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Fantôme La Gourmande - Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

107 Ratings
THE BROS
94
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Ratings: 107
Reviews: 89
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 8.43%
Wants: 59
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 05-25-2003

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.
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Ratings: 107 | Reviews: 89
Photo of stakem
4.14/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

'02 vintage poured into matching ghost tulip. The cork comes off with a resounding pop and the brew appears a clear light golden copper color with constantly streaming bubbles supporting the half finger off-white cap. A beautiful lacing effect leaves stringy to web-like patterns along the wall of the glass.

The aroma is slightly earthen, fruity like orange meets cork, citrus zest, minerals and classic fantome funkiness. More whiffs provide a fruity alcohol tingle.

The taste is dry and earthy with some sips, than others showcase more of a fruited quality like a blend of pear and apple. Some straw-like to grassy grain quality is present with more funky fantome aspects into the finish with a mild hint of cork. An herbal hop touch is felt as it warms but it offers up little to no bitterness. This beer is all about the dry grain character meets funk and fruity alcohol.

This is a vigorously carbonated beverage thats sits light and tingly on the tongue. It presents a very strange and enjoyable sipping experience. Its quite dry and earthy yet some caramelized malt flavors are present blending with fruity alcohol that suggests sweetness but it isnt. Not showing nearly the amount of oxidation you would expect in a 13 year old saison. Classic fantome juice.

Photo of ehammond1
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Bottle (2004)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, FalconA!

(Aged for 9 years)

A cloudy amber with a moderately-thick, creamy, off-white head. Fairly sticky, and plenty of carbonation, even after nearly a decade in the bottle. Good amounts of floating, chunky sediment, though even more is left at the bottom of the bottle. Certainly appropriate, and almost pretty.

A nice, integrated, earthy aroma. Combinations of roasted apple sprinkled with cinnamon emerges, and is quite expressive. Good amounts of earth, grass, and dried, cracking, crumbling Fall leaves as well. This smells like a Winter or Fall saison, if I'd ever experienced one.

The earth and dried leaves present in the flavor as well. The earth and leaves present a funky bitterness. Along with this, there is also good amounts of the apple and cinnamon character found in the aroma. Very drinkable. Alcohol is well hidden. As with the aroma, this has a distinctly Fall or Winter feel about it.

Medium bodied. Moderate to high carbonation. Very appropriate. Time didn't hurt this aspect.

Delicious, interesting, complex, though still not one of my favorite Fantomes--granted, Fantome is, arguably, my favorite brewery around.

Photo of cfrances33
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2004 bottle, enjoyed on 12/19/12. Served in a Hill Farmstead stem.

Pour: Murky burgundy, with a two fingers of light tan, soapy head. Leaves some solid lacing. Head hangs around for a while.

Smell: Up front, big lactic tones and some molasses. Gives way to figs and dates, and some lemon juice. Light caramel, and a light balsamic vinegar. Finishes on the nose with a lemony tartness.

Taste: Follows the nose with a big lactic tartness, and lots of lemon juice. Some pear skin. A big molasses comes through, with some nice caramel. A light oak (is this aged on oak for any period?). Finishes with red wine tannins and some lemon tartness.

Mouthfeel: Really light for the flavors it produces, which is really quite nice. Good carb, and the tartness is just right.

Overall: Time did another Fantome well. I'm very lucky to have stumbled across this bottle and have a chance to try it. Delicious!

Photo of corby112
3.97/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to Umberto for opening this during our epic night of drinking at the Goblin Pub in Pavullo nel Frignano, Italy.

Pours a very cloudy, bright golden orange color with tangerine edges and a half finger off-white head that quickly settles into a thin ring that soon dissapears. Not much in the way of lacing.

This beer has a very complex aroma with lambic, farmhouse and wheat beer notes bouncing off of each other. Lots of earthy funk with hints of barrel, wet hay and cobweb along with zesty autumnal spice, bready yeast, citrus and light fruit notes. Slight herbal/vegetal presence with lemon peel, pepper, bread and apple. Really odd combination but the nose is pretty inviting.

Medium bodied and again, very complex with hints of lambic, saison, vegetable/spiced beer and wheat notes playing off of one another. Slightly tart and puckering with a decent amount of earthy funk followed by zesty spice, bread, sweet malt, light fruit and citrus. A decent amount of sourness but not harsh or acidic. More funk than anyhing else with grass, straw, hey and wood flavor. There's also peppery spice with coriander, cinnamon and clove followed by caramel malt, apple, pear and bread. A truly unique beer. I don't really know what to make of it because it's so weird but it's very complex and quite flavorful.

Photo of zhanson88
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is a 2004 vintage from what I have been told. Big props to Rbald42 for hooking me up with a bottle of this.

Appearance: Pours a very clear, warm honey color that nears a copper tone. Pleasant amount of carbonation that I'm very happy to see. A huge white head forms that has extremely good retention and lacing. Very good looking beer.

Smell: Pretty nice bouquet on this beer. Some white grape and pear comes out initially, followed by some juicy melon notes, earthiness, and very light funk.

Taste: Melon notes and green apple, earthy funk, finish is dry with a touch of lemon.

Mouthfeel/Overall: Light to medium bodied, ample carbonation that is about right for the style. Overall, really enjoyed this beer. Very good vintage saison from Fantome. Really impressed with how well this held up.

Photo of womencantsail
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle at Fantome-a-thon 2012

Bottle from 2002, I believe. A cloudy golden orange color with a big white head. Really an interesting nose. Lots of perfume and melon notes. A hint of cork, unfortunately. A fair amount of citrus and some white grape. Decently sweet on the palate with good fruit notes (mostly citrus and grape, though there is some sweet melon). A touch of bread and yeast without much in the way of cork as there was on the nose.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2004 bottle opened on 7.27.12

A - Pours a slightly hazy amber-orange with a one inch off-white head that fades very slowly.

S - Green apples, funky, slight oxidation is present.

T - Sour green apple, subtle barnyard funk.

D - Surprisingly good carbonation with a lighter body. Mild oxidation.

O - 8 years old. Nice funk and apple taste. Oxidation doesn't really hurt it.

Photo of claaark13
4.08/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to jedwards, I will get to try this one after all. 2003 bottle served at cellar temp.

A - Pours a light orange with a foamy white head. LOTS of carbonation. Retains very well.

S - Musty, spiced grass. Some brightness shines through, maybe a hit of lemon.

T - Light spiced lemongrass, slightest notes of tartness. Some of the Fantome barnyard funk/must comes through. Slightly dry on the finish.

M - Light to medium, right where it should be. Carbonation is right once the head goes down.

O - Another perfect example of how well Fantome can brew the Saison style.

Photo of DenverLogan
4.11/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark amber...small floaty head. Aroma is complex...fruity, cherry, almost a touch of oxidation but not quite significant yet! Tasty but not at its peak as may have been present at fresh release. Still, totally intriguing, tasty, and something I could drown a 22 oz of without hesitation....great tasting experience.

Photo of HopHead84
4.12/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2/25/2012

Thanks for sharing! Snifter. 2003.

A: Dark orange with an enormous mousse-like head. Lacing is scattered.

S: Pronounced vinous notes with lemon zest and green apple. Earth blends with grain and pepper. I get a little leather with Brett and funk. Smells very good.

T: Earth blends with wheat and rustic farmhouse notes. Lemon and apple are pronounced. The beer has a subtle wine-like fruitiness to it. The finish is dry.

M: Lower medium body with upper high carbonation.

Overall: A pleasure to drink. Wonderful in its subtlety.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

four inches of foam came pouring out of this one and then easily doubled in size, never fully coming back down. Rich side glass lace and tons of carbonation then engulfed it quickly. Very nice hazy golden yellow in color.

The aroma was charged with spice, it was so carbonated it was literally tickling my nose as it went by. Lots of light fruit, grain, touches of grass and peppery like notes along with a touch of sour, the flavor was more of the same and was very nicely done. No hint of the alcohol here, rather a finely blended, and very light and airy feel to it. Sloshing it around created that coveted silky feeling of foam in the mouth. This was very good. Lots of light citrus flavors bouncing around and a very dry finish, a touch sour but not really, Very earthy in nature, and yet very light with a nice light grain base and a wonderful champagne like finish

Photo of Doodler
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml - split with an old friend from Austin. Poured a golden amber with a light brown head. Nose of green apples and a nice barnyard funkiness. Flavor was just as funky, with some bready yeast notes . Nice malts and fruit backbone. Wine barrel flavors pop up as it warms. Mildly carbed, Finishes soft, slightly sweet with a lingering spice palate, Yummy yummy stuff .

Photo of kingcrowing
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured at Ebenezers into a wine glass.

Pours a dark brown with a small light brown head, smells like the ocean, a bit malty and quite rich.

Taste is crisp smooth and tart with a light hop bite, it's very earthy and mellow. Almost like a brown Belgian. Mouthfeel is full and rich, overall be your good!

Photo of tai4ji2x
3.11/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

from an awesome trade w/ rbald42

750ml green bottle, cork+cap. no date. label notching scheme not utilized.

from notes, tasted in june 2009. poured into tulip glass.

very hazy, coppery honey orange color. 1.5-finger off-white head of fine foam, recedes to thin wispy layer. a couple thin rings of lace.

aroma: funky tropical fruitiness, grapefruit pith and rind (but not like american hops). overripe pears. musty hay, hint of grapefruit juice w/ lots of rind... almost acrid... spice and mild phenols, but it's all just weird.

taste: tart, fruity tropical weirdness again, w/ that acrid grapefruit rind bitterness (yet not like fresh american hops). funky. some bread, yeast and spice peeking through. but that weird character from before still dominates.

medium body, but thin at times. acidic and astringent into the finish, mellowing out slightly in the end. mild to moderate carbonation has slight tingle, some body, but in the end just accentuates the acidity and the acrid grapefruit/tropical weirdness.

dammit, fantome, what happened?

Photo of BieresDesMoines
4.81/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a very hazy yellow with a very small head. The aroma is funky with cedar and tobacco with some lemon rind and some amazing earthiness. The flavor is cigar wrapper leaf with a mild sourness and plenty of spicy herbal and earthy notes. This beer was made for me almost perfection in a glass.

Photo of Jwale73
4.1/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2003 vintage broken out by jedwards (thanks jonah). Pours a pale orange-gold with a quarter inch, loose, bright white head. Aromas suggests grapefruit and cork - there is a dryness to the nose. Taste consistent with nose - muted; however, some light fruit also comes out in the mix. Mouthfeel is light-medium (but closer to light) with a lively effervescence and a semi-dry finish. A great Saison. Easy drinking and really quite refreshing; not to mention that this beer has held up quite well over time.

Photo of jneiswender
4.02/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Had on from a bottle at Ebenezer's Pub in Maine. Poured into a chalice. Served cool.

A-rusty, burnt orange body and an off white head. Rings nicely.

S-hay, rust

T-sour, citrus peel, fruit stone,

M-medium, somewhat gritty

D-nice but not the best in this category. Would pair nicely with food. I would drink this beer again.

Photo of callmemickey
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Ruddy brown body. One finger off-white head. Quickly receded leaving a bit of sheet like lacing at first, but eventually leaving very little behind.

S: Earthy. Caramel, a little brown sugar, the slightest bit of brown sugar, mushroom, earthy hops and just the slightest bit of sour cherries. Sharp up front but becomes muted fairly quickly.

T: Like the nose this is very earthy. I think the best way to describe this saison is that it has all the characteristics of a good steak (without the meat taste). Mushroom, browned butter, and that earthy flavor from the outside of the steak. Not particularly funky. The hints of sour cherries in the nose are no longer present.

M: Smooth, medium bodied brew with a nice gentle (but not insufficient) carbonation. Refreshing in a savory kind of way.

D: I don't know how frequently I'd be in the mood for this saison (unlike the regular saison which I could drink everyday), but I have to admit I really enjoyed this one. This is a fairly old beer at this point... many thanks to stowehop

Photo of ccrida
4.8/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2003 vintage, poured into my precious Fantôme tulip. La Gourmande is a clear gold with a huge, dense white head that is slow and rocky settling, leaving nice hunk of lace.

Smell is out of this world. Wow. Nice clean sweetness, floral notes, a hint of damp forest, moss, or wet wood. As it warms, there's a nice herbal note, almost like it was dry hopped - although I'd be surprised if I picked much of that up after 6 years!

Taste is very nice, and surprisingly clean. Again, it's sweet and floral, the slightest hint of acetic acid, really more of a green apple note, granny smiths. There's also a very clean cork taste, not 'corked', but of cork (the cork itself was in perfect condition), which, in combination with the green apples, has a very fresh mushroom taste, wow! This beer is at first blush pretty strait forward, but peering a bit deeper reveals unreal depth of flavor. If this had a little of that classic Fantôme lacto (which I thought was still around in '03, but I guess I'm getting older then I realized), it would be a perfect 5.

Mouthfeel is light, fluffy and smooth.

Drinkability is surreal, I love this beer, why is it 6 years out of production??!! Damn, its good. I was expecting more the lactic bomb that I recall the regular Fantôme saison from this era, but this is so tasty, classic saison, it doesn't matter. Picked this up from Bottleworks during their 10th anniversary...I normally wouldn't give them any props, but they clearly cellared this properly, and didn't even charge much markup ($25)!

Photo of JohnQVegas
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle, first batch, @ Ebenezer's.

Pours cloudy dark reddish-brown, big off-white head.

Aroma is a hint of brown sugar, sour green apples.

Taste is a quick initial hit of brown sugar, quickly overtaken by a fresh soft green apple sourness and hints of barnyard. Hint of very earthy hops poke through a good way into the mild, sour finish.

Soft but crisp carbonation over a medium body.

Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.48/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to tthomas for this in a trade!

A- Body is a slightly hazy translucent murky tarnished gold hue. Pours with a big foamy white head that eventually fades almost completely. Cloudiness is thick and dynamic.

S- A ton of vinegar is upfront. Underneath this is grain, some funk, must, caramel, and a slight floral hoppiness.

T- Taste is much like the nose and its hard to get past the vinegar-though it is not extreme (like in Duchesse). Beneath this is apples and pears upfront with a spicy accent. A hint of hops come through for the finish but is masked by a vinegar tartness. Some funk lingers.

M- Nice full carbonation and a thick yeasty body. Pretty smooth.

D- Decent beer overall but a little bit too much vinegar for me. The complexity behind it isn't really enough to make up for it either. ABV is undetectable.

Photo of beerthulhu
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a dark cranberry-burnt orange color with a thin off tan head.

S: Spicy aroma, light caramel, fresh apples, wildflowers and some candi sugar sweetness.

T: Sweet caramel, molassess and brown sugar provide a sweet spiciness against a light and creamy malt backbone. Apples, pears, and a cider like texture with some alcohol spiciness as well. Flavor is very clean throughout with a touch of chocolate in the finish. For the fade there is some spicy apples and cinnamon, pears and light caramel notes with a touch of citrus. Very good complexity and flavor.

M: well carbonated, fruity, and lively.

D: great drinkability as will most of thier beers. the hard part is breathing inbetween sips as you want this great flavor constantly on your tongue.

Photo of brewandbbq
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours hazy chestnut with a two-inch head of beige. The dense foam receded slowly leaving some decent lacework before dissapating to a partial skim-coat.

Aromatics lead off with a blend of caramel, nuts, green apples, bitter greens, freshly turned sod, strawberry tops, and cherry pits.
Hints of almonds, freshly skinned bark, and musty cider follow through.

Medium bodied, creamy and a bit crisp. Fairly dry and a finely carbonated mouthfeel.

Light malt, cocoa dust, and apple skins start the pallet. Ripe fruit and grassy undertones follow through along with lemon-spritzed caramel.

Finishes lightly tart with lingering cherry skins, fresh cut hay, and apple pulp.

I was surprised at the restrained amount of sourness and acid. Very balanced, highly refreshing and extremely quaffable.

Bottle courtesy of BA Delerium..Thanks bro!

Photo of jwc215
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 ml cork capped bottle:

Pours hazed dark caramel-colored, brownish amber with a thick off-white head that immediately settles to a small bubbled cover that vanishes. Some trailing lace slides down the glass without much stickage.

The smell is sour and vinuous with caramel and a light spicing almost reminiscent of a pumpkin pie spicing.

The taste is sour - vinegary. Caramel is mixed in. Tart fruitiness and sour apple mix with a yeasty breadiness. Herbal spicing is there, but subtle. Finishes sour with a bit of sweetness. Slightly warming, though alcohol is pretty well-covered.

Understated carbonation leaves it a bit underwhelming, while maintaining a lighter side of medium body.

Not nearly as impressed with this one as with the other three offerings I've had from this brewery (Fantome, La Dalmatienne, Chocolat). A bit too sour - bordering vinegary - masking some of the potential spiciness, and a bit weakish. Still, it would pair well with certain foods. Oddly, cheesecake came to mind, though I didn't have any on hand to try it out. Might also replace a Flemish sour ale that is mildly sour for style, or a gueuze that is not quite as funky.

Photo of aforbes10
4.71/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bought a bottle of this on recommendation of Dan at City Wide Liquors. Cork broke when i tried to open it but i finally got it out. Poured with a big white head, which i let settle....and then....wow! that's a beautiful beer! Sublime orange color with a steady, quarter inch head and bubbles rising consistently. Looks sparkly and great. Odor is mildly tart with earthy,citrus and bready tones. Smells fresh and alive. I said "wow" when i looked at it, and i said "wow" again when i tasted it. A dry, citrusy flavor up front with a hint of familiar barnyardy brett. This is followed by a growing smoke flavor that melds fantastically with the tanerine citrus quality. This beer tastes like the fruit of the Earth incarnate. Mouthfeel is soft and smooth and somewhat creamy in a light bodied kind of way. This is hardly my first saison, but in a way it feels like it is my first. An amazing experience of a beer.

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Fantôme La Gourmande from Brasserie Fantôme
92 out of 100 based on 107 ratings.