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He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

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BA SCORE
85
very good

419 Ratings
THE BROS
80
good

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Ratings: 419
Reviews: 83
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 11.53%
Wants: 12
Gots: 41 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
21st Amendment Brewery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013)
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12 ounce can from the 4 pack, into a tulip.

This is my first Baltic Porter, so I don't have others to compare it to. I'm struck by the smokiness, both in the aroma and the taste. The pumpkin? Not so much. It's there in the background, but if I didn't know this was a pumpkin ale, I might not have thought about it. There's a bit of spice, but nowhere near what you find in typical pumpkin ales.

I'd call this a dark smoky porter, with a difference, and the difference is that pumpkin/spice combo in the background. Overall, I like the combination of flavors quite a bit, and think that everything works well together. Unusual, yes, but very very good.

I first had the He Said/He Said 4 pack in 2013, and remembered that it was good. I'll be sure to pick some up every year from now on.

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Can shared with a friend. Pours dark black with tan head. Aroma of malts and spices. Taste of coffee, nutmeg, and clove. Not much of a pumpkin flavor at all. Dry finish. Very good.

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look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

No label information. He Said Baltic-Style Porter is brewed in the style of a Baltic Porter with pumpkin and spices added. Available in pairs of 12 oz. cans within the He Said/He Said Pumpkin variety pack. This can was first released in fall 2013 in collaboration with Elysian Brewing. I have a can from the first year for a vertical review comparison.

Poured from a 12 oz. can to a tulip glass. Served above 54 degrees Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a toasted cocoa head of a frothy foam consistency over a very dark brown, near black body. Retention is very good, lacing is light and streaked. 4

(Smell) Aromas of medium roasted malt, smoked peat, cocoa, pumpkin flesh, nutmeg, ginger, mace and licorice coalesce to form a uniquely complex aroma. Unlike its sister beer, the Baltic Porter does have a decent representation of pumpkin aromas to form a fairly balanced blend of two styles. The aromatics of licorice, syrupy molasses, peat malts and acidity place this beer in line as a Baltic Porter. The potency is medium. 3.75

(Taste) The flavor holds firm throughout the entire drink without much variation or finish. Mildly roasted barley, some tart acidity and the essence of stewed pumpkin with an ambitious dash of pie spices (Nutmeg, ginger, mace) and licorice. A cold smokiness lingers in the background. Overall it's somewhat more simple than the aroma gave off but still quite tasty and showcases pumpkin and fall spices surprisingly well. 3.5

(Mouthfeel) Slick, creamy and mildly dry. Carbonation generates a smooth, silky airiness for a soft, subtle mouthfeel. The body is shy of medium for the style, medium+ overall. Balance is slightly spiced over sweet. Alcohol presence is low and there are no off characters. 3.75

(Overall) This version of He Said is comparable to the Tripel ale in its quality and flavor profile. The pumpkin does a slightly better job at coming through in the flavor, although the spice profile still manages to lead the way. Overall it's a fairly easy-drinking Baltic Porter with a nice balance of Baltic porter character and pumpkin and spice additives. 3.75

Vertical Tasting Notes:

2013 (1 Year Aged): This vintage pours the same way that the fresh batch does, smooth and foamy with identical coloration and retention quality. The aroma is lacking much of the smokiness, acidity and a fair amount of the spices that the fresh vintage had, coming off more as a standard pumpkin porter or stout without these unique characteristics. The flavor is far removed from the fresh vintage, with chocolate malt, a touch of faded roast, soft meaty pumpkin and an entourage of pie spices, cinnamon and nutmeg the most prevalent. The flavor is still very enjoyable but the potential to maintain the style has faded. The texture and mouthfeel is as creamy and smooth as ever. Overall it's a decent experiment, but many of the characters that make this unique as a Baltic Porter are fragile enough that they have faded by this vintage, justifying enjoying this beer fresh in order to enjoy it at its peak of flavor. In its current state, it tastes too close to many pumpkin porters and stouts to be noteworthy.

Recommended vintage: Fresh

21st Amendment Brewery's
He Said Baltic-Style Porter
3.65/5.00

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It pours dark, almost with a hint of dread. It's got a beautiful head that, though it dissipates rather quickly, leaves behind a decent crown of lacing.

The nose is full of rich coffee and... I guess... pumpkin? I'm not quite sure what that is. Spice! Cinnamon, for sure. A melange of pumpkin pie spices, but deep and dark, rather than sweet and blooming. I almost get a bit of something woody, like saw dust or balsam on the nose. I think that's the cinnamon playing tricks on me.

The taste is roasty, deep, and vaguely bitter. Dark chocolate and coffee as one would expect, but the spices do some weird stuff... I get something reminiscent of tobacco or resinous, like... bong water. You just can't make this stuff up! Some graphite and pencil shavings, too. It's interesting, but not altogether great. I think the balance may be off here. The finish is dark chocolate, but dense brownie, but dryer than you'd think.

M: Big. Rich. Full bodied. But not as heavy as expected.

Overall... the whole is less than the sum of it's parts. The flavors are fighting here. There's no gestalt. It's lacking a unifying theme... or at least once that pulls it all together. Some interesting flavors, but not all of them are pleasant. Sorry... I've gotta drop the points down on this one.

He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
85 out of 100 based on 419 ratings.