Fantôme / Jester King Del Rey - Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
77
okay

47 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 47
Reviews: 10
rAvg: 3.33
pDev: 20.12%
Wants: 10
Gots: 11 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: yourefragile on 06-11-2014)
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Photo of Rochefort10nh
1.94/5  rDev -41.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 1.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

Label is sexy as fuck. The beer- not so much. Turbid deep gold with notable carbonation. Smells sweet and sickly. Cooked corn, mushroom and vomit. Awful.

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2.1/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2

BOTTLE: 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green (ugh...) glass. Has Fantome's signature cap design: an unbranded silver pry-off cap over an internally housed cork.

Imported by the Shelton Bastards. Expectations are sky high; Fantome is the best saison brewer worldwide as far as I'm concerned, and Jester King is no slouch either.

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to warm over the course of consumption.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 3 fingers wide. White colour. Aptly creamy, full, and thick. Retains well - for abut 7-8 minutes. No lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Vibrant mango-copper colour. Translucent but nontransparent. Glows.

Appears well-carbonated - perhaps overly so. It's not a unique or special looking saison, but it does look good - though I hoped for visible yeast sediment and a bit less apparent filtration. Where's the saison haziness?

AROMA: Overt, strong aromatic intensity: notes of heavy funkiness (including perhaps some off-putting gym sock notes in addition to the usual brettanomyces barnyard character), overripe fruit peel, hints of lemon zest, Belgian pale malts, and vague spices - white pepper, maybe? Its most pleasant note is sweetbread, complemented nicely by fruitcake - but then, this is meant to be a saison... It lacks the intricate spice profile I've come to expect from Fantome, and doesn't boast a Dupont-esque milkiness either. The funkiness seems out of control and based on the aroma the yeast character seems off. Off-putting notes of cheese/mold, and bitter rind don't help. I'm not too sure about this one...

TASTE: Hmm...tastes more like a Belgian pale ale or Belgian IPA than a saison. Dominant notes of fruitcake and sweetbread eclipse any intricate spicing which may otherwise have been present; the lack of white pepper is a big disappointment. The out-of-control yeasty funkiness runs rampant, throwing out notes of mold, cheese, and bitter rind, but none of the refined barnyard character you'd hope for from brettanomyces. Don't look for Dupont-esque milkiness; you won't find it. Nor will you find the peppery spiciness both Jester King and Fantome do so well in their own respective saison style beers. I wonder if this is another victim of the collaboration craze.

Belgian pale malts. Generic floral hop character. Biscuity yeast. A sour apple off note. Overripe fruit is so sweet it bothers, but the one-two punch of the off-putting sweetness and the equally off-putting rind-y bitterness is dreadful. Phenolic as all hell; the yeast weren't happy eating the malts in this one...

It's wholly imbalanced to the extent that it never quite feels like a gestalt whole - and I'd go so far to say that it misses the style entirely. Flavour duration, depth, and intensity are average. Lacks the complexity/intricacy needed to succeed as a saison.

If I consider it an infected Belgian pale, I find myself enjoying it a bit more. In any case, it's clear this needs serious work. I just don't like it.

TEXTURE: Smooth, wet, supple, nicely soft, near perfectly carbonated, and medium-bodied. Great overall presence on the palate. It's a shame the flavour profile provides little nuance or intricacy for this well-executed mouthfeel to accentuate.

Not gushed, oily, hot, boozy, scratchy, rough, or dragging on the palate.

OVERALL: Not the world class offering I hoped for given the breweries involved. Fantome is known to suffer from severe batch variation, but the subpar scores for this specific beer indicate the entire batch maybe should not have made it to market. To it credit, it does disguise its ABV well; I'd guess it's about 6% from taste alone. I'll finish it and forget it. Disappointing coming from the best saison producer in the world, but not undrinkable. What happened?

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The off-notes (especially the phenols) grow more and more rampant as it warms. Drink cold if you must drink it.

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4/5  rDev +20.1%

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3.75/5  rDev +12.6%

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3.32/5  rDev -0.3%

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3.6/5  rDev +8.1%

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3/5  rDev -9.9%

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3.75/5  rDev +12.6%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.3/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a murky orange-brown with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, earth, spice, funk, and skunk aromas. Taste is much the same with grain, earth, spice, and funk flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice and funk bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is an above average beer with a skunk presence that detracts from the drinkability on this one.

Serving type: bottle.

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3.7/5  rDev +11.1%

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3.75/5  rDev +12.6%

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2/5  rDev -39.9%

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4.25/5  rDev +27.6%

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3.64/5  rDev +9.3%

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3.8/5  rDev +14.1%

It's hard for me to understand why this beer is so lowly rated. Hard because it doesn't have a particularly strong or unusual flavour: i.e., it doesn't seem like a "love it or hate it" beer (let alone a plain "hate it"). I think it is quite good. A bit funky, some spices and fruit, and a strong dose of sweet malt. The sweetness is a bit much and the aftertaste is a bit tiresome, but otherwise it is quite good. I wouldn't hunt it out nor would I buy it again, but unless there is huge variation between the bottles (which is possible), I don't understand the hatred for this beer.

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3/5  rDev -9.9%

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2.5/5  rDev -24.9%

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2.5/5  rDev -24.9%

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3.76/5  rDev +12.9%

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4.25/5  rDev +27.6%

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3.6/5  rDev +8.1%

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3.5/5  rDev +5.1%

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.08/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Cloudy orange. Medium white head. Big collar.

Smell - Citrusy and a little toasty. Kinda bready and fruity. Very yeasty.

Taste - Fruity and doughy yeastiness up front. Citrus behind it. Very odd sickly sweet flavor followed by an aggressive toasty bitterness.

Mouthfeel - Medium heavy and medium carbonation.

Overall - It's a little weird. Kind of an artificial flavor I can't pin down.

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3.37/5  rDev +1.2%

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4.1/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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Fantôme / Jester King Del Rey from Brasserie Fantôme
77 out of 100 based on 47 ratings.