Fireside Chat - 21st Amendment Brewery

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Reviews: 314
Hads: 1,063
rAvg: 3.34
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 35
Gots: 154 | FT: 0
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21st Amendment Brewery visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Winter Warmer |  7.90% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: elgiacomo on 10-19-2010

Like FDR’s Depression-era radio addresses, which were like a kick in the butt and a hug at the same time, our Fireside Chat is a subtle twist on the traditional seasonal brew. We begin with a rich, dark, English-style ale and then we improvise with spices until we know we have a beer worth sharing with the nation.

Fireside Chat is our early winter seasonal brew available from October through December in six pack cans and on draft. Brewed like a classic, warming Strong Ale but with a subtle blend of hand-selected spices for just the right festive flair.
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Photo of SLeffler27
3.11/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

L - Clear dark brown modest short lived kaki head, that leaves thin rings of lace.
A - Some malt, some spice, the spice seems obligatory and out of place.
F - Similar to nose; balanced, muddy spices. Modest finish.
M - Medium body, light alcohol, properly carbonated, a bit of a slick texture.
O - This is an ok beer, but who is expecting, "ok" from a Winter Warmer? The muddyness and out of context spice diminishes the drinkability. If you order this beer, you will still enjoy your meal, but it would be nice if 21st Amendment cleans it up. (546 characters)

Photo of twloco
2/5  rDev -40.1%

like all their beers, outsourced "brewed" in Cold Springs, MN.
NOT AN SF BREWERY!
This tastes like toilet water through the bathroom potpourri of the season.
I guess it's ok from a place that usually makes FourLoco and energy drinks.
It's just not really a "beer" anymore that Stroh's is. It's a product. Contact them! you can have your own brew made there! they do if for many! (379 characters)

Photo of udfan07
4/5  rDev +19.8%

You can really taste the chocolate and toffee taste. It definitely has some spiced notes while drinking it. Really enjoyed this brown ale and would have this again for sure (174 characters)

Photo of logicalparadox
3.25/5  rDev -2.7%

Nice. Malts provide just enough backbone, with a toasty, chocolate character that is nevertheless subdued. Hint of bubblegum and just maybe a hint of marshmallow. I bet this would be great fireside. (198 characters)

Photo of BEERMILER12
3.59/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a dark mahogany color with 2+ fingers of head that fades down to a nice cap that leaves some good lacing

S: Malty with quite a bit of Christmas spices going. Cinnamon, nutmeg, and allspice to name a few. Fairly straight forward

T: Follows the nose. Very malty with a mix of the Christmas spices thrown in. Alcohol adds a little kick. Finishes with lingering semi-bitter malt and spices

M: Medium-full bodied with moderate carbonation

O: Could use a little sweetness, as the spices take over even with the big maltiness. Alcohol starts to interfere as it warms up as well. A good sipper as long as it doesn't warm up too much, which kind of detracts from that point. Interesting to say the least (707 characters)

Photo of glass_house
3.49/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. can poured into a snifter

Pours a deep dark brown with maroon accents when held to the light. One finger of loose off-white head quickly fizzles to a thin collar with minimal lacing. Aroma is dominated by ripe dark fruit, molasses, and spice. Raisins, figs, prunes, clove, and a bit of toffee present an intriguing blend.

Taste starts with more fruit. Sweet plum and concord grapeskin lead off, then yield to a warm spicy middle. The toffee comes out again with subtle chocolate notes before a dry finish alongside some burnt black coffee, which leaves a lingering mild bitterness. There seems to be an out-of-place cola sweetness throughout. Medium, slightly sticky body is complemented well by just enough firm carbonation to make it lively. Pretty smooth, given the abv.

Overall, probably not one I'll try again. Just feels like it starts to go in so many directions, but doesn't follow through on any of them. Does it want to be a doppelbock? Eisbock? Porter? Belgian strong dark? Not terrible by any means, just seems a little disjointed. (1,053 characters)

Photo of dar482
3.56/5  rDev +6.6%

The beer comes in a reddish dark brown.

The aroma offers red cherries, candy sweetness, almost a Belgian quality of spiciness.

The flavor hits in the front of toasted malt and caramel sweetness towards a brown ale. The sweetness carries on through the mid palate, but then the beer dies down slightly aggressively to a strange aftertaste towards the spices, phenolic, or just abrasive.

The beer is decently better than the rating suggests.

84/100. (451 characters)

Photo of Shikitohno
4/5  rDev +19.8%

Certainly better than Harpoon's winter warmer, this one almost suffers from the opposite problem: not quite enough spices to it. It's there, but could use a little bit more oomph. Still, I prefer the more lightly spiced option. (229 characters)

Photo of Antikythera
3.75/5  rDev +12.3%

This is a tasty, substantial brown ale for winter. It tastes distinctly... warm... but if I didn't know there were spices I might not notice them. Certainly can't identify them. A little too easy-drinking for something that's almost 8% abv. Nice to find something new that isn't overwhelmingly hoppy against style. (314 characters)

Photo of Roser
3.5/5  rDev +4.8%

A- semi clear/opaque (dark but let a little light through). Dark Amber, mahogany brown. Big bubbly mocha head that lasted a good bit. Nice lacing.

S- clean, malty, spices and clove. Dark chocolate.

T- bitter, toasted malt, spicy (and sweet).

M- light body (surprisingly). Smooth and creamy. Very little carbonation.

O- so so/ok. After seeing and smelling, the taste and mouthfeel disappointed. Was expecting more. Not a bad beer, but nothing noteworthy.

Cheers! (469 characters)

Photo of brongladest
3.5/5  rDev +4.8%

A: deep amber, transparent
S: malty, grainy, bit spicy
T: malty, spicy, a bit grainy, mild bitterness, lingering alcohol
MF: medium to big body, creamy
Overall: a,solid brew, i would quaf a few with pleasure (208 characters)

Photo of dank203
3.79/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

really dark, almost pitch black with frothy, light brn head. aromas are slightly boozy, fig, raisin, coacoa, vanilla, cinnamon. taste of brown sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg, coacoa, vanilla, fig, all blended with a kiss of black cherry. feel is solid, just enough carbonation and smoothness (286 characters)

Photo of Kimchi270
3.75/5  rDev +12.3%

Poured out of a 12oz can into a pint glass. Fireside chat pours a dark molasses brown with a prominent off white head about two fingers I length. It leaves a light lacing with a head that dissipates quickly. Smell is an upfront sticky sweetness with a hard spice undertone. Heavy clove and nutmeg with a molasses finish. Taste is of upfront spice and molds into a nice sweetness, in the middle I'm picking up aged fruit, dried figs or currants with a light alcohol astringent at the end (not at all bad for a 7.9% beer). Mouthfeel is slightly syrupy with a mild carbonation that I feel really suits the style. Overall this is the first beer in the "winter warmer" category I have ever tried and I will be returning! A very smooth spiced beer that won't overpower. (763 characters)

Photo of fscottkey
3.37/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: [4.5] Deep gorgeous red to brown color. It looks a lot like a craft root beer in the glass. Forms a 2 finger head when poured. The head is dense off white foam. The can lists the best by date 01/07/15) and the IBUs 45 and the ABV 7.9%(+1 for the trifecta!)

S: [3.00] The smell is sticky spiced candy.

T: [3.25] Not like other beers I have tried before. The spices are not overpowering but they do cover any traditional beer taste. This is like a beer with cider spices in it. I can't discern individual flavor notes.

M: [3.75] Decent body and carbonation. No sense of alcohol even at 7.9%

O: [3.50] This is a new variety and taste to me. It was not like any beer I have had. It is not bad - but it is not something I would seek out again. The nose was a tad weak and I couldn't pick out individual flavors. As the beer warms I feel like it is tasting more like a Scotch Ale with spices. (908 characters)

Photo of Jeffreysan
4.75/5  rDev +42.2%

12 oz. can, 2014 edition poured into a goblet

Appearance: Pours a beautiful, deep, dark, completely opaque, mahogany color with two full fingers of white head that dissolved away into a thin lacing of foam that completely covered the top of the beer.

Aroma: Strong notes of toasted malt, dried stone fruit, winter spices such as clove, cinnamon, nutmeg, orange peel, ginger, dark molasses and a touch of dark chocolate. Smells great!

Taste: Exactly like its aroma. Strong flavors of toasted malt, followed by strong flavors of dried stone fruit such as prunes, raisins, figs, apricots and dates, followed by candied sugar and Belgian yeast, and finally, some great flavors of spices such as clove, cinnamon, nutmeg, orange peel and ginger. Delicious!

Mouth feel: Medium to slightly chewy and pretty smooth, as there is very little in the way of carbonation. With an ABV of 7.9%, there is just a slight touch, a hint really, of alcohol on the palate.

Overall: Wow! Another great beer from 21st Amendment!! Tons of malt, stone fruit and spices! Delicious!! (1,072 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.26/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

When cooler weather comes calling, so does the flock to indoor convening- hovering around the fire for bar banter and cosmos riddling. And the San "by God" Francisco brewery makes a beer for such the occasion.

Fireside Chat opens with the common brown ale charm. Its dark chocolaty austere highlights its initial toffee, nutty and sweeter malt tones while aromas of butter pecan, walnut, chocolate and toast waft about.

Spicy introductions are made upon the middle palate as the creamy but semi-dry ale balances that malt sweetness with the supple spices of coffee and allspice- lead by cinnamon. Yet as delicate clove and nutmeg round out the beer's juicy malt center, its bigger-than-usual taste and effects take hold.

Drying alcohol and fleeting malt sweetness gives the ale a semi-sweet finish, creating crevices in taste that allow for the strong astringency from spice to balance the beer more so than hop additions. Those broad an woodsy hops are no match for the tannin-heavy unsettling that comes with those excessively boiled tea and spent coffee ground flavors.

While the ale simmers in the glass like coffee- there's a lot of promise in its taste. Allowing the spices to join the process in more post-fermentation usage would have retained the delicate oils from the spices and without leaching its brash tannin. (1,328 characters)

Photo of BigBry
3.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

6 pack of cans, one more for the collection, picked up last time I was in California.
Dark brown color, tan head. Good looking mug full of beer. Sweet and a bit nutty aroma, plus some other spices.
Flavor has the same spice, cinnamon, all-spice, nutmeg: but not as strong as some pumpkin ales.
Smooth and creamy, dry finish.
Enjoyable, especially in front of the crackling fire, for a winter warmer. (401 characters)

Photo of watermelon
3.81/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz can poured into a tulip glass. Date on the can says bottled on 10/08/13

A: Dark opaque brown body with 1.5 finger khaki head tons of lacing and great retention.

S: Lots of cinnamon and nutmeg. MAybes some other spices I cant make out. Its a pretty standard smell the style.

T: Follows the nose, along with some carmel and toasted flavors.

M: Mouthfeel is alright could be a bit thicker, theres a slight astringency on the finish. The booze is hidden well.

O: Im not super impressed buy it, but its fairly decent and above average for the price point, I'll probably get it again eventually. (603 characters)

Photo of superspak
3.88/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce can in to tulip glass, canned on 10/14/2013. Pours lightly cloudy dark ruby red color with a 2 finger dense light khaki head with great retention, that reduces to small cap that lingers. Spotty foamy lacing clings around the glass, with some moderate streaming carbonation. Aromas of big brown sugar, molasses, raisin, prune, ginger, cinnamon, clove, dark bread, light roast, toast, and herbal earthiness. Nice aromas with good complexity of malt, yeast, and spice notes; with good strength. Strength of spices is a bit too much in the nose. Taste of chocolate, cocoa, caramel, brown sugar, raisin, cinnamon, ginger, clove, brown bread, light coffee, toast, and herbal earthiness. Lingering notes of chocolate, cocoa, caramel, brown sugar, raisin, cinnamon, clove, ginger, brown bread, light coffee, and herbal earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of dark malt and spice flavors; with a great malt/spice balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a moderately slick and smooth mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is a very nice winter warmer style. All around good balance, robustness, and complexity of malt and spice flavors; and very smooth sip on. A very enjoyable offering. (1,356 characters)

Photo of Reidrover
4/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz can from"Lifesource" in Salem OR $2 ( i think). Pours a nice solid tawny brown with a large thick and frothy cream coloured head. Odd smells a bit like a spicy Christmas pudding..with rum cream on top..actually brings back memories and is very nice. Taste also is akin to British Christmas pudding..fruity,malty,dark,nutty absolutely a gem! Mouth feel is grand and easy at the same time. carbonated well. a lot of mediocre scores here..but this is just a great beer for me..invokes Christmases past. (505 characters)

Photo of Mojo
3.83/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

12 ounce can -> snifter glass

A - pours up a deep mahogany brown with a one finger tan colored head, not much in the way of retention except for a thin ring of foam, and only small amounts of lacing.

S - subtle nose with floral, bread, and earthy notes most prominent.

T - Caramel malts dominate with a roasted finish. Kind of one dimensional though.

M - thin like a brown ale, decent carbonation, no aftertaste

O - not a bad offering but I'd be lying if I said this is anything more than just okay. (507 characters)

Photo of jhawth
3.54/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Poured from a can into a willibecher glass. Pours a deep brown with amber edges, 1.5-finger creamy off-white head. Decent lacing.

Aroma: Huge spice (cinnamon and nutmeg predominate) character up front, some rich fruit character, slight sweet bready malt presence.

Taste: Rich, fruity malt character, same spice character as in aroma (though more subdued), some alcohol, and a slight, almost smoke-like twinge.

Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied.

Overall: Interesting, enjoyable, but not particularly surprising or delicious. (538 characters)

Photo of jhartley
4.1/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz can, imprinted on the bottom: Canned on 10/14/2013

A: Dark brown body; dark red when held up to the light. 1 finger light tan head, which receded rather quickly. A little lacing left on the glass.

S: Spices, cinnamon, burnt sugar, ginger.

T/M: Just like it smells! Tons of spices right up front, rounded at with a nutty brown ale type sweetness on the end. A little heavy on the carbonation for me, but as it warms it evens out.

O: A very nice winter warmer style that is a nice accompaniment to a cold winter's night! Can easily enjoy a couple of these during the winter time on a snowy night, or day for that matter. (642 characters)

Photo of nittoh
3.63/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Strong spicy aroma. But it does not overly strong but mild. ``Shoyu'' like aroma. It may come from oxidation.
Color is deep brown. Small head and disappear quickly. Clear.
Flavor is also spicy. It remains until the finish. Malty. Strong hop character.
Medium-full body, warmly from alcoholic. Strong carbonation.
Hop character should be weaker for the balance but good spice ale. (379 characters)

Photo of CFHMagnet
3.84/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

I get a sandy colored half finger of head. Retention is rather decent. The body is a rich brown with ruby notes. A bit of lace clings to the glass.

Smells like a well spiced winter beer. Cinnamon, nutmeg, roasted malt.

To the nose really, with an earthy taste set in as well. Malt up front, spices crash in and follow.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied. It doesn't bog down, and leaves just a little residue. (409 characters)

Fireside Chat from 21st Amendment Brewery
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