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He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

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He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)

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Reviews: 97
Hads: 480
Avg: 3.71
pDev: 26.15%
Wants: 10
Gots: 70 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

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Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Reviews: 97 | Hads: 480
Photo of angrybabboon
3.49/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving me a can of this

Consumed 11/28/13

Appearance: Surprisingly, remarkably dark, borderline jet black - pours with a creamy, fluffy, light tan head - impressive, solid head retention and leaves some lovely blobs of lacing

Smell: Chocolate, cocoa, and some pumpkin spices - nice range of chocolate, including burnt chocolate malts, baker's chocolate, semisweet chocolate, and cocoa - some pumpkin spices, like cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger, but they are somewhat overpowered by the burnt/roasty aromas - some burnt squash, pumpkin - some earthy aromas

Taste: It's like someone attempted to make a chocolate pumpkin loaf, burnt it, and then threw it into a pile of dirt - earthy, dirty, burnt chocolate - more chocolate malts than anticipated from the aroma, and a little less cocoa - decidedly burnt, and very earthy - some pumpkin, as well as some cooked squash - some malty sweetness and caramel - straight-up sugary sweetness - pumpkin pie spices are definitely here as well, with some cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and clove

Mouthfeel: Medium-ish body, nicely carbonated, smooth, kind of oily and sticky in the finish while simultaneously being dry

Overall: Baltic Porter + pumpkin + great brewery + great brewery = slightly better than meh?

Well, this is definitely better than the other He Said (Tripel). But I do have some issues. It's overly earthy and borderline dirty. And there is an odd amount of sweetness. Overall, after having reviewed the He Said Tripel a few hours ago, I am reaching the conclusion that while 21st Amendment and Elysian are great breweries on an individual level, they do not produce magic when collaborating. Sorry.

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Photo of Joerwat
4.04/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Nose: Sweet, slightly fruity with a nice bouquet of spices, like a nice pumpkin pie. Of the usual spices, cinnamon takes the stage

mouthfeel: spices take the fore, pumpkin is far less present than on the nose.

Finish, the pumpkin-y flavor returns with a vengeance, the spice fades away to the strong, almost vegetal, but not badly so, pumpkin flavor

overall: not quite as balanced as I would like, but still fantastic.

Mixed with the Baltic porter He Said: a far more balanced nose, spices play with pumpkin to a nice backdrop of roast. Mouthfeel is fuller than either alone, and the taste is again more balanced; it's as though one only tastes the best parts of both brews. The finish is shorter, again perfectly balanced, but at the very end becomes just a tad too vegetal. I'd rate the mix at 4.85, it is so incredibly close to the perfect pumpkin beer.

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Photo of metter98
3.77/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high tan colored head that gradually died down, leaving a thin head covering the surface and some lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of pumpkins and pumpkin spices are present in the nose.
T: The taste is dominated by flavors of pumpkin spices—nutmeg seems to stand out in particular along with hints of allspice and cinnamon.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little dry on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer tastes a lot more like a Pumpkin Ale compared to a Baltic Porter, but when compared to pumpkin beers the taste is nearly completely dominated by spices. Provided you can handle the spices, it is easy to drink for the style.

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Photo of jlindros
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Yay cans... just reviewed this beer and lost internet somewhere before i hit submit, so lost the hwole thing, so this will be short and to the point.

A: Nice creamy foamy 1+ finger dark colored head, almost black beer.

N: Some cocoa powder, little black malt, burnt vegetables, fermented pumpkin, mild baking spices and caramel, vegetal aromas and gourd.

T: More cocoa powder, light earthy root like character with the cooked pumpkin, baking spices, caramel, hint of raisin like fruit, some herbal earhty hops with mild bitterness, little vegetable. Finish drier but not crisp, little more bitterness, more cocoa, bit more pumpkin and baking spices.

M: Med bod, little creamy, mild warming booze, decent carb.

O: Not bad but some flaws, cooked vegetables esp on the aroma are a bit of a turnoff, pumpkin was OK but a bit on the cooked side, baking spices and cocoa were nice, OK beer but could be better.

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Photo of LI_PO12
3.83/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Can into tulip

appearance- very dark brown/black, tan head, good lacing

aroma- Chocolate, mix of spices, nutmeg, cinnamon, some coffee, dark malts, not really much actual pumpkin here, smells great

flavor- simlar to the aroma but more muddled together. Its a bit bitter and dry, but not to bad, coffee and dark malts play a bigger role here.

Mouthfeel- Medium, good carbonation, slight alcohol warmth

Overall- Pretty good, more on the Baltic porter than pumpkin but the spices mix in well. I only picked up a single and while I enjoyed it, I probably wont revisit.

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Photo of smakawhat
3.36/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from the can into a nonic pint glass.

Deep dark walnut black, with some sliver of red, but pretty much uniform dark body caps with a large three to four finger soapy thick light tan head. Faint light cocoa color a bit also and shampoo like clumping.

Pumpkin beer like spice senses of clove and nutmeg, a little bit of chocolate senses but not much roasty character. A bit dry and almost nutty tannic, and some almost sensing pounded and fresh dried clove, quite hot.

Palate comes with a sense of good silky milk quality at first. Then there is that dry alcohol sense nearly fussel mixing in with pumpkin like spices. Charring roast adds on the aftertaste and really exacerbates the bitterness. The flavors are not gelling well, and the bitterness is not a pleasant one.

Overall it's got the spiced pumpkin profile similar to it's tripel, but it's bitterness is really not in control here and doesn't make for a very enjoyable beer experience. It's ok.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
3.96/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer is served a dark brown, nearly black color with a bit of foam on the surface of the brew. The foam fades rather fast with it leaving behind some islands of bubbles as well as a little bit of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is heaviest of a roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of a biscuit and a rather decent pumpkin aroma. Along with these aromas are notes of caramel and molasses as well as a rather strong nutmeg, some cinnamon and a bit of an allspice smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a darker roasted malt flavor with a decent roasted pumpkin flavor and a bit of a brown bread taste. A moderately strong caramel sweetness is present from the start with it transitioning to a more molasses like flavor later as the taste advances on. While the sweeter tastes transition, they also get stronger in flavor in comparison to the roast with the sweet becoming rather large. Toward the middle of the taste, the spice that was detected in the nose comes to the tongue. While moderately strong in the nose, the spice is a bit more mild on the tongue, and with the rest of the flavors, ends up leaving a rather nice, lightly pumpkin pie spied, roasted, and sweet flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel –The body of the beer is on the medium to slightly thicker side with a carbonation level that is on the average side. Overall the body is quite nice as the thickness is good for the roasted, pumpkin, and sweet flavors all while not being too overpowering for the spiced flavors of the beer.

Overall – A rather tasty brew overall. Very much more on the Baltic porter side with just some lighter hints of the pumpkin pie tastes. A rather enjoyable sipper.

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Photo of mpedara429
1.74/5  rDev -53.1%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

A: Poured out a cola color with one finger of tan colored head.

S: A lot of pumpkin and spice. Can’t make out all the spices but definitely smelling ginger.

T: The spice and pumpkin are overkill. There is a tannic bitterness that had me repeatedly sticking out my tongue. On the backside, I’m finally getting some of the roasted malt I was expecting.

M: Medium body that is a bit oily. Medium carbonation.

O: The tannic bitterness was truly unbearable and making me gag. Way over spiced to enjoy any of the good qualities that are in the background.

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Photo of Huffs
3.47/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a sam adams glass, nice head, tan, developed with good retention and lacing. Appearance was almost black in color. Aroma had notes of pine, chocolate, coffee, spice and pumpkin. Tasted of coffee and spice, strong spice, with a bite up front. Strong spice notes of of cinnamon, allspice and cardamom. Mouthfeel was medium to full with a dry and bitter aftertaste.

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Photo of Jackofallbrews
3.19/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

The first I'll review is the Baltic Porter, brewed with pumpkin, Vietnamese cinnamon, and caraway seed.

Aroma: Strong anise aroma, followed by some sweet cinnamon. I get a woodsy or herbal note as it warms. A bit of roastiness and some malty sweetness as well.

Appearance: Deep brown in color with ruby highlights--not totally opaque. Fine tannish head, that fades fairly quickly.

Flavor: Very strong spicing up front--gingery, liquorice or anise (probably the caraway, but I didn't know that was an ingredient at the time...) Some earthy, almost vegetal or peaty flavors. Ends somewhat roasty and dry, almost burnt coffee--more like a dry stout. Not much body in here for such a big beer. I get a bit more sweetness as it warms up.

Overall: A bit thin and dry for a Baltic porter. The combination of roast and spice with thin body lead to an astringent finish that I don't love. Spices are very strong in this one. I wanted so much more from these guys!

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.84/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 ounce can into a St Bernardus goblet.

This is the better of the two He Saids, for sure. It pours chestnut-dark, with a hint of translucent. A finger of tight, brownish head. The nose is spiced and deep. All the usual suspects -- clove, cinnamon, nutmeg, etc. The flavor is nutty and strong, with a hint of roasted barley amidst the sea of spices. Body is moderate-light, and the aftertaste is every so faintly unpleasant. A good beer, and interesting, but perhaps not worth revisiting.

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Photo of tone77
4.08/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. can. Has a black color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of strong coffee, lots of roasted malts. Taste is unique and good. Roasted malts, some coffee, spices, a touch of sweetness, mild hints of pumpkin, very easy drinking for the abv. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall is a fine beer.

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Photo of deschutes_fan
3.73/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

- Pours dark brown from can with a nice inch of thick tan foam.

- Smell is not very interesting, mild roasted malt and hints of spice.

- Taste is nice, smooth porter with some mild pumpkin spice notes. Light body with slightly creamy mouthfeel.

- Overall a nice drinking porter which hides the 8.2% very well. Can calls this a lager, which I guess just means cold fermentation, but that aspect was confusing. Good value at $2.50/can.

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Photo of Jason
3.51/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz can with a freshness date on the bottom.

More of a Porter than a pumpkin ale, that is the tone here. Spiced out like a fall/winter brew with some vagueness to where this is all going. Thankfully the Porter side of it all helps keep things together even if this beer is just pretty good.

LOOK: Chunky head, good trail of lacing, black in color

SMELL: Burnt wood, charred grain twang, vague spice, alcohol, chicory

TASTE: Roasted grain, very warming alcohol, perfume flair, cedar, caraway seed, mild cinnamon, burnt currants, pumpkin?, long roasty finish, semi-dry, lingering roastiness and spice

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Photo of BeerDawgs
4.28/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A 4 pack of cans released in fall of 2013. 1st appearance of an Elysian brew in GA that I know of...

A - Pitch black, dark brown, TONS of sticky lace and head left all over the glass. Impressive

S - Cinnamon X3! It dominates. Other spices, pumpkin, roasted malts.

T - Pumpkin and spices, roasted malts, delicious combination. Well done!

M - Full bodied, highly carbonated. Creamy. Nice!

O - An excellent brew. I have never had a pumpkin spice porter. Seems natural, since the pumpkin spiced latte is all the rage right now. This is better!

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Photo of chefhatt
3.6/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the can, it has a dark, rich black color body with a small tan head. The smell has a rich malt and cinnamon smell to it. The taste has a deep sweetness to it with the spices coming through, I get a little pumpkin flavor as it warms up. Moutjfeel is great and overall a really good beer.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.03/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into an Elysian snifter. Pours a very dark brown with mahogany highlights at the edges. A fine two finger very light tan head that dissipates to a persistant thick film with lots of lacing. Aroma of distinct cinnamon, roasted malt, clove and pumpkin, appealing. Flavor is mellow, sweet toasted malt, pumpkin and well handled light pumpkin pie spicing. Medium bodied with pleasant creaminess. A very nicely balanced pumpkin porter. I'm not detecting the Baltic portion of the porter because of the other flavors, but that is hardly a detraction because everything is very nicely balanced and tasty. Very nicely done. Both of these He Said ales were excellent. I hope these are an annual event.

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Photo of tigg924
4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: 1 inch head, clear, dark brown in color, high carbonation

Smell: roasted malt, cream, clove, and pumpkin seed

Taste: dark and sweet chocolate, cream, cinammon, clove, and pumpkin pulp that is present towards the end.

Mouthfeel: sweet and roasty, medium bodied with moderate-high carbonation

Overall: I was thinking I was going to like the tripel better, but I actually found this to be the better of the two beers. This is not as pumpkin forward as some other pumpkin beers I have had, but the base Baltic porter is really tasty. I would get this again.

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Photo of Cylinsier
3.79/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 oz can

Pours jet black, fine pillowy tan head dissipates very slowly. About a quarter inch thick.

Smells of molasses, roasted coffee, and toasted biscuit malts.

A bit smokey up front with mild pumpkin and nutmeg spice, followed by a bit of coffee and brown sugar. Oakey finish.

Medium to full bodied with lightly stinging carbonation on the tongue.

A very good porter, mild hints of the pumpkin, but wish there was a bit more of it. That aside, it's quite enjoyable and worth trying.

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Photo of morimech
3.5/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears black in the glass with two fingers of head that slowly settles to a thick cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left down the glass.

Aroma is a mixture of Baltic Porter and pumpkin pie spice. Nice dark malt aroma with compliments of nutmeg and cinnamon.

Flavor is a bit overpowered by the spice. The spice even feels a little hot. Not much for pumpkin but I am not disappointed in that. I think there is some nice malt flavor underneath the spice but cannot say for sure.

Has a Baltic Porter body and not a pumpkin beer body which scores points with me. Nicely carbonated.

If I read the label better and saw the word pumpkin, I never would of bought the He Said four pack. Turns out to be a better than average beer that is just too heavy handed with the spice.

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Photo of Billolick
3.96/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can, canned on 09/09/13, according to the info on the bottom ...

Pours darn near black, with a medium mocha and long lasting head, that slowly goes to fine and coating low sheeting and fine fields of scattered lacing. Nice looking beer.

Dark malts and lite chocolate on the nose.

Smooth and tasty on the tongue, I get more lite chocolate, dark malts and just a hit of the advertised "pumpkin and spices". Much better then the He Said Tripel, this one is a nicely crafted porter with subtle spicing and smooth malty/chocolate notes.

Worth a try. Quality beer in a can = good stuff

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Photo of thecheapies
4.23/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Almost three fingers of sticky light brown head after pouring the can straight into a clean snifter. Large bubbles on top act as a catalyst to sink the foam in toward the center, but height is almost surely held with hammocking stick along the inner bowl of the glass wall. Almost pitch black. Laces in coats.

Minerally vegetal note, unsweetened chocolate, anise, sultry dark roast, mace, kilned grain husks, oatmeal, seaweed, medicinal phenols, candied dried fruits, nutmeg, and faint pumpkin seed.

More traditional flavors with finishing layers of complexity. A standardly dry porter with great chew, oatmeal bitterness, well-done roast, dry cocoa notes, and a lingering sustain of pumpkin pie spices. A little minerally with low PH levels. Relaxed body with palming weight, but not tension. Gives up slowly, but surely, in the mouth with a pleasant release of gases. The body of the beer is exceptional and really plants on the taste receptors. Spices are overmatched with a great malt base. Aged hops bring forth some young pine and a twist of orange peel. Faint 'squashy' taste that I like. An exceptional porter of the Baltic style with a seasonal American twist. A fine drink for the onset of colder weather. Could be enjoyed late into the throes of winter.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.78/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

The first whiff I got of this beer was quite promising, in a baltic porter kind of way. But it ends up being a wad of spices in a more pumpkin beer interpretation. Too much clutter really. Could stand a lot sharper of a definition. Nice enough to drink, I guess. But I just don't dig the spice clogged beers. Not my preference of style for a beer, but it works.

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Photo of facundoCNB
3.84/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A dark brown almost black pour with 2 fingers of tan head which gave off an excellent amount of lacing. Smells of roasted pumpkin seeds, coffee, toasted bread.
The flavor is mostly up front with nutmeg and clove, a bit of dark chocolate and coffee kick in towards the finish.
Medium in body, mil carbonation.

This beer is great for a pumpkin beer, note that it's also my fort of this season. I grew to loathe the style, but this I a nice different take on it. A perfect balance between sweet and roasted flavors, it's something I'd consider picking up again. I'm gonna let the ther can age for a bit and hope that there's less of the spice so I can enjoy the base beer for what it is.

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Photo of QuentinCall
3.54/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A beer that almost demands staunch apologists -- defensible but unremarkable, curious but still blatantly attuned to the public consciousness -- and as such, something that might very possibly become remembered for being better than it was. What I'm saying is, if one felt compelled to compare it to a firm point in the Sam Raimi filmography, the logical conclusion would, overwhelmingly, be Darkman.

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He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 97 ratings.