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Fantôme BBB Dark White - Brasserie Fantôme

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Reviews: 150
Hads: 262
Avg: 3.96
pDev: 11.87%
Wants: 16
Gots: 34 | FT: 3
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Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  4.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Ego on 09-12-2006

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Reviews by lacqueredmouse:
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased from K&L Win Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with Rich and Sam in Sydney during our Fantôme Tasting Day.

Pours a very deep coppery orange colour, with surprisingly good clarity. Head is foamy like uncooked meringue, and a similar mildly creamy colour. Lace forms in great swathes down the glass. Body is very light, but the carbonation seems quite static when the glass is tilted. It looks good, I'm tempted to say very good.

Nose is quite sweet, and with some sweet spices to match it, but it is brushed with the Saison palette as well, leaving some nice green funk underneath, and a touch of tart acidity. Spices become more prominent as it warms: some cinammon, perhaps cardamom and something vaguely zingy and citric. It's very pleasant stuff.

Taste is not unexpectedly rather light (it being only 4% ABV), with a very mild phenolic bitterness through the centre. Dried apricot characters come through towards the back. Lingering acidity and a faint spritz of carbonation keep it alive for longer than it has a right to be. It's quite refreshing, but it doesn't have much in the way of structure or depth to the palate.

It's very drinkable, however, and rather pleasant, if falling short of some of the other Fantôme beers. Then again, if you raised this one up to the level of the others, you might end up with a very similar beer--I can see how this one fits into the range.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.14/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.25

One of my favourite styles, and the best brewer of that style as far as I'm concerned. I always love the label art on Fantome's bottles. 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green glass (ugh..) bottle with pry-off cap sealed over an internally-housed branded cork served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Acquired at a local SoCal bottle shop. Expectations are through the roof. Label identifies it as a saison, so that's what I'm reviewing it as. The label doesn't corroborate the ABV. Imported by the Shelton Bastards. "Belgian Ale Brewed with Spices."

My label just says "Dark White." There's no "BBB" in the lower left corner like I see on google images.

Served cold, straight from the fridge, and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Cork yields a satisfying pop upon removal. Liquid does start slowly surging upwards, but it's not a gusher or anything.

A: Pours a three finger wide head of nice healthy light khaki colour. Nice smooth soft complexion. Nice thickness. Decent creaminess. Somewhat frothy. Retention is excellent; seemingly indefinite but probably a good 15 minutes - though I'm not waiting to find out. No real lacing as the head ever so slowly recedes. Fluffy and appealing overall.

Body colour is a glowing nontransparent peach. No yeast particles are visible, but it's too murky and hazy to see them anyway. No bubble show. Pretty decent vibrance, though it is a bit understated.

Overall, it's looking pretty standard for a saison with the exception of the remarkable head retention. I'm excited to try it, but other Fantome saisons have looked better.

Sm: Heavy biscuity yeast character, with subtle clove, vitamins, and bready doughy notes. This beer screams that it's alive and kicking. Wow. Some bretty funk here, but not as much as in other saisons.

I get some subtle well integrated spicing, but as always with Fantome it's so well executed that each individual spice is difficult to isolate. White pepper. Some very light citrus twang.

Earthy. Grainy malts. Bready malts. Biscuit malt. Grassy. Clean overall.

I'm not getting any of the fruity notes some other reviewers are describing. Doughy yeast is by far the dominant note here.

No alcohol is detectable. A pungent aroma of moderate to pretty strong intensity.

T: Bready and doughy as hell. Light bretts lend a bit of funkiness. Lightly earthy. Not getting any fruits. Light indistinct spices; I find clove and white pepper.

I'm a bit concerned about the quality control with this bottle; it definitely seems a bit off. Rather bland and narrow-noted for a Fantome beer.

Bready malts, graininess, light grassiness. Hay. Any hop character is minimal in presence and floral in character.

Dough is dominant. It's shockingly simple and boring considering the brewery. Something's wrong here; I think it's lightly infected perhaps? I've never experienced infection in a beer. This isn't offensive or foul; it just seems off on a basic level.

As it warms, I do get hints of fruit after all. Apple, cidery notes, and maybe fig. The white pepper also comes through a bit more. Apple pie. Nutmeg.

Touches of citrus rind on the finish.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Nice thickness. Good carbonation. Not oily, harsh, or biting. Suits the style well, but doesn't feel custom-tailored to the flavour profile. Somewhat acidic.

Dr/O: Kind of a dud from Fantome, but I do think I just got an off bottle. At around $16 USD a bottle, that's frustrating. I've never had quality issues with Fantome until now. I'd like to revisit a good bottle of this, but I won't be shelling out my own money to do so. Really disappointed, but it's not undrinkable - just a bit boring and bland. I'll happily finish the bottle, but I really wanted and expected more from Fantome. Comes off a bit like a homebrew saison in its muddled unfocused character. Alcohol is well hidden, though.

Served chilled but not cold and allow to come to room temperature.


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Photo of tjk135
4.17/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I always enjoy trying Dany's creations and was happy to find this one up in Milwaukee. Cork pops and pours into my Fantome glass a deep hazy brown with red accents and a creamy inch of off white head that has great staying power. Aromas of crisp earthy, bready malts along with a mellow barnyard accent. Yeast tones meet a melange of spiciness where the pepper takes the lead. Slight fruit undertones as well.

First sip brings a cornucopia of flavors. Crisp, slightly bready malts meet a good mix of fruity flavors intermixing with the classic Fantome yeast. As it flows down the pepper kicks in and there's a slight burn on the back of the palate. Mild tartness along with a barnyard / hay accent. Lots going on here...tasty, spicy saison.

Mouthfeel is light and arid making this incredibly drinkable. Creamy with perfect carbonation. Overall, I never quite know what to expect when I crack a Fantome beer and this was a winner for me. At 4% it's incredibly drinkable and the black pepper is well integrated and not overdone. Now it's time for me to find another bottle.

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Photo of Billolick
3.88/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

$13.99 for the typical Fantome large green bottle @ DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY. Corked and capped.

Pours heavily hazed, muddy lighter brownish. Fluffy off white head, stays at the real thick film stage and leaves ample strands of lace.

Sweet, fruity nose with a hint of herbs.

Always a treat to taste and enjoy something new and different from Fantome, this one seems to be on the understated side, with some pepper, more herbal fruityness and and some minerally notes coming forward. A hint of sour on the back end. Went great with some Cypress Grove goat cheese, but likely most saisons would.

Yeasty final pour brings out some more moderate sour, more depth on the pepper note and some barnyard earthyness. A worthy treat for fans of the style and the brewery.

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Photo of rob133
4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of williamjbauer
3.72/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of glid02
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle purchased from Charleston Beer Exchange in Charleston.

The cork slides out with a huge pop and the beer pours a muddy whitish-brown color with a huge and frothy white head. The rocky head eventually settles into a medium-sized disc on top leaving thick lacing.

Smells of light malts with very light hints of chocolate. Also present are large amounts of musty hops, grass, and funk.

Tastes similar to how it smells, though not quite as robust. Crisp light malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by grassy and light funk. Midway through the sip hints of cocoa powder make an appearance before being ousted by earthy hops. The earthy hops, light malt, and funk carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is very good. I finished my glass quickly and could easily have a few more.

Overall I was a big fan of this beer, as I am with almost all Fantome beers. A very interesting take on the saison and one that's well worth a shot.

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Photo of acurtis
3.75/5  rDev -5.3%

Photo of weonfire
4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of Sammy
3.83/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A Fantome beer with 4.5% abv? sure. Hazy peachy colour, with a lasting white head.Leaves lace lines. Belgian yeast and pepper aroma. Middling mouthfeel.A lightly acidic taste, like Apple cider, pepper is significant. Not complex flavour, but nicely drinkable for sour/wild fans. SIgnificant but suitable carbonation. Not a digestive.A funky residue.

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Photo of augustgarage
4.35/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750mL capped-and-corked bottle into my Troubadour tulip. Best before October, 2013. Originally brewed (in 2006) for an auction for Burgundian Babble Belt members to benefit an ill French girl?

Auburn body, lightly hazy with ochre, rust, and bronze highlights. Isabelline, creamy head recedes to a single finger with crenelated arcs of slow moving sandy lacing which is bonded to the sides by tears.

Musty, spicy, almost savory complex aromatics. Hay, mildew, sea urchin, raw milk, wildflowers - along with some unidentifiable fruit notes.

Lightly tart chalky flavor with French toast, citrus, and an intensely earthy profile with hints of compost, loam, and leaf litter in a dank rainforest. I don't normally give much of a thought to ale being a "living" thing, but this beer has a particularly inescapable mix of tastes that suggests both living and decaying wild micro-organisms. Well balanced none the less, and oddly refreshing despite the funk.

Not-quite-medium-bodied, creamy, fairly effervescent, with an infintesimal degree of astringency.

One of the more unusual examples of the style - but the purity, nuance, and terroir may win you over even if there aren't many ready analogies to describe the flavor...

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Photo of CanuckRover
4.67/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours an interesting light copper. Big white head with nice sticky lacings.

Nice funky aroma, I tend to get a nice cheesiness off alot of Fantome brews and this is no different. Pick up a bit of spice too.

Yum. Lots of light fruit flavours for a saison. Nice apple transformed into calvados with the moderate pepper. Wheat plays a nice part, lending it a good farmhouse feel and nice dryness. Finish is quite spicy.

A beautiful drinker, went through two bottles of this with a friend and we couldn't get enough.

Actually one of my favourites from Fantome, find this really checks the boxes for me.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.57/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

BBB Dark White from Brasserie Fantome
Notched e October 13
Tasted 22 Jan 2011

Interesting beer. I'm guessing the name comes from the clear, deep chestnut body with a reddish cast, and the creamy off white head that tops it. The retention is good but not great, and it drops to a creamy collar and whispy surface covering within a few moments. The lacing is a bit better, and with each sip a ring of solid lace is left about the glass. Of course, in time they fade as well. I was quite surprised at how clear it remained throughout the entire bottle. Only in the final pour were a few chunks of heavily sedimented yeast released.

The nose is funky with Brettanomyces. It brings to mind images of rusted galvanized metal, mud, and horses. It's sharp, tangy, and slightly musty with a good bit of leather and some minor wet straw.

In the mouth it's surprisingly smooth with a very-fine bubbled, natural carbonation that's on the lower end. It's medium bodied and lightly creamy.

The flavor retains the Brettanomyces character, but it's not as strong as the nose suggests. There's a touch of grassiness /pepperiness to it, and some mildly sweet and gently caramelish malt appears, followed by a dusting of gentle, non-specific spice. A moderate bitterness slowly rises in the finish, and it becomes peppery, dry, and dusty with a metallic edge. It lingers for quite some time. Overall it's a very smooth transition of flavors from start to finish - perfectly rounded and balanced.

This is a beer that's meant to be enjoyed in a full manner, not just sniffed and sipped at. It begs for food, and paired with a very simple pizza of rustic bread with fresh diced tomatoes and onions caramelized in olive oil, it really worked against the burnt edge of the crust, the acidity of the tomato, and the sweetness of the onion. Magnificent!

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Photo of ElGordo
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Got this in at the shop last week and figured I'd give it a shot. No clue as to specific qualities on the label, but a customer said it's full of black pepper flavor.
Poured from the corked 750ml bottle into a Duvel tulip glass. Body is a pretty orange-red color topped by a couple of inches creamy, off-white head that lingers for quite a while. Aroma of grapefruit, black pepper, and only a touch of the signature Fantome mustiness.
Palate is characteristically complex. Up front a nice light citrusy quality dominates, like apricot and grapefruit. Some light bready notes emerge before the swallow, finishing with a sharper citrus character. After a few sips a low burn from a black pepper emerges and builds continually with each swallow.
Body is creamy and well-carbonated, but at the same time a little watery. This beer manages to be supremely interesting, but at the same time quite drinkable. Not too high in alcohol, and my hophead girlfriend (who normally shies away from Belgians) loved it.

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3/5  rDev -24.2%

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.6/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of cjgator3
4.04/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Capped and corked 750ml bottle with the code 086/477044 printed on the cork. Poured into a tulip glass, this brew an orangish amber color with a white head. Funky and fruity nose with some barnyard, pepper and must. Taste is complex that is slightly tart with some light fruity notes, bready yeast and a lot of lingering spicy pepper. Mouthfeel is smooth but a little too thin. Overall, not the best from Fantome but it certainly is still a very good brew. Recommended.

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Photo of prototypic
4.15/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark White, interestingly enough, pours a dark copper color. It's moderately hazy, but penetrating light gives it a bit of a crimson look. An active white head covers the top. It stands about two fingers tall before falling to a surface covering quickly. Lacing was definitely light.

The nose is good, but could use just a little more strength. It kicks off with a nice blend of herbs and spices. It's very earthy and a little grassy smelling. There's also a nice musky scent, but nothing funky. Pepper is very strong in the mix. There are subtle notes of dark fruit and tart cherry. They're very subdued, but add something positive overall. A little Belgian yeast is noted, but not much. More would be better. Alcohol is not noticeable at all. No big surprise there.

The flavor is good. There's actually a surprising amount of flavor for a 4% abv beer. It is very earthy, herbal, and musky. Those themes are consistent throughout. Pepper is the primary spice. It's not as strong in flavor, but it's very noticeable. Perhaps there are others, but I can't identify them. Secondary flavors include subtle tart cherry, grapes, and a tad bit of fig. In tandem, they add a lot to the flavor. Belgian yeast is more notable in flavor, but I'd still prefer a little more. Alcohol is completely buried. I'm not getting any. Finishes with earthy and spices notes.

Dark White has a light body that leans medium. Carbonation is active, but it's very plush and smooth for a beer of its stature. Classic Belgian mouthfeel. Very impressive. Drinkability is very high. Dark White is tasty stuff and goes down incredibly easy. I'll have no trouble polishing off this 750. Did I mention the abv was 4%?

Brasserie Fantôme has a legendary reputation for its Fantôme Saison. While Dark White isn't quite that good, it's pretty damn impressive. I was a little skeptical about how much flavor it'd have, but it delivers in a rather big way. It's not perfect. I'd like more Belgian yeast and maybe a little less pepper. Nonetheless, this is impressive stuff. Definitely worth checking out.

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4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of nickd717
4.18/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle from K&L.

Pours dark hazy reddish-brown in color with a two-finger whitish head and good lacing.

The aroma has Fantome's typical funky yeast notes with dark fruits and wheat.

Very interesting flavor - dark fruits, berries especially, with good funky yeast notes and wheat.

Nice palate, soft yet substantial on the carbonation.

Good beer. Very drinkable and even sessionable.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.76/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into an Allagash chalice. Best by 10/2013.

Appearance - Pours a crystal clear golden amber. Huge head on this. It won't fit into two chalices. Eternal retention. Sticks to the glass. Looks great.

Smell - Wow, it's a complex smell. Bretty funk, acidity, grainy malts. The sour notes are interesting, but they come off as cidery and vinegary. Light, but still a bit odd.

Taste - Grainy malts are prevalent. Certainly the sour apple acidity persists. Very bright sour fruit flavor up front, but not puckering. Just a touch of acidity. Again, it's a bit too vinegary for me.

Mouthfeel - That vinegar finish is too much for me. Dry and lingering. It even lingers in my nostrils for a while. The carbonation is strange. It looks well carbonated, but it comes off as very smooth. I'd like it to be a bit more.

Overall - So as much as I'm complaining about certain aspects, the complexity of this beer is enough for me to forgive its flaws. It's far more interesting than any American saison I have had. I see why Fantome is the ultimate in saisons.

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Photo of russpowell
3.84/5  rDev -3%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour a slightly hazed amber with a sliver of cream colored head. Near zero head retention & lacing

S: Pears & grassyness, the most dissapointing aspect of this beer

T: Follows the nose, much tartness, a bit of grapefruit up front. Slight white grape flavors, much tartness & lemongrass notes as this warms. some green appleskins & a touch of sour cherry. Sour/tart/dry finish, very more-ish

MF: Light bodied, slight carbonation, that picks up as it warms, some stickyness too

Super easy to drink, but bloody pricey

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Photo of Seaba
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

Photo of dgallina
3.74/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750ml dark green glass bottle without freshness date.

Pours clear golden brown with no head and slight lace retention. Smells hugely peppery and earthy. Black pepper, orange, and anise on a musty and leafy yeast base. The initial flavors are dominated by the spices; orange, pepper and anise vie for supremacy before being overtaken by a rounded and orange-tinged malt center. Finishes with parching dryness. Huge black pepper notes blend with the alcohol to create a lasting and mouth-tingling burn. Body is strongly carbonated and too thin (kind of watery actually). One of Fantôme's more experimental (but not more successful) efforts. Worth trying on a cool fall day if you're a fan.

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Fantôme BBB Dark White from Brasserie Fantôme
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