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Schneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse - Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH

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Ratings: 1,087
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rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 11.03%
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Gots: 39 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Schneider version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ Hallertauer Saphir.

(Beer added by: John_M on 07-16-2007)
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Slynger

Illinois

3.98/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy dark orange gold in color with tons of whitish, slightly yellow, bubbly head.
Smells of lemon, clove, wheat, and yeast.
Very carbonated. Bold, yeasty, spicy, and wheaty with a healthy lemon citrus showing.
This beer is well balanced, bold, and tasty. It is good, just not quite what I had in mind based on my only previous experience with a weizenbock, the outstanding Aventinus.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2007 21:48:27 | More by Slynger
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Dogbrick

Ohio

4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled at the Odds and Ends Tasting II on 10/19/07: Hazy amber-gold color with a medium off-white head that dissipates slowly. Stringy lacing. Citrusy hops, wheat and spice aroma. Medium, clean body with wheat, earthy malt and fruit flavors. Light spice underneath as well. The finish is fruity and lingering with a banana and clove aftertaste. All around good beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2007 19:56:29 | More by Dogbrick
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one poured with a giant, off-white head composed of pillowy foam. Good retention with plenty of lacing that started spotty, then became fairly solid and clumpy towards the end of the glass. The beer itself was a hazy butterscotch colour. The nose was spicy with fragrant floral hops and a lemony citrus character. Was there a hint of pine? Maybe. Malt was in the background, providing some depth. Mild bitterness with a hint of alcohol. Hops were alternately spicy and citrusy, but always fairly intense. There was also a banana fruitiness and a hint of vanilla. Hops lingered well into the finish. Medium bodied with a bit of slickness. Carbonation started fairly high, then settled down to a more reasonable (drinkable) level quite quickly. Mild warmth too. This stuff is tasty. A great experiment that worked much better than I expected.

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2007 18:09:44 | More by DrJay
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msubulldog25

Oregon

4.38/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A 500mL/16.9 oz. bottle, one of two procured from AdamB84. As we don't own a weizen glass (yet), this poured to a pair of stanges. Without much fanfare, this is Review #500 for me...

A: Sadly, this was NOT my most skillfully executed pour ever; I clumsily split this one between 8 oz. of lightly hazy sunset orange and 8 oz. of noticeably murkier dingy tan. A bit of the darker added to the lighter, and I have something worth beholding - a warmly cloudy concoction of bread-crust orange capped with a gigantic fluffy white head, at least 3 fingers worth of pillowy goodness. Sticky bits of lace speckle the glass.

S: Rich malty/yeasty aroma tinged with clove and banana, with an enticing addition of fresh, spicy Hallertauer hops. Sweet yeast esters combined with this tangier hopping make for a wonderful intermingled fragrance surprisingly reminiscent of some Belgian hopped beers (Urthel Hop-It, Poperings, Houblon Chouffe) - just not quite as big...

T: Yes! Loads of malty bread married with spicy, grassy hops. The results are a bit sharp and tart at first, but mellow and blend as the beer warms. This really is like the 'liquid bread' that beer is likened to so often; in this case a warm sourdough. Terrific balance.

M: Medium body but with a thickening graininess that builds with each sip. Soft carbonation gives a velvety mouthfeel, with a mild bittering holding on the center of the tongue. Alcohol, at over 8%, is enticingly warming.

D: A very enjoyable beer...not surprising as it partners two excellent breweries that make a couple of my all-time favorite beers (Aventinus and Black Chocolate Stout). The Hopfen-Weisse is a skillfully crafted mash-up that is an interesting twist on the weizenbock style (which happens to be among my favorites). Quite drinkable, but watch the sneaky alcohol. Highly recommended - I'm glad to have another bottle in the cellar!

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2007 02:37:59 | More by msubulldog25
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malty

Michigan

4.85/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Gently rolled on counter top a few minutes as to release yeast stuck to bottom of bottle.

Pours a super cloudy tan-orange (looks just like a Brach's milk caramel square). Blossoming dense 2" head that just a shade darker than white (ultra light cream colored). Airy, thick globular lace all the way down the glass.

The aroma is divine. Cloves - check. Banana - check. Bubblegum - check. Yeasty esters - check. Hoppy spice - check. Wait, hops in my hefe, YES! With a name like hopfen-weisse, I'm cautiously intrigued cause' this isn't something you'd normally find in a wheat beer. I'm anxious as all-get-out to try it though!

Wow, the flavors mentioned above all translate perfectly, but there's a lot more revealed after a few good quaffs. The citrus element quite often found in the yeast strain of a good hefe is complimented brilliantly with the citrus-floral component from the hops used in this wheat beer. The bitter dryness from the hops gives this beer a gentle crispy edge, which allows every dimension of the multitude of flavors to be clearly showcased. There's also a minty underpinning towards the end of this unorthodox, yet lovely barrage of flavors. The balance of the sweet, malty, hoppy & dry all dance flawlessly together.

Mouthfeel is what you'd expect from a high quality hefe; medium bodied (with a little malt traction) and a playful amount of carbonation as to keep the flavors dancing.

Drinkability is perfect. The hops bring a quality dry finish to the long lasting, lingering flavorful finish.

A spectacular collaboration of two continents from two evidently passionate and knowledgeable brewers. I'm utterly blown away from what I just experienced. I know FFF has their hoppy wheat Gumballhead - which is quite fine, but this pairing between Brooklyn & Schneider sets the bar for anyone interested in brewing a hoppy hefe with some staying power (over 8% abv). Off the charts superb!

Serving type: bottle

12-09-2007 19:29:22 | More by malty
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.15/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Somewhere between banana and orange with no visible yeast (yet) and a wealth of fine carbonation. I expected something darker and murkier. The firm, pale ecru crown is nicely persistent, but isn't sticky enough to leave more than a few sudsy splotches on the glass. Subsequent pours blur things a little and create a hugely rocky head.

The nose seems excessively sour. I'm more tolerant of that characteristic here than I will be on the palate. It features tangy wheat, creamed banana and zesty clove spice... those last two being less than aggressive. I prefer the dark weizenbocks, the ones that contain dark fruit (bruised banana, maybe even dates), caramel and a little smoke.

Hopfen-Weisse is acceptable beer, although it contains more medicinal phenols than it should. It's as if the brewers added a wee dram of Islay whisky prior to bottling. Thankfully, the more traditional characterstics of the beer are easily appreciated in and around the phenols. I might have spoken too soon. Warming accentuates the Band-Aid flavors rather than softening them. In addition, the alcohol provides a heat that shouldn't be present.

In addition to being tart, the beer is too bitter. This many hops have no place in a weizenbock as far as I'm concerned. More hop flavor would have been welcome, but the hop bitterness seems out of proportion to the flavor. Banana, and especially clove, are still noted. As in the nose, however, they're in the background rather than the foreground.

The body/mouthfeel is okay in terms of heft (closer to medium than to light), but the beer is too harshly carbonated. More full, more creamy smooth and less bubbled would be preferable. Be careful what you wish for because the bottom of the bottle borders on flat.

I love a really good weizenbock. Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse, although decent, isn't a very good weizenbock. I'm sure the brewers had fun with the collaboration, but I wish they had been able to give us something more impressive than this.

Serving type: bottle

11-29-2007 15:04:33 | More by BuckeyeNation
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orbitalr0x

Illinois

3.78/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours into my glass a hazy dark yellow with a creamy two finger head and lots of active carbonation with some patches of lacing. Aromas start with somewhat toasted grains that quickly gives way to a blast of spicy, herbal hops. Yeast, cloves and a touch of fruitiness. The noble hops really lead the way here and mask much of the standard weiss aromas. Interesting.

First sip brings a toasted grain maltiness with a hint of caramel. It's easily overshadowed though by a huge spicy, herbal hop flavor. Somewhat floral as well and quite unique. As it flows down there's a nice yeasty hit with some cloves and a fruity aspect as well. Finishes with a sturdy hop bitterness and a lingering hop flavor. An interesting weizenbock without a doubt.

Mouthfeel is on the lighter side with huge carbonation that makes it a bit prickly and adds some creaminess at the same time. Goes down pretty easily. Overall, this one just doesn't really grab me, maybe I'm not a fan of this particular hop. Either way it's an interesting collaboration with a big punch of hops. It's still worth trying at least once if you can find it.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2007 06:27:56 | More by orbitalr0x
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mobud

Delaware

3.98/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into SA glass.

A- Dark gold wheat beer that is cloudy and has a nice, but overly large head.

S- Like a good wheat beer with a strong hop underpinning.

T- A delicious combo of a strong wheat base with a fair amount of hops on the backside. The alcohol was a little more than what I expected, but good none the less.

M- Medium to heavy.

D- Nice as a change to my regular favorites, but not a beer I would run out to get everyday. I know this was a collaboration, but I do not know if they intent to bring it out again. I enjoyed the chance to try this beer and would have liked to have tried it on tap.

Serving type: bottle

11-13-2007 22:42:55 | More by mobud
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tavernjef

Minnesota

4.53/5  rDev +11%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Gorgeously opaqued in a heavy cloud of dark gold. Massive, fluffy, shiny, crunchy looking off-whitish foam sits and hardly moves from its place once its poured. Keeps a head about it for superior strength and length. Impressive. The lacing is covered in all sorts of thickly shelved webbings.

Big wheaty aroma with fine hints to banana, orange, pineapple, and other citrusy peels that are perhaps a bit over ripened and soggy. Quite a big and complexingly delight of fun fruityness on the nose.

Flavors are bold and ripe with fruity tropical punch and wheaty tang that start out well but pale out after a while and become a heavy faction of wheat toned tang and orangey/banana mush. Which isn't bad mind you, but it seemed to lose its complexity a bit as it went along. But damn if it isn't good. The extra pithy character of yeast and hops is quite unique and bright. Making for a nice tropical bite in the finish.

Feel is just over medium with a huge wheaty base and tang of tropical fruit goodness and partailly parching bite and bitteness of pith and peels. Big on the orange character with a twist of pine, grapefruit. lime, and lemon.

What a fun beer to enjoy. Big, fruity, wheaty, and hopped up with a delightful gleem of tropical sensations. A very nice concoction between Brooklyn Brewing and Schneider Weiss!

Big thanks to Mr.J at Dennis Bros for throwing this into the mix on my latest purchase!

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2007 22:21:08 | More by tavernjef
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3.75/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

17oz. bottle I believe

After final pour, a very hazy, brown/yellow liquid filled my glass. Capped by a large, creamy, white head.

Aroma was herbal, with a strong scent of clove. Floral notes and citrus - orange.

Taste was a pretty big burst of hops, citrus up front and grassy at the finish. More bitter than sweet. Clove flavor was quite strong. Other herbal notes I can't name. Yeasty/crackery in the middle. Sweetens a bit with some warmth, but not significantly. Alcohol very well hidden.

Medium body. Medium + carbonation (not as much as expected vs. head from pour -- very big, almost an overflow). Very refreshing.

Very interesting, a super hoppy wheat. I did like the absence/suppression of banana flavors, but that might be a draw back if you are concerned about style purity.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2007 18:29:26 | More by
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genog

Ohio

3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an orange color with a rocky and fizzy white head with a lot of lacing that sticks around. Smell is of citrus and some grains. Mostly the smell is of spices like coriander more. I can also smell some dried fruits like apple and cherry. Taste is sweet and long finish. Watery body, with a strong alcohol presence.

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2007 00:46:26 | More by genog
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Domingo

Colorado

3.53/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I'm a big fan of both brewers, but I think this collaboration is lesser than the sum of it's parts.
Pours a cloudy tan color. It's darker than the pale weizenbocks I've had, but it's certainly not dark by any means. Head is large and rocky. As you work your way through this, the head laces the glass and sticks around until the end.
The smell is hoppy, alcoholic...and the yeast reminds me a little of a Belgian beer.
The flavor also reminiscent of a Belgian brew. It's got big hops up front, followed by a wave of yeast, a little clove and alcohol, and there are more hops in the finish. I'm not picking up much of the typical banana flavors although the clove comes out more as it warms. I think the hops are pretty much killing most of the wheat flavors, although I pick them up here and there as it warms. I'd say this is like a cross between an American wheat and a dubbel with a bunch of hops tossed in.
Mouthfeel is appropriately thick, but it has a little bit of a boozy burn to it.
One bottle's plenty although this brew admittedly grows on you once it warms. Served cool I was thinking it might be a dud.
I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I love how unique it is, but it ends up coming off in a direction I wasn't really all that fond of. Cheers to innovation, but I'm hoping the Brooklyn variety is a little closer to a normal weizenbock.

EDIT: Had this again at the Weissesbrauhaus in Munich. Poured from a bottle...but that bottle was dated as being filled 4 days earlier. Can't do much better than that. Maybe my palate has changed a bit, maybe it was a nice change from all of the normal German beers I'd had, or maybe the beer has been tweaked for the German market. Irregardless, I really, really enjoyed it this time around.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2007 02:36:39 | More by Domingo
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Bitterbill

Wyoming

3.85/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Purchased online from Vintage Cellars.

This pours from 500ml bottle a murky orange with a huge head of foam that settles down after some time to a fine layer and it has some lacing. My last pour and it really got dark and murky. It kind of reminds me of some homebrews that I've had(and made) before.

The smell is fruity with some wheat and a nice hoopy nose in the background.

The taste has a good malty and wheaty flavour to it that borders on sweet but that doesn't happen because of a grassy and somewhat citrusy hop bitterness. I'm tasting fruit here as well...orange zest is what I'm sensing the most. Also noticing some clove but it's on the mild side. Pretty flavourful beer and quite different from the Weizenbocks I've had in the past. Duh. It *is* called Hopfen Weisse and for a good reason. Plenty of hop character to be found here. Good effort by all involved in making this one.

Edit: Towards the end of the session, it got really spicy...lots of pepper in the flavour. Good stuff!

Serving type: bottle

10-25-2007 22:58:21 | More by Bitterbill
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RonfromJersey

New Jersey

3.13/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Cloudty, hazy pale orange body, topped by a high columnof off-white swiss-cheesed foam.

Nose has little bits of banana and clove, and a big squirt of lemon at the center.

On the tongue, a splash of sweet malt, then a stiff brush of wheat. Undercoat of lemon, which rises at the finish. Very mild spice note. Clean finish. Slight alcohol note. Just doesn't seem to come together.

Mediumish mouthfeel, solid, almost too solid. Creamy even.

Drinkability isn't impaired by anything, its just ok.

Maybe expectations were too high, but overall a letdown. Tastes just never quite came together, a case of the sum being less than the parts perhaps. Not saying the brewers shouldn't try again by any means.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2007 20:44:49 | More by RonfromJersey
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MarkSCCOT

South Carolina

3.78/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 0.5l bottle obtained at Brawley's into my Ayinger Weizen Glass.

A. Poured a nice hazy yellow amber with a healthy 2 finger head and moderate lacing.

S. Great fruity yeasty smell that I have come to equate with Schneider's brews. One of my favorites. There is an after smell of nive noble hops.

T. This is where I was a little disappointed. I greatly enjoy the almost grape-like aroma of Schneider's yeast in all their product (Aventinus and Aventinus Eisbock esp.). In this case the bouquet was blunted by the noble hops, without the noble hops taking front stage in a brew such as say..Sam Adams Imperial Hallertau. In this case I believe that the effort to maintain a balanced brew failed.

M. Moderate carbonation with a clean finish.

D. Still pretty drinkable despite the abv. Honetsly though, I would pass and have an Aventinus.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2007 00:54:24 | More by MarkSCCOT
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Nipitato

Massachusetts

4.25/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle at Julio’s in Westborough, MA.

A: Dark gold. It looks thick. Hazy and turbid. Pours with a huge white head that drops to a thin capping. Not moussy.

S: One hell of a good nose on this beer. A rich aroma. Overripe bananas, bubble gum and a big peppery and clove aroma. Bready, grainy aroma is weak compared to the stronger yeast aromas.

T: Prominent clove/peppery phenols dominate flavor. Banana esters are noticeable but not as much as in the nose. A really nice overall flavor. Slightly grainy and yeasty. The beer has a noticeable lingering aftertaste.

MF: Medium light body for a Weizenbock with low carbonation. Smooth.

D: A very good beer. Brooklyn Brewery and G. Oliver are leading the way with these US/European collaborations. If this is the type of beer that is a result I am in full support of this trend. This beer is well balanced, complex (a lot going on in this beer) and quite drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

10-22-2007 23:13:06 | More by Nipitato
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BradLikesBrew

Missouri

4.2/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a - thick white head slowly settles with excellent lacing. Opaque, cant see my finger on the other side of the glass. orange/caramel color

s - sweet, slightly fruity, orange perhaps

t - starts sweet, then comes honey/wheat/yeast, then hops. little bitterness, but good hop flavor consistent with dry-hopping. dry finish.

m - thick, rich, nice carbonation

d - its no session beer, but it is delicious. A bit to filling, sweet, and rich to have more than 1.

overall, a very interesting experiment. I have not experienced a dry hopped wheat beer before and I really like the result. Hope they do this again.

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2007 23:07:51 | More by BradLikesBrew
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Phatz

Pennsylvania

4.03/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: pours a golden color with a partly transparent body and a huge white head that flowed out over the op of my Brooklyn Flute Glass.

Smell: huge phenolic yeast flavors with banana wood butter and spice. A lemony citrus bitterness and floral perfume is also present.

Taste: Lots of lemon and herbal tea with a unique minty/hop/pine mix with the typical banana clove flavors of a Weizenbock. Starts with lots of strawberry banana, honey and cloves (coriander too) and finishes very minty with lemon drops and Hauls and ginger spice. The mid is a bit sweet on the fruit-salad side but [head shaking] interesting.

Mouthfeel: Rich and thick. A substantial sugar and sweet maltyness on the tongue gives it a sticky feel. maybe a little too much so. Nice carbonation level though.

Drinkability: I did not find this sweet chaos to be very refreshing. It is terrifically interesting but as a drinkable session beer, I think not. Half the bottle and I am quite done, though very happy to have given it a shot.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2007 23:54:33 | More by Phatz
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4.1/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I liked the Brooklyner-Schneider a little better than this version, and tap seems better than bottled, but either way a nice pair of beers and a great collaboration. Something that I hope we see a whole lot more of even if it is a bit confusing. Poured a cloudy dark golden, even darker andd cloudier if you add the sediment. Very fluffy big white head. The smell has very pleasing aromas of banana, coriander, alcohol, and fresh grain. The taste is a bit sharper and spicy with more coriander, earthy hops, pepper, and just the barest touch of banana. There is an herbal grassiness that finishes it. Mouthfeel starts a little prickly but turns smooth. A little hot still, should even out a bit in the bottle.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2007 14:52:13 | More by Georgiabeer
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doubleipa

Georgia

3.43/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Frothy, off-white head. Hazy, amber apperance. Light hops, grass, some banaba, and some clove. aroma. Very long finish. Definitely taste the alcohol. Really had to search for the hops. Unless I'm missing something, I had this in a bottle here in Georgia.

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2007 12:35:07 | More by doubleipa
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plaid75

New York

4.35/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a medium straw hue with a two finger creamy white head. There was very good retention and sticky lacing.

The smell featured powerful yeast esters and a citrusy hop aroma.

The taste was upfront spicy wheat and estery yeast. Elements of cloves, anise and grapefruit materialized. A nice peppery spice appeared at the finish.

The mouthfeel was toward the full side with a strong residual spiciness.

Overall a very interesting and extremelt complex beer. Relatively easy to drink considering the strong esters and robust ABV.

Serving type: growler

10-12-2007 02:17:10 | More by plaid75
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Bierman9

New Hampshire

4.33/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I had a 0.5l bottle (3.50EU) of this new creation while at the Weißes Brauhaus in München on 26Sep07. Little tent-cards on each table promote its availability.

Poured a cloudy, dull, dark golden color into my hefeweizen-style glass. Starts with a 1" white, mousse-like head, then slowly ebbs, all along leaving great lace behind. Bottle has some yeasties which, when added near the end, cloud things up further. Different combo of aromas at play here: citrus and banana plus clove. Odd to get the west-coast hop character in this type of bier, though I guess this type can't really be pigeon-holed right now. It is almost rindy, as well. Solid medium body, and fairly smooth on the tongue, with minimal carbo-prickliness.

Has some crisp, dry wheatiness to start, some banana, and is then followed by a healthy dose of hopping. Again, it is citrus-like and rindy, with underlying noble aspects. Uses the new Sapphir hop, and has a good bite to it; sharp as well as citrussy. Has touches of a Weizen, an IPA, and even a suggestion of Hellbock, to me. Very tasty; yes quite! Though a different combo, it is very drinkable.

Zum Wohl!!

overall: 4.25
appearance: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | mouthfeel: 4 | drinkability: 4.5

1015

Serving type: bottle

10-06-2007 16:48:33 | More by Bierman9
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cokes

Wisconsin

1.83/5  rDev -55.1%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Swamp water, opaque, muddy, yellowed tan with a large-pocked, everlasting pile of dirty snow fed by erupting geysers of bubbles.

It looks sorta good, at least. It's also looks like storm sewer discharge, but that's not so out of style parameters.

Talc and crushed aspirin hit the nose first and hardest, then keeping its sere and acrid lean, it drifts towards rusted tin. Lemon and dandelion come next. A tenebrous doughiness provides the only glint of malt. It doesn't even hint at being a weizenbock, aroma-wise- and I can enjoy a hopped-up version of anything, with hallertauers being amongst my favorite varietals- this quite simply smells like a junkyard sprinkled with pills.
There's a thin crust pizza dough maltiness that is the first entrant in the mouth. It turns richer and doughier with a vague approximation of under-baked banana bread. But banana is never truly a feature, and the wheat (which should be paramount here) barely ekes out traces of dough. Likewise, the weizen yeast is far too subtle or too far over-matched. There is no clove, no pepper, no anything. A whelp of lemon precedes a weed and alum drenched hop closure. It rides out and lingers crushingly of rusted metal, with further caustic medicinals. Acrid, atonal, and just utterly abysmal. Nothing works together here, and the hops are just downright uncouth and full of negative flavors, even if not overbearingly loud, they are just amazingly disjointed.
The body is a thickened medium with a staunch carbonation. It's a frame that could work, and it is probably the one thing here that keeps me from dumping it.
But even yet this teeters on totally undrinkablity, the clownish hops marginalize the malt and yeast traits (which isn't much of a feat, given that both of the later are non-entities). Let me reiterate; This is a weizenbock without significant contributions for yeast or malt. If the hopping worked well, it be a less of an issue, though it would still be a significant if not fatal flaw. But the hops don't, and not by a long shot, as they only add to this wreckage.
With two solid brewers, someone should have stood up and stated the obvious:
This is thoroughly fucked.
Let's try again.

Serving type: bottle

10-05-2007 07:43:53 | More by cokes
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xthemystic

Massachusetts

4.65/5  rDev +14%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours with a nice head that settles down to 1/2 inch. Sticks to the glass in a foamy, not lacy manner. Looks really nice, like freshly pressed juice. Unfiltered, it has a dirty orange color that looks like orange or passionfruit juice.

S - Follows the look, this smeels of grapefruit and passion fruit up front, with the grapefruit tinge on the nose, then sweet and deep with a floral hop character that comes from the American influence on this style. Overall, smells like a delicious over-ripe citrus fruit/grapefruit.

T - Yum! Very much grapefruit for this beer all over! Tastes bitter upfront with a delicate sweetness behind, like a grapefruit. Mixed in are some cloves, bananas, cream. A thin and sharp edge of hops comes in right before a nice alcohol finish that doesn't overpower, but lingers with the fruit flavors. Overall, very deep flavor.

M - Feels full and thick going in and down.

D - Pretty nice beer. If it's really warm out, i think this could be a beer that one might have a couple of, but i fear that the mouthfull of fruit, sweetness, bitterness, and hops might be too much for a session beer.

Overall impression is that this is a wonderful beer. Got to try this next to the American-brewed version at the German beer fest and that first impression found me thinking that this version was more balanced and rich than the one brewed here, but i'll have to try a bottle to justify that claim. So, this tastes, smells, and looks like grapefruit all over to me. It also, in the look, mouthfeel, taste, and smell, has something carnal to it. I dare say while it doesn't smell or taste really "musky" i almost chose that term due to the deep nature of this beer. Definately recommended!

Serving type: bottle

10-04-2007 20:38:11 | More by xthemystic
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Foxman

New Jersey

3.78/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

It pours a mostly clear and dutifully carbonated orange gold. Two insistent fingers of puffy, fluffy white head sustain well. There's not so much lacing as sloping crater-lips of foam built up at the edges.

In the aroma, an understated sweet grain note whispers caramel, and the wheat is earthy, but it's the esters bringing ripe bananas and clove that meet with grassy, peppery hops to spring open one's eyes. Biscuit and a hint of alcohol drift at the periphery.

Upon sipping, a grainy sweetness is somewhat muddled, with blurred toasted malt and tangy wheat struggling to assert. Banana and cream and a less distinct spiciness precede a raw, grassy hop presence that wants to be peppery but instead comes off as weedy. The alcohol is more poignant and medium warm. The finish doesn't really finish so much as it slams a moderate but blatantly contrary bitterness down in the middle of the road.

Medium bodied, it's creamy and zesty, but the almost acrid bitterness on the tongue is stylistically distracting.

The appearance had me hopeful. The aroma had me excited. Then along came the flavor and disappointment followed. The weisse wheat and esters don't seem to mesh with the edgy, raw hops so you get good ingredients adding up to a deflated whole. The ABV is not to be ignored, and I wonder if it's worth it. But hey, keep collaborating. The next one might be a keeper.

Serving type: bottle

10-04-2007 14:56:28 | More by Foxman
Schneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse from Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH
91 out of 100 based on 1,087 ratings.