He Said (Baltic Porter) | 21st Amendment Brewery

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He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
21st Amendment Brewery
California, United States | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Fall

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Reviews: 106 | Ratings: 504
Photo of bishopdc0
3.37/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Jet black with a thick creamy tan head, beautiful

The nose reminds me of grape medicine I had as a kid, very fruity the malts and the spice lend to an almost medicinal flavor, not in a bad way, if that make sense.

The taste is more baltic porter than spice, unlike the triple IMO. The flavor melded well better.

Its not an every day beer certainly but not bad.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
3.73/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

21st Amendment Brewery "He Said"
12 oz. can, "Canned On: 09/02/15 0801"

A Baltic porter with pumpkin spices! Awesome! This could be my new Halloween beer. NOPE. It sounds like a good idea but it just doesn't work. Or at least this version doesn't work. It's fruity in the nose (apricot?, plum, fig) with an odd note, and neither the rich malt and dark notes of the Baltic porter nor the pumpkin pie spices really come through, being all muddled up within each other and the yeasty fruitiness. And the same seems to be true of the flavor, although I will say for sure that it's better, but I don't really get the spices, so I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to just not have them there at all - they don't seem to elevate it in any way. The balance is good, and it's clean, I just feel that it didn't quite click.

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Photo of horshack7
3.77/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: When poured it's very dark with a two finger beige head that is not only quite frothy but it leaves good lacing behind.

Aroma: Chocolate malts, pumpkin spice, roasted malts, a light dryness in the nose. Faint coffee notes.

Taste: Chocolate malts in the front, Yeasty dryness in the middle. Some coffee notes, roasted hops with a bit of a dry finish.

Notes: Well what we have here is an interesting take on a Baltic Porter and a good one at that. Cheers.

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Photo of mothmanscott
3.96/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours what appears to be a clear very dark brown that is garnet hued when held to the light, producing 2+ fingers of foamy, creamy, moderately lasting, tan head that leaves motes, wisps & strings of lace. Aroma is roasted malt, bittersweet chocolate & Hershey's chocolate syrup, spice, pumpkin & a hint of smoke. Taste is similar to the nose but is more pumpkin & spice heavy with the cinnamon prominent, dark & bittersweet chocolate,  roast with burnt bread undertone, hints of molasses/toffee, an earthy mustiness & a faint hint of coffee. Lager yeast in the finish. I'm sure the caraway is there but is wasted on my unfamiliarity with it. Smooth, sweet start transitions to a dry, peppery feel in the finish, leaving a spice heavy, very dry, burnt chocolate & faintly bitter aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium-heavy bodied, moderate carbonation, chewy but silky & creamy with a lively finish & a spice heavy, somewhat tongue numbing aftertaste. An interesting & very different brew. Very intriguing!

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Photo of justintcoons
3/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12 oz can poured into a stemmed tulip.

Appearance
Near black with 1 finger of khaki head.

Nose
Prune, plum, apricot, and cocoa.

Taste
Prune, black plum, and apricot. Some smoke, charcoal, and powdered cocoa. Strange sweet pumpkin flavors with a touch of allspice.

Mouthfeel
Medium bodied, smooth, and clean with a light bitterness.

Overall
It's got some strange flavors going on, but the smoothness of the lager makes up for it.

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Photo of dar482
3.74/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The beer comes in a dark brown color.

The aroma offers richly toasted bread and roasty malts, cinnamon, nutmeg, chocolate, hints of plum and fig, cola.

The flavor hits of a Cola sweetness and milk chocolate, along with a herbal bitterness with nutmeg, hints of cinnamon, allspice, hints of buttery gourd, with a clean and dry lager finish.

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Photo of IronLover
3.75/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Deep brown to black in color. Poured with a short, light beige foam with medium low retention. Sweet, dark malt aromas with pumpkin, spice nutmeg and a faint note of roasted malt. Medium light bodied with a creamy smooth feel and light carbonation. Rich dark malt flavor up front followed by a touch of roastiness that quickly transitions to pumpkin and spice flavors. Medium hop bitterness through the middle. Bitter hops and a bit of cloying pumpkin sweetness carry to the end. Finished dryly with light roasty notes and bitter hop aftertaste. Balance tips heavily to the sweet and pumpkin side. A bit too sweet for me.

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Photo of RyanK252
3.54/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Can poured into a BarrelHouse Brewing Co pint glass

A: Pours deep brown with a slight ruby hue where the light comes through, and a frothy light brown head that settles to a light layer and laces lightly.

S: Roasted malt, earthy, light spice, and a little roasted pumpkin.

T: Roasty malt, dark toast, a hint of smokiness, a little coffee, earthy, kinda bitter pumpkin and some spice come out a bit on the back end as it warms.

M: Medium body, moderate carbonation. I wish it was a bit fuller feeling.

O: Fairly tame for a pumpkin and spice porter, kind of in a bad way. I wish something jumped out more. Instead it's inoffensive, but a bit boring.

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Photo of ordybill
4.5/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 OZ can into a pint glass. The appearance is a clear dark brown with a medium sized white head. The aroma is roasted malt and a slight hint of pumpkin. The taste is spices and cocoa with a touch of pumpkin. A very enjoyable beer.

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Photo of Lukass
2.91/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours like a normal Baltic porter. Black, with a little brown shining through on the top, with a creamy khaki head that dissipated after about 10 min. Smell is already off to a bad start. Smells of cheap Concord grape wine, and the spices come off like gluhwein and peanut butter. In other words, a PB and J sandwich, but not in a good way. Taste is much of the same - peanut butter and jelly, and the astringent heat of alcohol like a cheap malt liquor. I don't know if I got a bad batch or what, but I almost drain poured this one (would've been my second..). I don't know what they were thinking with the spices on this one but it was just nasty. I'm normally a fan of 21st amendment but this one fell way short of what I was expecting. Much different from the other He Said, which was phenomenal, IMO.

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.3/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

From the 12 oz can in a pint glass. This porter pours a blackish brown with a nice head of tan foam that subsides to a thick ring and layer with nice lacing. Nose of cinnamon, mace, roasted malts, brown sugars, and vegetable notes. Flavors follow the nose with light spiced pumpkin and near charred brown sugar with a nutmeg background. Good for the pumpkin lover. Lightly dry finish. Moderate carbonation. Not my cup of brew. Looking forwards to the triple and hoping for a better outcome. Love 21st Amendment, not a fan of this one though.

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Photo of mfnmbvp
3.48/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 fl oz. can, canned on 09/02/2015. My second of the two pumpkin brews from 21st Amendment. "Lager brewed with pumpkin and spices".

Poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Pours a black cola colored body, thinner, and more watery in appearance than a stout. 4 big fluffy fingers of bubbly chocolate cream head. Good fat fluffy strands of lacing.

S - More cola in the nose: spicing is apparent, but nothing too distinct. Notes of chocolate, herbs, and spice rack. No over pumpkin / gourd, or even cinnamon for that matter. 'Cola' is the best descriptor I can conjure. Maybe some very mild notes of pie crust / diacetyl when I really look for it.

T - Taste follows the nose: a thin, slightly watery cola flavored brew. Spices are apparent, but again indistinct. No cinnamon, thyme, or allspice stands out, but doubtless they are in there. Mild notes of peppery spice on the finish.

M - Feel is thin & watery, for the style and the abv. Mild lingering notes of chocolate & spices. Medium-bodied with crisp carb. Almost a bit of peppery chile spice finish.

Overall, not quite doing it for me. This one misses the mark, in my honest opinion. Not terrible, but definitely not enough pumpkin going on here to keep things interesting, and a bit too much cola spicing on this one.

21st Amendment He Said (Baltic-Style Porter) -----3.5/5

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Photo of mvanaskie13
3.42/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a pint glass, color is black, kind of dense, head is tan, light lacing, lingers well with a nice cap.

Smell is has a nice cinnamon kick, maybe some light ginger, then some sweeter malt character, spiciness lingers.

Taste is a little neutral and less distinctive than the aroma, mild spiciness, cinnamon, clove, ginger, all spice are present, then some lighter pumpkin like vegetal qualities. Baltic porter profile is noticeable in the malt, but the finish is a bit harsh from the spices.

Mouthfeel is a bit dry on the tongue from the spiciness, thought the spice level seems subdued in flavor.

Overall, an interesting take on the blended style, it really hides the abv well from the spice and porter qualities but the flavor and finish aren't to my preference.

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Photo of BEERMILER12
3.58/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a near pitch black color with 2 fingers of head that fades down to a thin ring of lace

S: Lots of pumpkin spices up front. Some roast, pumpkin, and coffee behind the spices. Very odd

T: Follows the nose. Starts off with some muddled pumpkin spices and goes into some roasted malts, coffee, and vegetal pumpkin. Finishes with lingering spices

M: Medium-full bodied with moderate carbonation

O: Really just an odd combination of spices and roast. You would think it would work out better, but it never really fully works out. Drinkable for 8.2%, though. I think the tripel easily takes the cake between the 2 beers in the 4-pack

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.73/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The nose is interesting, to say the least. It's one part pumpkin ale, one part big lager. Just like the tripel, I do find the spicing overly strong. This one seems very gingery to me. Still, touches of smoke, dark fruits, lightly roasted grain, and some diacetyl show up with vigor. But holy balls, this one tastes spicy. I get massive flavors of ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon, to the point of excess. There is a touch of actual pumpkin character near the back end, along with a chocolaty 'bite'. This is way too spicy tasting in general, however. It feels a bit slimy on the palate, though this comes with the territory of the style. All in all, this one doesn't work very well, due to how out of balance this one is. I expected this to be a little better than the tripel version, but it just isn't.

2.73/5: I said: OVERSPICED

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Photo of puboflyons
3.96/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

From the 12 fl. oz. can. Sampled on October 25, 2015.

It pours very dark brown to near black with a long lasting, foamy tan head. Opaque.

The aroma is a wide array of characters including oatmeal, licorice, black current, soy sauce, and mild roasted malt. THin hop profile.

Medium body.

The oatmeal character leads the way in the taste but there is a mild bitterness to finish. Some black licorice too. Fascinating.

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Photo of frasergrove
3.49/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

L: dark, quickly fading head

S: mild dark sugar sweetness mixed with some spice, notes of cardamom

T: some spicy notes, malty and toasty notes, not super complex

F: muted bitterness, spice dominates

O: interesting beer, good, not great

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Photo of smcolw
3.86/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Small head but it leaves an initial ring of lace and many streaks thereafter. Deep brown color where light shines through the edge.

A bit chalky but otherwise I get a lot of darker chocolate. There's a bit of sourness in the background.

Mild start to the flavor, it's as if the dark malt is hidden. The swallow, however, is very complex with the chocolate malt coming through with lots of spices (ginger predominantly, along with cinnamon and nutmeg). Modest hop flavor. Thin bodied with a high carbonation.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.64/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Canned on: 9/2/15.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of roasted malt, pumpkin pie spice, brown sugar, and dark fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with earth, pumpkin pie spice, molasses, and slight char flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast and spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with interesting flavors, but the mix of aromas is much better to me.

Serving type: can.

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Photo of anohvc
3.99/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from the can into a tulip glass, this baltic porter pours a deep black color with an inch mocha-colored head that recedes fairly quickly. Leaves nice lacing on the glass after each sip. Smells of malt, coffee, and some cinnamon. Very woodsy in both flavor and aroma. Mouthfeel is smooth and a bit biting with coffee/malt notes. Pumpkin is not very prevalent, nor are any pumpkin pie spices, although I have a cold, which may impact this review. Overall a delicious Baltic porter, although the pumpkin aspect is a bit lacking.

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Photo of Reckage
4.11/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

As a big fan of darker brews i have to give this one a slight edge on the He Said tripel, both are really good beers. This collaboration between 21st amendment and elysian breweries just seems natural, they should take on another project!

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Photo of Craigory
3.94/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Can, poured into a cigar city snifter.

A: Pours black with substantial, creamy, khaki head.

S: Pretty vegetal on the nose, like freshly baked pumpkin. Some nutmeg pokes through.

T: I imagine this is what a savory pumpkin pie would taste like. Squash, nutmeg, all-spice, a little breadiness, and plenty of caramel malt from the baltic porter base. There's a great porter sitting underneath this, and the more earthy take on the pumpkin is welcome.

M: Creamy, full-bodied.

O: This would be my go-to pumpkin beer, if I could get it regularly.

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Photo of Jeffreysan
4.53/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle, poured into a pint glass

Appearance: Pours a beautiful pitch black color with three fingers of caramel-colored head that slowly dissolved into a half of a finger of lacing that gripped the sides of the glass and completely covered the entire top of the beer.

Aroma: Lots of roasted malt and smoke. Dark bread, brown sugar, slight notes of alcohol, liquorish. Not much in the way of hops however.

Taste: Beautiful! Massive roasted malt bomb! Tons of malt and freshly baked dark bread, brown sugar, sweetness, finished by some beautifully balanced hops. Delicious!

Mouthfeel: Chewy and smoooooth! Hardly any carbonation. With an ABV of 8.2%, I’m surprised that there isn’t more of an alcohol presence on the palate. As it is, there isn’t any.

Overall: This is an excellent, excellent porter, one of the best I’ve ever had in fact. Absolutely fantastic!! If this beer is released again next year, I’m definitely getting it again!

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Photo of mitch3114
3.5/5  rDev -5.7%

Sampled on 10/4/14 at annual pumpkin tasting party, reviewed from notes:

Poured from can into tasting glass

A great Baltic Porter, but lacking on the pumpkin characteristics. The addition of pumpkin may have changed the overall taste of the beer, but not in a way that anyone can really tell that pumpkin had been introduced as one of the ingredients.

Great looking, dark, roasty, earthy, hops, etc. Bold and flavorful. Again, a great baltic porter very much to true to the style. Also, a great offering coming from two great breweries. However, a little disappointed with the lack of pumpkin (or even typical pumpkin beer flavors, i.e. spices..) especially since Elysian is so well known for consistently turning out great pumpkin beers.

Points off for the lack of pumpkin. However, if this was "HE SAID BALTIC PORTER" I think it would be closer to 4.25.

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Photo of VashonGuy
4/5  rDev +7.8%

12 ounce can from the 4 pack, into a tulip.

This is my first Baltic Porter, so I don't have others to compare it to. I'm struck by the smokiness, both in the aroma and the taste. The pumpkin? Not so much. It's there in the background, but if I didn't know this was a pumpkin ale, I might not have thought about it. There's a bit of spice, but nowhere near what you find in typical pumpkin ales.

I'd call this a dark smoky porter, with a difference, and the difference is that pumpkin/spice combo in the background. Overall, I like the combination of flavors quite a bit, and think that everything works well together. Unusual, yes, but very very good.

I first had the He Said/He Said 4 pack in 2013, and remembered that it was good. I'll be sure to pick some up every year from now on.

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He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 106 ratings.