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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) - Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
87
very good

69 Ratings
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Ratings: 69
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 9.97%
Wants: 13
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a black background with white spots.

(Beer added by: Thorpe429 on 11-15-2011)
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3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

t0rin0, Sep 01, 2012
Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour from Wowcoolman’s tasting.

Pours a murky dark orange with a foamy tan head that settles to a small cap on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, fruit, spices, yeast, and some floral aromas. Taste is much the same with a mild spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some nice aromas and flavors.

UCLABrewN84, Aug 28, 2012
Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev +2.3%

zestar, Oct 16, 2014
Photo of Thorpe429
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle at a recent Fantome mega-tasting. Served in a Fantome tulip. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a hazy dark brown with a thin tan head. The nose has a light chocolate character with a bit of roast and earth. Some herbal character there as well. The flavor is full of chocolate with light herbal spices and roast. Finish is dry. The herbal character is odd here. Light body with moderate carbonation. Decent enough, but an off finish.

Thorpe429, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +2.3%

nmann08, Feb 07, 2012
Photo of JAHMUR
3.5/5  rDev -10.5%

JAHMUR, May 15, 2013
Photo of MasterSki
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Nate for sharing this one. Served in a Surly Dakness glass. Lot b, best before July 2014.

A - A finger-plus of off-white foam settles to a medium cap and slightly thicker collar. There's minimal lacing, and the body is an opaque amber color.

S - This tastes like a strange blend of saison, quad, and English brown ale. There's some dark candi sugar, the trademark Saison pale malt 'pez' flavor, a bit of phenolic yeast, some cola nut, hand lotion, and a faint sour lemon finish. An herbal greens aroma emerges as the beer warms up.

T - Milled and lightly toasted grains, mixed with nuts, mlik chocolate, and cola, again reminds me of a brown ale, but there's the candi sugar mingling with stone fruits, lotion, and Belgian yeast. Light herbal bitterness in the finish, but otherwise surprisingly clean.

M - Pleasant active carbonation, a slightly grainy medium body, well-hidden alcohol (if this is actually 8%), and a lightly sticky finish. Somewhat innocuous compared to the bizarre flavor combinations.

D - A very odd beer that seems like it could have been blended from other ones. That being said it was surprisingly drinkable, and the flavors all seemed to find a place and not clash with one another. I'd definitely have it again, and it's quintessentially Fantôme alright.

MasterSki, Dec 15, 2011
Photo of jlindros
3.84/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Nice fluffy head, creamy lacing, dark hazy reddish mahogany color.

Nose candy sweet malts, caramel toasty, candi sugar, light grainy malt and maple candy like, little floral spices, bit of fruity esters and phenols.

Taste sweet candy malts, toasty reddish malts, candy sugar, light grainy malt, sweet syrupy, light floral saison spices but no saison, bitter slight earthy hops, fruity esters, light phenols, fairly bitter. Finish is sweet, candy malts, candy sugar, syrupy but dry, little sticky, light esters lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent carb, sticky sweet.

Overall ok but nothing special.

jlindros, Jul 22, 2013
Photo of drabmuh
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Served out of a Fantome tulip because I am seriously the man side by side with the other dalmatian beer.

This one is dark, cause the spots on the dog are dark, brown with a thin head of off white / tan bubbles, minimal lacing, low retention.

Aroma is sweet, bready, mild roast, a little bitterness from a chocolate like substance?

Beer is a little spicy, tea like with a earthiness you can get from leaves or herbs, mild chocolate flavor and bitterness, mostly a sweet beer, good bodied, nice finish, decent.

drabmuh, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of oline73
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a goblet

Appearance: Pours a cloudy reddish amber with a finger of off white head. The head fades to a layer on top of the pour.

Smell: Quite fruity with some mildly sweet malt. The fruit reminds me of sweet and slightly tart berries.

Taste: Light and fruity just like the smell. I would have liked the taste to be a tad fuller. Fruity up front with some berries and a slight tartness. I keep thinking I'm getting some bubble gum. The finish is just little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy, tingly carbonation and a very dry finish.

Overall: Another solid offering from this brewery. I enjoyed the fruity notes, but there wasn't quite enough to back it up. I would have another.

oline73, Jan 23, 2012
Photo of mdfb79
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 11/05/11 notes. Bottle shared by yourfragile at the mega-Fantome tasting. Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Cigar City snifter.

a - Pours a dark brown mahogany color with one inch of light tan head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells spices, dark fruits, earthy notes, light roasted malts, and light chocolate. Pretty nice nose.

t - Tastes of roasted malts and notes, spices, fruit, spices, pepper, earthy notes.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Pretty easy to drink.

o - Overall a good beer, and significantly better than the La Dalmatienne Light. Some nice roasted notes to this one. Different than most Fantome beers, and something I'd like to have again.

mdfb79, Nov 18, 2011
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5/5  rDev +27.9%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 26, 2011
Photo of kojevergas
4.09/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best before July 2014. 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green glass bottle with pressure cap sealed over an internally housed acquired at a nearby bottle shop for $22.00 (about $7.00 more than I usually pay for Fantome in SoCal) and served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Expectations are through the roof as I usually love Fantome.

Imported by the Shelton Bastards. No wonder it's so pricey. 8% ABV confirmed.

Served following a warming period following its removal from the refrigerator. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a three finger light khaki colour head of great cream, brilliant froth, fantastic thickness, and incredible retention for the 8% ABV (~8+ minutes). Quite impressive. The body colour is a vibrant if understated caramel amber-brown. (Mahogany for the pretentious). Nontransparent and opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Very appealing for a saison. I'm getting excited.

Sm: Holy shit that's fantastic. Bright evocative fruits and fermented sugars. Cream, brown sugar, ripe cherries and berries, spicy biscuity yeast, raisin, light vine, caramel, candi sugar, and more of that luxurious fermented fruit. I can't pin down exactly which fruits, but it's not the dark fruit of a quad or dubbel. Definitely rich raspberry. Heavy biscuit malt, with some other perfectly selected grains there as well. It's exquisite. Perfect. I can't imagine it being any better. I cannot wait to try this. The best aroma I've experienced in probably the last six months. Strong, rich, and luxurious. Possess incredible elegance, subtlety, and complexity.

No alcohol is detectable.

T: Raisin, bright evocative rich berries, biscuity spicy perfect yeasty notes, vinous character, brown sugar, a biscuit malt foundation, perfect caramelization, and grainy depth. Evokes dried fruit. Dessert wine character is subtle on the fringe. Lactose. Light fruit tartness. White pepper - a requisite note in any great saison. I don't know what gives it its tart complexity and spiciness; it could be seeds, earthy specialty grains, or obscure spices. All I know is the result is incredible. Light earthiness buried beneath the spiced malts. Light floral hops. Strawberry, maybe? Fig and dates. Currants. Oaky tones. Pear. Spicy green apple. The complexity and depth of flavour is staggering. Brilliant subtlety too. I love the fruit and yeasty notes. Nectary. Balance is near perfect.

Mf: Creamy, coarse, tingly, and wet. Smooth up front to welcome you in. Feels custom-tailored to the flavour profile. Very well executed. Perfect carbonation. Ideal palate presence, allowing all the subtlety to come through.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the high ABV - which never comes through in the flavours. A home run from Fantome. Perhaps the best saison I've ever had. I'll have no trouble finishing this bottle by myself. Worth the $22 I paid for it. The best beer I've had from Fantome to date. Pick up a few bottles for the cellar; this one comes highly recommended.

Lowish A-

kojevergas, Jan 19, 2013
Photo of drewone
3.25/5  rDev -16.9%

drewone, Aug 27, 2012
Photo of yourefragile
4/5  rDev +2.3%

yourefragile, Oct 11, 2013
Photo of stakem
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ive been holding on to this bottle for awhile waiting to get the light version to drink side by side with it. I gave into curiosity and opened it this past weekend with friends. Poured into some matching Fantome tulips the brew pours a deep ruby to mahogany color with a yellowish tan finger of head. Some patchy lace sticks to the glass and rising bubbles maintain a half finger throughout the duration.

The aroma is very fruity like currents initially that fades to more of a tart smelling essence of cranberry. A hint of maltiness like toffee provides a base of sweetness for the fruit to play off. As it warms up, there is a bit of lemony lacto-like tartnesss to the nose.

The flavor is slightly boozy with a fruited aspect like the previously mentioned currents and cranberries. Some toasty malt sits underneath with a toffee sweetness and bready malt contrasted by hebal bitterness. The brew is somewhat medicinal as meaty with a mineral feel into the aftertaste.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest to fizzy amount of carbonation. One of the more boozy feeling, tart and fruity Fantome offeringd I have had. A crazy unique combination of character. Cranberry seemed to have an unshakeable impact in this brew that was pleasant. I wouldnt mind having more of this.

stakem, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of Huhzubendah
3.53/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Thorpe429. Thanks Mike!

Sampled alongside twenty other Fantôme brews.

The beer has a muddy brown appearance with a thin, tan head. Aromas include earth, funk, dank yeast, as well as some herbal and floral notes. Decent flavor, though like La Dalmatienne blonde version, not among my favorite Fantôme brews of the evening. Earth and herbs come through quite a bit. Medium bodied. Overall, worth a try, but not something I would seek out again.

Huhzubendah, Nov 16, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +8.7%

afsdan, May 29, 2014
Photo of Gonzoillini
3.5/5  rDev -10.5%

Gonzoillini, Jun 01, 2014
Photo of smakawhat
4.18/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Ok you Fantôme there. Last time we met, things didn't go so well. There was so much potential, so much anticipation, yet my heart was crushed. I vowed that if we ever were to meet again, it better not hurt. For I sensed so much promise but you let me down. We're gonna try this one more time you and I.

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass. Best before July 2014 with a cork in the bottle. Cork pops with LOTS of pressure, WOAH there now, don't be angry at me. I know I didn't get along with you last time but let's be friends now, I am trying again to make this work. I've invested a lot here financially and emotionally in this union don't start off like this ok?!. I notice some slow crawling foam wanting to come out. The bubbles are all nice and pin head sized.

Slow decant, and then some faster down the middle pour produces a light caramel colored and very soapy head, that dissolves quite quickly. Body color is a dark indian red brown a little cloudy, kind of a nice red chestnut, very nice. Soapy collar left. Not that impressive but good enough, ok we're trying here this is a good effort.

This nose is real nice. A mix of small dark rich malt, but light brown spices, cinnamon, light LIGHT brown sugar, classic Belgian candi, orange tangerine and citrus soda, but mostly BIG RAISINS. This is looking promising. VERY promising.

Mild brett funk it seems at first, but never returns, proceeding with a large somewhat thick molasses aftertaste. Mild caramel in the front palate turns to sensing prickly carbonation. Chewy dark fruits of dates, currants, with a light bodied feel, but then a large tannic tongue smashing on the middle and raisin raisin RAISINS come out in abundance. Dancing prickly tongue with an almost watery feel and mild carbonation but no gaseous feeling. No sense of alcohol heat. Warming up quinine becomes more of a flavor to come.

Overall I was real scared to go back to Fantôme there, Belgian "Dark" specifically doesn't always jive for a fav style of mine, but this is something real special, very unique, never tasted anything quite like it. I am glad to see you and I Mr. Casper ghost staring at me so evilly are seeing eye to eye now. I worked real hard to make this relationship work you know. Glad to see your true colors and that I don't have to fight like this so much again, you're not exactly cheap where I live either. I would really love to try the light I guess Blonde version of this. We will meet again in earnest. Adieu.

smakawhat, Nov 17, 2011
Photo of Alieniloquium
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Amber body. Huge white head. Great retention. Good lacing.

Smell - Very fruity. Yeasty. Some caramel malt. Nothing terribly complex about it but nice.

Taste - Again it's very fruity. Berry fruit. Grain. Mild caramel. Yeasty finish. Not a ton of other flavors.

Mouthfeel - Over carbonated. Not sweet. Medium light body.

Overall - No complexity, but I enjoy it.

Alieniloquium, Jul 30, 2013
Photo of TurdFurgison
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, capped but not corked, bought 2 months ago at City Beverage for $15.39. I've been sorta saving it, and then last night I heard that Dany Prignon might be closing Fantome. Hopefully just propaganda, but it got Fantome in my head and here I am.

Nothing on the bottle to describe what went into this beer, just the standard Fantome "regular" saison descriptions on the label. Shooting blind, here goes. The beer is dark reddish copper, more red than other Fantome saisons, with some good sized floating yeasty chunks. The aroma is very one-of-a-kind, not the normal Fantome funk but rather kinda fruity. It smells a lot like some sweet-tart like candy I had as a kid, I can't quite place it, but the general adjectives would be chalky and fruity-sweet. A little bit of wood, cedar or redwood) and leather, but mainly sweet tart candy.

This tastes really sweet, sweet malts and esters with just a little tartness and chalk in the aftertaste. The overall result is flavorful and tasty, but not really as good as the regular Fantome, Printemps, Hiver, and Automne. I guess I just like my Fantomes more funky.

Medium body, no noticeable alcohol, goes down like liquid candy. Which it might in fact have, it seems sweeter than just malts alone would make it, probably there's candi sugar in this beer too. Very good, but I'm not too sad that this one is somewhat rare. As long as Dany stays open and makes the regular Fantome I'll be happy.

EDIT: I just got a beermail from Dany indicating that he has no plans to stop brewing. It was just a rumor, thank God.

TurdFurgison, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of drummermattie02
2.5/5  rDev -36.1%

drummermattie02, Apr 30, 2013
Photo of chippo33
4/5  rDev +2.3%

chippo33, Dec 21, 2012
Photo of mrfrancis
4.18/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a murky, ruddy amber with a thick off-white head.

S: Huge fruity aromas are present on the nose. There's definitely plenty of cider apple and spiced pear here. As the beer settles down a bit, I get scents of caramel, raisin, dates, figs, currants, blueberry, and elderberry. There's also a slight musty earthiness on the nose that keeps the fruit from being overpowering.

T: Surprisingly soft on the palate with blueberry, elderberry, currant, fig, date, raisin, caramel, oak, spiced pear, and cider apple flavors. Around mid-palate, must, lactic yeast, papaya, passion fruit, and pineapple flavors kick in and deliver, as an earlier reviewer so astutely put it, a tropical punch-like flavor. The finish is sweet and mildly yeasty with notes of blueberry, currant, date, and fig blending with oak, lactic yeast, and pineapple notes.

M: Medium-bodied, very dry, and acidic. Carbonation is gentler than one would expect. Alcohol is pretty pronounced.

O: This is an excellent saison. Like all of Brasserie Fantome's beers, it is unique, a beer that is hard to compare to any others of its style. Definitely worth seeking out and savoring.

mrfrancis, Jul 10, 2012
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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Dark) from Brasserie Fantôme
87 out of 100 based on 69 ratings.