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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) - Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
88
very good

69 Ratings
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Ratings: 69
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 9.97%
Wants: 13
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a black background with white spots.

(Beer added by: Thorpe429 on 11-15-2011)
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4.26/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4.25

A - Burgandy/copper, finger of light pinkish head, dissipates quickly

S - Sour grape, lemon, cranberry, raspberry

T - Initial: Sweet raspberry, grape, lemon. finish is a sour grape, spices, bitter hop level (1/10)

M - real light, light body

O - Very good. Great sweet and sour notes. Dark sour grape is wonderful. do wish it was thicker.

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4.43/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Best before 7-2014

750 mL green glass bottle with cap and cork served around 55 degrees into a goblet.

The Dalmation is unusually dark for the style, more of a redish brown color than a golden yellow. Slightly hazy appearance with fizzy off-white head. It settles slowly but doesn't leave any lacing.

Aroma is really stiking and very enjoyable. There is a distinct cherry smell mixed with apples and plums. It has a little of that sour yeasty funk and spice but it's the fruitiness that makes it truly unique.

The flavor is wonderfully complex yet perfectly balanced. There is sweetness up front, a little fruit like in the aroma, then a big spicy hit of pepper in the middle, and finally a very dry finish. It has layers of nuances that seem to unravel as the beer warms.

Mouthfeel is light in body and well-carbonated. The alcohol is evident but not strong. Great balance but very dry.

Overall another fantastic beer from Fantome. I always hesitate to pay the $15 for their beers but I never regret it once it's in my glass.

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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Amber body. Huge white head. Great retention. Good lacing.

Smell - Very fruity. Yeasty. Some caramel malt. Nothing terribly complex about it but nice.

Taste - Again it's very fruity. Berry fruit. Grain. Mild caramel. Yeasty finish. Not a ton of other flavors.

Mouthfeel - Over carbonated. Not sweet. Medium light body.

Overall - No complexity, but I enjoy it.

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4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml into my Stone IRS tulip. (Dated Best Before July, 2014). Pours a slightly hazy amber color (not what I was expecting) and about 3/4 finger of off-white head. A whole bunch of persistent little bubbles keep rising to keep the film alive. Laces very nicely. Really interesting smells going on. A slight sulphur and skunk smell up front. Then there's a really interesting funkiness (much like a Flanders red). A little sweet and sour sauce action up my nose. Tart cherry. On the palate, very unique. Maybe some bell pepper/cucumber/apple combination. Grassy. Very very bitter finish. It lingers for a long while and seems to grow almost to an unpleasant level. Almost like chewing on grapefruit pith. Very different. Mouthfeel is very drying, prickly bubbles. Incredibly unique beer. Glad I got to try this one.

Photo of claaark13
4.4/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle marked b/J(#3)(hahaha!)/14. I'm betting that this is fairly fresh. Poured at cellar temp into a Founders snifter.

A - Pours a ruby brown with a thick off-white head. Looks good. Thick lacing remains.

S - !!!! Strawberries, raspberries, light background malts. Really just a burst of fruity aromas. Slight hay and Saison spices. I had the aroma higher, but after a few minutes the smell took on a dirty, musty, sandy water aroma.

T - Tart, unnamed fruity malts upfront, then the raspberry comes through. Some of the traditional Saison spices as well as hay appear in the back 1/2. Mild fruity tartness is from start to finish; nothing abrasive, but like a near-ripe strawberry and raspberry coming together. Nearly perfect.

M - Medium, thicker for the style.

O - I was thoroughly impressed. I didn't expect so much fruit, or any fruit, at all. Strawberries take off and then raspberries take over. This reminds me in some ways of their classic Saison. I'd have to do some digging to find who sent this to me, but I'm beyond thankful. Simply amazing, now I need to pour the rest and take the dogs outside on this hot day.

EDIT - Fantome has been known for batch/bottle variation. After reading some reviews below, I'm certain that this is a great example of the variation.

Photo of smakawhat
4.18/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Ok you Fantôme there. Last time we met, things didn't go so well. There was so much potential, so much anticipation, yet my heart was crushed. I vowed that if we ever were to meet again, it better not hurt. For I sensed so much promise but you let me down. We're gonna try this one more time you and I.

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass. Best before July 2014 with a cork in the bottle. Cork pops with LOTS of pressure, WOAH there now, don't be angry at me. I know I didn't get along with you last time but let's be friends now, I am trying again to make this work. I've invested a lot here financially and emotionally in this union don't start off like this ok?!. I notice some slow crawling foam wanting to come out. The bubbles are all nice and pin head sized.

Slow decant, and then some faster down the middle pour produces a light caramel colored and very soapy head, that dissolves quite quickly. Body color is a dark indian red brown a little cloudy, kind of a nice red chestnut, very nice. Soapy collar left. Not that impressive but good enough, ok we're trying here this is a good effort.

This nose is real nice. A mix of small dark rich malt, but light brown spices, cinnamon, light LIGHT brown sugar, classic Belgian candi, orange tangerine and citrus soda, but mostly BIG RAISINS. This is looking promising. VERY promising.

Mild brett funk it seems at first, but never returns, proceeding with a large somewhat thick molasses aftertaste. Mild caramel in the front palate turns to sensing prickly carbonation. Chewy dark fruits of dates, currants, with a light bodied feel, but then a large tannic tongue smashing on the middle and raisin raisin RAISINS come out in abundance. Dancing prickly tongue with an almost watery feel and mild carbonation but no gaseous feeling. No sense of alcohol heat. Warming up quinine becomes more of a flavor to come.

Overall I was real scared to go back to Fantôme there, Belgian "Dark" specifically doesn't always jive for a fav style of mine, but this is something real special, very unique, never tasted anything quite like it. I am glad to see you and I Mr. Casper ghost staring at me so evilly are seeing eye to eye now. I worked real hard to make this relationship work you know. Glad to see your true colors and that I don't have to fight like this so much again, you're not exactly cheap where I live either. I would really love to try the light I guess Blonde version of this. We will meet again in earnest. Adieu.

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Photo of musicforairports
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The review below has been moved over to the "dark" version now that there are two available to review.

Lot B, best by July 2014, into a tulip.

Cloudy ruby-brown color, decent head, some lacing.

Smells like candi sugar, some darker malt, apple and other fruit.

Taste has strong notes of chocolate and green apple; as it warms, it becomes heavy on candi sugar and a musty apple character.

Mouthfeel is smooth and medium. Not as carbonated as you might expect.

This is a good twist on a saison, with the chocolate notes. Could do with a bit less candi sugar. Fantome makes better beers, but that doesn't mean this one is bad. It's pretty complex.

Photo of NittanyBeerFan
4.35/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Originally reviewed on 4.11.2010

Poured from a capped 750mL bottle into my tulip glass. The bottle says "Belgian Blond Ale," so I am not sure that this should be called a saison.

When poured with a delicate touch, a big and ample 2-finger head collects atop the caramel coppery body of the beer, even as the beer doesn't reach the convergent/divergent transition in my tulip. Even after the head subsides, a quick swirl recreates the creamy cap that appeared after the pour. Lacing is spritzy and comes in little groups of spotty bubbles.

The aroma is full of brettanomyces funk, but it is unique in my experience, as La Dalmatienne is also characterized by a sweet maltiness in the smell. Sour cherries also come along for the ride. Digging deeper, other fruity esters come through - apricot and pears mainly. There is also, obviously, that barnyard scent that Fantome does so well. The palate brings on a big malty sweetness that is nicely balanced by the bretty funk and slight sourness. The sourness isn't acidic, and is very pleasant. The fruity esters really add a lot to the beer, and they make the malty sweetness find its place nicely.

The mouthfeel is full, but still lightly carbonated, even though there are tons of bubbles that seem to impregnate the entire body. There is a creamy quality to the finish, and the fruity esters and sweetness linger on the palate.

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Photo of oline73
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a goblet

Appearance: Pours a cloudy reddish amber with a finger of off white head. The head fades to a layer on top of the pour.

Smell: Quite fruity with some mildly sweet malt. The fruit reminds me of sweet and slightly tart berries.

Taste: Light and fruity just like the smell. I would have liked the taste to be a tad fuller. Fruity up front with some berries and a slight tartness. I keep thinking I'm getting some bubble gum. The finish is just little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy, tingly carbonation and a very dry finish.

Overall: Another solid offering from this brewery. I enjoyed the fruity notes, but there wasn't quite enough to back it up. I would have another.

Photo of cbutova
4.53/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Originally reviewed 07/31/11, moved over to this profile for obvious reasons.

A mysterious beer, couldn't find much info about this one.

A- Amber-brown body with a fizzy, bubbly head that forms up to a pretty nice size and has decent retention. No lace on the glass once the head fizzes out.

S- A prevalent fruit note that I can't quite name, juicy exotic peach type feel. Citrus fruit, lavender, floral and more fruit notes.

T- Similar to the nose but with more spice and a bit less fruit. The base has a solid Belgian Strong Dark feel. The unnamed fruit, lemon zest, floral lavender, slight hay barnyard, caramel, oak and raisin make for a complex experience.

MF- Fizzy bodied with high, silky carbonation. Some spice bitterness.

A very interesting, unique beer with flavors I have a hard time putting into words. Great fruit with a good Belgian Strong Dark base.

Photo of DaveHS
3.53/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours hazy dark brown with over an inch of fluffy pollen yellow/off white head. Leaves spotty,, sticky lacing.

S-That old familiar grassy, earthy Fantome funk. Pond water, musty old wood, a fruit aroma that's hard to place. Maybe cherry juice?

T/M-Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a dry, hoppy finish. Fairly nondescript. Tastes like a Belgian amber spiked with saison yeast. Dry, earthy hoppiness brings the finish to a screeching halt, obliterating everything that came before it.

O-Not one of Fantome's best. I've come to expect great things from this brewery, as almost everythihg I've had from them has been creative, complex and packed to the brim with funk. This was bland in comparison.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle at a recent Fantome mega-tasting. Served in a Fantome tulip. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a hazy dark brown with a thin tan head. The nose has a light chocolate character with a bit of roast and earth. Some herbal character there as well. The flavor is full of chocolate with light herbal spices and roast. Finish is dry. The herbal character is odd here. Light body with moderate carbonation. Decent enough, but an off finish.

Photo of jlindros
3.84/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Nice fluffy head, creamy lacing, dark hazy reddish mahogany color.

Nose candy sweet malts, caramel toasty, candi sugar, light grainy malt and maple candy like, little floral spices, bit of fruity esters and phenols.

Taste sweet candy malts, toasty reddish malts, candy sugar, light grainy malt, sweet syrupy, light floral saison spices but no saison, bitter slight earthy hops, fruity esters, light phenols, fairly bitter. Finish is sweet, candy malts, candy sugar, syrupy but dry, little sticky, light esters lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent carb, sticky sweet.

Overall ok but nothing special.

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4/5  rDev +2.3%

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3.25/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of PerHops
3.68/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from corked 750 ml bottle

A- Dark amber with 1 inch head that settles to a nice thin layer.

S- Ripe cherries, Green apple, minerals

T- Very unsual. Starts off acidic, fresh apple, bitter but than slowly moves into caramel, dark fruit and a bitter chocolate cigar finish. High alcohol is noticeable.

M- Starts off subtle, carbonation kicks in and finishes nicely.

O- This falls into that proverbial category of "good beer".

Serving type: bottle

Reviewed on: 08-29-2011 04:57:34

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4/5  rDev +2.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of kojevergas
4.09/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best before July 2014. 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green glass bottle with pressure cap sealed over an internally housed acquired at a nearby bottle shop for $22.00 (about $7.00 more than I usually pay for Fantome in SoCal) and served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Expectations are through the roof as I usually love Fantome.

Imported by the Shelton Bastards. No wonder it's so pricey. 8% ABV confirmed.

Served following a warming period following its removal from the refrigerator. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a three finger light khaki colour head of great cream, brilliant froth, fantastic thickness, and incredible retention for the 8% ABV (~8+ minutes). Quite impressive. The body colour is a vibrant if understated caramel amber-brown. (Mahogany for the pretentious). Nontransparent and opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Very appealing for a saison. I'm getting excited.

Sm: Holy shit that's fantastic. Bright evocative fruits and fermented sugars. Cream, brown sugar, ripe cherries and berries, spicy biscuity yeast, raisin, light vine, caramel, candi sugar, and more of that luxurious fermented fruit. I can't pin down exactly which fruits, but it's not the dark fruit of a quad or dubbel. Definitely rich raspberry. Heavy biscuit malt, with some other perfectly selected grains there as well. It's exquisite. Perfect. I can't imagine it being any better. I cannot wait to try this. The best aroma I've experienced in probably the last six months. Strong, rich, and luxurious. Possess incredible elegance, subtlety, and complexity.

No alcohol is detectable.

T: Raisin, bright evocative rich berries, biscuity spicy perfect yeasty notes, vinous character, brown sugar, a biscuit malt foundation, perfect caramelization, and grainy depth. Evokes dried fruit. Dessert wine character is subtle on the fringe. Lactose. Light fruit tartness. White pepper - a requisite note in any great saison. I don't know what gives it its tart complexity and spiciness; it could be seeds, earthy specialty grains, or obscure spices. All I know is the result is incredible. Light earthiness buried beneath the spiced malts. Light floral hops. Strawberry, maybe? Fig and dates. Currants. Oaky tones. Pear. Spicy green apple. The complexity and depth of flavour is staggering. Brilliant subtlety too. I love the fruit and yeasty notes. Nectary. Balance is near perfect.

Mf: Creamy, coarse, tingly, and wet. Smooth up front to welcome you in. Feels custom-tailored to the flavour profile. Very well executed. Perfect carbonation. Ideal palate presence, allowing all the subtlety to come through.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the high ABV - which never comes through in the flavours. A home run from Fantome. Perhaps the best saison I've ever had. I'll have no trouble finishing this bottle by myself. Worth the $22 I paid for it. The best beer I've had from Fantome to date. Pick up a few bottles for the cellar; this one comes highly recommended.

Lowish A-

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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) from Brasserie Fantôme
88 out of 100 based on 69 ratings.