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Fantôme Extra Sour Special Original Creation - Black Dark Extra - Brasserie Fantôme

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Fantôme Extra Sour Special Original Creation - Black Dark ExtraFantôme Extra Sour Special Original Creation - Black Dark Extra

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80
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67 Ratings
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Ratings: 67
Reviews: 13
rAvg: 3.52
pDev: 21.59%
Wants: 13
Gots: 17 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: stakem on 03-27-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 67 | Reviews: 13
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Photo of angrybabboon
3.71/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for sharing this beer

Consumed 1/15/14

I purchased this bottle in Vermont a few months ago. I'm guessing I should also thank Shaun Hill?

Appearance: Definitely dark, but I wouldn't call it "black dark" - really more of a medium brown, with some clarity around the edges - pours with a medium-sized head, fades to a nearly solid cap, leaves some nice streaks of lacing

Smell: Tons of Fantôme funky weirdness and some genuinely strange burnt aromas - tons of funk, with some wet, dirt basements - some roasty aromas - some burnt/smoky aromas, kind of smells like a burnt cardboard box that was abandoned in a flooded basement... in a good way - some yeasty esters, pepper, and dirt

Taste: About as bizarre as the smell, with some charm - funky, weird dirt/stone basement - very earthy - lots of Fantôme yeast weirdness, with some clove, spice, and straight up yeast - the burnt character here is pretty strange - smoky, burnt, kind of roasty - kind of tastes like the aroma of musty cigarettes (not ideal) - some tartness and sourness, but I wouldn't really label this as "extra sour"

Mouthfeel: Medium body, nicely carbonated, smooth, finishes nicely dry and clean dispite some the weird flavors

Overall: Smoking is bad, mmmkay

This is probably the most bizarre thing I've ever had from Fantôme. This kind of reminds me of the Fantôme/Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences, except it's even weirder. There's a lot of smoke. And funk. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Photo of DrinkSlurm
4.25/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Purchased this awesome 22oz flip top bottle from The Beer Temple in Chicago, IL for $25. Wouldn't fit in my checked luggage so I drank it.
The label is just awesome...it looks like it was printed on a home desktop printer. All the images are all skewed and fuzzy...plus the "million dollar" ghost on the back is great.
The top popped with little effort - which makes me thankful for not trying to check this.
Pours a deep brown with amber hue and a half finger of white head into the FFF teku glass. Lots of lacing - almost wine like as the white foam sticks to the glass.
Aromas of huge smokey, leather, chocolate, dried fruit...and ever so slight funk.
Taste is very similar...big leather flavor, with chocolate, red wine, and dried fruit flavor with classic Fantome funky finish...so good; its why I buy it.
Overall, its not like any beer ive ever had, which again is the normal with Fantome. So unique. I crave no other brew like a Fantome...
Thank you Danny. Another great one.

Photo of N17shelfside
4.41/5  rDev +25.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Review from memory, but the beer was a little thin, not a huge amount of carbonation. With the flip top closure I am not sure about getting an extra to let this one cellar. The "dark" side to this didn't really come through, more-so was a lot of horseblanket and super barnyard funk. For a beer with no age in the bottle this was surprising, reminded me a bit of a 30 year old burgundy.

Photo of cnbrown313
4.29/5  rDev +21.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I purchased a 750 ml swing top bottle at a bottle shop just south of the loop in Chicago - paid $28.99.

A - As I flip the cap the foam starts to slowly rise out of the bottle so I had to pour it into a wine glass fast. It pours a brownish / red mahogany color with a small beige head that fades quickly but leaves considerable lacing.

S - Lots of funk on the nose. It smells like an intense Flanders Red and really gets the saliva flowing too.

T - The best way I can really describe the taste is that it tastes like the blend of a Porter and a Flanders Red. Lots of chocolate malt and even some dark fruit flavors up front followed by a tart and biting finish that leaves your mouth dry and makes you want to keep sipping. The 10% abv is almost completely hidden in this beer as well, which might be its most impressive feat.

M - There was a decent amount of carbonation in my bottle, so I would have preferred a little less, but overall it was very nice. Medium bodied and what you would suspect from a Fantôme saison.

O - For me, I'd say this was absolutely worth purchasing once (maybe 2 bottles if you want to cellar one). It should be noted that Fantôme bottles vary a LOT from bottle to bottle. But I had a good experience with this one.

Photo of Rifugium
3.22/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Blind tasting.

Weird...but with Fantome, you just never know what you're going to see next. A flip-top bottle that opened with a huge *pop.* Murky pour, dark coffee brown, with a wispy off-white head that settled to a collar, and left a few strands of lacing on the glass. Roasty aroma, obvious hit of smoked meat up front (I'm thinking cherrywood-smoked malts), peat, tobacco ash, dry rub spices. Smokey taste, as expected from the nose, cured meat, tobacco ash, roasty dark malts, some dry cocoa flavor, peppery spice and hints of something vegetal, with a bit of fruity astringency. Medium body. Pretty awkward and messy overall...I wouldn't come near tackling a whole bottle by myself. But it was nice to give it a try.

Photo of sweemzander
3.25/5  rDev -7.7%

Overall, a rather interesting combination of elements that I am not used to seeing in a saison. The sourness is welcomed but in parallel with some bizarre smoky jerky-like flavors with wheat and biscuit. I will say it grew on me as it opened up but definitely one of the most bizarre saisons I have experienced

Photo of BEERchitect
4.14/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

The building up of complexity among the separate flavors of Fantome's Extra Sour "Noire" happens layer after layer. Even thought there's balance, intrigue and challenge around every corner- it seems like there are several different beers living in this glass.

Exploring further, the ale settles into the glass with a color that suggests Porter, however there's those streaming bubbles that illuminate through the cloud and suggest something of a sinister champagne. As its creamy head builds, it simply smolders on top the beer like dense espresso creme. Trailing with broken lacing, the beer looks as much of coffee as it does dark ale.

But lifting toward the now, a whole new bouquet arises with shocking fashion- burnt toast, sour grapes, smoldering embers, hints of cocoa and coffee, crab apples and peat all waft about the nose with wonderment and confusion. Its sheer complexity in aroma creates a ton of intrigue but draws the mind in several directions trying to process what's happneing.

To taste, the ale settles down a bit- its early taste is predicated upon a short-lived vinous sweetness of both red and white grapes while wafer-thin burnt malt taste offers the most tepid of balances. What builds upon comes in waves of sharp coffee and cocoa, the of vinous cabernet and white cider vinegar, cork must, cedar and citrus as the characterful ale stampedes across the middle. Finishing with high peppercorn, game and brine- the ale remains zesty, crisp and acidic in taste even late.

With its robust "noire" character, the ale never sucumbs to richer textures- intent to start dry, continue dry and finish dry- it is simply unwaivering. Its expressive carbonation pangs away at the palate and lifts the beer off the tongue with ease, ushering in an effortless airy closure of pepper, toast and lime.

Compex? ...or complicated? This is where the beer is somewhere between masterful and madman. Where I'm charmed about its utter complexity. I am also conflicted about its use of slightly acrid char and its acidic tartness. Is it "Fred and Ginger" or is it "Jekyll and Hyde"? I seem to alternate with each sip. And that dialogue keeps me returning to the glass with glee.

Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.82/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Big thanks to angrybabboon for procuring this for Christmas.

Appearance: Hazy reddish dark brown on the pour. Sits a little darker in the glass. Loose bubbly off-white/light tan head drops to a few wisps with a small loose collar. Minimal lacing. Moderate carbonation on the pour which is a bit shocking for Fantome.

Smell: A good bit of roasted malt. Chocolate and dark cocoa notes. Carries the typical Fantome damp must barnyard through the back. Some fresh cut grass and hay. Slightly tart with tobacco thrown in for good measure. Some ash and cigarette as well. A bit waxy with some vague dark fruit. It's all rather soft, but complex. A touch of dried flower petal. It's a damp fire pit.

Taste: Beef jerky, a touch of teriyaki, cigarette ash, chocolate, straight tobacco leaf, and cocoa. A ton of stuff going on. Meaty campfire. Slightly tart with an acetic vinegar push. Some tart cherry, plum, and dark berry. Slightly earthy. Some grass and hay. Damp and musty. Warming pushes up the damp ashes and tobacco leaf. A touch of roasted malt with some slight sweetness. Some cocoa as well.

Mouthfeel: Medium body and a touch creamy. Slightly dry. Drinks like a Fantome.

Overall: Doo wop dat riddle grim.

It's unique. Try it.

Photo of stakem
4.36/5  rDev +23.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

750ml brown swingtop bottle into a pair of matching fantome glasses. The brew appears a very dark brown color almost like cocoa with a rich 2 finger cap of yellowish tan head. The cap slowly fades leaving some webby lacing effect sticking to the glass. A swirl effortlessly revives a finger back to the surface that displays solid retention.

The aroma includes a pleasant amount of roastiness almost like what you would expect from a porter with notes of chocolate, earth and tobacco. There is an underlying fruity note similar to coriander mixed with lemon juice. Some crushed black pepper mixes with a hint of green bell peppers and a familiar note of classic fantome funk.

The taste is quite perplexing but in a good way. The roastiness is felt with a flavor of chocolate and earth that gets immediately countered by a flavor of lemony tartness. Some earthen notes of bell peppers, fresh cracked black pepper and funky to yeasty spice that is mildly dusty fade in and out into the aftertaste. Faintly across the backend as the brew warms up you get a slight note of tannic tea quality. When bigger sips are taken, more of the fruity tart character shows itself.

This is a medium bodied brew with a moderate amount of carbonation. It is strangely perplexing and actually very enjoyable. In true Fantome fashion, the alcohol is masterfully hidden, this never felt like a 10% brew at any point during the drinking experience. Fans of the original extra sour original creation will want to seek this out. It is not that 'extra sour' so to speak but it is quite funky and lemony lactic like the previous batch but with a strange porter twist.

Photo of laituegonflable
4.07/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark brown colour, glint of colour at the edge. Head is beige, pale, nice small bubbles but decent foamy crown. Lace is nice.

Smells strong and a bit turbid. Soapy but with nice fragrant edge, frangipani with some turmeric and pepper. Caramel undertones; not bad.

Taste is tart and tangy. Dark front with a touch of roast that descends into vinegary notes with a real jam conserve edge. Strawberry balsamic, some hints of chocolate, raisins and figs. Very interesting and a lovely balance between sweetness and tartness. Well padded by malt as well, although slight sharp edge shows through.

Idiosyncratic blend of flavours, but put together very artistically to produce something pretty special.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.61/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Cheers to @headlessclown for sharing this one. Drunk with him and @LaitueGonflable.

Pours a dirty dark brown colour, very hazed, but turning to a dark red when held to the light. Head is very fizzy, and forms a large crest that runs out of puff and leaves a slight foamy film. Lacing forms in large, indulgent streaks. Looks decent enough.

Nose is certainly dark, leavened with funky, bretty characters that leave it somewhere between liquorice and fairy floss. Some vegetative, herbal characters come through too, like fresh mint and crushed leaves. I don't get much in the way of actual acidity, but it's a nice melange even so.

Taste has the acidity a little more: leaving a metallic twang throughout. The toasty roast character comes through pleasantly, but with the coppery note it almost tastes meaty and bloody like a rare steak. Body is very light, meaning it leaves very little on the back palate. Some peppery and spritz is the only thing to provide some punctuation on the back.

Overall, it has some strange parts to it, some of which work, and some of which don't. I'm not quite sure it's as good as many of Fantôme's other offerings, but it's an interesting diversion.

Photo of MasterSki
3.32/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to Ryan for sharing this oddity. Served in a taster glass at Tom's place.

A - White foam settles to a thin cap, thick collar, and specks of lace. Murky dark brown body.

S - Odd, smokey, light meat and peat notes, some roasted malts, odd astringent tea note, peppery yeast, light cocoa, and some tobacco?

T - Weird tea astringency and cigarette butt flavors, with notes of roast, char, and smoke. A faint Saison yeast presence well in the background.

M - Smooth, medium body, pleasant carbonation, bready texture, with a mildly yeasty finish. No discernible alcohol presence, which is impressive. I had no idea that this was 10%; would have guessed 6-7% to be honest. By far the best thing about this beer.

D - Very strange and largely unsuccessful. One of the worst Fantôme offerings I've had in awhile. I was able to put down a few ounces, but no one went back for more of this one. If you really like tobacco you might enjoy this...maybe.

Photo of DovaliHops
4.18/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a really sweet swing-top bottle. Pours a very dark brown/black color with a large off-white head that goes down at a steady pace. Scent is smokey, with some peat aromas. More pleasant than off-putting IMO. Lots of peat, especially as it warms...some tart funk as well. Some barnyard and hay with tobacco as well. Taste is tart up front...not sour, but tart. Smokey flavor, but not nearly as much that was in the nose. More funky in the flavor with pleasant, tart, funky flavors. Some roasted malt and chocolate, with more tobacco. Very odd beer. Mouthfeel is spot-on...dry, yet creamy at the same time...weird. Perfect for this beer. Drinkability is high. Booze is well-hidden. Overall, I really enjoy this beer. This beer may not have turned out how the brewers wanted, but I think it works well. The tobacco can be a bit overwhelming, and this beer would shine without it, however...it's a solid beer nonetheless.

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Fantôme Extra Sour Special Original Creation - Black Dark Extra from Brasserie Fantôme
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