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Fantôme La Gourmande - Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

103 Ratings
THE BROS
95
world-class

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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 8.65%
Wants: 60
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 05-25-2003)
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Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy orangy color, some carbonation, the head fizzles away quickly, very light lacing around the edges. Scents of yeast, malts, slight hops, spices, apples, and grapes. The taste is slightly tangy, slightly bitter, citrusy, with a nice dry finish. Medium body, a well rounded/complex brew. Alcohol content is hidden very well. Very drinkable, this is a totally different kind of saison compared to Saison Dupont. Highly recommended will buy again if available.

Wasatch, Nov 19, 2006
Photo of Georgiabeer
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a medium golden with a white frothy head that takes a while to settle. Pretty good lacing. The smell is fairly faint, there is a definite delicate sourness and a pretty floral aroma- hard to define, but its not hoplike, more like an alpine meadow. The taste and mouthfeel are light, crisp, and lemony sour with a spicy coriander like aftertaste. This one is not acetic really, its more like there is the tiniest hint of verjus blended in. Lemon cream on the finish. A little lighter and spicier than some of the other Fantome offerings. Refreshing, and great on a hot day, but lacks some of the complexity of the best that Fantome has to offer.

Georgiabeer, May 08, 2007
Photo of CelticAleMan
4/5  rDev -3.8%

CelticAleMan, May 09, 2013
Photo of Holland
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Holland, Jun 01, 2014
Photo of BillHilly
4/5  rDev -3.8%

BillHilly, Aug 29, 2012
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pristine tangerine with fewer bubbles than I'm used to seeing in a Belgian saison. No surprise that the cap is thing of beauty. The pastel orange foam is a little too firm to be called mousse-like, a characteristic that allows it to persist seemingly forever. Very little lace graces the glass and even less manages to hang on.

I don't drink beer from this brewery as often as I'd like, so it's hard to remember what each one smells like. It seems to me though that each offering's nose is slightly different (and very good), while retaining a 'house similarity', for want of a better phrase. This one is mildly farmhouse funky, warmly spicy and a little herbal.

I wondered how a wheat saison would taste and now I have my answer. La Gourmande is impressively sour while retaining the spicy yeastiness and orchard fruitiness that Fantome is known for. Each sip is an exercise in puckeriness and acidity that would make many a Flanders red proud. In fact, I wonder if this beer uses a different yeast strain since it's hard to believe that this degree of tartness is completely wheat-related.

To be more precise, spelt is the grain used (epeautre on the label), not the typical wheat that most wheat/wit/weizen beers use. While it's a simply another species of the same grain, who knows, maybe it tastes vastly different when used in brewing. In any case, something is giving the beer a dizzinging amount of sourness and makes it stand out from the rest of the Fantome line.

Green apples, unripe pears and lemon zest make up the bulk of the flavor profile, as the usual yeasty spiciness takes a backseat. I'm not sure if this beer is brewed year-round or if it's a seasonal, but it seems to me to be a perfect summer beer. The body favors the lighter end of the spectrum even without a ridiculous amount of carbonation. Fewer bubbles means that 750 ml should be no problem at all on a hot day. Or any day at all.

I appreciate what the brewer attempted to do with La Gourmande. It's just that the sourness is cumulative and is beginning to wear on me now that I've entered the final third of the bottle. Less than average Fantome beer is still light years ahead of average. If that isn't the mark of a world-class brewery, then I don't know what is.

BuckeyeNation, Aug 30, 2006
Photo of corby112
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to Umberto for opening this during our epic night of drinking at the Goblin Pub in Pavullo nel Frignano, Italy.

Pours a very cloudy, bright golden orange color with tangerine edges and a half finger off-white head that quickly settles into a thin ring that soon dissapears. Not much in the way of lacing.

This beer has a very complex aroma with lambic, farmhouse and wheat beer notes bouncing off of each other. Lots of earthy funk with hints of barrel, wet hay and cobweb along with zesty autumnal spice, bready yeast, citrus and light fruit notes. Slight herbal/vegetal presence with lemon peel, pepper, bread and apple. Really odd combination but the nose is pretty inviting.

Medium bodied and again, very complex with hints of lambic, saison, vegetable/spiced beer and wheat notes playing off of one another. Slightly tart and puckering with a decent amount of earthy funk followed by zesty spice, bread, sweet malt, light fruit and citrus. A decent amount of sourness but not harsh or acidic. More funk than anyhing else with grass, straw, hey and wood flavor. There's also peppery spice with coriander, cinnamon and clove followed by caramel malt, apple, pear and bread. A truly unique beer. I don't really know what to make of it because it's so weird but it's very complex and quite flavorful.

corby112, Sep 04, 2012
Photo of ehammond1
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Bottle (2004)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, FalconA!

(Aged for 9 years)

A cloudy amber with a moderately-thick, creamy, off-white head. Fairly sticky, and plenty of carbonation, even after nearly a decade in the bottle. Good amounts of floating, chunky sediment, though even more is left at the bottom of the bottle. Certainly appropriate, and almost pretty.

A nice, integrated, earthy aroma. Combinations of roasted apple sprinkled with cinnamon emerges, and is quite expressive. Good amounts of earth, grass, and dried, cracking, crumbling Fall leaves as well. This smells like a Winter or Fall saison, if I'd ever experienced one.

The earth and dried leaves present in the flavor as well. The earth and leaves present a funky bitterness. Along with this, there is also good amounts of the apple and cinnamon character found in the aroma. Very drinkable. Alcohol is well hidden. As with the aroma, this has a distinctly Fall or Winter feel about it.

Medium bodied. Moderate to high carbonation. Very appropriate. Time didn't hurt this aspect.

Delicious, interesting, complex, though still not one of my favorite Fantomes--granted, Fantome is, arguably, my favorite brewery around.

ehammond1, Jul 23, 2013
Photo of Realale
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Lovely full gold. Large fluffy white head that settles to an incomplete cap, but erupts again with each pour.

Lots of bready malt, and a pleasant yeastiness dominate the nose. Touch of phenol and a bit of limey citrus.

Medium weight in the mouth where the copious malt combines seamlessly with the yeasty notes. Hint of hop flavor and bitterness comes out with food. Nice length. Tastes funkier, in a good way, when the sediment is swirled into the beer.

Great bottle-conditioned mouthfeel, with the sofness of the carbonation a real complement to the overall subtleness of this beer. Great to quaff in quantity, excellent with food, and worthy of contemplation on its own. Certainly Duvel-esque, but with a bit of Fantome funk. Nice beer.

Realale, Mar 28, 2004
Photo of MrSeth
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours an opaque, earthy golden yellow with a 1 1/2" white head. The comparisons with champagne are noticable even in the appearance. It begins with a very bubbly pour.

The nose is earthy, spicy, with a tomato ketchup and hard cider edge, also a touch of yeast.

It starts alot like a geuze, the slightest hint of sweetness is rolled over by a dry sourness that gives a bubbly-champagney mouthfeel and finishes quite clean. There is a fresh baked sourdough bread kind of taste to it.

This is a splendid weekend lunch brew. It has alot of potential as an aperitif. I'm sure it was made to be enjoyed over a long and easy-going afternoon.

My thanks to the crew at Federal Wine for hooking me up with another fine brew. Cheers!

MrSeth, May 28, 2005
Photo of Dukeofearl
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A 750 ml green champagne bottle full of a golden, rich (thick) looking slightly cloudy brew with a full, rich, creamy looking head that drops to 1/4" and stays there. Very pretty.

Aroma is first a sharp organic attack, followed by a slightly sweet, citrusy and slightly spicy

Flavor is lemony/tart orange, with a nice hop overtone, and a strong alcohol attack at the back of the throat. Spiciness is there, not subtle, not overpowering. There's a lot going on here.

Mouthfeel is rich and full. I'm still fairly new to Saisons, so I don't know how close to the style it is, but I like it!

Overall a pretty tasty brew- not something I think I would drink a lot of, but on the right occasion, pretty nice. Paired it with a pesto-tomato pizza- not bad combination, where the two organic flavors play off against one another.

Dukeofearl, May 20, 2005
Photo of winomark
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pale gold, slightly hazy with a gigantic light tan head. Sour aromas rule the nose. Mild malt tones also noticable. Mild but flavorful palate. Malt adds some sweetness. Really smooth and round with just a slight bitterness/sourness on the finish. Light mouthfeel. Nothing offensive or overpowering. What a great introduction to the beers of Fantome. A nice, mild saison. Easy drinking and something worth a try when you start to venture into this style. Good stuff.

winomark, Nov 12, 2004
Photo of gonzo138
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A-pours a cloudy orange-golden color, has very little head that did not retain or lace well

S-has the typical belgian farmhouse aromas, semi tart, a little citrusy, not as spicey as other saisons but still nice

T-complements smell, citrus flavor is very present, not too spiced, has a somewhat bitter sweetness to the finish

M- light in body, low carbonation for a saison, moderate dry feel

D- goes down very easy, a nice saison, not my favorite one (for either the style or the brewery) but still very nice, would probly drink/buy again

gonzo138, Oct 05, 2006
Photo of Jredner
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Whoah..unexpected aroma. Woody, almost cedary with lots of spiciness, citrus zest, hay must and fresh mown grass. The body is a brownish/orange but fairly bright. The head is a fluffy two finger thick Belgian classic that is constant as the northern star....immovable indeed. Slightlyt woody in the fore...very spicy...lemon peper seasoning almost...citrus and pepper are very concentrated. Sweet orange, apricot jam flavors throught the middle. Some apple notes. If you can work up a burp you’ll notice some mildewey/funky aromas lingering in the air in front of your nose....nice! I love how Fantome beers can seem so low key and yet still sooo damn concentrated and full of range. That cedar like woodiness lingering into the far aftertaste is amazing.

Jredner, Nov 14, 2006
Photo of grassrootsVT
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

shared a bottle, poured into nicey wine glass.
pours with little to no carbonation, no head retention [no head to retain!!], due, likely, to the high acidity of the beer. boy, was i surprised with this one!! i was expecting something along the line of the blaugies spelt saison, judging by the name of the beer. i was mistaken. this certainly is, at first impression, a pseudo lambic....the fantome yeast character is still present in the nose and the taste, but it appears that some sour barnyard character has blended with the house strain. is it lactic? brett?
a highly drinkable [for the style] sour. color is about the same as the standard saison - an amber orange - this one smells of earthy funk, musty, lemony citrus...some sort of shampoo like character [i'm using the nature's gate organic stuff...mint?].
i'm impressed with this one, but not enough to return to it time and again. one bottle is enough for me...there is one more waiting for me in my basement, perhaps the carbonation level and the appearance will fare better.... i would prefer to return to their other products...is it just me or are people's scores for this one inflated like the grading scale in some ivy league university?
to class this as a gueze, perhaps, may be a better style orientation. i understand that saison is an 'open' and interpretive style...but...??

grassrootsVT, Nov 12, 2005
Photo of Sammy
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A sour beer that I liked but very unpopular with me mates. They thought it like a tasteless cider. Beige yellow. My mature tastebuds found it a very good yeast preparation. In the yeast peach, lemon, celery, pepper. Very good with spicy veggie food. Lambic like. Unique.

Sammy, Aug 18, 2004
Photo of womencantsail
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle at Fantome-a-thon 2012

Bottle from 2002, I believe. A cloudy golden orange color with a big white head. Really an interesting nose. Lots of perfume and melon notes. A hint of cork, unfortunately. A fair amount of citrus and some white grape. Decently sweet on the palate with good fruit notes (mostly citrus and grape, though there is some sweet melon). A touch of bread and yeast without much in the way of cork as there was on the nose.

womencantsail, Jul 30, 2012
Photo of Joss
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Citrus, peaches and yeast notes for the nose.
Attractive cloudy orange and a creamy head for the eye.
Fruit (oranges prominent), a bit bubblegum (when the beer warms up) and spice for the palate.
Prickling dryish mouthfeel, light to medium body, slightly bready aftertaste.

Joss, Nov 14, 2003
Photo of beerguy101
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Light gold color. Medium head. Aroma is malty and slightly citrus. A medium bodied beer. Malty, yeasty and slightly grainy. Some fruit flavors, peaches. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean. Aftertaste is slightly sweet. Not the typical Fantome label.

beerguy101, Aug 13, 2003
Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Bu11zeye: Poured a hazy medium beige color ale with big foamy head with good retention and great lacing. Aroma is quite sour with some funky yeast also discernable. Taste is a mix between sourness and some oak as well as some light funky yeast and it finished on some dry notes. Body is full with some great carbonation. Another interesting experiment from this brewer which doesn’t meet all my expectation (a bit too dry and more funk would have improve this beer) but it is still enjoyable and wouldn’t mind having another go at.

Phyl21ca, Jul 13, 2007
Photo of jwc215
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 ml cork capped bottle:

Pours hazed dark caramel-colored, brownish amber with a thick off-white head that immediately settles to a small bubbled cover that vanishes. Some trailing lace slides down the glass without much stickage.

The smell is sour and vinuous with caramel and a light spicing almost reminiscent of a pumpkin pie spicing.

The taste is sour - vinegary. Caramel is mixed in. Tart fruitiness and sour apple mix with a yeasty breadiness. Herbal spicing is there, but subtle. Finishes sour with a bit of sweetness. Slightly warming, though alcohol is pretty well-covered.

Understated carbonation leaves it a bit underwhelming, while maintaining a lighter side of medium body.

Not nearly as impressed with this one as with the other three offerings I've had from this brewery (Fantome, La Dalmatienne, Chocolat). A bit too sour - bordering vinegary - masking some of the potential spiciness, and a bit weakish. Still, it would pair well with certain foods. Oddly, cheesecake came to mind, though I didn't have any on hand to try it out. Might also replace a Flemish sour ale that is mildly sour for style, or a gueuze that is not quite as funky.

jwc215, May 22, 2008
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3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

ygtbsm94, Jan 05, 2012
Photo of jdhilt
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that goes quickly to a ring leaving some lace. Cloudy amber color with some yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Yeasty/hoppy nose. Flavor is mild spice and woody herbs. Clean finish. $18.00 for a 750ml corked bottle from Ebenezer's Restaurant and Pub Lovell, ME.

jdhilt, Aug 24, 2007
Photo of GuinnessSmurf
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 750ml bottle, wine corked and capped overtop. Poured into a goblet glass. $14-

Appearance: Cloudy, champagne color with a thin swirl of frothy head on top. There are fine bubbles rising in the body of the beer.

Smell: The odor is generally sweet and wheaty...like sweet bread.

Taste: Dry wheat/barley/malt onset. Bitterness hits the back/roof of the mouth and lingers for quite some time.

Mouthfeel: Very wet body, not heavy at all. A light and enjoyable texture that keeps this beer very festive.

Drinkability: I think if I bought this again, I'd serve it in a champagne flute. It would be better. Its a little thin in flavor, but otherwise a good beer to try. Not sure if it is worth $14.

GuinnessSmurf, Dec 03, 2004
Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.48/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to tthomas for this in a trade!

A- Body is a slightly hazy translucent murky tarnished gold hue. Pours with a big foamy white head that eventually fades almost completely. Cloudiness is thick and dynamic.

S- A ton of vinegar is upfront. Underneath this is grain, some funk, must, caramel, and a slight floral hoppiness.

T- Taste is much like the nose and its hard to get past the vinegar-though it is not extreme (like in Duchesse). Beneath this is apples and pears upfront with a spicy accent. A hint of hops come through for the finish but is masked by a vinegar tartness. Some funk lingers.

M- Nice full carbonation and a thick yeasty body. Pretty smooth.

D- Decent beer overall but a little bit too much vinegar for me. The complexity behind it isn't really enough to make up for it either. ABV is undetectable.

PittBeerGirl, Apr 09, 2009
Fantôme La Gourmande from Brasserie Fantôme
92 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.