of Budinetz
4.55/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2014 edition. Poured from the bottle into a pilsner glass. Smells of lactobacillus and sweet malts. Pours a dark, murky, olive color, with a white head that dissipates rather quickly. Minimal head retention, but the white film stays around the edges of the glass as I consume. Tastes of sweet, bready malts up front with a beautiful sour, tart finish. Tastes slick in the tongue witj a prickly tartness to follow. Not your normal weizenbock, but pretty awesome if you're into sour beers. I plan on buying more to age.

Cheers!

Photo of BeerIsland
4.05/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

This beer reminded me of the joint venture of Weihenstephan and Samuel Adams making the Infinium which was supposed to "unite a new way of thinking about the world of the American extreme". This is that kind of beer; an attempt to show other brewers that the staid Germans can knock off a geeky item or two, if they want. This is not going to be a chewy kind of beer; more sinewy and balanced. $13 is a lot to pay for about 12 oz's, though.

Photo of Billolick
4.09/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12,5 oz bottle

Sweet n sour... a lot going on here, fruity,more then moderate sour notes, ample maple malts.

Complex and robustly flavorful.. Nice winter nightcap

Photo of olradetbalder
3.21/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

unballanced between sweet and sour. Cannot really put my finger on it.

Photo of aidman
4.52/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

An absolute torrent of complexities and tastes. It would take a long time to understand this one. There's definitely a strong wine component to it, which is pretty interesting

Photo of fourstringer
4.17/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a Brewer's Art goblet. Moderate hand. No specific date on the bottle, but 2013 vintage. Label lists this at 9.5% ABV.

A: Very murky, apple cider-brown that I liken to instant iced tea with too much powder. 1/2 finger off-white head with ok retention. Persistent coating. Minimal lacing.

S: Delightful lactic/citric acid sourness with minimal acetic acid notes. Lemon, sour cherry. Mild oaky notes with a earthy quality. Light funk.

T: Appealing and pronounced sour, very well integrated with the more aged, oaky notes. A mild bitterness in the aftertaste, but otherwise very light on the hops. Alcohol is very well hidden. Semi-dry finish with a round element of wood. Tart fruit predominates, but there is a trace of clove, banana, wheat-type flavors.

M: Moderate to light carbonation with moderate to full body. Really fits the sour well.

O: As one who thoroughly enjoys a sour brew, this was exactly what I was hoping for. Reminiscent of Boulevards Love Child #3 with a more European vibe. Granted, I didn't get a whole lot of the base beers in this, but I'd have to say the end product is pretty damn delicious. Recommended if you dig on sours.

Prost!

Photo of smakawhat
4.43/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a wheat ale glass. Vintage 2014, smaller 12.5 oz bottle.

Creamy one finger head with little retention, but thick and even all around. Settles to a flat half finger top and puck, sitting on a deep opaque and mahogany brown body, quite deep colored when held to the light. Some minimal rising carbonation but otherwise a bit quiet.

Real nice aroma. Dry farmhouse moderate funk and earth notes. Lots of big notes of cherry and pepper qualities, lots of hinting woody splinter and sawdusty character too. Chewy grain sensing, quite nice and appealing.

Oh man does this palate deliver. Excellent incredible mouthfeel, the perfect amount of cream and thickness just coating everywhere, giving a hint of vanilla and sweetness. Nice mild oud bruin like funk but with a much more caramel notes and softness. Mid palate washes in a much more toned down but wonderful sour cherry note that compliments the creamy qualities nicely. Finish is rich and lush, with a big bursting red berried cherry and raspberry sweet tones that just come out like clotted cream and strawberries. Mild pepper finish as well to take with it as well.

An absolutely fantastic brew and one unique creation, these guys are doing great with these one offs takes on German styles.

Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.09/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Bottle purchased at Nathaniel Square Corner Store.

Pours a syrupy looking dark reddish brown, with no head, or lacing.

Smells really strongly wine-forward, with tons of dark fruit, some lactic acid, and a bit of funk.

The barreling completely transforms this one- it tastes basically nothing like Aventinus or Aventinus Eisbock. It's a wonderful sweet dark sour, tons of dark fruit, some cherry and raisin, with vanilla, and tons of red wine flavor, with some lactic acid, and a slight balsamic vinegary tanginess lingering on the lips at the end of each sip.

This is medium bodied, with a slightly syrupy mouthfeel, and a lower level of carbonation.

A really interesting, unique, and complex beer. Crazy that something like this comes from a German brewery- shows that some German breweries are willing to go way outside the traditional box.

Photo of safaricook
4.39/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Good stuff. Reminiscent of a flanders bruin but more subtle in tartness and oak. Very balanced. Great sipper. Get it if you can.

Photo of zac16125
4.66/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

small bottle (can’t find size, looks smaller than a 500mL but bigger than a 12oz;)
poured into a Teku
Vintage 2014

A: Dark mahogany, so dark its opaque, just under 1 fingers width of white colored head dissipates away quickly and leaves essentially zero lacing. 4

S: A big sourness, tart fruit, lactic citrus, vinous notes, champagne like, oak, subtle booze. Some sweetness in the form of dark fruits, and subtle caramel/toffee. A bit of burnt plastic like funkiness. Wow, what a nose on this one. 4.75

T: A wonderful combination of sour and sweet. A pretty big degree of sourness, but not quite puckering. A bit of plastic like funk. Dark fruit sweetness. Vinous white grapes, champagne like. Oaky notes on the finish. Tart cherry. Complex. Delicious. 4.75

M/D: Medium body, carbonation very low and could stand to be a bit higher, ABV is exceptionally well masked, would never had guessed this was pushing double digits, dry on the finish, drinkability is excellent. 4.25

O: One of the best beer’s I’ve had all year. Gonna hopefully pick up a couple more for the cellar. 4.75

Photo of mandanss
4.89/5  rDev +21%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Wow what an amazing experience, who would thought that taking a fine soured Weiss and adding it too Chardonnay barrels in this case barrique to give a completely new ale experience.

Photo of Ysgard
4.82/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

I've had 4 or 5 bottles over the last year, as I occasionally happen across a shop that still has them. All but the first were sour, I'm not at all certain what the intention on this was. The first bottle may have been the one listed as Mein Cuvee Barrique that appears to have come out in 2012.

This review will be for the sour versions.

A: Murky brown, with a velvety looking head that settles to lace but never disappears. One of the things about the best old world beers that always impresses is how they seem to have the protein/starch profile just right to get the bubbles stable without turning them too sticky.

S: Wow. Definitely touches of lactic and a fainter acetic acid. Oaky vanillins, muted spice and rummy banana's foster way in the back. A touch of sweet apple, and some dark berry. A tiny touch of something sulfur, very very light, and not at all offensive.

T: Sour married to dark fruit, on an oak raft in a sea of malt. This really is lovely. Kind of bigger than a flanders red or even an oude bruin, but balanced like the best of the flanders reds, very drinkable, with no component overpowering the others. A light toffee nutty flavor also threads through, complementing the oak, and mellowing the sour.

M: Velvet, with oak sugar drying and inviting you to drink more. The body stands to the acid, and carries it home.

O: I'll continue to buy these at $20 until I can't ever find them again.

Photo of Chessmaster
1.9/5  rDev -53%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A - Hazy, sickly looking purple-ish color. Minimal head which quickly dissipated to nothing

S - Vinegary, with strong wood-resin undertones. Like smelling sawdust in a workshop

T - Extremely tart, with off-putting wood resin notes. Extremely vinous, even vinegary.

M - Average

O - One of the worst tasting beers I've ever encountered. Perhaps it is just not my style, but I would never drink this foul tasting beverage ever again.

Photo of Hex92
2.37/5  rDev -41.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Good God what have they done. Aventinus is wonderful, the eisbock is amazing. This abomination is horrible. What waste of money. I was hoping for something out of the ordinary, and I got it. Just not in a good way. Way too sour, none of that Aventinus flavor.

If you like sour beers, buy it. If not, AVOID this beer.

Photo of corby112
1.79/5  rDev -55.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours a very cloudy and very dark chestnut brown color with mahogany edges and a three finger, frothy beige head that very slowly settles into a lasting ring. Very good retention with streaks and spots if soapy lace left behind.

Earthy, slightly acetic aroma with a strong barrel character that somewhat overpowers the characteristics of the base beers. Prominent charred oak and very vinous with strong dark fruit sweetness followed by some bready yeast, peppery spice and chocolate malt. The red wine barrels really stand out with hints of damp oak, grape, currant, sour cherry, plum and other dark berries. The blend also gives off a slightly distracting and unpleasant acetone/chemical scent, hiding what is most pleasant about Aventinus. Underneath, there is some sweeter dark malt notes along with sourdough bread, banana and zesty clove but I wish that these elements were stronger in the nose.

Whoa, this beer is a huge acetone bomb! So much so that it almost completely overwhelms all of the other flavors. Harsh, solvent like and very tough to drink with lots of chemical flavor and vinegar. There's some decent barrel flavor, mostly dry oak and sweet vinous fruit but the acetic acid is so overpowering, it kills off most of the pleasant flavors. Nothing about the base beers stand out except for some boozy sweetness and alcohol burn. I like that they are experimenting but this beer is pretty much an undrinkable mess.

Photo of mobrado
2.86/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Weizenbock elements are overpowered by a vinegary acidity. The flavors just don't come together to create a pleasant whole. Interesting to try, but overpriced.

Photo of drpimento
3.57/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Had much higher hopes for this as I love its 2 component beers. Upon opening at a good temperature with a nice "pop", there was an appealing aroma of caramel, vanilla, and balsamic vinegar. Poured with a small, thick, creamy, tan head that soon vanished and no lace. Color is a very hazy brown. Sticking my schnoz in the glass yielded besides the above, leather, fruit, and spice. Flavor's similar to nose with tart up front, then bittersweet. Body is good, but carbonation is low. Finish is like flavor, average length, has alcohol warmth. I like the base beers much better.

Photo of BMMillsy
4.06/5  rDev +0.5%

2014 bottle, notes that this is aged in Chardonnay barrels (unlike the other versions, I think which were aged in Pinot barrels). Pours deep dark brown with a tinge of red on the edges and ahalf finger of off white head that recedes quickly. Aroma is tart and vinous, with some paint thinner notes, vinegar, plums, acidic in my nostrils. Flavor is sour black cherries, heavy wine notes, clean finish leaving a lightly tart, dry oaky finish on the palate. Heavier for a sour, in the Flanders range of brews, with some light yet prickly carbonation. This was pretty good, but also quite a detour from Aventinus.

Photo of shleepy
3.5/5  rDev -13.4%

Intense and barrely. Lots of cherry and oak. Quite acidic, very boozy. Not worth the money.

Photo of dcmchew
4.6/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

2013 edition. Poured hazy copper-brown, quite a "muddy" colour to it. Just a little bit of sticky lacing.
Huge smell of musty red grapes/red wine, with sour cherries, vanilla, apple cider and a light caramel.
Sourness balanced with red wine tannins. Lots of berries, sour cherries, red/white grapes, red apple, lemon zest and raisin. Faint banana. Huge tartness, a balsamic vinegar that doesn't feel bad in the slightest, and supports the fruitiness really nice. Malts are light. Big barrel notes, lots of oak chips, somewhat smoked, the main star of the beer, really complex and rich. Spices are typical, with nice vanilla and pretty faint clove. Hoppy bitterness is low in the finish, leaving place for a nice dry fruity finish, like in a good red wine.
Not heavy on the yeasts (a bit noticeable at the last pour), this is a great showcasing for barrique barrel aged beers, nothing else takes center stage. It even cancels the expected chunkiness and heavy wheat of the weizen. A bit watery really.
A beer that shows complexity in barrel aging that you can rarely find. People might say that it lacks character, relying on the fact that it's a tart bomb, but the pairing(s) of TAP 6 & Eisbock and the barriques seems perfectly crafted. Top grades.

Photo of soulgrowl
3.27/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

It's Aventinus dressed up in Flemish red clothing.

Lovely tea-brown, murky but not opaque, with a loudly volatile cap of stained ivory foam. A hint of rouge shines through the beer as it pours, but can't be seen in the glass. Smells distinctly Flemish reddish, rather than Weizenbockish, with lots of leather and oak and rooibos and hints of prunes, Balsamic vinegar, and cherry shisha.

The flavor is decidedly – and disappointingly, in my opinion – skewed towards the standard profile of a Flemish red. Very tart, like cranberries and rhubarb, with a hint of Christmassy orange-cinnamon spice, and darker things lurking beneath; mostly oak, leather, red wine-ish tannins, damp leaves, and prune juice. It's nice... but it would be nicer if it actually tasted more like the Aventinus we all know and love. Imagine those sour-earthy Flemish flavors melded together with ordinary Aventinus's bouquet of rum raisins, banana bread, and clove – I can't help but feel a little let down when none of those flavors are there. It's also lacks the lush Aventinus mouthfeel. Instead of being chewy and soft, this is thin with astringent carbonation.

As a Flemish red – yeah, not bad. As a Weizenbock, particularly one as world-class as Aventinus? Disappointing. Next time, I might buy the normal Aventinus and a Duchesse de Bourgogne and mix them myself.

Photo of cjgiant
3.87/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

On tap:
Not sure what I expected from this beer, but right or wrong, what I got was not it.

Ruby-brown pour, cloudy, with a minimal amount of head. Alcohol lacing is present but fleeting, some legs present. Aroma struck with obvious tartness of a sour. Maybe it's the BA that imparts this. Lemon, hint of sour milk (maybe), farmhouse scents in the background (this is German, right?).

Nice toasted malt undercurrent to the beginning, but the sour takes over. Truthfully, I'd think this was an Oud Bruin before a Weizenbock. There is plum, medium tart apple, some wine tannin tartness and dryness. Feel is rather flat, but medium bodied, and slightly puckering.

This is a very good tart beer, not overpowering in its sour, but not shy about it. Definitely not what I expected, so I rated slightly lower than I actually enjoyed it. Be forewarned or intrigued.

Photo of neurobot01
4.04/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

750ml 2013 edition into a Perfect Pint glass at fridge temp, allowed to warm.

Look: reddish caramel, fairly syrupy, with a small tan head that dissipates within a few minutes.

Smell: apple cider vinegar, oak, caramel. A bit reminiscent of Rodenbach Vintage 2011.

Taste: tart fresh apple, oak, bitterness, a lot of sweetness (almost like cream). Has a rounded softness. Not sure everything is completely coming together, though it's getting better as it warms.

Feel: feel is medium to heavy. Good, but unremarkable.

Overall: I had this a while ago and remember having been more impressed. As it is, it's good, but some of the tart/bitter elements detract more than they add. Will see if a little age evens things out at all.

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Schneider Weisse Tap X Aventinus Cuvée Barrique from Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH
90 out of 100 based on 98 ratings.