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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) - Brasserie Fantôme

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101 Reviews
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Reviews: 101
Hads: 154
Avg: 4.01
pDev: 15.21%
Wants: 40
Gots: 24 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Gueuzedude on 12-27-2007

This listing is for the label depicting a white background with black spots.
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Photo of ShanePB
3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750 ml corked and capped bottle. Hazy golden yellow, obnoxiously massive pillowy white read. It seemed to have stuck around forever. Great lacing and retention though, but I am knocking points due to it's excessive foam. Aromas of weed, lime, wheat and funk. Flavor is big lime up front with some hay, funk and mint. What a strange, strange beer...

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Photo of DrinkSlurm
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Had at torst in Brooklyn.
Fantastic beer. Slight good n plenty finish but overall it's so well balanced and delicious. I wish I can drink this every day.

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Photo of mothman
3.79/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

White head. Yellow gold color.

Flavor had an odd spice to it. Maybe dandelion. Spices and yeast. Lemon. Earthy and grassy. Clean. Slightly dry.

Decent beer, just unexpected with that odd initial flavor.

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Photo of SABERG
4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a (green) bottle into a modified tulip glass.
A - Lemon yellow sun, filtering through the stratus layer of white froth.
S - Bright lemon, a mash up of hay and lemon oil wrapped in a wool blanket riding
a horse in the rain!
T - Interestingly sharp fruit, lemon reduction, a bit of onion peel, and moderate acidity, ash finish.
F - Body is propelled across the palate, carbonation provides the surf for those sour notes, and a slightly sweet finish.
O - This bottle is superb, the basis here is broad, tangy, bitter, sweet, funky. A true delight.

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Photo of Blue_Hops
4.26/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Beer was very interesting with a nose that didn't carry over to the taste much. Smells much more floral, herby and minty. The taste has evident citrus oils in it as well as a bitterness that is hard to nail down. As I said before, this is interesting but I would call it a work of art. Not your typical saison. Get it if you can.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Lot Nr. B34 D 014. Best before end 2018.

Pours a murky dark honey orange with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Tiny particles of sediment are seen floating around in the beer after the pour. Smell is of grain, earth, lemon, lemon juice, lemon zest, and slight skunk aromas. Taste is much the same with grain, earth, herb, spice, lemon juice, and lemon zest flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop and earth bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with a nice mix of lemon and herb qualities that are slightly better in the smell to me.

Serving type: bottle.

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Photo of HeadyTheElder
4.66/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Most recent batch. One of the craziest tomes ever. Menthol, citrus, earth, cat pee, funk, pine-sol, bong water, lime, grassy, complex... Great experience overall that somehow works well.

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Photo of MarioM
4.67/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

750ml bottle poured into a tulip glass

A: Beer pours with little to no foam with no head what so ever besides a thin film of tiny bubbles around the rim. Golden yellow and very clear after sitting in the fridge a few days and pouring gently.

S: As always, there is something very strange about this beer but its wonderful. The nose is perfume like, almost flowery but not quite. Almost like an artificial flower smelling solvent. Those of you that have guns, it smells like Hoppe's no.9 Bore cleaner that you use to clean the inside of gun barrels, which smells good btw. I know that sounds off putting but it works here somehow.

T: The spices go really well with the aroma and makes for a very interesting and extremely unique experience. Exactly what I expect when shelling out the dough for bottles of Fantome... Worth every penny... There is also a good malt balance to the spice and bitterness. It finishes with an earthy grassiness, very tasty.

M: The beer finishes with a very satisfying and refreshing bitterness that works well with the malt and spices. Carbonation is perfect, not english ale like nor is it champagne. There's a lingering malt character that reminds me of other Fantomes, obviously, but I also recognize it from drinking a double decocted maibock that I made which had a slight smokey character from me scorching the grain during the decoction. I'm now thinking Danny makes his beers by dedoction mash, hmm... Anyways, the aftertaste of this ghost is very tasty!

O: This is an amazing beer. I need to stop typing and go buy more! It is extremely interesting and intriguing. Its obviously weird and I love the Fantome smoke character that you get in "off" bottles, I love the weird ones. This one isn't as weird as it gets but its just right. Not clean but also definitely not too funky. Well done Danny!

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Photo of stakem
3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Leave it to Dany...as soon as im about to drink my last bottle of old style label Dalmatienne light, he releases a new batch with slightly updated label. Zthis review is for the freshly released batch.

750ml poured into a matching Fantome tulip, the brew appears a clouded golden color with a white creamy cap that holds well.

The smell is minty and herbal with a typical saison yeastiness like clove and banana with mild fruitiness laying underneath. It has a cleanliness about it that while enjoyable is young feeling and underdeveloped by Fantome standards.

The taste is bitter and herbal. a cooling almost menthol feel. Notes of clove and banana yeastiness are present with a touch of fruit like apple/pear skins. Like I mentioned in the aroma, this beer tastes young and clean with typical saison yeast character and unfortunately the Fantome house character I love is not yet present in this batch.

It is medium to full bodied with a pleasant creamy feel and moderate carbonation. An interesting brew that falls middle of the road for me. With time this could get better if the funk comes out and the bitterness fades.

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Photo of biegaman
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

La Dalmatienne isn't black and white but it does have spots - floating little flakes of yeast dot the glass (this despite that very close attention was payed to leave behind those last couple really muddy ounces of sediment). Clarity and a resplendent copper colour manage somewhat to persist in this otherwise very handsome looking ale. It looks good in the chalice but would even better suit a snifter.

The inside of the bottle cap was heavily rusted but it smelled amazing. Unsurprisingly the beer smells even better. It is unique and funky to an extent that few beers ever truly are. It has earthy, sweet, and tart features in unusual combinations like oyster mushroom, gjetost cheese, and farmhouse cider.

First and foremost, however, La Dalmatienne shares its stronger similarities with Amontillado or Oloroso sherry as well as brandy. Intoxicating, lightly oxidized flavours of grape must, dried fruits and figs, honey, baking apples, bitter almonds, used oak, and all sorts of miscellaneous things rich and sweet. It's delicious and, again, extraordinarily distinct.

If you know this brewery you know that "a Fantôme never gives up his secrets" - not even production or best before dates unfortunately. This bottle has been in my cellar for so long I can't remember when I bought it (best guess is 7 or 8 years prior). Only once having tried it once before, eons ago, I can't recall how this compares. But one thing's for sure: true to reputation, Fantôme beers do age fantastically.

When I first heard others raving about 10+ year old bottles of Fantôme I was skeptical. As I experimented with aging beers myself I gradually found the results less and less encouraging until eventually becoming a full-fledged 'fresh is best' advocate.

But there are exceptions to every rule. If you have any La Dalmatienne (or any other Fantôme offerings) don't be in a rush. The complexities and characteristics of this bottle were unequivocally distinct in the beer world and its rich, sweet subtleties rivaled only by beverages like brandy and sherry. Whatever the price tag was it was steep - but definitely worth it.

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Photo of DeutschesBier
2.86/5  rDev -28.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2.75

Almost like a Gin and Tonic in beer form. Juniper and medicinal bitterness. Slight lime. Slight orange. First couple sips were okay, but it just got too hard to drink. Way too bitter and medicinal.

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Photo of laituegonflable
2.96/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a shiny gold colour with no head. Thin film around the edge with dense bubbles. Decent lace. Not bad, but not great.

Smells sweet, honey and nutty. Lots of almondy notes. Sweet predominantly with hints of Belgian phenols on the back. Marzipan, pecan and peanut. I'm definitely missing the funk here.

Wow, world of difference on the palate. So sour. A lot better, and yet still a bit simple and underdeveloped. Peanut notes, some chestnut, with tart vinegar character and some lemon/apple cider notes. Not particularly interesting, just tastes a little unnuanced to me.

Tart mouthfeel with pull from the yeast. A bit dry and acidic, but not bad.

Maybe it was a mistake following Logsdon's excellent Seizoen with this, as this just doesn't taste right to me. Tartness is there but there doesn't seem to be much else.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3.25/5  rDev -19%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From: Gifted by CE, from somewhere in AZ
Date: None on bottle
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Pours a light beige head of about 1cm, composed of medium to large-sized bubbles, and with below average retention (lasting under a minute). The head fizzes away to a thin ring around the glass, leaving a few modest spots of lacing along the sides of the glass. Body is an orange-amber color, transparent, with light bringing out a somewhat bright, rust-orange color. Carbonation is visible and fairly substantial, streaming up from the bottom of the glass.

Aroma is nearly candy-like sweetness with light toffee, hints of brandy, and lavendar/mint-like herbs. Not unappealing, but not particularly appealing, either.

Front of palate picks up light toffee and brown candy sugar-like sweetness. Mid-palate is brown candy sugar sweet, with prune esters, brandy, and medicinal or cough syrup-like flavors at times; it also includes a bit of "damp woods" like tastes, powdered cocoa, and potpurri-like herb usage. Back of palate picks up faded cherry-in-syrup flavors, toffee and brown candy sugar sweetness, and faint ethanol. Lingering aftertaste of medicinal/cough syrup sweetness with hints of brown candy sugar and prunes. Overall, quite complex, but perhaps overly sweet and a bit unbalanced in this regard.

Beer is medium-bodied, with slight wateriness around the edges. Carbonation is low in intensity, resulting in a smooth, though fairly stagnant mouthfeel that is just slightly foamy. Closes dryly, with little residual stickiness across the palate, despite the sweet flavors.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml capped and corked bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with @tobeerornottobe and @LaitueGonflable in Sydney as part of our Fantôme tasting day.

It uncaps without as much as a thunk, and pours similarly: rather flat and heavy. A mild ring of white forms around the edge, but otherwise it looks uncarbonated and pretty dense. Colour is a pleasant slightly hazed golden hue, and it picks up the light nicely: giving it a glow. Overall, it's not bad-looking, but is missing some of the key points of the style and the brewery.

Holy crap, what's going on here? Sweet and sour intensity, like heavily oaked botrytis semillon, with a hint of earthiness and a phenolic, gueuze-like bite. Some marzipan almond acridity. This is very strange: possibly just wrong.

Taste is similar, but maybe a bit better: apple and pear cider characters come through along with a pronounced acidity, and a slightly herbal and slightly carbonic bite on the finish. It feels rather thin, however, and has very little residual body: it's this more than anything that makes me believe this is not how it was supposed to be.

To be honest, I didn't hate it, even though it feels like this sample is infected with something that wasn't meant to be there: the stronger acidity is actually an interesting addition to the base Fantôme beer, which still managed to retain some character. But this is less good than it should have been, I feel, and I wonder just how much this has veered off from its goal.

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Photo of WillCarrera
4.3/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle, no bottled-on date, poured into a tulip glass.

A- Pours an almost perfectly clear golden yellow color, topped with an inch of fluffy white head, nice retention, leaves a bit of spotty lacing.

S- Really interesting aroma, lots of fruit (apple, pear, a bit of citrus) as well as strong spice, musky earth and yeast notes. Some clove, pepper and caramel malt as well, it smells awesome, and evolves as the beer warms up.

T- Similar to the nose, quite fruity with lots of apple, pear and a bit of citrus. There's a really perfect amount of tartness that I wasn't expecting from a saison, but it works really well. There's also some mild caramel malty sweetness in the center, with a dry, spicy finish. Musty, earthy yeast pulls everything together.

M- Medium-bodied, smooth and creamy, drinks pretty easily for 8.00%, although it's on the fuller side of medium.

O- A great saison, has a massive amount of complexity and character, the tart flavors also add a nice new dimension to the beer.

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Photo of AdamBear
3.94/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-cloudy gold with a thick cream colored head

S-fairly funky. Some spices. Caramel. Medium strength

T-comes in with a taste of some funk, but actually...it mostly tastes like sweet BBQ? I'm not lying. It's very odd. It tates almost smokey. After-taste is matching.

M-medium creamy carbonation with a watery finish

O-well, I never had a Saison like this before. Seems like it'd be a good summer Saison. I wonder what the dark version tastes like. Definitely goes down well.

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Photo of larryi86
3.95/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a tulip

A- A hazy golden copper color with a two finger white head.

S- Barnyard funk, earthy, a little sour, some light fruits, herbal, floral.

T- Funky, earthy, sour lemon, sweet apples, some sweet malts, floral, herbal, ashy/off finish that really throws everything off. The finish isn't as off putting the more I drink this.

M- Crisp, light body.

O- I like the nose and the beginning of the taste, but the finish hurts this beer a lot. I feel that drinking a whole bottle isn't an issue. This is the second beer I have had from Fantome and I am not really impressed, I seem to have really bad luck with getting good bottles...

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.

Pours a gorgeous golden color with some bright yellow notes and some nice haze to it. There is a nice 1 inch white head with some density to it but not very dense. White soapy bubbles are formed and they recede at a moderate pace. Not leaving any real lacing.

Strong funk notes. Old horse blanket and some nice corn husk notes a-plenty. It's been a while since I've smelled a true Belgian saison. Herbal and spicy notes are present including some nice fresh grain notes.

Grainy flavors start things off with some malt and some nice tartness. Lemony and citrusy juice notes are present and mix in with the funky horse blanket. There are grain notes mixed in with the tart notes and the funk. Interesting take on the style. Crisp and clean with a nice dry finish.

Pretty good saison. Fantome doesn't disappoint.

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Photo of BilbosNuts
4.23/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750mL bottle into a tulip glass.

A: Pours a very cloudy dark yellow color with no head at all. It appears very still with limited to no carbonation.

S: The aroma is amazingly complex. Earthy, funky, sour apples, lemon, grapefruit, grassy. All aspects are balanced as well, as none overpowers the other.

T: Not quite up to the standard set by the aroma, but it is still solid. Definitely more lemony and grapefruit-y in the taste. While the other aspects are present, they aren't as well balanced as the aroma.

M: Medium bodied with minimal carbonation. Very smooth with a crisp, tangy finish.

O: I really enjoyed this saison. It was honestly unlike any other saison I've had so far. While some aspects were a bit flawed, overall, it was very enjoyable. I'm looking forward to trying more from Fantome.

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Photo of DaftCaskBC
4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: 1/2" off-white head that dissipated quickly over amber liquid.

S: Oak, horse barn funk, floral and earthy hops.

T: Just like it smells. Horse barn funk and sourness, oak, malt along with a floral, earthy, and citrusy finish.

M: Medium viscosity and a medium level of fine carbonation.

O: As unappetizing as I have described it, this beer definitely is interesting and it begs for another taste.

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Photo of TrappistJohnMD
3.92/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Honey colored with white head that dissipates quickly.

Smell is strongly lemon with some funk.

Taste follows the smell initially. This is very tart. There is some definite horse blanket quality to it. Very little bitterness in the finish. Dry finish.

Mouthfeel is dry with average carbonation.

Overall good, but I am less of a fan of sours.

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Photo of Cresant
4.59/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served this 750 mL green bottle in a Tripel Karmeliet glass. No date. The beer had a bright gold body and the heavy pour created a pithy loose, white head. The second pour was cloudier. The head left freckles of lace.

The smell was acrid. Grass clippings and mouldering hay. Peppery and floral. A very interesting aroma.

The taste was puckering tartness to begin with but that settled to a gentle floral taste. Smoke characteristic appeared late. Dry finish. Very well hidden alcohol. Very unique.

The mouthfeel was light in the mouth but there was enough heft to this one to consider it medium bodied. Mild carbonation.

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Photo of SalMineo
2.6/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

I don't know if I got a bad bottle but the taste was awful. It had a very chemical taste to that disagreed with my mouth. The best way to describe it as drinking a corked or spoiled white wine or maybe a cheap scotch gone bad. It's the first Fantome I couldn't stand to drink.

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Photo of corby112
3.29/5  rDev -18%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a cloudy golden orange color with yellowish hues and a very thin fizzy white head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  No lacing.  

Earthy aroma with funky saison yeast, light fruit, zesty spice and a prominent citrus character.  Lots of lemon peel and grapefruit along with a subtle vegetal/earthy presence.

Medium bodied and surprisingly tart with a dry, sour funk that lingers throughout into a slightly puckering, dry finish.  There's also a sweet fruit presence with lots of citrusy lemon as well as some apple and pear.  Hints of grass, hay, yeast and a vegetal earthiness.  There's also some faint spice that's nowhere near as strong as in the nose.  Just really weird, kind of like a saison berlinerweisse hybrid. Kind of one dimensional though with an odd sour and sweet fruit flavor.  Not too sour though, more puckering and dry.

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Photo of illidurit
4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle shared at the January 2012 Santa Cruz tasting at Sante Adairius. Pours a hazy pale gold with basically no head. Fantastic aroma -- this is the kind of beer you might spend longer smelling than drinking. Apricot shortbread cobbler comes to mind, along with a mulled cider spiciness: cinnamon and cloves, perhaps cardamom. Flavor is a little less engrossing. Semi-tart, semi-sweet, with a vague fruitiness -- apples first, then a touch of lemon. The alcohol shows through just a little, contributing a sharpness that pairs in the finish with a significant hop bitterness. Dry with low carbonation.

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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) from Brasserie Fantôme
89 out of 100 based on 101 ratings.