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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) - Brasserie Fantôme

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Reviews: 33
Hads: 69
rAvg: 4
pDev: 4.5%
Wants: 13
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Thorpe429 on 11-15-2011

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Reviews: 33 | Hads: 69
Photo of DaveHS
3.53/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours hazy dark brown with over an inch of fluffy pollen yellow/off white head. Leaves spotty,, sticky lacing.

S-That old familiar grassy, earthy Fantome funk. Pond water, musty old wood, a fruit aroma that's hard to place. Maybe cherry juice?

T/M-Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a dry, hoppy finish. Fairly nondescript. Tastes like a Belgian amber spiked with saison yeast. Dry, earthy hoppiness brings the finish to a screeching halt, obliterating everything that came before it.

O-Not one of Fantome's best. I've come to expect great things from this brewery, as almost everythihg I've had from them has been creative, complex and packed to the brim with funk. This was bland in comparison. (710 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.53/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Thorpe429. Thanks Mike!

Sampled alongside twenty other Fantôme brews.

The beer has a muddy brown appearance with a thin, tan head. Aromas include earth, funk, dank yeast, as well as some herbal and floral notes. Decent flavor, though like La Dalmatienne blonde version, not among my favorite Fantôme brews of the evening. Earth and herbs come through quite a bit. Medium bodied. Overall, worth a try, but not something I would seek out again. (463 characters)

Photo of PerHops
3.68/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from corked 750 ml bottle

A- Dark amber with 1 inch head that settles to a nice thin layer.

S- Ripe cherries, Green apple, minerals

T- Very unsual. Starts off acidic, fresh apple, bitter but than slowly moves into caramel, dark fruit and a bitter chocolate cigar finish. High alcohol is noticeable.

M- Starts off subtle, carbonation kicks in and finishes nicely.

O- This falls into that proverbial category of "good beer".

Serving type: bottle

Reviewed on: 08-29-2011 04:57:34 (491 characters)

Photo of craytonic
3.68/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark pour with a smallish tan, minimal lacing

Smell: Sweet bready malts with herbs and roast, touch of chocolate

Taste: Similar to the aroma, chocolate, herbs, sweet bread malts, touch of earth and fantome funk

MOuthfeel: Medium body, typical fantome

Overall: Alright, not one of my favorite fantomes. (317 characters)

Photo of mentor
3.7/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Gift fom Geuezedude, thanks a bunch. Pours a four finger cream-tan head over a cloudy red-brown liquid. Smells lemon sour, orange oils, rye, dried hay, candi-sugar, mild alcohol, and some Brett.

Tastes caramel sweet, candi sugar, red fruits, and rounded phenolic. I don't know what that phenol is, but it is one of the most unpleasant flavors I've ever encountered. I find it in belgian-styled beer from time to time and just think it's hideous. Most people don't mind it, in fact, my wife thinks it adds an interesting dimension. Bleech. Chalky toffee, pear juice, old italian herbs (yes, in an unpleasant way), mild peppery, and finishes with a dash of lemony tart. Md-light body with some creaminess. Strong carbonation can't lift the sweet from the palate like I'd expect from a saison. Complex, but misses on the 'lightness' factor of a saison. Rated to style, not my taste preferences. (892 characters)

Photo of FLima
3.77/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Stomp when opened, good sign.
Nice amber orange color with a huge beige fluffy head with medium retention.
Aroma with notes of oranges, lots of mint, brown sugar, booze and caramels.
Flavor with vinous notes, lots of berries, pineapple and coconut, mint, herbal hops, caramel and slightly toasted malts, mild spices and oxidized apples.
Medium towards full body with medium carbonation. A bit sticky and its alcohol of 8% abv is definitely there.
Very sweet and fruity Saison like they had fermented just fruits, hoppier than average and with an incredible and diverse complexity. I found it a bit too sweet and boozy, though. Not that easy to drink the full bottle. (666 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.78/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle at a recent Fantome mega-tasting. Served in a Fantome tulip. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a hazy dark brown with a thin tan head. The nose has a light chocolate character with a bit of roast and earth. Some herbal character there as well. The flavor is full of chocolate with light herbal spices and roast. Finish is dry. The herbal character is odd here. Light body with moderate carbonation. Decent enough, but an off finish. (435 characters)

Photo of rudzud
3.78/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes and shared with bpk59.

A - Poured into a Duvel tulip a nice slightly hazy reddish amber with a nice one finger offwhite head.

S - Rather shockingly sweet and spicy. This is a saison? Lots of carmel and some slight fruits. Really odd for me.

T - Taste is only slightly better. Gettign some fruit (green apple) and spice notes. A bit of bubblegum too with some molassess as well.

M - Mouthfeel is fairly nice with good carbonation. Nice and light on the tongue.

O - Overall I felt this was a good beer, but just paled in comparison to the original Fantome. Would rather have a bottle of that for less. (624 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
3.8/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 11/05/11 notes. Bottle shared by yourfragile at the mega-Fantome tasting. Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Cigar City snifter.

a - Pours a dark brown mahogany color with one inch of light tan head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells spices, dark fruits, earthy notes, light roasted malts, and light chocolate. Pretty nice nose.

t - Tastes of roasted malts and notes, spices, fruit, spices, pepper, earthy notes.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Pretty easy to drink.

o - Overall a good beer, and significantly better than the La Dalmatienne Light. Some nice roasted notes to this one. Different than most Fantome beers, and something I'd like to have again. (687 characters)

Photo of oline73
3.83/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a goblet

Appearance: Pours a cloudy reddish amber with a finger of off white head. The head fades to a layer on top of the pour.

Smell: Quite fruity with some mildly sweet malt. The fruit reminds me of sweet and slightly tart berries.

Taste: Light and fruity just like the smell. I would have liked the taste to be a tad fuller. Fruity up front with some berries and a slight tartness. I keep thinking I'm getting some bubble gum. The finish is just little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy, tingly carbonation and a very dry finish.

Overall: Another solid offering from this brewery. I enjoyed the fruity notes, but there wasn't quite enough to back it up. I would have another. (720 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.85/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Nice fluffy head, creamy lacing, dark hazy reddish mahogany color.

Nose candy sweet malts, caramel toasty, candi sugar, light grainy malt and maple candy like, little floral spices, bit of fruity esters and phenols.

Taste sweet candy malts, toasty reddish malts, candy sugar, light grainy malt, sweet syrupy, light floral saison spices but no saison, bitter slight earthy hops, fruity esters, light phenols, fairly bitter. Finish is sweet, candy malts, candy sugar, syrupy but dry, little sticky, light esters lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent carb, sticky sweet.

Overall ok but nothing special. (611 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.9/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Amber body. Huge white head. Great retention. Good lacing.

Smell - Very fruity. Yeasty. Some caramel malt. Nothing terribly complex about it but nice.

Taste - Again it's very fruity. Berry fruit. Grain. Mild caramel. Yeasty finish. Not a ton of other flavors.

Mouthfeel - Over carbonated. Not sweet. Medium light body.

Overall - No complexity, but I enjoy it. (415 characters)

Photo of ShogoKawada
3.9/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

ah, the dark. review merged from the end of my dalmatienne light review:

update- drinking the amber, it's miles apart from the golden.

Malty, sweet dark fruit, a bit of pepper. Not much funk. Very sweet, but I like it. The nose on this one is like tropical fruit punch! I taste hints of blueberries and strawberries as it warms. The jammy fruit aspect is very odd but I like it. Lively mouthfeel.

I liked the 'light' more.. this one's very easy to drink and has nice carbonation but the other one had a ton of signature fantome funk and a nice sourness. The blonde was almost flat as well. A totally different beer, almost on opposite ends of the spectrum. (661 characters)

Photo of alpinebryant
3.92/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle batch b, 3, / 14
A: Pours a massively powerful light brown head overflowing the bottle still after a pour and the pressure was released. This has been in my kegerator for over a month, so glad it had time to settle in there. Pours a murky rust colored brown with sediment at the top of the bottle peeking out after the overflow.

S: Aroma of fruity strawberries, lacto, a refreshing lot of mixed spices and berries.

T: Wow this was much sweeter than I envisioned, tasting primarily of fresh berry fruit, with lacto and some tart oriented spices. There is plenty of tartness in the flavor here, but hard to pick up exactly what has caused it. Wild flowers? Dandelions? Raspberry seeds? Hard to guess, but it does taste as good as it is different.

M: Dry and overcarbonated. Just on the overflow, I have to say too much carbonation, but once it settled for about ten minutes it did taste quite pleasing.

O: This is another satisfyingly different Saison from Fantome. Glad to have tried it and would drink again, but I think I would prefer some of their other offerings over this. The color of course is a nice treat for a Saison, and primarily the main addition I got from the color was the chocolate malt flavors that came out of the malt. (1,250 characters)

Photo of musicforairports
3.97/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The review below has been moved over to the "dark" version now that there are two available to review.

Lot B, best by July 2014, into a tulip.

Cloudy ruby-brown color, decent head, some lacing.

Smells like candi sugar, some darker malt, apple and other fruit.

Taste has strong notes of chocolate and green apple; as it warms, it becomes heavy on candi sugar and a musty apple character.

Mouthfeel is smooth and medium. Not as carbonated as you might expect.

This is a good twist on a saison, with the chocolate notes. Could do with a bit less candi sugar. Fantome makes better beers, but that doesn't mean this one is bad. It's pretty complex. (649 characters)

Photo of stakem
3.98/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ive been holding on to this bottle for awhile waiting to get the light version to drink side by side with it. I gave into curiosity and opened it this past weekend with friends. Poured into some matching Fantome tulips the brew pours a deep ruby to mahogany color with a yellowish tan finger of head. Some patchy lace sticks to the glass and rising bubbles maintain a half finger throughout the duration.

The aroma is very fruity like currents initially that fades to more of a tart smelling essence of cranberry. A hint of maltiness like toffee provides a base of sweetness for the fruit to play off. As it warms up, there is a bit of lemony lacto-like tartnesss to the nose.

The flavor is slightly boozy with a fruited aspect like the previously mentioned currents and cranberries. Some toasty malt sits underneath with a toffee sweetness and bready malt contrasted by hebal bitterness. The brew is somewhat medicinal as meaty with a mineral feel into the aftertaste.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest to fizzy amount of carbonation. One of the more boozy feeling, tart and fruity Fantome offeringd I have had. A crazy unique combination of character. Cranberry seemed to have an unshakeable impact in this brew that was pleasant. I wouldnt mind having more of this. (1,280 characters)

Photo of WestValleyIPA
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml into my Stone IRS tulip. (Dated Best Before July, 2014). Pours a slightly hazy amber color (not what I was expecting) and about 3/4 finger of off-white head. A whole bunch of persistent little bubbles keep rising to keep the film alive. Laces very nicely. Really interesting smells going on. A slight sulphur and skunk smell up front. Then there's a really interesting funkiness (much like a Flanders red). A little sweet and sour sauce action up my nose. Tart cherry. On the palate, very unique. Maybe some bell pepper/cucumber/apple combination. Grassy. Very very bitter finish. It lingers for a long while and seems to grow almost to an unpleasant level. Almost like chewing on grapefruit pith. Very different. Mouthfeel is very drying, prickly bubbles. Incredibly unique beer. Glad I got to try this one. (828 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour from Wowcoolman’s tasting.

Pours a murky dark orange with a foamy tan head that settles to a small cap on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, fruit, spices, yeast, and some floral aromas. Taste is much the same with a mild spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some nice aromas and flavors. (483 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Nate for sharing this one. Served in a Surly Dakness glass. Lot b, best before July 2014.

A - A finger-plus of off-white foam settles to a medium cap and slightly thicker collar. There's minimal lacing, and the body is an opaque amber color.

S - This tastes like a strange blend of saison, quad, and English brown ale. There's some dark candi sugar, the trademark Saison pale malt 'pez' flavor, a bit of phenolic yeast, some cola nut, hand lotion, and a faint sour lemon finish. An herbal greens aroma emerges as the beer warms up.

T - Milled and lightly toasted grains, mixed with nuts, mlik chocolate, and cola, again reminds me of a brown ale, but there's the candi sugar mingling with stone fruits, lotion, and Belgian yeast. Light herbal bitterness in the finish, but otherwise surprisingly clean.

M - Pleasant active carbonation, a slightly grainy medium body, well-hidden alcohol (if this is actually 8%), and a lightly sticky finish. Somewhat innocuous compared to the bizarre flavor combinations.

D - A very odd beer that seems like it could have been blended from other ones. That being said it was surprisingly drinkable, and the flavors all seemed to find a place and not clash with one another. I'd definitely have it again, and it's quintessentially Fantôme alright. (1,296 characters)

Photo of DovaliHops
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Good to see that the dark version is on here now. Been keepin it in my notes until now. Pours a dark amber color with a large white head that goes down slowly. Scent is bready with a light hint of funk and a lot of pepper. A little chocolatey and very fruity. Taste is initially malty with some green apple. Then I get a bit of funk and a lot of spicy pepper. Hints of dark fruit and chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and nicely carbonated. Dry finish. Drinkability is high. Overall, this one is COMPLETELY different than the "light" one. The one is not as good though. The only thing better in this beer is the carbonation. Still awesome though. (650 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
4.05/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Served out of a Fantome tulip because I am seriously the man side by side with the other dalmatian beer.

This one is dark, cause the spots on the dog are dark, brown with a thin head of off white / tan bubbles, minimal lacing, low retention.

Aroma is sweet, bready, mild roast, a little bitterness from a chocolate like substance?

Beer is a little spicy, tea like with a earthiness you can get from leaves or herbs, mild chocolate flavor and bitterness, mostly a sweet beer, good bodied, nice finish, decent. (512 characters)

Photo of celticfutblclub
4.08/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle poured into a pint glass.

A - a gorgeous copper brown body with three fingers of foamy vanilla colored head that lingers real well and laces the glass beautifully.

S - notes of grain, caramel, yeast and a whole bunch of spices/herbs in the back. a good inviting nose.

T - theres some sweet malts up front grain and cracker notes followed by a nice citrus bite in the back which leads into just spice/herb bittering madness. its damn good. noticing a bit of a molasses after taste as well.

M - closer to medium bodied than most saisons as this is a winter brew. it seems almost coarse on the tongue. lots of bubbly carbonation in there as well.

O - this is a superb saison and quite glad i made the detour this past weekend to pick it up. (756 characters)

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.1/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, capped but not corked, bought 2 months ago at City Beverage for $15.39. I've been sorta saving it, and then last night I heard that Dany Prignon might be closing Fantome. Hopefully just propaganda, but it got Fantome in my head and here I am.

Nothing on the bottle to describe what went into this beer, just the standard Fantome "regular" saison descriptions on the label. Shooting blind, here goes. The beer is dark reddish copper, more red than other Fantome saisons, with some good sized floating yeasty chunks. The aroma is very one-of-a-kind, not the normal Fantome funk but rather kinda fruity. It smells a lot like some sweet-tart like candy I had as a kid, I can't quite place it, but the general adjectives would be chalky and fruity-sweet. A little bit of wood, cedar or redwood) and leather, but mainly sweet tart candy.

This tastes really sweet, sweet malts and esters with just a little tartness and chalk in the aftertaste. The overall result is flavorful and tasty, but not really as good as the regular Fantome, Printemps, Hiver, and Automne. I guess I just like my Fantomes more funky.

Medium body, no noticeable alcohol, goes down like liquid candy. Which it might in fact have, it seems sweeter than just malts alone would make it, probably there's candi sugar in this beer too. Very good, but I'm not too sad that this one is somewhat rare. As long as Dany stays open and makes the regular Fantome I'll be happy.

EDIT: I just got a beermail from Dany indicating that he has no plans to stop brewing. It was just a rumor, thank God. (1,569 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
4.14/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best before July 2014. 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green glass bottle with pressure cap sealed over an internally housed acquired at a nearby bottle shop for $22.00 (about $7.00 more than I usually pay for Fantome in SoCal) and served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Expectations are through the roof as I usually love Fantome.

Imported by the Shelton Bastards. No wonder it's so pricey. 8% ABV confirmed.

Served following a warming period following its removal from the refrigerator. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a three finger light khaki colour head of great cream, brilliant froth, fantastic thickness, and incredible retention for the 8% ABV (~8+ minutes). Quite impressive. The body colour is a vibrant if understated caramel amber-brown. (Mahogany for the pretentious). Nontransparent and opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Very appealing for a saison. I'm getting excited.

Sm: Holy shit that's fantastic. Bright evocative fruits and fermented sugars. Cream, brown sugar, ripe cherries and berries, spicy biscuity yeast, raisin, light vine, caramel, candi sugar, and more of that luxurious fermented fruit. I can't pin down exactly which fruits, but it's not the dark fruit of a quad or dubbel. Definitely rich raspberry. Heavy biscuit malt, with some other perfectly selected grains there as well. It's exquisite. Perfect. I can't imagine it being any better. I cannot wait to try this. The best aroma I've experienced in probably the last six months. Strong, rich, and luxurious. Possess incredible elegance, subtlety, and complexity.

No alcohol is detectable.

T: Raisin, bright evocative rich berries, biscuity spicy perfect yeasty notes, vinous character, brown sugar, a biscuit malt foundation, perfect caramelization, and grainy depth. Evokes dried fruit. Dessert wine character is subtle on the fringe. Lactose. Light fruit tartness. White pepper - a requisite note in any great saison. I don't know what gives it its tart complexity and spiciness; it could be seeds, earthy specialty grains, or obscure spices. All I know is the result is incredible. Light earthiness buried beneath the spiced malts. Light floral hops. Strawberry, maybe? Fig and dates. Currants. Oaky tones. Pear. Spicy green apple. The complexity and depth of flavour is staggering. Brilliant subtlety too. I love the fruit and yeasty notes. Nectary. Balance is near perfect.

Mf: Creamy, coarse, tingly, and wet. Smooth up front to welcome you in. Feels custom-tailored to the flavour profile. Very well executed. Perfect carbonation. Ideal palate presence, allowing all the subtlety to come through.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the high ABV - which never comes through in the flavours. A home run from Fantome. Perhaps the best saison I've ever had. I'll have no trouble finishing this bottle by myself. Worth the $22 I paid for it. The best beer I've had from Fantome to date. Pick up a few bottles for the cellar; this one comes highly recommended.

Lowish A- (3,089 characters)

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4.15/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a murky, ruddy amber with a thick off-white head.

S: Huge fruity aromas are present on the nose. There's definitely plenty of cider apple and spiced pear here. As the beer settles down a bit, I get scents of caramel, raisin, dates, figs, currants, blueberry, and elderberry. There's also a slight musty earthiness on the nose that keeps the fruit from being overpowering.

T: Surprisingly soft on the palate with blueberry, elderberry, currant, fig, date, raisin, caramel, oak, spiced pear, and cider apple flavors. Around mid-palate, must, lactic yeast, papaya, passion fruit, and pineapple flavors kick in and deliver, as an earlier reviewer so astutely put it, a tropical punch-like flavor. The finish is sweet and mildly yeasty with notes of blueberry, currant, date, and fig blending with oak, lactic yeast, and pineapple notes.

M: Medium-bodied, very dry, and acidic. Carbonation is gentler than one would expect. Alcohol is pretty pronounced.

O: This is an excellent saison. Like all of Brasserie Fantome's beers, it is unique, a beer that is hard to compare to any others of its style. Definitely worth seeking out and savoring. (1,149 characters)

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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) from Brasserie Fantôme
88 out of 100 based on 33 ratings.