He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

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Reviews: 86
Hads: 443
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 11.73%
Wants: 11
Gots: 49 | FT: 1
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

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Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Photo of metter98
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high tan colored head that gradually died down, leaving a thin head covering the surface and some lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of pumpkins and pumpkin spices are present in the nose.
T: The taste is dominated by flavors of pumpkin spices—nutmeg seems to stand out in particular along with hints of allspice and cinnamon.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little dry on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes a lot more like a Pumpkin Ale compared to a Baltic Porter, but when compared to pumpkin beers the taste is nearly completely dominated by spices. Provided you can handle the spices, it is easy to drink for the style. (746 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a standard pint glass a deep dark chocolate brown with a thinner but pretty well susteined tannish colored head atop.Spiced aromas like nutmeg,mace, and cinnamon,with some roast and a tinge of iron.A little fizzy to me in the mouth and some what light as well.Flavors of pumpkin and spice with nutmeg and cinnamon standing out mainly,a little chocolate roast round out the palate.I like the concept of this beer but it's lacking a little. (450 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can - $2.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Canned on: 09/09/13.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown body. The sandy beige head, after an initial flush of suds, settles to just under a half inch, and, a few minutes later, is non-existent.

Smell: An aromatic buffet of scents: roasted malts, caraway seed, black licorice, pumpkin, moistened prunes, and a hint of chocolate.

Taste: Roasty, dark maltiness laced with prune-like dark fruitiness as well as the tangy pumpkin. A little chocolate and gooey molasses, a sprinkling of ground spice and shaved licorice. The caraway, dark fruit, roast, and a drizzle of liquor ride off into the aftertaste post the soft, smooth finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Fairly smooth on the tongue.

Overall: I'm totally okay with this beer, really. (828 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.62/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Yay cans... just reviewed this beer and lost internet somewhere before i hit submit, so lost the hwole thing, so this will be short and to the point.

A: Nice creamy foamy 1+ finger dark colored head, almost black beer.

N: Some cocoa powder, little black malt, burnt vegetables, fermented pumpkin, mild baking spices and caramel, vegetal aromas and gourd.

T: More cocoa powder, light earthy root like character with the cooked pumpkin, baking spices, caramel, hint of raisin like fruit, some herbal earhty hops with mild bitterness, little vegetable. Finish drier but not crisp, little more bitterness, more cocoa, bit more pumpkin and baking spices.

M: Med bod, little creamy, mild warming booze, decent carb.

O: Not bad but some flaws, cooked vegetables esp on the aroma are a bit of a turnoff, pumpkin was OK but a bit on the cooked side, baking spices and cocoa were nice, OK beer but could be better. (909 characters)

Photo of mactrail
2.72/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This is just too strange. The odor is just simply a light saurkraut with the Old Oaken Bucket. Mossy and weedy and vegetable broth.rubber. Clean new tennis shoes. Not much carbonation. Color is an orangey brown.

Taste is old tomatoes and stewed barley with an intriguing woody note. A touch of burnt sugar and rubber. The pumpkin flavor actually comes through all that, and it's the best feature of this absurdity. I blame Elysian. From the 12 oz can purchased at Haggen's Market in Burlington, Wash.

Another can from a four-pack purchased at Pioneer Market in La Conner had more foam but the strange odor and plasticky note. (628 characters)

Photo of Slatetank
3.67/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed this can from the mix 4pack in a tulip chilled.

The color is black like dark roast coffee with a tan head The lace clings like webbing. The smell is spicey with a woody fragrance which is also malty but mildly vegetal with light cinnamon odor. The feel is strong and spiced with a creamy yeast feel with toasted middle. The feel brings a more spiced presence with alcohol and light sweetness in the finish.

The taste has a roasted grain flavor with subtle dark fruit and moderate amount of spice with a generally cinnamon dominant warming flavor with some nutty vegetal taste and mild light yeast fruitiness in the finish. Overall this is interesting and worth trying...I like the concept more than the actual beer but if you like spiced beers or strong porters it is more enjoyable than most. (806 characters)

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

The first whiff I got of this beer was quite promising, in a baltic porter kind of way. But it ends up being a wad of spices in a more pumpkin beer interpretation. Too much clutter really. Could stand a lot sharper of a definition. Nice enough to drink, I guess. But I just don't dig the spice clogged beers. Not my preference of style for a beer, but it works. (361 characters)

Photo of Jason
3.51/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz can with a freshness date on the bottom.

More of a Porter than a pumpkin ale, that is the tone here. Spiced out like a fall/winter brew with some vagueness to where this is all going. Thankfully the Porter side of it all helps keep things together even if this beer is just pretty good.

LOOK: Chunky head, good trail of lacing, black in color

SMELL: Burnt wood, charred grain twang, vague spice, alcohol, chicory

TASTE: Roasted grain, very warming alcohol, perfume flair, cedar, caraway seed, mild cinnamon, burnt currants, pumpkin?, long roasty finish, semi-dry, lingering roastiness and spice (603 characters)

Photo of WVbeergeek
4/5  rDev +6.7%

Dark nearly pitch black body, nice head formation with creamy tan colored head, which leaves behind speckled lacing in even patterns. Aroma dark roasted malts, a hint of pumpkin spice, raisins/plums other ripened or dried dark fruits. The spice is very minimal with pumpkin notes in the finish upfront dark chocolate, roasted malt character with a hint of coffee and dark fruit especially raisin notes. Mouthfeel texture wise silky smooth even flowing carbonation medium to full bodied really nice light spice finish which doesn't linger, absolutely no alcohol burn at all very smooth. Overall impressed with this offering, I'm glad I picked up a can of each to try the He Said, he Said combo! (697 characters)

Photo of dbrauneis
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark brown in color (approaching black) with light to moderate amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the edges of the glass and a amber + brown highlights. The beer has a half finger tall sudsy light beige head that reduces to a mottled thin film covering the majority of the surface of the beer and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Light to moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate aromas of pumpkin pie spices (specifically nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon) over the top of faint aromas of chocolate malts.

T: Upfront there is a very light flavor of chocolate malts with moderate to strong flavors of pumpkin pie spices (nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon). Light notes of pumpkin that add some sweetness.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Light amounts of dryness are present.

O: Overall, this does not really have any of the characteristics I would expect in a Baltic Porter but it is a really enjoyable pumpkin ale assuming that you enjoy the flavors of pumpkin pie spices. (1,055 characters)

Photo of woodychandler
3.9/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

CAN you believe it?!? My local, in-person trader, tone77, dropped off a redundancy of CANs that leaves me totally CANflicted. I CAN only press on in support of The CANQuest (TM) in the hopes that I will not be CANsumed by the supernatural forces at work.

From the CAN: "Baltic-Style Porter Lager Brewed with Pumpkin and Spices".

My pour began with an upright Glug as I did not want any doubt remaining as to whether Bro. Woody with the Order of Disorder were an upright soul. This resulted in two fingers of dense, deep-tan head with better-than-expected retention. It were witchcraft and so I were called in to delve to the bottom of this bloody and dismal swamp. It were a witches' brew, indeed, with a deep, murky brown color (SRM = 44 +) that burbled and popped until I came near its mess. The smell emanating from it was of Hell itself - roasting pumpkins, cinnamon, allspice, eye of newt and tail of frog ... Whoops! Satan got ahold of me briefly. Suddenly, that temptress whom I CANnot rid myself of memory, The Old Lady, appeared before mine eyes. "Get thou back, thou reddish wench!" I cried out. She merely smiled and beckoned me to take a draught from her chalice, somehow replacing mine own. It were as thick as baboon's blood and as spicy as her nether regions, from which I had partaken in oh, so many weak moments! I were naught but a fallen minister and she straddled atop my mouth, pouring the CANtents of CAN after CAN into mine orifice. I cried for help but none was forthcoming. The light and love that suddenly appeared from the glass demanded that I look not directly upon it. I wept whilst The Old Lady laughed but she poured yon luscious beverage into mine gaping orifice and soon we were alone. Mine breath had been taken away by the perfume of the all of the spices.I have no further words for any/all of it but words of caution. Wanderest down yon halls of "He Said" and ye may find yeselves in yon same predicament as yon favorite pseudo-monk: F**ked, again! (1,988 characters)

Photo of Billolick
3.96/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can, canned on 09/09/13, according to the info on the bottom ...

Pours darn near black, with a medium mocha and long lasting head, that slowly goes to fine and coating low sheeting and fine fields of scattered lacing. Nice looking beer.

Dark malts and lite chocolate on the nose.

Smooth and tasty on the tongue, I get more lite chocolate, dark malts and just a hit of the advertised "pumpkin and spices". Much better then the He Said Tripel, this one is a nicely crafted porter with subtle spicing and smooth malty/chocolate notes.

Worth a try. Quality beer in a can = good stuff (592 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
3.36/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from the can into a nonic pint glass.

Deep dark walnut black, with some sliver of red, but pretty much uniform dark body caps with a large three to four finger soapy thick light tan head. Faint light cocoa color a bit also and shampoo like clumping.

Pumpkin beer like spice senses of clove and nutmeg, a little bit of chocolate senses but not much roasty character. A bit dry and almost nutty tannic, and some almost sensing pounded and fresh dried clove, quite hot.

Palate comes with a sense of good silky milk quality at first. Then there is that dry alcohol sense nearly fussel mixing in with pumpkin like spices. Charring roast adds on the aftertaste and really exacerbates the bitterness. The flavors are not gelling well, and the bitterness is not a pleasant one.

Overall it's got the spiced pumpkin profile similar to it's tripel, but it's bitterness is really not in control here and doesn't make for a very enjoyable beer experience. It's ok. (962 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.18/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I've always been a fan of pumpkin porters- so much so that I've been known to mix a pumpkin beer with a good roasty porter. This one from the collaboration between 21st amendment and Elysian is a good one. I've always been a fan of Elysian's pumpkin festival, and their pumpkin beers in general. This beer has that pumpkin silkiness I'm looking for coupled with some judicious pumpkin pie spicing, and a nice roastiness as a counterpoint. Creamy finish, this is just what I'm looking for in a pumpkin porter. (508 characters)

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a can into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, blackish color with ruby highlights around the edges and a tall, frothy, foamy, chunky, small bubbled head that sits a solid inch and a half and is creamy tan colored. Slow recession of the head as you drink. Aromas of coffee roast , earthy notes, and subtle pumpkin notes. Pretty subtle notes past the coffee. Flavors are a little more pumpkin heavy, with rich notes coming forward in front of coffee bitter and roast, as well as some cinnamon and nutmeg spicing. Bittersweet baker's chocolate notes are present throughout the palate, also. Pretty dynamic, and more flavorful than I was expecting. Tasty brew. Robust flavors on a mid-bodied, dry feel throughout, with a tangy, rich sweet and fairly rigidly bitter undertone all through the aftertaste. The finish has a subtle linger of bitter and sweet, with more of the coffee and chocolate hanging around until the next sip. Solid beer! (952 characters)

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

rb

For me this is MUCH more approachable than the Triple.. decent 1" head drops back leaving good lacing... the brew is standard black.

Bigger spices than I appreciate, but they are reigned in by the darker malt presence.. Asian cinnamon... and something else I cannot put my palate on.. I dig this one, it isn't over done at all. Good roastiness and trailing off to a sorta sweet cinnamon essence.

Med/Light bodied with a lighter carbonation helps make this feel more full and lend toward a slow-down as I enjoy it.

3.5 across the board. (542 characters)

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.03/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into an Elysian snifter. Pours a very dark brown with mahogany highlights at the edges. A fine two finger very light tan head that dissipates to a persistant thick film with lots of lacing. Aroma of distinct cinnamon, roasted malt, clove and pumpkin, appealing. Flavor is mellow, sweet toasted malt, pumpkin and well handled light pumpkin pie spicing. Medium bodied with pleasant creaminess. A very nicely balanced pumpkin porter. I'm not detecting the Baltic portion of the porter because of the other flavors, but that is hardly a detraction because everything is very nicely balanced and tasty. Very nicely done. Both of these He Said ales were excellent. I hope these are an annual event. (699 characters)

Photo of flagmantho
3.88/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from 12oz can into my Deschutes tulip.

Appearance: extremely dark brown with virtually no light allowed through. Head pours a couple fingers of creamy dark-tan foam and slowly dissipates leaving a nice lace. A very attractive beer indeed.

Smell: cinnamon, nutmeg and a general character of pumpkin spice. Well-enough done, but very little of the base style manages to come through.

Taste: plenty of cinnamon, with other spicing kind of left behind. It's still got a nice, smooth flavor, with a bit of roastiness coming through especially at the end. A decent spiced beer.

Mouthfeel: medium body with a very well-integrated carbonation and a great creaminess. Well done!

Overall: the Baltic porter aspect of this beer struggles to shine, but like all Elysian pumpkiny beers this is pretty well done. I dig it. (832 characters)

Photo of tone77
4.08/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. can. Has a black color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of strong coffee, lots of roasted malts. Taste is unique and good. Roasted malts, some coffee, spices, a touch of sweetness, mild hints of pumpkin, very easy drinking for the abv. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall is a fine beer. (315 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
3.74/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

12 ounce can, canned on 09/09/13. Served in a nonic pint glass, the beer pours dark brown/black with a couple inch tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. The brew smells like chocolate, cinnamon, pumpkin spices, dark bread and caraway. It tastes like cinnamon, caraway, chocolate, pumpkin, nutmeg, roasted malt and a bit of licorice. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's coating with a moderate amount of carbonation. I liked this brew, definitely worth a try. $8.99 a 4-pack (2 cans of the He Said Baltic Porter, 2 cans of the He Said Tripel). (550 characters)

Photo of DrDemento456
3.74/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Paid $2.50 for the can.
A - My what creamy head we got here! Very deep color head thats well over two inches poured that sticks around for a bit. Beer itself is quite dark not pitch with just a bit of brown hue in the base.
S - Smells has a bit of mocha and roast, cinnamon and nutmeg for sure. Not overly sweet or vegital more of just a spice porter in the smell.
T - A bit more drying than your typical Baltic porter mostly due to dialed back roast flavors. Not getting much chocolate or pumpkin and only a mild tingle of cinnamon and nutmeg,
M - Light to medium, quite creamy. Smooth drinking for over 8%

Overall it's not terrible but again nothing worth getting again. An interesting take on a pumpkin beer but it seems every time I try a dark pumpkin beer I am disappointed. (780 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.57/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours relatively dark. Light does pass most of the way through. Head is well formed. It is big and fluffy with a very dark tint to it. Solid lace.

S-Aroma displays some spicy Autumnal aromas. Cinnamon and other spices. Powdered cocoa. Yeastiness. Pumpkin spice.

T-Cinnamon, nutmeg, cocoa powder and pumpkin flesh. Light coffee. All the flavors work well with one another.

M-Rather light in body. Feels slightly watery. Booze hidden fairly well.

O/D-Pretty decent. Not sure how enamored I am with the combo of porter and pumpkin here. (539 characters)

Photo of Brenden
4.14/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

This beer is a very dark brown color, fairly thick, and exactly what I expect from a Baltic Porter. The head is a faintly yellow-tinted tan and rests at almost precisely one finger's height. Retention is good, and a mixture of patching and spotting is in plenty.
There's a baking chocolate undertone in the malts, with plenty of roast and a little bit of sweetness. Otherwise, pumpkin spices are nicely strong but held in check. There's definitely distinguishable pumpkin flesh in here, too. It's a good balance of very lightly sweet against boldly roasty and lightly bitter. Somewhat leafy/floral hops notes are light, as is a sort of earthier bitterness, working nicely to add depth and complexity to an otherwise stragithforward version of a pumpkin-based porter, though not traditional as far as Baltic Porters go.
The feel is even and smooth in a medium body but a little leaner on the tongue than I had expected. It has a light crispness to it as well. (958 characters)

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.96/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer is served a dark brown, nearly black color with a bit of foam on the surface of the brew. The foam fades rather fast with it leaving behind some islands of bubbles as well as a little bit of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is heaviest of a roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of a biscuit and a rather decent pumpkin aroma. Along with these aromas are notes of caramel and molasses as well as a rather strong nutmeg, some cinnamon and a bit of an allspice smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a darker roasted malt flavor with a decent roasted pumpkin flavor and a bit of a brown bread taste. A moderately strong caramel sweetness is present from the start with it transitioning to a more molasses like flavor later as the taste advances on. While the sweeter tastes transition, they also get stronger in flavor in comparison to the roast with the sweet becoming rather large. Toward the middle of the taste, the spice that was detected in the nose comes to the tongue. While moderately strong in the nose, the spice is a bit more mild on the tongue, and with the rest of the flavors, ends up leaving a rather nice, lightly pumpkin pie spied, roasted, and sweet flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel –The body of the beer is on the medium to slightly thicker side with a carbonation level that is on the average side. Overall the body is quite nice as the thickness is good for the roasted, pumpkin, and sweet flavors all while not being too overpowering for the spiced flavors of the beer.

Overall – A rather tasty brew overall. Very much more on the Baltic porter side with just some lighter hints of the pumpkin pie tastes. A rather enjoyable sipper. (1,751 characters)

Photo of jbaker67
3.64/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Nice black and tan type pour. Aroma of hints of allspice, tiny bits of squash, and a bit of roasty malts. Flavors tend to be a bit sweet up front, then blending in a bit of the roast, while kicking up the spice note towards the finish. Pleasant pumpkiny flavors throughout, while the lingering notes lean mostly onto the spices. Tiniest hint of booze in the finish as well. (373 characters)

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He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
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