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Ol' Red Cease And Desist - Erie Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
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206 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 206
Reviews: 114
rAvg: 3.46
pDev: 17.34%
Wants: 8
Gots: 9 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Erie Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy |  10.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: jhicks12 on 11-20-2007)
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.05/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid."

--Friedrich Nietzsche

Dusky russet red with orange peel colored highlights. A thick chunk of golden brown sugar colored foam appeared on the pour. The head has a whipped creamy texture and is doing a fine job laying down tattered sheets of lace. About half of it sticks in the end.

The nose is primarily caramel malty... and that's pretty much the extent of things. There's also a mineral-like quality that stops just short of metallic. Nor does it smell like this will be very malty sweet beer. Minimal appreciable alcohol is a minor plus.

Erie Ol' Red Cease & Desist (gotta use the ampersand) is not a stellar example of the style. The aroma does not lie. The beer is more bitter than sweet, which should never happen in a wee heavy. It's also still considerably metallic, like licking stainless steel. Here's hoping things mellow out once it gains a few degrees.

The vague outlines of a decent Scotch ale are there. Steely caramel dominates, followed by bitter tea leaves, a hint of orange peel, wood resin and a small splash of grain alcohol. It would be a craft beer crime if Pennsylvanians got the idea that this is how wee heavies are supposed to taste.

Warming softens things a little, but not enough. The mouthfeel falls in line with all the rest. It's too skimpy and the carbonation doesn't distinguish itself at all. More malt and more expertly buried bubbles would have helped.

This offering used to be called Red Ryder Big Beer. Apparently, those who hold the rights to the movie 'A Christmas Story' told Erie to cease and desist, since Red Ryder is the brand name of the air rifle that Ralphie wants so badly. Even if it isn't true, it's still an interesting story. I wish the same could be said of Ol' Red.

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2009 14:24:09 | More by BuckeyeNation
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brentk56

North Carolina

3.39/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a rocky head that attempts to leave a few shards of lace

Smell: The aroma combines the appropriate level of malt but instead of the hoped for peaty aspect, there is a fruity quality that seems a bit odd for the style; more like a Barleywine

Taste: Open auspiciously, with a nice caramel malty flavor but it bever really develops to show any complexity

Mouthfeel: Medium to heavy body with moderate to low carbonation; some heat on the finish; should have a fuller body

Drinkability: Not bad, but has a number of flaws that really knock this down to the lower end of the rating scale

Thanks, kbuzz, for the chance to re-visit

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2008 22:19:07 | More by brentk56
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.03/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It seems that Erie Brewing Co. does a great job of taking the world's classic beer styles and simplifying them into just beer, or just non-descript American ales. They taste fine but are void of the true authentic flavors of those styles because its easier to brew convenient beers with convenient ingredients and convenient techniques. Truly authentic examples takes care that's just not displayed here. This Wee Heavy speaks to much the same.

Ol Red Cease and Desist becomes a malt-forward, caramel sweet ale but not without the mild hop bitterness of pine and earth. Slight bread crust flavors blend into toffee richness but without the supportive complexities of toast, developed malt taste, any slight grapey esters or smoke variety that often makes Scottish Ales both distinctive and gentlemanly. Somewhat distracting buttery notes and ill placed bruised apple taste distracts from the otherwise one-dimensional caramel sweetness. A long-lasting sugary sweetness surplant the malty-dry finish as the predominant lingering memory in aftertaste.

This Wee Heavy is a fine beer, but its no more a Strong Scottish Ale as it is an ambiguous American Strong Ale, Barleywine, Imperial Red... or pick another strong beer. Tasty for a session perhaps but the beer just doesn't know what it is.

Serving type: on-tap

12-14-2011 16:06:28 | More by BEERchitect
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kylehay2004

Florida

3.08/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: no head really on a amber with copper hues clear body.

S: caramel, wood, toffee, soy, canned corn and peat malts.

T: lots of canned corn in this flavor. caramel, wood and peat are minor players. Its like drinking the corn juice out of a can of corn. Brown sugar and candied fruits late in the finish. The alcohol is extremely well hidden though.

M: medium body and moderate carbonation. nicely smooth.

Overall: I just couldn't get over the canned corn aroma and flavor. It distracted me and effected this ones drinkability. Maybe mine was infected?

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2012 23:26:45 | More by kylehay2004
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oberon

North Carolina

3.38/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After being out in the insanely windy and blustery weather of wny today I was looking forward to having a big warming malty brew this let me a little dissaponited.Poured into a standard pint glass a rich deep amber with a touch of tawny hue a nice tight formed one finger slight off white head atop,lighter aromas than expected for such a big beer some molasses and rown sugar with a touch ogf gummy fruitiness.I was really suprised at how basic the flavors were note very much malt complexity,starting out uneventful with a little dryer woodiness finishing with some molasses and brown sugar sweetness just as simple as that.As the beer warmed the alcohol showed itself more but didnt really lend anything to the beer except for maybe bringing the drinkability factor down a little.Eh not terrible just basic in my mind.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2007 00:07:17 | More by oberon
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

4.2/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This brew poured out as a really pretty looking red color with a creamy looking orangey head on it. The lacing was nice along the glass. The smell of the beer was sweet and malty, very pleasing aroma on this beer. The smell transferred perfectly to the taste where the peated malts meet with some caramel and brown sugar. The taste I found to be very very nice. The mouthfeel was smooth and kind of creamy, a little bit of carbonation working well on this beer. Overall this brew was worth trying on just about all levels in my opinion. I'm very surprised this doesn't have better reviews on here.

Serving type: on-tap

06-30-2011 03:28:44 | More by Knapp85
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Jason

Massachusetts

2.7/5  rDev -22%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

No modest froth here, it comes right to the top of the glass. Ok retention and the clarity is bright. Fruity aroma with a dried biscuit dusting in the nose. Creamy smooth mouth feel, full bodied. Hit of harsh solvent alcohol after each sip, caramel and bready maltiness is there but clouded by the hot alcohol. Hops are minimal. Dry finish with more lingering alcohol heat.

I'm not even sure if age will do this beer any good. Its far from being horrible but it is a chore to sip, it has headache written all over it. A bit too attenuated, hot and fruity for the style.

Serving type: bottle

01-12-2008 04:27:31 | More by Jason
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WVbeergeek

West Virginia

3.7/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served last night off the cask at Piper's Pub, talk about excellent cellaring. These guys are pouring proper pints. Hug foaming khaki head completed with a smooth creamy texture, body is deep ruby garnett semi clouded. Smells tart with some underlying fruit and raisins. Very malty no real hop presence maybe just a little bit of earthiness. Flavor was okay a bit hot with alchol excessively sweet with malt flowing from every angle. Tart grape and raisins flood the palate as well. More earthy hops blended well. Mouthfeel is creamy silky smooth low well done carbonation, the mouthfeel is money. Drinkability overall is okay but the twang and loads of malt didn't completely agree with me, this is the same brew that went through some name changes but it's been around for quite sometime.

Serving type: cask

01-04-2009 15:53:01 | More by WVbeergeek
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jlindros

Massachusetts

3.45/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

THanks to dfclav for this one.

Pours a light creamy head that barely covers, over semi clear reddish rosy colored beer.

Nose has lots of reddish malts, light booze, some brown sugar and molasses, light syrupy aroma, toffee, and just a hint of earthy hops.

Taste slightly creamy, more reddish malts, some molasses, light earthy hops, a bit boozy, syrupy, toffee, caramel, little bit of herbal hops, but the whole thing just feels light likeit's missing some malt character. Finishes still sweet, lingering syrupy flavors, toasty malts, and little boozy tingle.

Mouth is medium bodied but a light feeling, with lower carbonation and some booze warmth and tingly.

Overall meh, decent beer, but missing something, a little boozy too.

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2011 21:19:21 | More by jlindros
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WesWes

New York

3.63/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark amber/red color with a thick frothy offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a mild burnt toffee scent along with a light roasted character. The alcohol is barely noticeable. The taste is decent as well. It has a tastey caramel malt flavor with a light roasted/smokey feel. The alcohol presence is there, but well hidden. It goes down extremely smooth and finishes sweet with a dry edge. It seems a little thin for a Wee Heavy. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is an easy drinking "big" beer. It's full flavored with an alcohol kick that's not too noticeable.

Serving type: bottle

01-07-2009 17:56:23 | More by WesWes
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tempest

Pennsylvania

3.58/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured clear red with a tall light tan head. There's a strong bready toast and crust aroma with a hint of toffee that's a little cleaner than most in the style. The flavor falls a little flat for such a strong beer. There's a earthy spice and creamy candy with the aroma's dark bread grain notes. I suppose it is smooth and easy to drink, but the character just seems muted given the strength.

Serving type: bottle

01-20-2011 06:14:11 | More by tempest
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.1/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

( Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a deep dense walnut brown body with red highlights at the base of the glass. There is a thick sticky tan head of foam and a sea of microbubbles gliding to the surface.

S- The smell of dry dark caramel malt with biscuit malt notes has a light graham note in the finish.

T- This beer has a dry dark toasted malt flavor with a light cream taste to it. There is a coffee malt note in the background and a good light roast bitterness to the finish. As the beer warms there is a cidery note in the finish with a hint of hops aswell.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with no alcohol heat until the beer is pretty warm and a even then the alcohol is pretty mellow.

D- This beer has a nice full malt flavor that is well blended and smooth with a supporting bitterness that grows as it warms. The cidery quality added a bit of interest to the finish and was not off putting.

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2009 16:46:04 | More by rhoadsrage
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Zorro

California

3.78/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled through ClockworkOrange and CA - PA BIF.

Clear dark red to reddish brown colored beer with a small tan head that doesn't last.

Smell is sweet and malty with a sour tang of rye and peat smoke malt and a faint melon aroma. Fainter still smoke and medicine aroma.

The taste starts out malt and smoke with a reasonably strong woody flavor. Definite rye flavor here with a little astringency. Light raisins and wheat bran flavor. Not a sweet beer despite all the malt, reminds me more than a little of rye whiskey.

Mouthfeel is good.

Not bad at all. This isn't the best of the style but it is certainly far from bad. Good flavor and mouthfeel help this overcome the looks and smell to make this a better than average Wee Heavy. A beer that is certainly worth drinking at the brewery and worth trading for.

Serving type: bottle

04-19-2008 22:29:30 | More by Zorro
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ejimhof

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -13.3%

04-09-2012 02:15:10 | More by ejimhof
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

3.9/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2007 Bottle.

Pours a rich brown in color with a small white head and some lace. Aroma of cherries, malt and alcohol. Flavor is good, malt, brown sugar, vanilla, cherry. The staggering alcohol is deceptively well hidden. Some years have done a good job mellowing this one out. Smooth and full bodied, this makes for a good sipper.

Serving type: bottle

09-02-2010 14:28:38 | More by Stinkypuss
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rab53

Washington

3.25/5  rDev -6.1%

12-01-2011 05:40:54 | More by rab53
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.55/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Dirty copper-penny coloring is topped off by a sandstone colored head that was frothy and whipped, thin in statue, and quick to dissipate. Fairly strong effervesce lies within with hardly any lace to speak of adoring the glass. Not a lot to go on from a visual sense.

S: The nose brought forth some dried caramel grains, with a laid back strength. Slight hints of ripe fruit skins adds a bit of light fruitiness to the mixture. Reserved in character, especially the alcohol portion which is listed at 10.1% which is hardly detectable.

T: The flavor was rich sweet caramel grains and dried toffee. Light dryness with a bit of dried fruitiness. Ok flavor, not my ideal example. Was expecting some peat or perhaps some light smoky character. The alcohol was hardly detectable as well for its strength.

M: malty, with a quite sense of carbonation. A bit of creamy nature and lush feel when swirled and settled on the tongue finishing off with a nice grain dryness.

D: Drinkability was forgiving enough. Still surprised that this was 10.1% which drank more like a 7% at best. Nice malty character, though not to expansive in the taste spectrum. Have to be careful you don't indulge in more then you should here, the alcohol is very well hidden.

Serving type: bottle

02-21-2011 18:34:29 | More by beerthulhu
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Latarnik

New Jersey

3.25/5  rDev -6.1%

05-26-2014 21:39:37 | More by Latarnik
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chinchill

South Carolina

3.41/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

undated12 oz bottle served in a Piraat snifter.

Appearance – Pours a mahogany color with a small and short-lived off-white head. The head left only a sparse spots of lacing.

Smell – Lightly sweet and moderately boozy. Some notes of baked bread and fruits, with a touch of peat smoke.

Taste – Starts quite sweet with caramel, caramelized sugar, and some breadiness. Some smoke works into the taste, becoming peaty in the finish. A boozy, beer liqueur character.

Mouthfeel – Medium+ body; low carbonation; moderate alcohol harshness and warmth.

Overall – More boozy then desirable, even for 10% ABV. Relatively fruity as if a somewhat Belgian version of the style.

Serving type: bottle

07-14-2013 21:27:42 | More by chinchill
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dmorgan310

Panama

3.25/5  rDev -6.1%

03-07-2014 01:12:37 | More by dmorgan310
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ccrida

Oregon

3.5/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into my Meantime snifter, Ol' Red Cease And Desist is a clear amber with a small khaki head.

Smell is super fruity, like candy, chewed up skittles, more of a raisin like Special B malt as it warms.

Taste is also very sweet and fruity. While they did a good job of resisting smoked malts, historically speaking, there would be little to no esters - this is basically an English barleywine. And in that regard it's not so bad, on the dry, thin side maybe. Not as hot as I feared, I've cellared it for 3-4 months, maybe that helped.

Mouthfeel is sticky, but light bodied and super dry.

Drinkability is ok, pretty simple, strong for sure, but not really fusely or anything. I've got one more that I'll sit on for probably 2 years and see what happens...

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2009 03:38:09 | More by ccrida
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DrDemento456

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark ruby brown with an inch of head that clears rather quickly with just a light lace ring.

S - Doesn't really smell powerful. Very mild caramel sweetness and a bit of roasted malt.

T - Wow the is way thinner than expected. The malt is very thin yet sweet caramel and the ABV is well concealed in fact the most I ever seen a beer of this magnitude which is "Erie" pun intended. Could use more sweetness though...

M - Very medium bodied. If I didn't have the bottle I would swear it was 6-7 percent at the most.

D - Well I don't know. I could use more flavor and this beer seems to be more of a "get drunk" kind of beer since it has a quickly thinning flavor and hardly detectable ABV. I may have it again.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2010 02:45:55 | More by DrDemento456
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OWSLEY069

Pennsylvania

3.43/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clean orange-ish to amber color with an off white head. In the aroma, woody, caramel, and a small alcohol presence.. In the taste, woody, with notes of caramel, it starts with big alcohol but fades quickly. A small alcohol bite but mainly smooth with a medium to bigger bodied mouthfeel, with a semi dry woody and alcohol like aftertaste. A nice woody presence and nice alcohol that fades out.

Serving type: on-tap

02-06-2012 19:36:23 | More by OWSLEY069
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Duff27

Illinois

3.5/5  rDev +1.2%

01-05-2013 22:54:35 | More by Duff27
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cjgator3

Florida

3.5/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle

A- Pours a dark reddish copper color with an off-white head with decent lacing and retention.

S- The aroma is a lot of toasted and biscuity malt, caramel, and dark ripe fruits.

T- The taste starts out sweet and malty with so
E caramel flavors. The finish has some fruitiness and a lingering sweetness with some warmth from the alcohol.

M- The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is a decent beer that is worth a try. 

Serving type: bottle

03-03-2011 05:21:34 | More by cjgator3
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Ol' Red Cease And Desist from Erie Brewing Co.
79 out of 100 based on 206 ratings.