Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer - Brasserie Fantôme

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Ratings: 154
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 20.06%
Wants: 17
Gots: 34 | FT: 9
Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BEERchitect on 04-09-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Altenor
1.81/5  rDev -48.1%
look: 2 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I wasn't sure if to review this brew or not, but there is a mix of opinions around here. It seems as if most people that got the carbonated bottle got the true intention of the brewers while the ones that got the still ones were disappointed.

I was one of the ones that got no carbonation, so you know what I think about this brew. The bottle came with cap and cork which made me expect lots of carbonation but it was totally still.

Appearance was very weird. Pinkish pale with orange and totally flat. Never had seen a beer like this.

Smell was super funky and sour. I wasn't expecting it at all either, but it went with the appearance.

After all this I still went ahead and tasted it. Not good. Super vinegary and sour. Got some grain notes in there as well.

Mouthfeel inexistant. No carbonation at all. Just a whole mess.

Not a pleasant experience. Really was looking forward to trying this brew given the two great breweries that were involved. All I can say is that it reminded me of the people that tried WTF from Sam Adams

Photo of ehammond1
4.37/5  rDev +25.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Bottle (2013)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, baconsausage!

Slightly hazed, but bright orange. A glowing, beautiful color. Moderately thick near-white head. Nice retention and pretty, sticky lacing left down the glass. Very pretty saison. I had heard about some bottles having carbonation issues, but this one is spot-on perfect.

I knew this beer was going to be special the moment I first smelled it. There's a lovely combination of lemon and lime notes, along with dried hay and grass, and some earth and very mild funk. Nothing is overpowering or dominant, and it all comes together really nicely. There's a mild apple character as well, but this smells like a Sprite saison, if there ever was one.

The flavor follows a similar path as the aroma. Subtle, earthy, but mild yeast combines nicely with lemon and lime esters. Again, this resembles a Sprite, but in the form of a saison. Low bitterness and no alcohol presence, whatsoever. Some mild berry and apple notes as well complement the bright citrus notes. Incredibly drinkable, and a wonderful beer for the hotter summer months.

Medium bodied with high carbonation. Crisp. Refreshing.

Fantastic. I had major concerns going into this bottle, knowing that some were fantastic and others were dreadful, at least according to reports. Happy to report that this bottle was fantastic.

Photo of quirkzoo
4.07/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Thanks to Adam Jackson for this unsolicited box after seeing my ISO.

750ml bottle corked, capped and labeled, poured into 1000ml Erlenmeyer Flask. http://i.imgur.com/YHYntay.jpg

Pours an interesting ruddy clay color with tons of fluffy white head.

The smell is pure Fantome yeast. Very distinct dirty, musty, mushroomy smell up front that gives way to layer and layers of aroma. A slight bit of smokiness that turns into ham. Some definite bright acidity like a fresh lemon in there too.

Taste is a nicely refreshing. Good malt body with a touch of acidity to even it out, nice dry grain flavors that make it no problem to work my way through this entire 750ml bottle.

Mouthfeel is light without being watery. Full flavored but refreshing enough to keep me coming back for more.

At first when it was cold this beer leaned a bit too heavily towards the dirty mushroom flavors but as it warmed those toned down and were cut better by the acidity leading to a wonderful drinking saison. If you like Fantome yeast, you will like this beer.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.3/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Gushes instantly. Pours with an equal quantity of foam as beer. Great retention. Pretty orange body with a reddish hue.

Smell - And it's odd. Citrus. Caramel malts. Smokey aroma. Slight acidity.

Taste - And it's even more odd. Citrus tang. Flavor drops off in the middle and comes back with a smokey and kinda plasticky flavor.

Mouthfeel - Medium low body. High carbonation. Funny aftertaste.

Overall - A strange concoction. Not sure it deserves the hate it gets, but it is weird.

Photo of emerge077
3.84/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hazy orange, visible rising carb trails, about two fingers of foam on top. Minimal spotty lacing, some arcs eventually stick to the glass, surface has a creamy texture as the bubbles disperse.

Musty aroma, horse stall hay, mushrooms, orange peel, phenolic pepper. Bread dough. Odd but somehow appealing...

Grainy malts, tart dried citrus fruit, finishes dry and pretty clean. Not overly spicy. Pretty drinkable, a simple saison with some light pepper and dried orange peel happening. Rustic, slightly tart and a little funky. This is more like Fantome than the last bottle of Fantome Saison I've had.

Photo of angrybabboon
4.18/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Consumed 6/8/13

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for sharing this. I'm shocked that we ended up each acquiring a bottle of this unusual collaboration.

Appearance: Opens with a big pop (which stuck me as unusual, considering I was informed that this beer was virtually uncarbonated when I bought my bottle) - hazy, cloudy - kind of a creamsicle color, deep orange with some gold - creamy white head, keeps a wispy cap, leaves some nice streaks

Smell: Light fruits, some citrus, and an undercurrent of Fantome's typical musty basement aroma - berries, apples, and some ripe oranges - some interesting floral notes - earthy, musty, and damp-smelling funk, which appears to be a common denominator across everything that Fantome is involved in - some tart notes - something like smoked funk as well, which is weird

Taste: Very, very weird, maybe even weirder than the aroma - a nice variety of fruits - light tart berries, berry skin, apples, and some citrus - lightly sweet - loads of funky Fantome yeast - earthy, musty, damp, and dirty... yet slightly cleaner than the average Fantome (perhaps thanks to Hill Farmstead?) - some pepper - smoky, in a way that barely makes sense - it's simultaneously smoky and juicy... what?

Mouthfeel: Medium body, nicely crisp, nice carbonation, very smooth

Overall: Probably at least 4.25 Sciences

Maybe I just have an odd fascination with Fantome's musty, damp funk, but I'm surprised more people aren't being blown away by this beer. It's extremely, extremely weird. And unique. And tasty. I feel truly lucky that I will have at least one more chance to drink this beer.

Photo of deadonhisfeet
2.13/5  rDev -39%
look: 2.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.75

A collaboration beer from Fantome and Hill Farmstead. Poured from a bottle into a d'Achouffe tulip. It's got an interesting color - orange. I don't mean amber or mahogany, I mean this stuff is almost as orange as kool-aid. Unfortunately, even the most violent pour I could manage produced so little head that it hardly deserves to call itself a Saison. The nose is really nice. I get a fruity acidity that strikes a nice chord between the noses of a Saison and of an American IPA.

The flavor is well below average for the style and the complete lack of carbonation makes the mouthfeel rather squishy and disgusting. There is a fair amount of grainy sweetness and lactic acidity that makes up the flavor profile. It doesn't have much complexity at all - no peppery notes, no spice, no balancing flavors of bitterness or herbal notes. It's just a sweet and sour flavor reminiscent of stir-fry sauce that does not distinguish itself at all. It's very unappetizing and practically undrinkable.

I was really looking forward to trying this beer and it was an enormous disappointment. Moreover, I feel really stupid for being suckered into buying it because Hill Farmstead was involved (note to self - remember your 3rd rule of beer-drinking: no collaboration beers!). The less said the better. If you're reading this, avoid the temptation to try this stuff.

Photo of ppoitras
3.77/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle purchased as a single from Winooski Beverage, VT. Corked and capped.

Poured into an THB tulip, formed a 1/2" bright white head over the cloudy orangey golden brew. Head recedes gradually, with average to good lacing. Aroma is earthy muted citrus.

Taste slightly tart to start, muddy fruit in the middle, and closes dry with the underlying tart coming on again at the close. Mouthfeel is prickly yet soft over the tongue, and drinkability is pretty easy. I expected a bit more adventure knowing the talent whereof this comes, but a likable brew all in all.

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.81/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from the bottle a cloudy apricot color with one finger of fizzy off-white head. Lots of floaties in the bottle. No lacing left behind with this one.

Aroma was a bit musty with Belgian yeast, tropical fruit and floral notes, honey and white pepper.

The taste pretty much matched the aroma except for an added green apple and spearmint-like note upfront. A light tartness and spice to the finish.

Medium bodied and dry with a bright carbonation.

Not a bad Saison at all. I enjoyed it.

Photo of jlindros
3.96/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split with rudzud. Batch 2

Decent creamy smaller head decent lacing, light hazy mostly clear straw honey orange color.

Nose is pretty good, light sour funk, tart lemony, mild sweet malt, straw, lemongrass, little lemon candy and cereal, little peach like sour fruit, and some lacto funk way underneath that gets stronger as it warms. Little floral like almost dandelion.

Taste is not as good, but decent, a mild sweet candy malt starts, sweet increases and almost toasty caramel syrupy candi sugar. Then grassy notes, floral with little elder flower and hint of chamomile, and dandelion like again, mild horsehair funk and yeast, mild phenols, dry with touch of apricot like sour fruit. Mild gassy bitterness too, floral grassy flavors, just a bit earthy. Finish is dry and a bit bitter, mild sticky with light grassy floral flavor lingering and hint of funk.

Mouth is med to lighter bod, nice carb, bit crisp.

Overall not bad, not worth the price, bit pretty enjoyable unlike batch one supposedly.

Photo of Rifugium
3.47/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks again to Ray for the share!

I'm not sure exactly what Hill Farmstead contributed to this brew, but I got mostly Fantome in everything. I'm also curious as to the exact spice bill on this one.

Hazy coppery color, with a good-sized, foamy, white head that retained well and laced the glass. Grassy funk in the nose, pretty typical of a saison, toasted grains, peppery spice, and possibly juniper berries? The taste was largely herbal and spicy--not quite Saison Printemps spicy, but still pretty spicy. The wife suggested juniper, and I think that was a good call, and I also detected possible notes of rosemary, dandelion, and green tea. Leafy, grassy, some wet hay, dry earthy finish. Crisp mouthfeel, light-medium body. Not something I'd want a whole bottle of for myself, but it was definitely a good one for a sharing.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle opened on 5.1.13

A - Pours a cloudy pinkish-red with a few clear bubbles that are gone instantly.

S - Oak, tart berries, earthy.

T - Subtle tart fruit, then oaky with a smoke finish.

D - Very low carbonation and a watery thin body.

O - Light, earthy and typical Fantome oddness. Shaun needed to help this one out some more.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

With the rustic time-honored roots of Fantome Farmhouse Ales and the innovation of Hill Farmstead, these brewers of high quality put their heads together for a collaborative ale like no other!

The ale erupts with a slow separation between a tawny, redish brown beer underneath and a creamy arid froth above. Fairly well saturated in its hue, the slight visual density is aided by significant yeast haze. The rocky head sprinkles with yeast sediment as is shows strong persistence and clumped lace on the glass. The ale simply gleams of Belgian quality.

High spice aromas tingle the nose as they approach distinctive scents of fresh cracked black pepper, light smoke and rubber notes. A dusting of old attic-like wood, horse hair, and dried citrus peels introduce complex earthen notes. Underlying it all is the tart scent of dry fruit, berry juice, and wine must. But even with pronounced fruit notes this is a very spicy scent.

Just as dry in taste, the beer zips to the tongue with cracked peppercorn (both black and white), sharp white wine tartness, and a plethora of wood spices. Dry fruit juice, citrus pith, and wine must bleed into a light apple sulfur taste that's backed with tart blackcurrant, blackberry, plumb and prune. But the beer's return to spice in the finish continues to deliver exotic earth notes including cumin and aniseed.

Its supreme dusty texture and racy carbonation pulls the beer from the tongue and glides it toward a quick, fast-fleeting finish. It's as if the beer is best explored in aftertaste because of its high drinkability and ease on the palate, throat, and stomach. Only hints of dry fruit peak through the prickle of spice, alcohol, and almost capsasin character.

It's an extremely complex, extremely dry, and extremely spicy Saison that doesn't entirely ignore fruit and earth influences. This beer exhibits what's best about Farmhouse Ales done right and refusing to ignore the rustic taste of days gone by. It's a superb ale of any measure.

Photo of Gosox8787
3.36/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: Capped and corked 750 mL bottle. Chilled since purchase and poured into some Hill Farmstead stemware.

Appearance: Darker yellow to medium orange in color. Not much in the way of carbonation, but there are some light fizzy bubbles on the first pour.

Aroma: Huge musty character upfront. Lots of barnyard funk, definitely tastes a lot like Fantome yeast. Some savory character from the peppercorn. Some smokiness as well. Really odd combination.

Taste: The must and funk character really hits hard upfront. After the inital funk character, there is some light citrus and green apple. Slightly tart. The tartness is offset by a touch of peppercorn and a really strong smokiness. Colder, the flavors really don't come together at all but it gets nicer it warms.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied with some really light carbonation. Definitely undercarbonated for the style, but it doesn't hurt it much in my opinion.

Overall, this is not my favorite beer from either brewery. The musty character really is overpowering and the combination of that, the peppercorns, and the smoke creates an odd profile. Really improves as it warms, but still a dissappointment.

Photo of cosmicevan
2.81/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

reviewed from notes a few days ago. pretty sure this is the bad batch of this brew since this was...well, pretty bad. poured a murky orange with a big orange/pink head. nose is spicy saison. taste is a drinkableish smoky bandaide. fizzy carbonation...basically it is a mess. i could force it down, but why bother? i was the last one at the tasting to give up on it, but it did eventually slide down the drain. sorry sink.

Photo of scottfrie
2.37/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2

750ml bottle into tulip.

A: No pop to the cork; bad sign. This beers pours a clear apricot color with no head. Well, there's a few soapy bubbles from my rough pour, but overall this doesn't sit well in the glass.
S: Smells of earthy and musty funk with a hints of sticky cheese, cooked vegetables, apple cider vinegar and horse shit. Band-aid pokes through as well.
T: Follows the nose. Flavors of vegetables, tart funky bugs and mild wheat. Band-aid, dirty mess of spices , sour mash, earth and wood. Aftertaste has a touch of fruit to it.
M: Flat as water. Medium body, light tartness.
O: A mess of a beer. I tried to power through a glass, but didn't even get half way. This is the second expensive Fantome drain-pour I've had recently.

Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.84/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Hazy peach gold. Head is bright-white with a tight bubble structure. Drops to a tiny head and slightly larger collar. Moderate carbonation on the pour.

Smell: Typical Fantome yeasty floral funk thing. Floral with a ton of fruitiness. Peach, apple skin and flesh. Yeast, some hay, damp and musty. Nice powdery yeast. Some light smoky elements. A bit more soft complexity than Fantome alone. Not really seeing much HF influence here. Light spiciness.

Taste: Lemon zest, a hint of lemonade. Soft powdery yeast and spice. Loaded with fruit and esters. Passion fruit, vague melon, and some peach. A bit of skunk and some serious grass. Lemon flesh. Sulfur. A very faint kind of smoky thing. Really odd. Almost lager yeast. Slightly sweet pale malts. Warming pushes the lemon and floral elements way up. Maybe some wheat.

Mouthfeel: A mediumish carbonation (well above what I expected from the general opinion). Light to medium body. A touch dry.

Overall: Thomas Dolby approves.

A solid hybrid of breweries. Follows closer to the Fantome line of things, but given the bottling location, it makes sense. Could have used a bit more polishing from Hill Farmstead, but it's solid.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
2.88/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Bottle I brought to share at Oneinchaway's tasting.

Pours a murky light reddish-orange that pours with no head. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, hay, chalk, yeast, and lots of funky aromas. Taste is much the same with sour and smoke flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of yeast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a below average beer with some odd aromas and flavors that are pretty disappointing coming from both brewers.

Photo of tbeckett
3.6/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Split this bottle with a friend at Reservoir in Waterbury. From notes.

A - Poured a quite lovely dark orange and cloudy. One finger of white fizzy head left very little lace and a film of retention. Darker and fully cloudy with yeast. No carbonation visible.

S - Tart grapes, smoke, grape skin, must.

T - Smoke, tartness, nice grape skin, some sweetness. Subtle flavours. Not much to elaborate on. Fruitiness there too.

M - Strong carbonation, medium body, slightly tart and smokey finish.

O/D - Neat beer. Smokiness was something I could do without probably, but the flavours were subtle, yet interesting.

Photo of Skrip
4.32/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

750ml bottle poured into a Pemi Cabin wine glass.

A~ hazy copper, orange. very still with no head.

S~ tart up front, followed by peppery yeasty Belgium goodness!

T~ ohhh tangy! kind of like a oude brown mixed with a flanders red. all that plus the obvious peppercorns and Belgium yeast. more tart then most "regular" Fantome's.

M~ not carbonated at all lol still very delicious, drinks a lot like a mead and theres nothing wrong with that. i'm gonna try with another bottle to add a fizz drop and rebottle it, we'll see how that goes.

O~ i think this would be a 5 if it was properly carbonated. i'll update this review with the results of the fizz drop.

Photo of rudzud
3.98/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split with JLindros. This is batch 2, supposedly drinkable.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a nice crystal clear golden honey hue with a thin one finger head that leaves light lacing and a thin blanket.

S - Aromas of light barnyard, soft funk, lemongrass, floral, dandelion greens not vegetative though. Quite appealing.

T - Taste is more lemongrass and floral almost elderflower. Light peppers, faint horseblanket, potpourri, light funk, grassy fields.

M - Mouthfeel is nicely carbonated, very drinkable, clean.

O - Overall this beer, or at least this batch, is much better than the rAvg suggests. Glad to try it.

Photo of corby112
2.14/5  rDev -38.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.75

Batch 1

Pours a cloudy, bright golden orange color with apricot hues.  Completely still and even a very aggressive pour yields only the slightest bubbles that quickly fade into a vanishing thin ring.  No lace.  

Herbal, phenolic aroma with earthy flowers and a strong musty funky/wild yeast presence.  Slightly soily and earthy with damp, rotted wood, wild mushroom and decaying flower petals along with light and citrus fruit esters.  Subtle peppery spice as well.  Weird but I sort of find it oddly appealing.  

Light bodied and almost flat with faint carbonation and a very unpleasant dirty, phenolic flavor dominating the palate.  Rubber band and band aid notes are prominent along with subtle spice, dead/dirty flowers and bong water along with bread, green apple and banana.  Dry and somewhat chalky in the finish with a strong dirt/phenolic, rotten yeast presence killing off most of the flavor.   Very harsh and tough to drink.  A complete mess of a beer to be brutally honest.

Photo of Axnjxn
3.54/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle - into a teku glass

mint...sage smell and taste. lots of sage on the palate and not much else...a tad disappointing honestly. not bad but just not what i expect from a world class brewer collab.

overall decent not really recommended though.

Photo of facundoCNB
3.99/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

a hazy light orange pour with 2 fingers of fluffy white head, great retention.. not much lacing. smells of spicy belgian yeast, pepper, honey, wheat. the flavor is on par with the aroma with the exception of coriander and orange peel being introduced. a nice refreshing crisp light ale with moderate carbonation. nothing too special, but a standard saison nailed to the T. seriously, perfectly executed for the style. not too sweet, not too spicy, perfect carbonation, perfect for hot weather. it's so basic that it's great.. sometimes the less complex a beer is, the better.

Photo of Huhzubendah
3/5  rDev -14%

The beer appears golden with a thic white head. Aromas of spice, malt, oddities, well water, funk, earth. The beer definitely seems more Fantôme than Hill Farmstead. Weord, earthy, herbal. Flavors do not cooperate well. A jumbled mess of odd spices. Cracked black pepper with some fruity notes. I am not a fan of this one.

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Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer from Brasserie Fantôme
80 out of 100 based on 154 ratings.