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Fantôme / Jester King Del Rey - Brasserie Fantôme

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78
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59 Ratings
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Ratings: 59
Reviews: 14
rAvg: 3.38
pDev: 18.64%
Wants: 11
Gots: 12 | FT: 5
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: yourefragile on 06-11-2014

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Photo of Dicers
3.21/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Photo of aleigator
3.43/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Has a hazy, orange, slightly earthy, color, with a decent, fizzy head.

Reveals aromas of flowery hops, acidic, tart citrus peel, bready malts, with honey on top of that unique melange. Also introduces an interesting interplay between pungent herbs and slightly funky, old leather with sweet honey binding the different flavors together.

Begins with a yeast supported, herbal hoppiness, coated up by dough malts and a crisp, tart lemon note, accompanied by young green apple. The hops are quite prominent in this one, due to garden herbs and fresh cut grass, with a honey infused, slightly slick dry bitterness. While malts begin dough, with just a honeyed hint to them, they turn quite sweet during the finish with even more flowery honey. Defined by a fitting carbonation, the beer finishes surprisingly sweet, with glazed malts and honey, topped by slightly dry and funky herbs. Also got a clove spiciness to it, accompanied with a yeasty sweetness, reminding me somehow of a tripel.

Photo of ZEB89
3.36/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of nathanmiller
2.71/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Photo of Sweffin
3.93/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of HeadyTheElder
4.25/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

There must be some bad bottles out there, because what I'm drinking is very good. Nice bright citrus and other fruit. Some nice earthiness. Nicely carbed for the style.

Photo of LambicKing
3.64/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of nickfl
4.05/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Kind of a murky orange brown with a small white head. The aroma is fully of subtle funk with notes of orange, pineapple, and spicy wheat. Flavor is similar but more earthy than the aroma. Medium body and carbonation with a fairly sweet finish. Not sure why this isn't rated higher, I know fantome can be inconsistent, but this bottle at least was quite good.

Photo of AlexFields
3.42/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of TheSamKuehn
3.4/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Axnjxn
3.45/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of KVNBGRY
3.72/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Cheese, dust, barnyard, citrusy. Decent mouthfeel..

Photo of Rochefort10nh
1.92/5  rDev -43.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 1.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

Label is sexy as fuck. The beer- not so much. Turbid deep gold with notable carbonation. Smells sweet and sickly. Cooked corn, mushroom and vomit. Awful.

Photo of kojevergas
2.17/5  rDev -35.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2

BOTTLE: 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green (ugh...) glass. Has Fantome's signature cap design: an unbranded silver pry-off cap over an internally housed cork.

Imported by the Shelton Bastards. Expectations are sky high; Fantome is the best saison brewer worldwide as far as I'm concerned, and Jester King is no slouch either.

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to warm over the course of consumption.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 3 fingers wide. White colour. Aptly creamy, full, and thick. Retains well - for abut 7-8 minutes. No lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Vibrant mango-copper colour. Translucent but nontransparent. Glows.

Appears well-carbonated - perhaps overly so. It's not a unique or special looking saison, but it does look good - though I hoped for visible yeast sediment and a bit less apparent filtration. Where's the saison haziness?

AROMA: Overt, strong aromatic intensity: notes of heavy funkiness (including perhaps some off-putting gym sock notes in addition to the usual brettanomyces barnyard character), overripe fruit peel, hints of lemon zest, Belgian pale malts, and vague spices - white pepper, maybe? Its most pleasant note is sweetbread, complemented nicely by fruitcake - but then, this is meant to be a saison... It lacks the intricate spice profile I've come to expect from Fantome, and doesn't boast a Dupont-esque milkiness either. The funkiness seems out of control and based on the aroma the yeast character seems off. Off-putting notes of cheese/mold, and bitter rind don't help. I'm not too sure about this one...

TASTE: Hmm...tastes more like a Belgian pale ale or Belgian IPA than a saison. Dominant notes of fruitcake and sweetbread eclipse any intricate spicing which may otherwise have been present; the lack of white pepper is a big disappointment. The out-of-control yeasty funkiness runs rampant, throwing out notes of mold, cheese, and bitter rind, but none of the refined barnyard character you'd hope for from brettanomyces. Don't look for Dupont-esque milkiness; you won't find it. Nor will you find the peppery spiciness both Jester King and Fantome do so well in their own respective saison style beers. I wonder if this is another victim of the collaboration craze.

Belgian pale malts. Generic floral hop character. Biscuity yeast. A sour apple off note. Overripe fruit is so sweet it bothers, but the one-two punch of the off-putting sweetness and the equally off-putting rind-y bitterness is dreadful. Phenolic as all hell; the yeast weren't happy eating the malts in this one...

It's wholly imbalanced to the extent that it never quite feels like a gestalt whole - and I'd go so far to say that it misses the style entirely. Flavour duration, depth, and intensity are average. Lacks the complexity/intricacy needed to succeed as a saison.

If I consider it an infected Belgian pale, I find myself enjoying it a bit more. In any case, it's clear this needs serious work. I just don't like it.

TEXTURE: Smooth, wet, supple, nicely soft, near perfectly carbonated, and medium-bodied. Great overall presence on the palate. It's a shame the flavour profile provides little nuance or intricacy for this well-executed mouthfeel to accentuate.

Not gushed, oily, hot, boozy, scratchy, rough, or dragging on the palate.

OVERALL: Not the world class offering I hoped for given the breweries involved. Fantome is known to suffer from severe batch variation, but the subpar scores for this specific beer indicate the entire batch maybe should not have made it to market. To it credit, it does disguise its ABV well; I'd guess it's about 6% from taste alone. I'll finish it and forget it. Disappointing coming from the best saison producer in the world, but not undrinkable. What happened?

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The off-notes (especially the phenols) grow more and more rampant as it warms. Drink cold if you must drink it.

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4/5  rDev +18.3%

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3.75/5  rDev +10.9%

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3.32/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.6/5  rDev +6.5%

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3/5  rDev -11.2%

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3.75/5  rDev +10.9%

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3.31/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a murky orange-brown with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, earth, spice, funk, and skunk aromas. Taste is much the same with grain, earth, spice, and funk flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice and funk bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is an above average beer with a skunk presence that detracts from the drinkability on this one.

Serving type: bottle.

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2/5  rDev -40.8%

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Fantôme / Jester King Del Rey from Brasserie Fantôme
78 out of 100 based on 59 ratings.