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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) - Brasserie Fantôme

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89
very good

132 Ratings
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Ratings: 132
Reviews: 90
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 12.47%
Wants: 38
Gots: 20 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a white background with black spots.

(Beer added by: Gueuzedude on 12-27-2007)
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2/5  rDev -50.1%

chippo33, Sep 03, 2013
Photo of SalMineo
2.53/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

I don't know if I got a bad bottle but the taste was awful. It had a very chemical taste to that disagreed with my mouth. The best way to describe it as drinking a corked or spoiled white wine or maybe a cheap scotch gone bad. It's the first Fantome I couldn't stand to drink.

SalMineo, Mar 16, 2012
Photo of DaveJanssen
2.75/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured form bottle into 25cL karmeliet tulip. Opens with almost no pop

Ar: Sweaty smoke, funky in a not great way. This is a strange beer. tart, the smoke dominates, lemony acidity

Ap: Clear gold, light white head, good retention

T: A distinct smokey character, like smoked nuts, was the first thing that stood out. Fruity sweetness, mildly tart. Smokey spice finish. A pleasant mild saison character in there with lemon and mild hop spice, but funky barbecue dominates the finish.

M: Light body, medium carb, slight tartness, lingering smokey feel.

O: I know there can often be unique spicing in these beers but this smokeyness really caught me off guard. It is interesting and weird. I don't think this is what the beer ought to taste like.

DaveJanssen, Nov 08, 2011
Photo of mdfb79
2.88/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From 11/05/11 notes. Bottle shared by yourfragile at the mega-Fantome tasting. Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Cigar City snifter.

a - Pours a murky dark yellow with light carbonation evident and less than an inch of white head.

s - Smells of citrus hops and a tiny bit sulfur-ish. Not sure if this is a bad bottle or what, but overall the smell is not very good.

t - Tastes of lemons, citrus hops, apples, and lightly sour fruits. Much better than the nose but still not great.

m - Medium body and low carbonation. A little bit undercarbonated.

o - Overall not my favorite Fantome. Nose seemed a bit off, and the taste was a little sour and faint. Wouldn't seek it out again.

mdfb79, Nov 09, 2011
Photo of laituegonflable
2.98/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a shiny gold colour with no head. Thin film around the edge with dense bubbles. Decent lace. Not bad, but not great.

Smells sweet, honey and nutty. Lots of almondy notes. Sweet predominantly with hints of Belgian phenols on the back. Marzipan, pecan and peanut. I'm definitely missing the funk here.

Wow, world of difference on the palate. So sour. A lot better, and yet still a bit simple and underdeveloped. Peanut notes, some chestnut, with tart vinegar character and some lemon/apple cider notes. Not particularly interesting, just tastes a little unnuanced to me.

Tart mouthfeel with pull from the yeast. A bit dry and acidic, but not bad.

Maybe it was a mistake following Logsdon's excellent Seizoen with this, as this just doesn't taste right to me. Tartness is there but there doesn't seem to be much else.

laituegonflable, May 21, 2013
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3/5  rDev -25.2%

rob133, Dec 27, 2011
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3/5  rDev -25.2%

Big_Dave, Sep 15, 2014
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3/5  rDev -25.2%

BGsWo22, Jun 11, 2014
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3/5  rDev -25.2%

deapokid, Apr 16, 2012
Photo of Sammy
3.05/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Crushinator's bottle. Pours cloudy with incredible white head bubbles. Really funky aroma, beyond farmyard, smells like a wild ale. Good mouthfeel but bitterness, with some old orange rind astringency and funkiness making it not that desireable to drink.

Sammy, Jul 18, 2008
Photo of hooliganlife
3.05/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

pours a golden yellow with loads of white fizzy and creamy head. retains lightly.

big fruit and funk with bits of light spice and pepper. bit of skunk.

i read some reviews before i made mine, and then had to make sure i was drinking the same beer. some fruit like apricot and grape up front. some apple. light tartness. quickly fades into charcoal and ash. finishes like an ash tray. no lie.... (after a while i guess i got used to the ash and stopped picking up on it)

mild carbonation, light and fluffy.

great but the ash and charcoal just kills the flavor. no thanks, never again.

hooliganlife, Jan 07, 2012
Photo of JDV
3.15/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

bottle shared by dewbrewer. Thanks!
Pour bright orange and is slightly hazy. Smell is fresh and bright, but funky and dusty as well. Some orange in the nose too. Taste is dry, funky, and truly strange. Dusty, and a very light sourness in the finish. Medium to thin bodied. Light carbonation. Pretty unique, even as fantome beers go, with really hard to place spiced flavors.

JDV, Jul 01, 2008
Photo of corby112
3.25/5  rDev -19%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a cloudy golden orange color with yellowish hues and a very thin fizzy white head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  No lacing.  

Earthy aroma with funky saison yeast, light fruit, zesty spice and a prominent citrus character.  Lots of lemon peel and grapefruit along with a subtle vegetal/earthy presence.

Medium bodied and surprisingly tart with a dry, sour funk that lingers throughout into a slightly puckering, dry finish.  There's also a sweet fruit presence with lots of citrusy lemon as well as some apple and pear.  Hints of grass, hay, yeast and a vegetal earthiness.  There's also some faint spice that's nowhere near as strong as in the nose.  Just really weird, kind of like a saison berlinerweisse hybrid. Kind of one dimensional though with an odd sour and sweet fruit flavor.  Not too sour though, more puckering and dry.

corby112, Feb 08, 2012
Photo of falloutsnow
3.28/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From: Gifted by CE, from somewhere in AZ
Date: None on bottle
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Pours a light beige head of about 1cm, composed of medium to large-sized bubbles, and with below average retention (lasting under a minute). The head fizzes away to a thin ring around the glass, leaving a few modest spots of lacing along the sides of the glass. Body is an orange-amber color, transparent, with light bringing out a somewhat bright, rust-orange color. Carbonation is visible and fairly substantial, streaming up from the bottom of the glass.

Aroma is nearly candy-like sweetness with light toffee, hints of brandy, and lavendar/mint-like herbs. Not unappealing, but not particularly appealing, either.

Front of palate picks up light toffee and brown candy sugar-like sweetness. Mid-palate is brown candy sugar sweet, with prune esters, brandy, and medicinal or cough syrup-like flavors at times; it also includes a bit of "damp woods" like tastes, powdered cocoa, and potpurri-like herb usage. Back of palate picks up faded cherry-in-syrup flavors, toffee and brown candy sugar sweetness, and faint ethanol. Lingering aftertaste of medicinal/cough syrup sweetness with hints of brown candy sugar and prunes. Overall, quite complex, but perhaps overly sweet and a bit unbalanced in this regard.

Beer is medium-bodied, with slight wateriness around the edges. Carbonation is low in intensity, resulting in a smooth, though fairly stagnant mouthfeel that is just slightly foamy. Closes dryly, with little residual stickiness across the palate, despite the sweet flavors.

falloutsnow, Dec 11, 2012
Photo of clickpush
3.33/5  rDev -17%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pour: 750 ml bottle poured into tulip glass. Very light pour yields huge overwhelming 4+ finger head. Head is light tan and body light brown, slightly cloudy. Tons of carbonation along the outside of the glass. Head is super resilient - fluffy and slow to go down. Perhaps too heady.

Nose: Rich and bright aroma. Reminiscent perhaps of Reinaert. Fruity, tart, salty, a tiny touch of funkiness. Blueberry, juicy, a touch of black pepper, maybe some orange. Not as deep as I'm making it sound... I'm really searching here - it's not bursting out of the glass or anything.

Mouth: First thing I notice is how foamy the mouthfeel is... the explosive carbonation noted in the pour explodes in the mouth as well, foaming up and creating tons of bubbles in my mouth. Flavor is very similar to aroma. Alcohol is very noticeable in flavor. Taste is very sweet, nothing I've tasted in a Fantome before. Actually more like an unremarkable Belgian brown. Some caramel, brown sugar, cloying sweetness.

I believe this is grossly mis-characterized as a Saison.

clickpush, Jan 11, 2008
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3.48/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by yourefragile. Thanks Michael.

Sampled alongside twenty other Fantôme beers.

The beer appears a very hazy yellow, with virtually no head or lacing.

The aroma is something to behold. I'm not sure if I love it, despise it, or both. Since I keep sticking my nose in the glass searching for an answer, it must be alright. Ripe onions and funky apricots amid a yeasty, floral base. Truly unique.

The flavor is tart, sour, intense. Apricots and Vidalia onions. Sharp and puckering. Acetic. This beer sinks into your cheeks.

Medium bodied with low carbonation. Lip smacking and cheek burning tartness.

Overall, a unique brew, and worth a try, though certainly not my favorite Fantôme of the lot.

Huhzubendah, Nov 08, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

MinorThreat, Aug 21, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

ygtbsm94, Jan 05, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

brandoman63, Nov 21, 2011
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml capped and corked bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with @tobeerornottobe and @LaitueGonflable in Sydney as part of our Fantôme tasting day.

It uncaps without as much as a thunk, and pours similarly: rather flat and heavy. A mild ring of white forms around the edge, but otherwise it looks uncarbonated and pretty dense. Colour is a pleasant slightly hazed golden hue, and it picks up the light nicely: giving it a glow. Overall, it's not bad-looking, but is missing some of the key points of the style and the brewery.

Holy crap, what's going on here? Sweet and sour intensity, like heavily oaked botrytis semillon, with a hint of earthiness and a phenolic, gueuze-like bite. Some marzipan almond acridity. This is very strange: possibly just wrong.

Taste is similar, but maybe a bit better: apple and pear cider characters come through along with a pronounced acidity, and a slightly herbal and slightly carbonic bite on the finish. It feels rather thin, however, and has very little residual body: it's this more than anything that makes me believe this is not how it was supposed to be.

To be honest, I didn't hate it, even though it feels like this sample is infected with something that wasn't meant to be there: the stronger acidity is actually an interesting addition to the base Fantôme beer, which still managed to retain some character. But this is less good than it should have been, I feel, and I wonder just how much this has veered off from its goal.

lacqueredmouse, Nov 24, 2012
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3.53/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: A bit darker (lots of ruby & copper) and a much larger head than the regular fantome saison. Some sporadic lacing down the side.

Nose: Not as tart or funky as I would hope, more caramel and apricot than expected:

Taste: Sweet, malty caramel/toffee, along with apricot and orange

Mouthfeel: Fuller than expected

Drinkability: high, perhaps a more approachable fantome, but not in a good way

craytonic, May 21, 2010
Photo of augustgarage
3.63/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Really excited to see this (and many other Fantôme beers) on the shelves recently! Poured from a green-glass capped-and-corked 750mL bottle into my Troubadour tulip.

Quite murky citrine body with a faint limoncello glow. Vigorous pour produces no head whatsoever, and there is barely a collar created by the sluggish microbubbles. Perhaps an older vintage?

Herbaceous savory fragrance, floral in a weird way (marigolds? lilacs? huh?), with syrupy fruit notes suggesting loquat, leechee nuts, and fermenting pear. A low Brett. note floats around as well.

Chalky and bracingly tart on the palate - the sourness gives way slowly to overripe pear again, reminding me something of a warhead. Yellow sorrel, lemon drops, and a hint of tallegio and aspirin fill out the profile. Very "wild" - the funkiest of the Fantôme family I've yet to sample. Not skunked, no diacetyl, not "off," despite my initial misgivings...

Quite creamy thanks to all the yeast, but very thin with insufficient carbonation.

As strange as it is, this one is growing on me, but it is definitely one for afficianados only...a farmhouse ale with hints of the outhouse?

augustgarage, Jan 20, 2011
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3.63/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: It pours a pale yellow color with some cloudy clarity at best. There was a pop when I removed the cork put it poured really close to dead flat. No head with some small bubbles hitting the surface.

S: There are some strong citrus notes up front with a serious cheesy funky smell not far behind. The more I smell it I am reminded of a dry white wine.

T: The flavor is very vinous in quality with a nice kick of citrus to back it up. The lack of carbonation is not bothering as much as I anticipated. It still manages to finish clean and dry.

M: The feel is a bit thin without the bubbles, but at least it isn't overly sweet and syrupy.

O: I wish this one would have been properly carbonated as I can see myself enjoying it a bit more. It still is good brew, but falls short of what it could be.

Neffbeer, Nov 12, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Richard for sharing this.

A: The pour is a cloudy goldenrod color with a soapy white head.

S: Slightly funky with lots of sweet fruit notes. I get a lot of citrus, especially oranges and tangerines, along with some apricots.

T: This is quite sweet, considering what you normally get from a Fantome saison. Mostly sweet oranges and apricots with a slight bit of that bretty Fantome yeast character underneath.

M: The body is medium with a fairly lively carbonation.

D: A pretty nice beer from Fantome, but not exactly my favorite from them either. I did enjoy all the fruitiness, however.

womencantsail, Sep 07, 2010
Photo of julian
3.68/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Darker than most Fantome’s I’ve had to date. This is more of amber cranberry color with some orange highlights. Thick off white head and lots of carbonation from the looks of it. Can’t wait to try it, looks wonderful! 4

S: Smell is of apples, cooked orchard apples predominantly. This is most probably intentional and not acetylaldehyde (a command off flavor). Also, another first impression I got was that it smelled like a “holiday” beer. Perhaps there are some spices in here. Who knows though...only Dany knows. I was also hoping for more of that Fantome tangy tartness but it seems to be devoid here. 3.5

T&M: Taste pretty much follows the nose (which is what I love about Fantome...aroma and taste are very much intertwined). Lots of green apple flavor, not too heavy but definitely the dominant flavor. Carbonation level is perfect for the style and mouthfeel is crisp with a medium-light body. Clean finish. 3.5 / 4

O: Overall, not my favorite Fantome to date, but not something to shy away from. The regular Saison sets the bar pretty damn HIGH, but compared to other beers this is great. The apple flavor is not too intense, but still recognizable. It drinks easy, is refreshing and smells like apples. Good stuff! 4

julian, Aug 29, 2011
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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) from Brasserie Fantôme
89 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.