He Said (Baltic Porter) - 21st Amendment Brewery

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He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)

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441 Ratings
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Ratings: 441
Reviews: 89
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 11.8%
Wants: 11
Gots: 48 | FT: 0
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Fall

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Beer added by: Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Ratings: 441 | Reviews: 89
Photo of Huffs
3.47/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a sam adams glass, nice head, tan, developed with good retention and lacing. Appearance was almost black in color. Aroma had notes of pine, chocolate, coffee, spice and pumpkin. Tasted of coffee and spice, strong spice, with a bite up front. Strong spice notes of of cinnamon, allspice and cardamom. Mouthfeel was medium to full with a dry and bitter aftertaste.

Photo of Jackofallbrews
3.19/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

The first I'll review is the Baltic Porter, brewed with pumpkin, Vietnamese cinnamon, and caraway seed.

Aroma: Strong anise aroma, followed by some sweet cinnamon. I get a woodsy or herbal note as it warms. A bit of roastiness and some malty sweetness as well.

Appearance: Deep brown in color with ruby highlights--not totally opaque. Fine tannish head, that fades fairly quickly.

Flavor: Very strong spicing up front--gingery, liquorice or anise (probably the caraway, but I didn't know that was an ingredient at the time...) Some earthy, almost vegetal or peaty flavors. Ends somewhat roasty and dry, almost burnt coffee--more like a dry stout. Not much body in here for such a big beer. I get a bit more sweetness as it warms up.

Overall: A bit thin and dry for a Baltic porter. The combination of roast and spice with thin body lead to an astringent finish that I don't love. Spices are very strong in this one. I wanted so much more from these guys!

Photo of AgentMunky
3.84/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 ounce can into a St Bernardus goblet.

This is the better of the two He Saids, for sure. It pours chestnut-dark, with a hint of translucent. A finger of tight, brownish head. The nose is spiced and deep. All the usual suspects -- clove, cinnamon, nutmeg, etc. The flavor is nutty and strong, with a hint of roasted barley amidst the sea of spices. Body is moderate-light, and the aftertaste is every so faintly unpleasant. A good beer, and interesting, but perhaps not worth revisiting.

Photo of tone77
4.08/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. can. Has a black color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of strong coffee, lots of roasted malts. Taste is unique and good. Roasted malts, some coffee, spices, a touch of sweetness, mild hints of pumpkin, very easy drinking for the abv. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall is a fine beer.

Photo of deschutes_fan
3.73/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

- Pours dark brown from can with a nice inch of thick tan foam.

- Smell is not very interesting, mild roasted malt and hints of spice.

- Taste is nice, smooth porter with some mild pumpkin spice notes. Light body with slightly creamy mouthfeel.

- Overall a nice drinking porter which hides the 8.2% very well. Can calls this a lager, which I guess just means cold fermentation, but that aspect was confusing. Good value at $2.50/can.

Photo of Jason
3.51/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz can with a freshness date on the bottom.

More of a Porter than a pumpkin ale, that is the tone here. Spiced out like a fall/winter brew with some vagueness to where this is all going. Thankfully the Porter side of it all helps keep things together even if this beer is just pretty good.

LOOK: Chunky head, good trail of lacing, black in color

SMELL: Burnt wood, charred grain twang, vague spice, alcohol, chicory

TASTE: Roasted grain, very warming alcohol, perfume flair, cedar, caraway seed, mild cinnamon, burnt currants, pumpkin?, long roasty finish, semi-dry, lingering roastiness and spice

Photo of BeerDawgs
4.28/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A 4 pack of cans released in fall of 2013. 1st appearance of an Elysian brew in GA that I know of...

A - Pitch black, dark brown, TONS of sticky lace and head left all over the glass. Impressive

S - Cinnamon X3! It dominates. Other spices, pumpkin, roasted malts.

T - Pumpkin and spices, roasted malts, delicious combination. Well done!

M - Full bodied, highly carbonated. Creamy. Nice!

O - An excellent brew. I have never had a pumpkin spice porter. Seems natural, since the pumpkin spiced latte is all the rage right now. This is better!

Photo of chefhatt
3.6/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the can, it has a dark, rich black color body with a small tan head. The smell has a rich malt and cinnamon smell to it. The taste has a deep sweetness to it with the spices coming through, I get a little pumpkin flavor as it warms up. Moutjfeel is great and overall a really good beer.

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.03/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into an Elysian snifter. Pours a very dark brown with mahogany highlights at the edges. A fine two finger very light tan head that dissipates to a persistant thick film with lots of lacing. Aroma of distinct cinnamon, roasted malt, clove and pumpkin, appealing. Flavor is mellow, sweet toasted malt, pumpkin and well handled light pumpkin pie spicing. Medium bodied with pleasant creaminess. A very nicely balanced pumpkin porter. I'm not detecting the Baltic portion of the porter because of the other flavors, but that is hardly a detraction because everything is very nicely balanced and tasty. Very nicely done. Both of these He Said ales were excellent. I hope these are an annual event.

Photo of tigg924
4/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: 1 inch head, clear, dark brown in color, high carbonation

Smell: roasted malt, cream, clove, and pumpkin seed

Taste: dark and sweet chocolate, cream, cinammon, clove, and pumpkin pulp that is present towards the end.

Mouthfeel: sweet and roasty, medium bodied with moderate-high carbonation

Overall: I was thinking I was going to like the tripel better, but I actually found this to be the better of the two beers. This is not as pumpkin forward as some other pumpkin beers I have had, but the base Baltic porter is really tasty. I would get this again.

Photo of Cylinsier
3.79/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 oz can

Pours jet black, fine pillowy tan head dissipates very slowly. About a quarter inch thick.

Smells of molasses, roasted coffee, and toasted biscuit malts.

A bit smokey up front with mild pumpkin and nutmeg spice, followed by a bit of coffee and brown sugar. Oakey finish.

Medium to full bodied with lightly stinging carbonation on the tongue.

A very good porter, mild hints of the pumpkin, but wish there was a bit more of it. That aside, it's quite enjoyable and worth trying.

Photo of morimech
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears black in the glass with two fingers of head that slowly settles to a thick cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left down the glass.

Aroma is a mixture of Baltic Porter and pumpkin pie spice. Nice dark malt aroma with compliments of nutmeg and cinnamon.

Flavor is a bit overpowered by the spice. The spice even feels a little hot. Not much for pumpkin but I am not disappointed in that. I think there is some nice malt flavor underneath the spice but cannot say for sure.

Has a Baltic Porter body and not a pumpkin beer body which scores points with me. Nicely carbonated.

If I read the label better and saw the word pumpkin, I never would of bought the He Said four pack. Turns out to be a better than average beer that is just too heavy handed with the spice.

Photo of Billolick
3.96/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can, canned on 09/09/13, according to the info on the bottom ...

Pours darn near black, with a medium mocha and long lasting head, that slowly goes to fine and coating low sheeting and fine fields of scattered lacing. Nice looking beer.

Dark malts and lite chocolate on the nose.

Smooth and tasty on the tongue, I get more lite chocolate, dark malts and just a hit of the advertised "pumpkin and spices". Much better then the He Said Tripel, this one is a nicely crafted porter with subtle spicing and smooth malty/chocolate notes.

Worth a try. Quality beer in a can = good stuff

Photo of thecheapies
4.23/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Almost three fingers of sticky light brown head after pouring the can straight into a clean snifter. Large bubbles on top act as a catalyst to sink the foam in toward the center, but height is almost surely held with hammocking stick along the inner bowl of the glass wall. Almost pitch black. Laces in coats.

Minerally vegetal note, unsweetened chocolate, anise, sultry dark roast, mace, kilned grain husks, oatmeal, seaweed, medicinal phenols, candied dried fruits, nutmeg, and faint pumpkin seed.

More traditional flavors with finishing layers of complexity. A standardly dry porter with great chew, oatmeal bitterness, well-done roast, dry cocoa notes, and a lingering sustain of pumpkin pie spices. A little minerally with low PH levels. Relaxed body with palming weight, but not tension. Gives up slowly, but surely, in the mouth with a pleasant release of gases. The body of the beer is exceptional and really plants on the taste receptors. Spices are overmatched with a great malt base. Aged hops bring forth some young pine and a twist of orange peel. Faint 'squashy' taste that I like. An exceptional porter of the Baltic style with a seasonal American twist. A fine drink for the onset of colder weather. Could be enjoyed late into the throes of winter.

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.78/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

The first whiff I got of this beer was quite promising, in a baltic porter kind of way. But it ends up being a wad of spices in a more pumpkin beer interpretation. Too much clutter really. Could stand a lot sharper of a definition. Nice enough to drink, I guess. But I just don't dig the spice clogged beers. Not my preference of style for a beer, but it works.

Photo of facundoCNB
3.84/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A dark brown almost black pour with 2 fingers of tan head which gave off an excellent amount of lacing. Smells of roasted pumpkin seeds, coffee, toasted bread.
The flavor is mostly up front with nutmeg and clove, a bit of dark chocolate and coffee kick in towards the finish.
Medium in body, mil carbonation.

This beer is great for a pumpkin beer, note that it's also my fort of this season. I grew to loathe the style, but this I a nice different take on it. A perfect balance between sweet and roasted flavors, it's something I'd consider picking up again. I'm gonna let the ther can age for a bit and hope that there's less of the spice so I can enjoy the base beer for what it is.

Photo of QuentinCall
3.54/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A beer that almost demands staunch apologists -- defensible but unremarkable, curious but still blatantly attuned to the public consciousness -- and as such, something that might very possibly become remembered for being better than it was. What I'm saying is, if one felt compelled to compare it to a firm point in the Sam Raimi filmography, the logical conclusion would, overwhelmingly, be Darkman.

Photo of mdcflacal
3.74/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Looks good. Poured out of a can. Decent looking brown head that dissipated quickly. Dark brown without quite being black.
Smells of malt sweetness and spices.
Nice mouthfeel, with a decent amount of lively carbonation. Feels dry and doesn't coat the mouth.
Taste the spices prominently. As it warms the flavor seems to verge more on herbal. Possibly due to the flavor of the malts adding a bit of astringency. Controlled amount of sweetness.
Aside from the herbal character, I found this beer to be a nice take on pumpkin beer. Fun one that I would like to drink again.

Photo of qchic
3.9/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown with some light passing through the edges. Thinning tan head. Nice aroma with a bit going on: milk chocolate, nutmeg, touch of smoke. Am I actually smelling pumpkin, our is that just malt sweetness? Taste is more intense than expected with plenty of bitterness throughout. Chocolate becomes darker in the flavor, and anise pops up. Pumpkin is subtle on the tongue initially and in the finish, and I prefer not being knocked over the head with it. Sweet cinnamon, mmm. Just enough to leo you drinking this heart brew. A nice one to run into--try it.

Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.06/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

Appearance: Nearly straight black with a creamy dark khaki head. Super creamy with a moderate retention. Pretty standard affair for the style.

Smell: Roasted malt with some old coffee. Spice component runs heavy on cinnamon and nutmeg with some backing clove and allspice. A touch of pumpkin flesh buried in there. Some sweeter canned pumpkin with a hint of shortbread and pie crust. Buttery with so men Cocos thrown in the mix. Dark chocolate pumpkin bread without the sweetness.

Taste: Roasted pumpkin seeds. A touch of bitter citrus rind. Some serious pumpkin spice with a ton of clove and cinnamon. Nutmeg and allspice make an appearance. Roasted malts help balance some of the more assertive spice notes. Cocoa dusted pumpkin flesh. A bit vegetal in the back. Bitter, almost charred on the back. Some.caramelized sweetness. Burnt chocolate pumpkin bread.

Mouthfeel: Slightly creamy medium body with a moderate carbonation. A bit bubbly with a relatively clean finish.

Overall: He said with melancholy.

It's a bit rough around the edges. Spice runs a bit too high and the malts help when cold, but warming makes it a bit more jarring.

Photo of Reidrover
3.77/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz can from"Lifesource" in Salem OR $2.59 Poured into my snifter this is a black black beer with a very large frothy and creamy tan head. Attractive. Nice creamy sugar cookie aromas,dark berries and slight alcohol. Nice Taste is the same as the aroma but with pumpkin showing..salty pumpkin with some cinnamon. Nice mouth feel smooth and silky. I like Baltic Porters and this is OK..sadly would have been better without the pumpkin IMO

Photo of Slatetank
3.67/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed this can from the mix 4pack in a tulip chilled.

The color is black like dark roast coffee with a tan head The lace clings like webbing. The smell is spicey with a woody fragrance which is also malty but mildly vegetal with light cinnamon odor. The feel is strong and spiced with a creamy yeast feel with toasted middle. The feel brings a more spiced presence with alcohol and light sweetness in the finish.

The taste has a roasted grain flavor with subtle dark fruit and moderate amount of spice with a generally cinnamon dominant warming flavor with some nutty vegetal taste and mild light yeast fruitiness in the finish. Overall this is interesting and worth trying...I like the concept more than the actual beer but if you like spiced beers or strong porters it is more enjoyable than most.

Photo of BB1313
3.9/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Collaboration with Elysian Brewing

Canned on 9/9/13. 12oz can poured into a tulip. Pours black with some subtle auburn hues; fluffy khaki head that leaves great lacing and retention. The aromas are full of chocolate malts, cinnamon, and has subtle hints of anise/black licorice. The flavors are pretty roasty. Lots of roasted barley and cocoa malts. Dark chocolate is there giving this one a nice bitterness. Very earthy and rustic. The cinnamon and ginger come through. Some nutmeg and allspice in the mix. Maybe even some peppermint? It finishes slightly spicy with a subtle warmth. Alcohol goes unnoticed for the most part. Mouthfeel is full-bodied; creamy with active carbonation. Cool beer and it's somewhat complex as well. Becomes even more enjoyable as it warms up.

I like this. It's a very nice beer from 21st Amendment and Elysian. They deliver with a perfect balance between chocolate and pumpkin spices. Recommended.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.74/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Paid $2.50 for the can.
A - My what creamy head we got here! Very deep color head thats well over two inches poured that sticks around for a bit. Beer itself is quite dark not pitch with just a bit of brown hue in the base.
S - Smells has a bit of mocha and roast, cinnamon and nutmeg for sure. Not overly sweet or vegital more of just a spice porter in the smell.
T - A bit more drying than your typical Baltic porter mostly due to dialed back roast flavors. Not getting much chocolate or pumpkin and only a mild tingle of cinnamon and nutmeg,
M - Light to medium, quite creamy. Smooth drinking for over 8%

Overall it's not terrible but again nothing worth getting again. An interesting take on a pumpkin beer but it seems every time I try a dark pumpkin beer I am disappointed.

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

rb

For me this is MUCH more approachable than the Triple.. decent 1" head drops back leaving good lacing... the brew is standard black.

Bigger spices than I appreciate, but they are reigned in by the darker malt presence.. Asian cinnamon... and something else I cannot put my palate on.. I dig this one, it isn't over done at all. Good roastiness and trailing off to a sorta sweet cinnamon essence.

Med/Light bodied with a lighter carbonation helps make this feel more full and lend toward a slow-down as I enjoy it.

3.5 across the board.

He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 441 ratings.