He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

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Reviews: 86
Hads: 444
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 11.73%
Wants: 11
Gots: 49 | FT: 1
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

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Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Reviews: 86 | Hads: 444
Photo of jbaker67
3.64/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Nice black and tan type pour. Aroma of hints of allspice, tiny bits of squash, and a bit of roasty malts. Flavors tend to be a bit sweet up front, then blending in a bit of the roast, while kicking up the spice note towards the finish. Pleasant pumpkiny flavors throughout, while the lingering notes lean mostly onto the spices. Tiniest hint of booze in the finish as well. (373 characters)

Photo of Treyliff
3.99/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A- pours thick and pitch black with a two-finger sudsy light-tan head that has good retention, eventually leaving a small layer floating on top

S- charred wood with some smoky malt aromas, charcoal, earthy and herbal, carrot cake, sweet molasses and carob

T- roasty and smoky malt coming from the base porter with hints of carob and raisin, lots of cinnamon coming through from the spice bouquet which works nicely with the porter. Not specifically picking up any pumpkin but I can pick out the typical pumpkin spice flavors, dry finish with more cinnamon and roasted malt on the linger

M- thick and chewy body with low carbonation and a foamy and creamy mouthfeel, leading to a silky finish, just a touch of alcohol warmth at the end

O- I enjoyed this one, I think the cinnamon having more of a presence that the other spices worked nicely with the baltic porter. Very drinkable, given the ABV. I'm usually let down by all things 21st, but this one was good (962 characters)

Photo of Immortale25
3.81/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Bottom of can says Canned On: 09/09/13

A- Pours a fully opaque black color with a 1/2 inch tan head that retains decently before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some bubbly splotches of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a jagged ring behind.

S- The usual aroma of allspice, cinnamon and nutmeg for a pumpkin beer plus a bit of booze.

T- The spices come through full force in the flavor and there's a very apparent alcohol aftertaste. Still, pretty drinkable although uninspired. The dark roast tries to make itself known but is bogged down the the spice and booze.

M- Semi-thick with medium carbonation and a full body.

O- I hope the Tripel in the other half of this 4-pack is better than this. This one's just too hot. (800 characters)

Photo of bizweasel
4.37/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Of the two He Said's this is the one that has the better staying power as a beer you look forward to drinking again. And it'll be the reason I will stockpile the goofy and somewhat expensive 4pack boxes while they are still out there.
Love the color on this beer. Just a hint of that dark roast bitter making it through the spice and sugar. Lots of cinnamon and less clove, good call there guys. Coats the tongue. Goes with food or without, try some to wash down a curry, mmmm. (477 characters)

Photo of cindyjeffsmith
3.79/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

appearance: Fairly dark, nearly opaque with ruby highlights. Nice mocha swath of head and lacing.
smell: Lots happening here. Aromatic spices (e.g. cinnamon), and licorice.
taste: Start is much like the nose. Finish has more Baltic Porter. Very interesting.
overall: Nice brew. Interesting mix of pumpkin and aromatic spice with the malty smokiness of a Baltic. (361 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.78/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can - $2.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Canned on: 09/09/13.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown body. The sandy beige head, after an initial flush of suds, settles to just under a half inch, and, a few minutes later, is non-existent.

Smell: An aromatic buffet of scents: roasted malts, caraway seed, black licorice, pumpkin, moistened prunes, and a hint of chocolate.

Taste: Roasty, dark maltiness laced with prune-like dark fruitiness as well as the tangy pumpkin. A little chocolate and gooey molasses, a sprinkling of ground spice and shaved licorice. The caraway, dark fruit, roast, and a drizzle of liquor ride off into the aftertaste post the soft, smooth finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Fairly smooth on the tongue.

Overall: I'm totally okay with this beer, really. (828 characters)

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a can into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, blackish color with ruby highlights around the edges and a tall, frothy, foamy, chunky, small bubbled head that sits a solid inch and a half and is creamy tan colored. Slow recession of the head as you drink. Aromas of coffee roast , earthy notes, and subtle pumpkin notes. Pretty subtle notes past the coffee. Flavors are a little more pumpkin heavy, with rich notes coming forward in front of coffee bitter and roast, as well as some cinnamon and nutmeg spicing. Bittersweet baker's chocolate notes are present throughout the palate, also. Pretty dynamic, and more flavorful than I was expecting. Tasty brew. Robust flavors on a mid-bodied, dry feel throughout, with a tangy, rich sweet and fairly rigidly bitter undertone all through the aftertaste. The finish has a subtle linger of bitter and sweet, with more of the coffee and chocolate hanging around until the next sip. Solid beer! (952 characters)

Photo of ThickNStout
2.8/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

12oz can from Total Wine (Kennesaw, GA). 9.99/ 4 pack. Canned 9/9/13. Served in a Pumpking goblet.

Pours deep dark brown with chestnut highlights and about a finger and a half manilla head. Leaves a thin layer on top and a touch of lace.

Aromas of pumpkin pie and cocoa. A sweet, interesting blend of pie spice and roast malts.

Tastes bitter, pumpkin, spice, roast, metallic, some sort of bitter strangeness and a little booze. Interesting but lacking balance and smoothness.

Semi creamy, medium thin body with fairly lively carbonation. Spiced pumpkin, roasty chocolate malt and bitter finish.

I appreciate the effort to make something differen in a pumpkin beer with this one just doesn't work for me. (713 characters)

Photo of Keepmywitbieraboutme
3.33/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This was gifted me and a gift I'd always appreciated.

A- almost a shark eye black with pinky of tan head. Dull, not shiny, but still pleased.

S- I get the spice and roast of a normal Baltic, but I get a faint smoldered wood that I like.

T- fair roast leaving toward burnt. Cooking chocolate and biscuit. Not hating it.

M- slight thinness with which I disagree. However I could get passed it.

O- well worth the try. A nice notch on the belt if you will since I have never seen this until presented to me. (508 characters)

Photo of Chaney
3.8/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Served in a "Game of Thrones" glass.

A: Poured out as black as night and with a slight head only a shade or two lighter than the actually brew.

S: Nice smell. Milk chocolate candy, a tinge of roast, but sort of a cinnamon-esque center overall.

T: Good, but slightly boring. Still, nice cocoa nibs in the center, and some funky licorice in there as well.

M: Wish it had been a bit thicker. My first Baltic Porter from a can and not really impressed with the mouth here, epecially considering this is a high octane brew. Slight lacing.

O: This was pretty good, but since this is one of my favorite styles, the competition is pretty fierce to my mind. (653 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a standard pint glass a deep dark chocolate brown with a thinner but pretty well susteined tannish colored head atop.Spiced aromas like nutmeg,mace, and cinnamon,with some roast and a tinge of iron.A little fizzy to me in the mouth and some what light as well.Flavors of pumpkin and spice with nutmeg and cinnamon standing out mainly,a little chocolate roast round out the palate.I like the concept of this beer but it's lacking a little. (450 characters)

Photo of woodychandler
3.9/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

CAN you believe it?!? My local, in-person trader, tone77, dropped off a redundancy of CANs that leaves me totally CANflicted. I CAN only press on in support of The CANQuest (TM) in the hopes that I will not be CANsumed by the supernatural forces at work.

From the CAN: "Baltic-Style Porter Lager Brewed with Pumpkin and Spices".

My pour began with an upright Glug as I did not want any doubt remaining as to whether Bro. Woody with the Order of Disorder were an upright soul. This resulted in two fingers of dense, deep-tan head with better-than-expected retention. It were witchcraft and so I were called in to delve to the bottom of this bloody and dismal swamp. It were a witches' brew, indeed, with a deep, murky brown color (SRM = 44 +) that burbled and popped until I came near its mess. The smell emanating from it was of Hell itself - roasting pumpkins, cinnamon, allspice, eye of newt and tail of frog ... Whoops! Satan got ahold of me briefly. Suddenly, that temptress whom I CANnot rid myself of memory, The Old Lady, appeared before mine eyes. "Get thou back, thou reddish wench!" I cried out. She merely smiled and beckoned me to take a draught from her chalice, somehow replacing mine own. It were as thick as baboon's blood and as spicy as her nether regions, from which I had partaken in oh, so many weak moments! I were naught but a fallen minister and she straddled atop my mouth, pouring the CANtents of CAN after CAN into mine orifice. I cried for help but none was forthcoming. The light and love that suddenly appeared from the glass demanded that I look not directly upon it. I wept whilst The Old Lady laughed but she poured yon luscious beverage into mine gaping orifice and soon we were alone. Mine breath had been taken away by the perfume of the all of the spices.I have no further words for any/all of it but words of caution. Wanderest down yon halls of "He Said" and ye may find yeselves in yon same predicament as yon favorite pseudo-monk: F**ked, again! (1,988 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.18/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I've always been a fan of pumpkin porters- so much so that I've been known to mix a pumpkin beer with a good roasty porter. This one from the collaboration between 21st amendment and Elysian is a good one. I've always been a fan of Elysian's pumpkin festival, and their pumpkin beers in general. This beer has that pumpkin silkiness I'm looking for coupled with some judicious pumpkin pie spicing, and a nice roastiness as a counterpoint. Creamy finish, this is just what I'm looking for in a pumpkin porter. (508 characters)

Photo of dbrauneis
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark brown in color (approaching black) with light to moderate amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the edges of the glass and a amber + brown highlights. The beer has a half finger tall sudsy light beige head that reduces to a mottled thin film covering the majority of the surface of the beer and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Light to moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate aromas of pumpkin pie spices (specifically nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon) over the top of faint aromas of chocolate malts.

T: Upfront there is a very light flavor of chocolate malts with moderate to strong flavors of pumpkin pie spices (nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon). Light notes of pumpkin that add some sweetness.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Light amounts of dryness are present.

O: Overall, this does not really have any of the characteristics I would expect in a Baltic Porter but it is a really enjoyable pumpkin ale assuming that you enjoy the flavors of pumpkin pie spices. (1,055 characters)

Photo of angrybabboon
3.49/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving me a can of this

Consumed 11/28/13

Appearance: Surprisingly, remarkably dark, borderline jet black - pours with a creamy, fluffy, light tan head - impressive, solid head retention and leaves some lovely blobs of lacing

Smell: Chocolate, cocoa, and some pumpkin spices - nice range of chocolate, including burnt chocolate malts, baker's chocolate, semisweet chocolate, and cocoa - some pumpkin spices, like cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger, but they are somewhat overpowered by the burnt/roasty aromas - some burnt squash, pumpkin - some earthy aromas

Taste: It's like someone attempted to make a chocolate pumpkin loaf, burnt it, and then threw it into a pile of dirt - earthy, dirty, burnt chocolate - more chocolate malts than anticipated from the aroma, and a little less cocoa - decidedly burnt, and very earthy - some pumpkin, as well as some cooked squash - some malty sweetness and caramel - straight-up sugary sweetness - pumpkin pie spices are definitely here as well, with some cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and clove

Mouthfeel: Medium-ish body, nicely carbonated, smooth, kind of oily and sticky in the finish while simultaneously being dry

Overall: Baltic Porter + pumpkin + great brewery + great brewery = slightly better than meh?

Well, this is definitely better than the other He Said (Tripel). But I do have some issues. It's overly earthy and borderline dirty. And there is an odd amount of sweetness. Overall, after having reviewed the He Said Tripel a few hours ago, I am reaching the conclusion that while 21st Amendment and Elysian are great breweries on an individual level, they do not produce magic when collaborating. Sorry. (1,685 characters)

Photo of Joerwat
4.04/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Nose: Sweet, slightly fruity with a nice bouquet of spices, like a nice pumpkin pie. Of the usual spices, cinnamon takes the stage

mouthfeel: spices take the fore, pumpkin is far less present than on the nose.

Finish, the pumpkin-y flavor returns with a vengeance, the spice fades away to the strong, almost vegetal, but not badly so, pumpkin flavor

overall: not quite as balanced as I would like, but still fantastic.

Mixed with the Baltic porter He Said: a far more balanced nose, spices play with pumpkin to a nice backdrop of roast. Mouthfeel is fuller than either alone, and the taste is again more balanced; it's as though one only tastes the best parts of both brews. The finish is shorter, again perfectly balanced, but at the very end becomes just a tad too vegetal. I'd rate the mix at 4.85, it is so incredibly close to the perfect pumpkin beer. (860 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.77/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high tan colored head that gradually died down, leaving a thin head covering the surface and some lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of pumpkins and pumpkin spices are present in the nose.
T: The taste is dominated by flavors of pumpkin spices—nutmeg seems to stand out in particular along with hints of allspice and cinnamon.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little dry on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes a lot more like a Pumpkin Ale compared to a Baltic Porter, but when compared to pumpkin beers the taste is nearly completely dominated by spices. Provided you can handle the spices, it is easy to drink for the style. (746 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.62/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Yay cans... just reviewed this beer and lost internet somewhere before i hit submit, so lost the hwole thing, so this will be short and to the point.

A: Nice creamy foamy 1+ finger dark colored head, almost black beer.

N: Some cocoa powder, little black malt, burnt vegetables, fermented pumpkin, mild baking spices and caramel, vegetal aromas and gourd.

T: More cocoa powder, light earthy root like character with the cooked pumpkin, baking spices, caramel, hint of raisin like fruit, some herbal earhty hops with mild bitterness, little vegetable. Finish drier but not crisp, little more bitterness, more cocoa, bit more pumpkin and baking spices.

M: Med bod, little creamy, mild warming booze, decent carb.

O: Not bad but some flaws, cooked vegetables esp on the aroma are a bit of a turnoff, pumpkin was OK but a bit on the cooked side, baking spices and cocoa were nice, OK beer but could be better. (909 characters)

Photo of LI_PO12
3.83/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Can into tulip

appearance- very dark brown/black, tan head, good lacing

aroma- Chocolate, mix of spices, nutmeg, cinnamon, some coffee, dark malts, not really much actual pumpkin here, smells great

flavor- simlar to the aroma but more muddled together. Its a bit bitter and dry, but not to bad, coffee and dark malts play a bigger role here.

Mouthfeel- Medium, good carbonation, slight alcohol warmth

Overall- Pretty good, more on the Baltic porter than pumpkin but the spices mix in well. I only picked up a single and while I enjoyed it, I probably wont revisit. (570 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
3.36/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from the can into a nonic pint glass.

Deep dark walnut black, with some sliver of red, but pretty much uniform dark body caps with a large three to four finger soapy thick light tan head. Faint light cocoa color a bit also and shampoo like clumping.

Pumpkin beer like spice senses of clove and nutmeg, a little bit of chocolate senses but not much roasty character. A bit dry and almost nutty tannic, and some almost sensing pounded and fresh dried clove, quite hot.

Palate comes with a sense of good silky milk quality at first. Then there is that dry alcohol sense nearly fussel mixing in with pumpkin like spices. Charring roast adds on the aftertaste and really exacerbates the bitterness. The flavors are not gelling well, and the bitterness is not a pleasant one.

Overall it's got the spiced pumpkin profile similar to it's tripel, but it's bitterness is really not in control here and doesn't make for a very enjoyable beer experience. It's ok. (962 characters)

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.96/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer is served a dark brown, nearly black color with a bit of foam on the surface of the brew. The foam fades rather fast with it leaving behind some islands of bubbles as well as a little bit of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is heaviest of a roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of a biscuit and a rather decent pumpkin aroma. Along with these aromas are notes of caramel and molasses as well as a rather strong nutmeg, some cinnamon and a bit of an allspice smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a darker roasted malt flavor with a decent roasted pumpkin flavor and a bit of a brown bread taste. A moderately strong caramel sweetness is present from the start with it transitioning to a more molasses like flavor later as the taste advances on. While the sweeter tastes transition, they also get stronger in flavor in comparison to the roast with the sweet becoming rather large. Toward the middle of the taste, the spice that was detected in the nose comes to the tongue. While moderately strong in the nose, the spice is a bit more mild on the tongue, and with the rest of the flavors, ends up leaving a rather nice, lightly pumpkin pie spied, roasted, and sweet flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel –The body of the beer is on the medium to slightly thicker side with a carbonation level that is on the average side. Overall the body is quite nice as the thickness is good for the roasted, pumpkin, and sweet flavors all while not being too overpowering for the spiced flavors of the beer.

Overall – A rather tasty brew overall. Very much more on the Baltic porter side with just some lighter hints of the pumpkin pie tastes. A rather enjoyable sipper. (1,751 characters)

Photo of mpedara429
1.74/5  rDev -53.6%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

A: Poured out a cola color with one finger of tan colored head.

S: A lot of pumpkin and spice. Can’t make out all the spices but definitely smelling ginger.

T: The spice and pumpkin are overkill. There is a tannic bitterness that had me repeatedly sticking out my tongue. On the backside, I’m finally getting some of the roasted malt I was expecting.

M: Medium body that is a bit oily. Medium carbonation.

O: The tannic bitterness was truly unbearable and making me gag. Way over spiced to enjoy any of the good qualities that are in the background. (558 characters)

Photo of Huffs
3.47/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a sam adams glass, nice head, tan, developed with good retention and lacing. Appearance was almost black in color. Aroma had notes of pine, chocolate, coffee, spice and pumpkin. Tasted of coffee and spice, strong spice, with a bite up front. Strong spice notes of of cinnamon, allspice and cardamom. Mouthfeel was medium to full with a dry and bitter aftertaste. (374 characters)

Photo of Jackofallbrews
3.19/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

The first I'll review is the Baltic Porter, brewed with pumpkin, Vietnamese cinnamon, and caraway seed.

Aroma: Strong anise aroma, followed by some sweet cinnamon. I get a woodsy or herbal note as it warms. A bit of roastiness and some malty sweetness as well.

Appearance: Deep brown in color with ruby highlights--not totally opaque. Fine tannish head, that fades fairly quickly.

Flavor: Very strong spicing up front--gingery, liquorice or anise (probably the caraway, but I didn't know that was an ingredient at the time...) Some earthy, almost vegetal or peaty flavors. Ends somewhat roasty and dry, almost burnt coffee--more like a dry stout. Not much body in here for such a big beer. I get a bit more sweetness as it warms up.

Overall: A bit thin and dry for a Baltic porter. The combination of roast and spice with thin body lead to an astringent finish that I don't love. Spices are very strong in this one. I wanted so much more from these guys! (959 characters)

Photo of AgentMunky
3.84/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 ounce can into a St Bernardus goblet.

This is the better of the two He Saids, for sure. It pours chestnut-dark, with a hint of translucent. A finger of tight, brownish head. The nose is spiced and deep. All the usual suspects -- clove, cinnamon, nutmeg, etc. The flavor is nutty and strong, with a hint of roasted barley amidst the sea of spices. Body is moderate-light, and the aftertaste is every so faintly unpleasant. A good beer, and interesting, but perhaps not worth revisiting. (503 characters)

He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 86 ratings.