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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) - Brasserie Fantôme

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90
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132 Ratings
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Ratings: 132
Reviews: 90
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 12.47%
Wants: 39
Gots: 21 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a white background with black spots.

(Beer added by: Gueuzedude on 12-27-2007)
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Photo of billshmeinke
3.93/5  rDev -2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Hazy golden color, completely hard to see through. No real lacing or retention.

Smells of lemon, hay, and funk.

Wowza, tons of lemon tartness, funk, hay, horse blanket. Damned tasty and complex. Slight minerality.

Spritzy, refreshing, tart. Farily light.

Really tasty, enjoyable, and quaffabl.

Photo of Lazerlobe
4.28/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Flat looking straw colored beer. Large spherical bubbles quickly dissipate leaving a light dusting of foam.

S: Mmm, gets a good deal more interesting here. Firstly, a puff of funk, probably that signature Fantôme smell that I've heard of. How to describe it? Musty lemons, stale smoke, and sulfur? Then honey, woodsy must once my giant nostrils become accustomed to the smell.

T: More honey, herbal bitterness, Fantôme funk. Kind of reminds my of a funky mead. Not a very dry finish, though a bit floral. I dig it!

M: Lightly carbonated, oily on the tongue. Slight pucker that is quickly overridden by the honey sweetness.

O: This is a tough brewery to pigeonhole. I can't think of this as a saison but I really enjoy it for what it is. Tons of character and moderate complexity.

Photo of nickhiller
4.8/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: mahogany/cherry wood colored, thick bubbly head is short lived, leaving behind no trace.

S: very floral, smells like perfume or potpourri, lavender, green apple, sherry, rosé wine, Flintstones chewable vitamins.

T: lavender, amazing I've never tasted that in a beer, prunes and dried apricot, dark cherries, Flintstones vitamins.

M: medium bodied, perfect amount of carbonation, not too much, not too little, sweet mellow finish.

O: so awesome, manages to be fruity and flowery while still being 'beer' beer. Also the vitamin smell and flavor brings me right back to my childhood.

Photo of flannelman808
4.28/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: This stuff pours straw yellow and has a uniform haze about it. Almost no head forms and what little bit of a ghostly white foam which did form dissipates rather quickly.

S: Smells insane. Huge funky presence meets red wine vinegar rotting lemon, and spicy crabapple.

T: Tart granny smith apple, spice and green grapes DOMINATE the palate. Its deliciously tart and fruity, not acrid as the nose might have suggested. The barnyard notes on the nose don't follow on the palate so much. I will say one gets the since that there are just a plethora of bugs swimming around in this stuff, and I wonder if they wouldn't continue to eat and let this beer mature over time. Perhaps even give it the carbonation which it lacks.

M: Full and coating. Oil slick.

O: Very unique stuff, a must try for fans of the funky sour stuff. Got to love Fantome!

Photo of hopsbreath
4.4/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I've bought at least one example of every Fantome I can find in Portland. The base Fantome Saison is my bench mark for the style and a beer I've had three times prior to just now with the last bottle being drunk just before this one. Judging by the limited reviews, it would appear that this one is sort of tough to come by. Split into a pair of Fantome tulips and shared with my wife TulipSnifter.

A: Appears similar to amber wildflower honey colored in the glass. Huge voluminous snow white head forces me to pour by parts into my glass as the head recedes. Insane amounts of lace sheets cover my glass. Surprisingly it's very leggy and viscous as well. It doesn't get any better looking than this. 5/5

S: Not as big of an aroma as the beer I had previously. What I can pick up on are the lighter ester notes I associate with belgian saisons such as sweet over-ripened bananas, generic fruit punch. It's unique for sure, but I'm left wanting a little more. An average score seems perfectly acceptable here. 3/5

T: Oh wow. That is full of pie spice with an emphasis on cloves. Misty mentioned artificial chocolate similar to Tootsie Rolls. Upon the suggestion, I'd have to agree. Bretty barnyard shows itself in spades along with some lactic tart notes highlighted by lemon zest. There's quite a bit of residual sweetness here as well. It would seem that there's still some residual sugars kicking around. It's extremely unique in my experience with saisons and is an extreme beer that is wildly in line with my personal taste. I reward interesting and unique beers I like, and I'll make no exception here. I love this flavor profile. 5/5

M: The spice numbs my tongue while the viscosity coats it at the same time. Fine carbonation tries to keep this clean but it still finishes a little gummy. It does however feel about as big as it tastes so it's pretty appropriate. 4/5

O: About as interesting a beer as I've had in a while. Fantome was of interest to me before this bottle but just landed itself square on my most curious Belgian brewery list. I'm going to be forced to track down the harder to get bottles as well now. A fine example of unrestrained brewing imagination. Try one of these out for a little fun and a hell of a ride! 4.5/5

Photo of ShogoKawada
4.53/5  rDev +13%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

thanks to augustgarage for this one! Poured into my brand-new fantome tulip.

A- Golden yellow, thin head, tiny bubbles on the outer ring. Carbonation, not a lot though. Nothing special.

S- Intense funk on this one. Sour fruit and stinky cheese.

T- Sweet fruit, orange and pineapple. Very juicy and tart (tart moreso than full-blown sour), very funky. Briny or salty, earthy in the finish with a lingering sweetness.

M- Almost still, but drinks very well. Fantastic flavors blend harmoniously. Slightly acidic in the finish. No sign of ABV.

O- Very impressed. Very funky stuff, one of the more 'out there' saisons I've had- this one shares a lot with other belgian styles like lambic/gueuze. An exceptional beer.

624

Photo of heebes
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1 Pint.
50th brewery tried.
46th beer style tried.

Pours a hazy dark copper amber with a finger width off white bubbly head. Lots of carbonation present. Nose is spicy, farmhouse funk, belgian yeast, sweet. Taste is similiar to the nose, theres a sweet spicyness on the palatte paired with the distinct Belgian malts. Light 'Blonde Ale' characteristics too. Medium bodied and mouthfeel. At 8%, this should work just fine for this afternoon. I'm thinking it would be a wonderful beer to revisit this summer. Pricey!, but worth a try. Interesting introduction to the style.

Photo of augustgarage
3.63/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Really excited to see this (and many other Fantôme beers) on the shelves recently! Poured from a green-glass capped-and-corked 750mL bottle into my Troubadour tulip.

Quite murky citrine body with a faint limoncello glow. Vigorous pour produces no head whatsoever, and there is barely a collar created by the sluggish microbubbles. Perhaps an older vintage?

Herbaceous savory fragrance, floral in a weird way (marigolds? lilacs? huh?), with syrupy fruit notes suggesting loquat, leechee nuts, and fermenting pear. A low Brett. note floats around as well.

Chalky and bracingly tart on the palate - the sourness gives way slowly to overripe pear again, reminding me something of a warhead. Yellow sorrel, lemon drops, and a hint of tallegio and aspirin fill out the profile. Very "wild" - the funkiest of the Fantôme family I've yet to sample. Not skunked, no diacetyl, not "off," despite my initial misgivings...

Quite creamy thanks to all the yeast, but very thin with insufficient carbonation.

As strange as it is, this one is growing on me, but it is definitely one for afficianados only...a farmhouse ale with hints of the outhouse?

Photo of Gobzilla
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a burnt orange in color with yellow highlights that had a thin head and left a little lacing sticking to the glass. It had the signature fantome bretty oak funky character in the aroma with mild citrus, vinegar, and faint dark fruits. It didi have some caramel and brown sugar as well. Pears apples flavors blend quite well with the bretty funky oaky character but had vinegar dark fruit citrusy accents and a touch of caramel in the background. The brew was medium in body with a good amount of prickly carbonation which had a oaky, vinegar, sweet, mild fruity, and tart finish. I thought it was decent from fatome and kinda was a little dissapointed cause I heard it was gonna be bomb but was let down.

Photo of whiterascal
4.22/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A great find at the local whole foods! Shared with Ottovon before we part for the holidays.

A: light russet with a fizzy tan head that thinned out quickly.
S: citrus, sweet, grassy, pinesol
T: a little spice at the back of the tongue, which opens up into a funky yeasty citrus flavor
M, crisp and fizzy
D: to me, this is an easy drinking beer. I like the carbonation and the flavors are smooth and mellow enough to drink all night.

Photo of ottovon
4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for sharing with me whiterascal!

A: pours a coppery orange color, with an off white head that fell quickly, but is hanging around on the top of the beer.

S: smells of citrus, a little caramely and like toffee. a nice bready, belgiany yeast smell as well.

T: taste is bready, a little toffee. i get some apple in there. it is crisp and a little tart. a little bit of bitterness in the finish.

M: it has a medium body with good carbonation.

D: very drinkable. I could drink the whole 750.

Photo of brentk56
4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a very murky apricot nectar color with a surprisingly modest head that does leaves a rather large amount of residue (lacing and legs)

Smell: Surprisingly sweet for a Fantôme, with a cinnamon-infused persimmon character; hints of apple sauce, brown sugar, clove and wheat are also present

Taste: Cookie dough malts quickly move in a fruity direction, with persimmon, apple, pear, apricot at first, followed by a sour cherry element in the back; after the swallow, the sour, lemony farmhouse flavors are rather dominant

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with medium to low carbonation

Drinkability: While the flavor profile is interesting, I was surprised by the sweetness up front and the lack of Saison character; not my favorite from this brewery but glad to have the chance to give it a shot

Thanks, jahuneyc, for the opportunity

Photo of dstc
4.43/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky burnt orange color with a off-white head. Head falls to nothing, not much lace.

Aroma us of sweet, boozy dark fruits. Plums, raisins and a bit of funk.

Taste is all yummy. Plenty of malt that is sweet and fruity with a bit of musty and farmhouse quality to it.

Medium bodied and biting on the tongue.

Wow, this is good stuff. Just love it.

Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Richard for sharing this.

A: The pour is a cloudy goldenrod color with a soapy white head.

S: Slightly funky with lots of sweet fruit notes. I get a lot of citrus, especially oranges and tangerines, along with some apricots.

T: This is quite sweet, considering what you normally get from a Fantome saison. Mostly sweet oranges and apricots with a slight bit of that bretty Fantome yeast character underneath.

M: The body is medium with a fairly lively carbonation.

D: A pretty nice beer from Fantome, but not exactly my favorite from them either. I did enjoy all the fruitiness, however.

Photo of callmemickey
4.22/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Deep rusty copper body. Reddish-tan head about a finger and a half tall on first pour. Rood retention and nice sheet like lacing remains after each sip. Not typical saison appearance, but pretty inviting.

S: Musty. I am picking up some light sour cherries, caramel, apricots, leather, a bit of wood, and some restrained farmhouse funk.

T: Similar to the nose in overall flavor components, but its all comes together a bit differently. A bit more mild and muted.

M: Medium bodied. A little flatter than I'd like, even for a Fantôme. Soft sourness lingers just a tad in the finish.

D: A flavorful and unique saison. Would loved to have had the opportunity to drink this fresh.

Photo of craytonic
3.53/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: A bit darker (lots of ruby & copper) and a much larger head than the regular fantome saison. Some sporadic lacing down the side.

Nose: Not as tart or funky as I would hope, more caramel and apricot than expected:

Taste: Sweet, malty caramel/toffee, along with apricot and orange

Mouthfeel: Fuller than expected

Drinkability: high, perhaps a more approachable fantome, but not in a good way

Photo of sisuspeed
4.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Foothills signature glass. A thin, slightly off white head sits on top of a somewhat hazy orange-honey colored body. Bits of yeast or spice remain suspended in the beer. No lacing.

Lots of grapes, citrus, some funky fruit and bits of spice. A very interesting aroma that is somewhat difficult to pull apart, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

The taste is filled with grapes, apples, pears and other vinous notes. Malty, but not overly so. Almost reminds me of Gummie Bears, very fruity. Alcohol is slightly noticeable. Wine like with sweet malts and bits of unknown spice. A fruity saison.

Mouthfeel is fairly heavy with a robust body and prickly carbonation. Heavy, yet fairly crisp at the same time.

Drinkability is good. This is a fun one to drink, since it seems to deviate a bit in the taste from many of the other saisons I've had. Splitting a bottle with 1-2 other people is about perfect. ABV isn't overly noticeable.

Overall, I liked this Fantome quite a bit. I've only had the Hiver, but preferred this one to that one. Lots of fruitiness and a great aroma. If this were easier to find and the price were a little lower I'd probably pick up another bottle to enjoy. Worth seeking out.

Photo of Metalmonk
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a gorgeous rust/blood-orange color with some haze, tons of bubbles, some floaters (I like!) and a ridiculously creamy inch-thick head. This glass does not feature a "nucleation site," but the bubbles are cruising around in there with such energy you'd think it does. Label notes this is a "blonde" but it's not...strawberry blonde, at best.

Fruity, musty, leathery smell...a little sweat too, but the funkiness never overtakes the tart fruit essence here (mostly lemon and green apple come to mind).

Big, bold flavor with tons of character. Green apple, pear, peach and some citrus zest are tangled up in a foundation of leather and musk; essence of herbal tea and a dessert-y maltiness, like graham cracker crust, peanut brittle and toffee. Raw yet welcoming, wild yet superbly crafted. The kind of beer that sets the imagination running rampant with all kinds of flavor perceptions.

Smooth, velvety texture...buoyant and airy on the tongue. Lots of bubbles that don't gang up on the tongue for a carbonation overload...rather, they caress and do right by the flavor(s). By now it seems there's not a single weak point in this beer.

This is simply fantastic. Wow. No idea why it's called La Dalmatienne, complete with the ubiquitous Fantome ghost in front of black-spotted white wallpaper...but I would definitely buy this again, even at $15 a bottle. Can you buy a wine this good for $15?...

Photo of bobsy
4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A gusher of a bottle from Buffalo. Hazy orange liquid with a large head, great lace and retention. Its really, a striking saison, and its prolific retnetion is aided by an evidently active carbonation.

The nose is exceptionally fruity, with strong notes of mango, papaya, and other delicious tropical things. Some sweet vanilla creeps in, along with grass and hay. This is also present in the flavour, although its the fruit tones dominate. Indeed, if asked to identify the distinguishing characteristic of this saison I would point to its tropical bouqet and flavour, which surprises me, as I found the regular Fantome vinous, funky and with a light sour touch. This is obviously a diffrent beast! What else to say? Dry finish with a hint of funk, but more would be better. Occasional cider notes. Refreshing summery quality with the alchol well-concealed (it really need not be so big). The body is medium-full and almost creamy, and certainly pleasing in the mouth.

The flavour is great, but could be better. That aside everything else is pretty near exceptional. Fantomes don't come cheaply, and the cost-value ratio on this isn't as good as it could be because the beer lacks the complexity that it needs to have me plunk down $13 again, but its certainly worth a try.

Photo of nickfl
4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A - One and a half fingers of off-white head on top of a slightly hazy, copper-brown body. The foam settles quickly and leaves light lace.

S - Acidic aroma of wheat and lactic acid as well as some light funky notes. Tropical fruit notes of mango and pineapple with a hint of pear. Some spicy hop notes and a hint of sulphur.

T - Tangy malt character up front with some wheat bite. Thicker malt notes in the middle of caramel and brown sugar with a sweetness that contrasts the mild acidity in the background. Finishes with more of the rich malt as well as a lightly must funk note, some spicy hops, and both lactic and light acetic acid flavors. Lingering sweet sour acidity with a bit of pineapple and coconut in the aftertaste.

M - Medium-thick body, moderately high carbonation, and a somewhat dry, cidery finish.

D - This is a beer that lives up to the Fantome standard; complex and unusual with a balance that defies the sometimes bizarre flavors that characterize the beer. The funk is subtle, but really makes the beer into something special with a light acidity and musty character that ties the fruity yeast and herbal hops together. Quite a nice beer, it almost reminds me of a Flemmish red (there is something that tastes like oak, though I doubt this beer was fermented in fresh wood) and it is one of the best I have had form this brewery.

Photo of GRG1313
4.38/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2011 taste of the 2010/2011 release: Pours a light gold/yellow with an extremely "quick" white head that fades very rapidly.

A bit of sweet green apple nose that's more elegant and fruity than sour. Floral tones and citric orange with just a hint of sweet brett character.

Mouthfeel is lightly citric and lightly puckery. The "start" of a sour - sort of like "sour 101."

Initial front palate is a lightly sweet/lightly tart orange/tangerine character and which flavors carry through to a lemon. Alcohol is hidden and almost a "soft drink" easiness in the drinking. One must exercise care or you could drink a great deal.

Nice and a bit unique in its "fresh orange/tangerine" light sour character yet still an appealing simplicity. Finishes lightly tart orange/lemon.

* *
(2009 review):
Let's face it, we all love the labels of this producer's bottles! However, the brews? You either love them or hate them. Generally, I've been disappointed. This one is perhaps the best Fantome I've tried.

Pours a cloudy dark orange/amber with some brown tints and a thick white head.

Nose of big nice and pleasant/assertive Belgian fruit-oranges, citrus and bananas that's very appealing.

Great mouthfeel of creamy heavy citrus-orange sour. Very integrated and just "feels right" in your mouth. You want more. Pleasant and perhaps one of the most well balanced sours I've tasted. Light delicate carbonation but big sour assertive orange flavors giving way to a sour lime flavor, character and finsih.

This is a very layered, complex and pleasant sour beer.

Photo of aforbes10
4.45/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Monument in Concord. I opened it and then went searching for a glass and in the meantime the beer built up a nice head inside the bottle. Pours a mud brown with a 2-3 inch light brown head. Chunks floating around! Smells of brown sugar, plums, hazelnuts, lemon, and dry malt. Flavor is an interesting, malty, and fruity kick, made somewhat spicy in texture by the high carbonation. Plums and chocolate and truffles mixed in there too. A distinct hazelnut/amaretto on the finish, along with a slight chocolate note, which makes the overall flavor very satisfying, if a bit two-faced. Effervescent mouthfeel and medium bodied. A very textural beer with a lot of bubbles at first and a much smoother, creamier feel later on. Drinks very nicely and a memorable beer for sure. No surprise though, being that its from Fantome.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Polished persimmon with tangerine trim. A somewhat gentle pour has generated more than four fingers of whipped creamy foam that is equal parts alabaster, ecru and pastel orange. It's a lovely looking lid and is laying down loads of lace.

The nose isn't typical Fantome in that it isn't wacky and funky and delightfully deranged. It is typical, however, in that it's complex and seems to change with each sniff. The primary aromas are musky fruit peel (apricots), leather, woodsy spices (sandalwood, cedar) and a hint of horse blanket.

Along with being one of the most approachable Brasserie Fantome brews, La Dalmatienne might be the maltiest and the sweetest. Come to think of it, the former might be a direct result of the latter. I'm okay with the change, as long as the rest of the lineup stays the way it is.

Rather than saison/farmhouse ale, Belgian strong golden ale seems a more accurate style choice. The malt is toasted and ever so slightly caramel-like. The fruitiness is still primarily apricots (and maybe peaches), with an orange and lemon zest tartness in the mix as well. The spice load is on the low end and is difficult to identify as a result. As always, alcohol is nowhere to be found.

Due to all the malt sugars, the mouthfeel is bigger than usual. It still isn't anywhere close to full. The bubbles add just a hint of volume and otherwise stay out of the way. Drinking quickly is easily achieved, but I'd advise against it since the flavor should be savored and the ABV should be respected.

While La Dalmatienne is definitely delicious beer, it doesn't really seem like a creation of the immensely talented Dany Prignon. If you're concerned that the rest of the brewery's lineup is too 'out there' for you, this would be a good place to start. Sort of a 'training wheels' Fantome. No disrespect intended.

Photo of Crosling
3.85/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pros: Great appearance, long lasting foam, dark orange color. Caressing mouth feel. Nice balance, not harshly spiced or bitter. Nice aroma of herbs, lemon rind, pepper, chocolate nibs. Well balanced considering the brewer.

Cons: Very oxidized. Still don't like the brewery, but this is one of the better versions I've had.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy orangey color ale with a huge foamy head with perfect retention and great lacing. Aroma is lightly sour with typical funkyness from Fantome. Mix of orange and fruity ester with a light spicy yeast and a tart aftertaste. Full body with limited filtration and great carbonation with no signs of alcohol showing up. Quite unique like so many beer from this brewery and somewhat indescribable but still lacking a little something to makes it truly great.

Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) from Brasserie Fantôme
90 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.