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He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)

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BA SCORE
84
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242 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 242
Reviews: 69
rAvg: 3.71
pDev: 11.59%


Brewed by:
21st Amendment Brewery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013)
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HardTarget

Texas

3.54/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Black glass holds a thin tan head that leaves loops of lace. No light comes through, even at the edges.

Smell: Spice note is up front, pumpkin pie, pear skin, slightly vegatal but not to a flaw. No raosted barley, or any real malt or beer smell comes through save maybe a slight yeasty note.

Taste: Deep, under the pumpkin pie spice (clove? nutmeg? cinnamon?), under the cola sweet base malt, there is a slight ribbon of something dark and malty. But it is deep under the mountain.

Mouthfeel: Odd creamy texture that evaporates too quickly into a very light bodied beer. Very high carbonation has it go frothy in the mouth more than fizzy, the body isn't heavy enough to support it so it ends up being dried out and empty.

Overall: Over spiced, not heavy enough to cellar to let it settle down, a bit of a train wreck, but a good evening sipper, a pumpkin, or pumpkin pie spice beer that's better than most.

Thanks to Illudium for the sample!

Serving type: can

04-15-2014 00:33:40 | More by HardTarget
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voxhumana

Florida

4.53/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.75

This beer is awesome!

It has a medium/light body with a non-overbearing pumpkin taste, preferable to some of the more mainstream beers with strong, syrupy pumpkin flavors. Followed up by a subtle but crisp spice after taste.

picked this up at a liquor store in the boonies while traveling cross-country, and I'm sad to say I cant find it anywhere else now. Great stuff.

Serving type: can

03-26-2014 02:43:24 | More by voxhumana
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JayQue

Virginia

3.75/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

I liked it. As much a pumpkin ale as it is a porter, but it works. Poured from a 12 oz cn into a pint glass. Dense brown color, just a little light coming through at the bottom of the glass. Big light tan head with good retention and lacing.

Smell is roasted malt, pumpkin and pumpkin spices. Pleasant aroma.

Taste is more of the same. A malty beer with strong pumpkin and pumpkin spices overtones.

Mouthfeel is rich and creamy. No hint of alcohol.

A tasaty and imaginative brew.

Serving type: can

03-20-2014 02:58:36 | More by JayQue
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vkv822

Oregon

3.55/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz : tulip

Pours black with a foamy light brown head and spotty lacing.

The caraway and cinnamon come through initially, as more of a general allspice character, with hints of the pumpkin and a pleasant dark, roasty, faintly cocoa backbone. The spices certainly lend a distinct Pumpkin Ale character.

Medium body, finishes a bit thin for my liking, but I've found that to be typical with the lager yeast used for Baltic Porters so I can't really knock it. Foamy carbonation.

A well done take on a Baltic Porter, though it is certainly just as equally a Pumpkin Ale in taste in my opinion. Happy to have another can to enjoy.

Serving type: can

02-18-2014 07:56:53 | More by vkv822
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asaharyev

Massachusetts

3.55/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Pour: Black with some dark brown edging, and a great fluffy head.

Aroma: Cinnamon and pumpkin with sweet chocolate malts and a bit of saltiness. A strange aroma, with the pumpkin and spice taking over.

Taste: Again, the pumpkin and cinnamon are right up front, but now more of the chocolate comes through, with a touch of coffee. There is a certain bitterness to the flavor, which comes in at the end nicely. Still, the pumpkin is the focus, as it should be.

Overall: A decent porter, though I’m not entirely sure the pumpkin works as well as I might like. I wouldn’t mind trying the porter behind this beer with no pumpkin added.

Serving type: can

02-16-2014 15:41:33 | More by asaharyev
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seand

California

3.53/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours nearly black and nearly opaque, with lots of tan head. The foam subsides to a thin but solid layer, leaving lots of lacing.

S: Sweet and roasty, with possibly a touch of heat from the booze.

T: Medium roasty sweetness, with a slightly bitter roasted note coming forward through the finish. Nice balance overall, if a little light.

M: A little odd; overall, pretty full bodied, but a little thin feeling through the middle. Medium carbonation.

Overall, good. It's a pretty solid option for a darker stronger beer in cans. It could be better though, and it's lighter than you would expect for the ABV.

Serving type: can

02-10-2014 03:13:12 | More by seand
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Legend_of_Troybrau

Rhode Island

4.05/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12 oz can poured into plastic milk jug.

A) 4.25-- black body, w creamy quarter inch of light coffee color head.

S) 4-- light pumpkin, sweetness, stout

T) 4.25- Flavor gauntlet. Roasty, sweet, chocolate-orangeness, Bright fruity finish, cranberry tartness and berry. Malt, malty, malt, malt.

M) 4.25 Soft, wet... velvet

O) 9.3

Serving type: can

01-31-2014 02:05:56 | More by Legend_of_Troybrau
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BastardKing24

Oregon

3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Random buy at my local go to.

Pours a dark brown with a decadent fluffy khaki head that holds well.

Smell is of pumpkin, spices, caramel, roasted malt, and coffee.

Taste is kind of weird with a low roasty quality that is assisted by pumpkins and spices. It's almost as if you took a low alc porter and added some bruery autumn maple. Yeah kinda like that.

Mouthfeel is ok. low to medium carb and a light to medium feel.

Over all not something I would buy again but it wasn't bad per say. Well to think of it its one of the better pumpkin beers I've had.

Serving type: can

01-22-2014 01:50:23 | More by BastardKing24
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jbaker67

Pennsylvania

3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Nice black and tan type pour. Aroma of hints of allspice, tiny bits of squash, and a bit of roasty malts. Flavors tend to be a bit sweet up front, then blending in a bit of the roast, while kicking up the spice note towards the finish. Pleasant pumpkiny flavors throughout, while the lingering notes lean mostly onto the spices. Tiniest hint of booze in the finish as well.

Serving type: can

01-21-2014 20:02:23 | More by jbaker67
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Treyliff

West Virginia

4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A- pours thick and pitch black with a two-finger sudsy light-tan head that has good retention, eventually leaving a small layer floating on top

S- charred wood with some smoky malt aromas, charcoal, earthy and herbal, carrot cake, sweet molasses and carob

T- roasty and smoky malt coming from the base porter with hints of carob and raisin, lots of cinnamon coming through from the spice bouquet which works nicely with the porter. Not specifically picking up any pumpkin but I can pick out the typical pumpkin spice flavors, dry finish with more cinnamon and roasted malt on the linger

M- thick and chewy body with low carbonation and a foamy and creamy mouthfeel, leading to a silky finish, just a touch of alcohol warmth at the end

O- I enjoyed this one, I think the cinnamon having more of a presence that the other spices worked nicely with the baltic porter. Very drinkable, given the ABV. I'm usually let down by all things 21st, but this one was good

Serving type: can

01-10-2014 00:23:15 | More by Treyliff
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Immortale25

North Carolina

3.8/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Bottom of can says Canned On: 09/09/13

A- Pours a fully opaque black color with a 1/2 inch tan head that retains decently before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some bubbly splotches of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a jagged ring behind.

S- The usual aroma of allspice, cinnamon and nutmeg for a pumpkin beer plus a bit of booze.

T- The spices come through full force in the flavor and there's a very apparent alcohol aftertaste. Still, pretty drinkable although uninspired. The dark roast tries to make itself known but is bogged down the the spice and booze.

M- Semi-thick with medium carbonation and a full body.

O- I hope the Tripel in the other half of this 4-pack is better than this. This one's just too hot.

Serving type: can

01-02-2014 00:33:26 | More by Immortale25
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bizweasel

Washington

4.38/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Of the two He Said's this is the one that has the better staying power as a beer you look forward to drinking again. And it'll be the reason I will stockpile the goofy and somewhat expensive 4pack boxes while they are still out there.
Love the color on this beer. Just a hint of that dark roast bitter making it through the spice and sugar. Lots of cinnamon and less clove, good call there guys. Coats the tongue. Goes with food or without, try some to wash down a curry, mmmm.

Serving type: can

12-31-2013 05:28:40 | More by bizweasel
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cindyjeffsmith

Georgia

3.79/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

appearance: Fairly dark, nearly opaque with ruby highlights. Nice mocha swath of head and lacing.
smell: Lots happening here. Aromatic spices (e.g. cinnamon), and licorice.
taste: Start is much like the nose. Finish has more Baltic Porter. Very interesting.
overall: Nice brew. Interesting mix of pumpkin and aromatic spice with the malty smokiness of a Baltic.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2013 22:59:31 | More by cindyjeffsmith
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

3.79/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can - $2.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Canned on: 09/09/13.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown body. The sandy beige head, after an initial flush of suds, settles to just under a half inch, and, a few minutes later, is non-existent.

Smell: An aromatic buffet of scents: roasted malts, caraway seed, black licorice, pumpkin, moistened prunes, and a hint of chocolate.

Taste: Roasty, dark maltiness laced with prune-like dark fruitiness as well as the tangy pumpkin. A little chocolate and gooey molasses, a sprinkling of ground spice and shaved licorice. The caraway, dark fruit, roast, and a drizzle of liquor ride off into the aftertaste post the soft, smooth finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Fairly smooth on the tongue.

Overall: I'm totally okay with this beer, really.

Serving type: can

12-29-2013 20:41:07 | More by ChainGangGuy
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GarthDanielson

North Carolina

3.76/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a can into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, blackish color with ruby highlights around the edges and a tall, frothy, foamy, chunky, small bubbled head that sits a solid inch and a half and is creamy tan colored. Slow recession of the head as you drink. Aromas of coffee roast , earthy notes, and subtle pumpkin notes. Pretty subtle notes past the coffee. Flavors are a little more pumpkin heavy, with rich notes coming forward in front of coffee bitter and roast, as well as some cinnamon and nutmeg spicing. Bittersweet baker's chocolate notes are present throughout the palate, also. Pretty dynamic, and more flavorful than I was expecting. Tasty brew. Robust flavors on a mid-bodied, dry feel throughout, with a tangy, rich sweet and fairly rigidly bitter undertone all through the aftertaste. The finish has a subtle linger of bitter and sweet, with more of the coffee and chocolate hanging around until the next sip. Solid beer!

Serving type: can

12-24-2013 00:35:02 | More by GarthDanielson
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ThickNStout

Georgia

2.79/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

12oz can from Total Wine (Kennesaw, GA). 9.99/ 4 pack. Canned 9/9/13. Served in a Pumpking goblet.

Pours deep dark brown with chestnut highlights and about a finger and a half manilla head. Leaves a thin layer on top and a touch of lace.

Aromas of pumpkin pie and cocoa. A sweet, interesting blend of pie spice and roast malts.

Tastes bitter, pumpkin, spice, roast, metallic, some sort of bitter strangeness and a little booze. Interesting but lacking balance and smoothness.

Semi creamy, medium thin body with fairly lively carbonation. Spiced pumpkin, roasty chocolate malt and bitter finish.

I appreciate the effort to make something differen in a pumpkin beer with this one just doesn't work for me.

Serving type: can

12-21-2013 13:45:07 | More by ThickNStout
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Keepmywitbieraboutme

New York

3.29/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This was gifted me and a gift I'd always appreciated.

A- almost a shark eye black with pinky of tan head. Dull, not shiny, but still pleased.

S- I get the spice and roast of a normal Baltic, but I get a faint smoldered wood that I like.

T- fair roast leaving toward burnt. Cooking chocolate and biscuit. Not hating it.

M- slight thinness with which I disagree. However I could get passed it.

O- well worth the try. A nice notch on the belt if you will since I have never seen this until presented to me.

Serving type: can

12-16-2013 03:43:44 | More by Keepmywitbieraboutme
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Chaney

District of Columbia

3.79/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Served in a "Game of Thrones" glass.

A: Poured out as black as night and with a slight head only a shade or two lighter than the actually brew.

S: Nice smell. Milk chocolate candy, a tinge of roast, but sort of a cinnamon-esque center overall.

T: Good, but slightly boring. Still, nice cocoa nibs in the center, and some funky licorice in there as well.

M: Wish it had been a bit thicker. My first Baltic Porter from a can and not really impressed with the mouth here, epecially considering this is a high octane brew. Slight lacing.

O: This was pretty good, but since this is one of my favorite styles, the competition is pretty fierce to my mind.

Serving type: can

12-12-2013 04:50:41 | More by Chaney
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oberon

North Carolina

3.73/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a standard pint glass a deep dark chocolate brown with a thinner but pretty well susteined tannish colored head atop.Spiced aromas like nutmeg,mace, and cinnamon,with some roast and a tinge of iron.A little fizzy to me in the mouth and some what light as well.Flavors of pumpkin and spice with nutmeg and cinnamon standing out mainly,a little chocolate roast round out the palate.I like the concept of this beer but it's lacking a little.

Serving type: can

12-10-2013 13:06:15 | More by oberon
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woodychandler

Pennsylvania

3.9/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

CAN you believe it?!? My local, in-person trader, tone77, dropped off a redundancy of CANs that leaves me totally CANflicted. I CAN only press on in support of The CANQuest (TM) in the hopes that I will not be CANsumed by the supernatural forces at work.

From the CAN: "Baltic-Style Porter Lager Brewed with Pumpkin and Spices".

My pour began with an upright Glug as I did not want any doubt remaining as to whether Bro. Woody with the Order of Disorder were an upright soul. This resulted in two fingers of dense, deep-tan head with better-than-expected retention. It were witchcraft and so I were called in to delve to the bottom of this bloody and dismal swamp. It were a witches' brew, indeed, with a deep, murky brown color (SRM = 44 +) that burbled and popped until I came near its mess. The smell emanating from it was of Hell itself - roasting pumpkins, cinnamon, allspice, eye of newt and tail of frog ... Whoops! Satan got ahold of me briefly. Suddenly, that temptress whom I CANnot rid myself of memory, The Old Lady, appeared before mine eyes. "Get thou back, thou reddish wench!" I cried out. She merely smiled and beckoned me to take a draught from her chalice, somehow replacing mine own. It were as thick as baboon's blood and as spicy as her nether regions, from which I had partaken in oh, so many weak moments! I were naught but a fallen minister and she straddled atop my mouth, pouring the CANtents of CAN after CAN into mine orifice. I cried for help but none was forthcoming. The light and love that suddenly appeared from the glass demanded that I look not directly upon it. I wept whilst The Old Lady laughed but she poured yon luscious beverage into mine gaping orifice and soon we were alone. Mine breath had been taken away by the perfume of the all of the spices.I have no further words for any/all of it but words of caution. Wanderest down yon halls of "He Said" and ye may find yeselves in yon same predicament as yon favorite pseudo-monk: F**ked, again!

Serving type: can

12-02-2013 02:47:59 | More by woodychandler
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4.19/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I've always been a fan of pumpkin porters- so much so that I've been known to mix a pumpkin beer with a good roasty porter. This one from the collaboration between 21st amendment and Elysian is a good one. I've always been a fan of Elysian's pumpkin festival, and their pumpkin beers in general. This beer has that pumpkin silkiness I'm looking for coupled with some judicious pumpkin pie spicing, and a nice roastiness as a counterpoint. Creamy finish, this is just what I'm looking for in a pumpkin porter.

Serving type: can

12-02-2013 02:07:44 | More by Georgiabeer
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dbrauneis

North Carolina

3.76/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark brown in color (approaching black) with light to moderate amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the edges of the glass and a amber + brown highlights. The beer has a half finger tall sudsy light beige head that reduces to a mottled thin film covering the majority of the surface of the beer and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Light to moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate aromas of pumpkin pie spices (specifically nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon) over the top of faint aromas of chocolate malts.

T: Upfront there is a very light flavor of chocolate malts with moderate to strong flavors of pumpkin pie spices (nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon). Light notes of pumpkin that add some sweetness.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Light amounts of dryness are present.

O: Overall, this does not really have any of the characteristics I would expect in a Baltic Porter but it is a really enjoyable pumpkin ale assuming that you enjoy the flavors of pumpkin pie spices.

Serving type: can

11-29-2013 23:52:39 | More by dbrauneis
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angrybabboon

Rhode Island

3.46/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving me a can of this

Consumed 11/28/13

Appearance: Surprisingly, remarkably dark, borderline jet black - pours with a creamy, fluffy, light tan head - impressive, solid head retention and leaves some lovely blobs of lacing

Smell: Chocolate, cocoa, and some pumpkin spices - nice range of chocolate, including burnt chocolate malts, baker's chocolate, semisweet chocolate, and cocoa - some pumpkin spices, like cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger, but they are somewhat overpowered by the burnt/roasty aromas - some burnt squash, pumpkin - some earthy aromas

Taste: It's like someone attempted to make a chocolate pumpkin loaf, burnt it, and then threw it into a pile of dirt - earthy, dirty, burnt chocolate - more chocolate malts than anticipated from the aroma, and a little less cocoa - decidedly burnt, and very earthy - some pumpkin, as well as some cooked squash - some malty sweetness and caramel - straight-up sugary sweetness - pumpkin pie spices are definitely here as well, with some cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and clove

Mouthfeel: Medium-ish body, nicely carbonated, smooth, kind of oily and sticky in the finish while simultaneously being dry

Overall: Baltic Porter + pumpkin + great brewery + great brewery = slightly better than meh?

Well, this is definitely better than the other He Said (Tripel). But I do have some issues. It's overly earthy and borderline dirty. And there is an odd amount of sweetness. Overall, after having reviewed the He Said Tripel a few hours ago, I am reaching the conclusion that while 21st Amendment and Elysian are great breweries on an individual level, they do not produce magic when collaborating. Sorry.

Serving type: can

11-28-2013 05:45:26 | More by angrybabboon
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Joerwat

Georgia

3.99/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Nose: Sweet, slightly fruity with a nice bouquet of spices, like a nice pumpkin pie. Of the usual spices, cinnamon takes the stage

mouthfeel: spices take the fore, pumpkin is far less present than on the nose.

Finish, the pumpkin-y flavor returns with a vengeance, the spice fades away to the strong, almost vegetal, but not badly so, pumpkin flavor

overall: not quite as balanced as I would like, but still fantastic.

Mixed with the Baltic porter He Said: a far more balanced nose, spices play with pumpkin to a nice backdrop of roast. Mouthfeel is fuller than either alone, and the taste is again more balanced; it's as though one only tastes the best parts of both brews. The finish is shorter, again perfectly balanced, but at the very end becomes just a tad too vegetal. I'd rate the mix at 4.85, it is so incredibly close to the perfect pumpkin beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-26-2013 22:35:29 | More by Joerwat
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metter98

New York

3.76/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high tan colored head that gradually died down, leaving a thin head covering the surface and some lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of pumpkins and pumpkin spices are present in the nose.
T: The taste is dominated by flavors of pumpkin spices—nutmeg seems to stand out in particular along with hints of allspice and cinnamon.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little dry on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes a lot more like a Pumpkin Ale compared to a Baltic Porter, but when compared to pumpkin beers the taste is nearly completely dominated by spices. Provided you can handle the spices, it is easy to drink for the style.

Serving type: can

11-25-2013 00:54:09 | More by metter98
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He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 242 ratings.