Whole Hog Raspberry Saison - Stevens Point Brewery

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Ratings: 75
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.22
pDev: 19.88%
Wants: 2
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  7.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: cokes on 07-28-2010

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Ratings: 75 | Reviews: 33
Photo of emerge077
3.55/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hazy, glowing orange in the tulip glass. An ample cushion of creamy foam, it fades to a more compact level fairly quickly. Soapy foam leaves residual arcs of lace inside the glass. Halfway through, the head breaks apart into tiny bits.

First whiff throws off some banana, pear, and faint berry. Almost more Hefeweizen than Saison, but that's beside the point. It smells good.

The body is creamy and smooth, maybe a bit too slick, but soft like a Hefe too. The creaminess is the first thing I notice, then maltiness in the middle with an indistinct berry flavor to it. The fruit element comes off a bit syrupy, which is a little off putting. It has a vague tartness and an odd herbal/bubblegum aftertaste at times that leaves me shaking my head.

The taste needs tweaking, it's a little jarring as it is. The smooth body was an asset that helped the drinkability, but ultimately flavor is what we're after here.

Photo of mactrail
2.33/5  rDev -27.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Wierd, artificial tasting concoction.

Nice head and appearance. Lots of aroma, just not sure what it is. Beery flavor overwhelmed by an odd unnatural flavor like marischino cherry. Bitter but without any actual hop flavor I can identify. Aftertaste burns with that same bitterness and a strong peculiar taste reminiscent of rose water. To add to the strange experience, my teeth and mouth feel coated with something like glycerine.

Maybe there is a hint of Belgian yeast here, but it's a total mess. Fortunately I can dump the rest of it and open something else to kill the taste.

Photo of mdfb79
3.97/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On a side note I gave my girlfriend some of the Bell's Cherry Stout from #8 and she loved it.

Powering onto Blind Beer #9. Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into my Dogfish Head snifter.

a - Pours a murky orange-yellow color with one inch of white head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Smells of candy, sweet fruit, bananas, floral hops, spices, fruity malts, earthy notes. Smells pretty good, though no real idea what this one is. Reminds me of maybe a very sweet tripel?

t - Tastes of sweet fruit, fruity malts, floral hops and earthy amlts, yeast, spices, bananas, and light alcohol. Again, very nice but itneresting; still not sure what it is.

m - Medium body and low to moderate carbonation. Smooth and very easy to drink.

o - Overall not really sure what this one is. Reminds me of a sweet tripel maybe? Either way I enjoyed this one and it is definitely the most interesting beer I've had in this BIF so far.

And the beer is...Whole Hog Raspberry Saison. I was way off on this one, though after the fact I can see some light raspberry juice and saison like notes. Looks like I liked this one more than most people, and my girlfriend enjoyed it too. Thanks for another interesting beer Kyle!

Photo of chinchill
3.3/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.25

Undated 12 oz bottle poured into a Belgian snifter 7.2% ABV.

Pours slightly hazy, orange-amber with a hint of pink. It is briefly topped with a bone-colored; this soons dies away but some lacing still occurs. A coat of sediment is left on the bottom of the bottle.

This raspberry saison has a relatively refreshing, complex and fruity nose. There are notes of orange peel, pepper, raspberries and other red berries, caramel, and hops.

T: The taste starts quite sweet but this is partly balanced by some tartness and hop bitterness. Raspberries are evident in the flavor too, but this is also more yeasty and herbal than the aroma. Lightly spicy and moderately fruity.

M: Medium-light bodied, this saison has a bit too much astringent harshness.

O: moderately sweet, barely funky and quite fruity, this is a very drinkable and refreshing saison, but one that would probably not fair well with larger quantities than a single bottle or pint.

Photo of mothman
1.11/5  rDev -65.5%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Bottle at the bar poured into a pint shaped glass.

Pours a finger of white bead. Fades down fast. Color is a dark slightly hazed autumn gold. Very dark for a saison.

Aroma/Taste (combining these because I couldn't stomach much of this beer): Raspberry smirnoff/ smirnoff ice malt beverage flavors. Maybe some bacardi razz. Very little saison flavors. A bit of spice and some malt, but this stuff is awful. It is more like drinking a mixed drink than a beer... a terrible mixed drink at that.

Mouthfeel: Boozy and hot. Medium bodied with a fine amount of carbonation. Ends with an aftertaste of taking similar to taking a shot.

Overall, this was one of the worst beers I have ever tasted in my life. I would rather drink a bmc product. This beer was just awful.

Photo of weeare138
3.82/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Appears a transparent light orange toned gold with a small white cap. Small co2 bubbles slowly rise to the top. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of raspberry, cream, vanilla, grain, and clover honey.
Taste is of the aromas with a sweet, flavorful punch that lends itself to earthy, goaty, mushroom flavors atop a sweet raspberry custard.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, sweet, chewy, and semi-dry. This one actually grew on me as I drank it. I wasn't expecting much but I was pleasantly surprised with how different it was. I wouldn't call this a "saison" per se but it is a tasty brew.

Photo of Duff27
2.78/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A- Inch white head on top of a mid to darker golden saison. Nice lacing and decent head retention.

S- Fruity although I can't pick out raspberries specifically.

T- Overly sweet with raspberries. Some spices. A little booze.

M- Not a lot of carbonation, kind of syrupy actually.

D/O- Pretty one dimensional in the taste. I feel if it would have been carbonated more it would have helped a lot. This would be a good one to split...the second half of my tulip was hard to drink.

Photo of avalon07
3.04/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a brown-yellow color and a dirty, cloudy consistency. There was a small amount of foamy head that quickly dissipated. Not much lacing.

S: The raspberry is evident in the aroma, but not much else. A little bit of the saison funk, but not much.

T: Tasted of malt, the advertised raspberries, some yeast, and a little but of the aforementioned saison funk. There's simply not that much going on here. It's a thin brew that lets the fruit dominate its flavor.

M: A decent amount of carbonation with a dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: Kind of a weak effort here. It seems more like a failed experiment than anything else.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.55/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12 oz twist-off bottle poured into a Bruery tulip.
7.2% ABV, 13925F on the neck.

A - A shallow haze forms over the goldenrod beer which is briefly topped with an effervescent white head. Fingers of lace reach up the glass but curl back to the ring of roam that's left on the top of the beer.

S - Stevens Point Whole Hog Raspberry Saison opens with a nice nose of bright yeast esters; spice abounds with layers of clay, white pepper, lemongrass, and bitter orange peel. Malt sweetness is aplenty, though vaguely reminiscent of malt extract, with sweet pilsner, caramel, and pale graininess creating a backbone. It's odd that through the rest of the nose, raspberry seems subdued, almost forgotten about with light tart fruit notes blowing a kiss on the finish.

T - Abundant sweetness washes over the tongue casting aside much of the aroma's nuances for a simple, up front malt character. Pilsner malt and caramel mix with what seems like plenty of Belgian blonde candi sugar. Light spice follows with, again, a kiss of sweet raspberry flavor on the back end.

M - Medium-full bodied, this saison has light carbonation for the style which doesn't help the fact it's already a beefy-feeling beer. Sweetness is big but not quite cloying and mildly balanced by dry spice and tart fruit notes for a moderately drinkable saison for the heft it hides.

O - The aroma of Stevens Point Whole Hog Raspberry Saison offers a nice look into the depth of character a saison can have but missed the mark regarding the aroma's transition to flavor which is heavily malty and sweet. To even things out, this beer could use a little more fresh raspberry and hop balance though lowering the malt bill to allow more yeast to shine through might be the acceptable approach. Flavorful nonetheless.

Photo of barczar
3.1/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Slightly hazy copper with pink highlights and a frothy cream head that dissipates fairly quickly, leaving sticky lacing.

Sweet bubblegum and raspberry form the initial aroma. Floral notes and a hint of yeast funk emerge.

Flavor reveals more depth of raspberry, slightly sweet, but becoming dry, somewhat medicinal, and a touch peppery at the finish. Malt sweetness is somewhat overwhelming.

Body is moderate, with fairly high carbonation, and significant alcohol warmth.

A bit too sweet and underattenuated, and the medicinal character is offputting. Good initial raspberry flavor, but a little hot, as well. Not a fan of the bubblegum.

Photo of mynie
2.67/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Tepid pour. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to put it in a pint glass, but I don't think it'd look any better in a chalice. Dull orange yellow, no head.

Smells like a decent saison, though maybe unbalanced and a little weak. White pepper, weeds, and a tiny bit of alcohol burn.

Tastes not *bad*, really, but it's a mess. Like a medium strength saison up front, with big nodes of pepper with a tiny bit of medicinal offness. This is followed up by astringent alcohol and a little hint of raspberries. Meh.

I'm thinking this is aged, and age ain't treated it all that well. The folks at Point are usually pretty competent, though, so I'll try this again if I ever see it fresh.

Photo of cokes
2.56/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Muddled mustard colored with a thick skim of white lace. There's not much to retain, but lacing is solid.
The aroma is doughy and sweet. And raspberries come out from the get-go. It smells nearly exactly like a doughnut filled with raspberry jam. A bunch of dough, some jellied fruit, all glazed with sugar. Yeah, it smells good in that sense, but nothing here indicates Saison, except for late clove and BubbleYum nuances (and those say Hefeweizen moreso than Saison).
That big white elephant/raspberry doughnut tromps through the mouth. It starts things off, and it's there on the finish. Luckily, it's not a horrendous flavor, even if it's far from my first choice in a beer. In between, there's a moment where the raspberry gets slightly tart and seedy, and vague notions of clover, cloves, bubblegum (a Point specialty) and honey. A touch of vastly overmatched, weedy hopping shows up late, to little avail, but any bit of balance and counter-weight is appreciated.
Medium-full bodied. Obese and sweet in the mouth. Though subtle, there are just enough tart/dry aspects to keep it from fully cloying. But it's very, very close to that threshold.
I was somewhat torn between listing this as a Saison or as a Fruit Beer. It's a fail as the former, and an almost-pass as the latter. The label says Saison, even if my tongue doesn't agree. I've listed it as such.

Come here only when the mood for liquid 8-hour old gas-station rasperry doughnuts hits. Look elsewhere for your Saison needs.

Update: After having another, these scores are generous. I've got one more, and I hope it goes away on its own.

Photo of FosterJM
2.65/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

1376th Review on BA
Bottle to Ithaca Tulip
12oz

No bottle date
Purchased from Total Wine, Las Vegas for 1.79

App- When this pours out its like a mix of honey and apple juice. Its a weird looking orange and yellows. A small 1/4" head forms thats was off white with no cling.

Smell- You get a bunch of the raspberry but smells too artificial. Has a small amount of the saison notes of wheat and spice but just off to me.

Taste- Its a saison with artificial raspberry. Wasnt the best, wasnt the worst. Had some nice flavors, a little thick and sweet but okay.

Mouth- A medium body with a thicker medium carbonation. Sweet raspberry artificial flavors.

Drink- It was less than 2. Just wont have it again.

Photo of Suds
3.05/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Golden color with a little haze and a white head, the beer is pretty average looking. Lots of raspberry aroma, along with some pale malt and flowery sweetness. The taste is intensely sweet...too sweet, actually. There is a bit of bitterness, and a touch of citric crispness. Earthy and a little bitter in the finish. Smooth mouthfeel. I wouldn't call this a saison, but the beer is a reasonably drinkable.

Photo of Holland
2.2/5  rDev -31.7%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A: golden, slightly cloudy, with no head at all

S: vomit mixed with spice and a hint of raspberry...okay, not much vomit, but it's not a great smell. Alcohol and acid and spice sum it up.

T: tastes like an average saison with raspberry flavoring. A bit salty, plus the tastes don't mix too well. Too much alcohol flavor.

M: plenty of carbonation but the body is too thick for a saison, so the carbonation can't shine

O: why would I ever get this? It doesn't even sound good. Just glad I only bought a single 12 ounce.

Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
2.28/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz bottle served in a standard pint glass.

L - hazed brass color with a thin white head.

S - fruity pebbles cereal.

T - odd fruity taste with a bland alcoholic finish.

F - medium bodied with mild carbonation.

O - I could only get halfway through this one before I had enough.

Photo of Chaney
3.44/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Bottle sent to me by BeerFMAndy. Thanks Andy!

Served in a DC Brau tulip.

A: Poured a very, very saturated cloudy orange color with only a wisp of a head to speak of. Looks like a saison.

S: Pretty gnarly actually. The raspberry component seemed fake and the Belgian yeast strain dominated just about everything.

T: Much better than the nose. I got raspberry juice in there through and through and the Belgiany quality was more on the backburner than I thought it was going to be. Good.

M: This one would have benefited greatly from an over-the-top, kick-ass carbonation component. Those bubbles would have cut through the saturated sweet component and then some.

O: I'm a huge saison fan. I this one deserves a bit more credit than it's getting on here, but not by much.

Photo of jampics2
3.2/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle into a snifter. 

This beer doesn' really look like a saison, let alone a beer with raspberries.  It's orange with just a touch of red and relatively clear. A small ring of head is all that remains after just a few moments. Film covers the beer. No lace is left behind. For a fruit beer it may be ok but a saison should have more head and cloudiness.   

The beer smells of raspberry and cider, with some yeast - but mostly fruit and booze. Cherry as well.  The raspberry isn't very prominent or pleasant, but the beer is decent smelling overall. But the elements of a saison - yeast, herbs, spices - are mostly missing.

The primary components of the taste are a sweet raspberry and booze. Raspberry is OK, it reminds me of Abita Purple Haze but kicked up a notch.  There is a bit of sweetness in the  finish. Touch of herbal hops, and maybe a bit of spice and yeast, but it's pretty off the mark for a saison.  

A crisp, medium body is a bit too carbonated. The beer's finish is raspberry and booze.   It's kinda artificial and misses its self proclaimed category almost entirely, but the beer is relatively pleasant.  I wouldn't seek this one out, but would try it one more time if I'm ever in Wisconsin.    

Photo of gatornation
3.36/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

pours a hazy golden yellow color with a nice collar and white ring..smell is raspberry and yeast with some clove and fruit like apples and pears..taste is fruit first apples and raspberry some yeast ,coriander, then some malt..raspberry are oh so subtle in this one it grows on you..mouth feel is light and fruity somewhat crisp fruit and malt continue ..this one is getting more drinkable as it warms..not a bad offering in a saison but you will have to like raspberry and other fruits..i liked it

Photo of schoolboy
3.82/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I like this more as a fruit beer than a saison. I am just a luke warm fan of Stevens Point, but this one is pretty OK.

It has the usual saison grassy flavor with a bit more regular hops and all of it tempered by a nice fruit flavor. The aroma is a nice fresh blend of things including the fruit.

The aftertaste has a solid booze going on, but again, with fruit under it. I won't go looking for this, but it was an interesting taste.

Photo of bismarksays
4.12/5  rDev +28%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Poured an orangish-yellow with a fingerling of head, not strong lacing, decent carbonation

S-Smells sweet and malty, touch of rasperries, lemongrass, and pepper

T/M Clean crisp raspberry with citrus notes and then a touch of pepper in the finish, Balanced and smooth. A touch sticky, perhaps, but a good fruit beer

Overall- I had this beer before and was perplexed by the negative reviews. I had to try it again to see if my initial impressions were wrong. Nope. I feel some people judged it too harshly because it is not a "true" saison, but many of those people missed the point of this beer. It is a great FRUIT beer, sessionable, and exceptionally crafted.

Photo of jwinship83
2.56/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

12oz bottle purchased on a whim. drank from my duvel tulip glass.

A- this one pours out of the bottle a glowing golden orange colored body with a small eggshell colored head on top. the head takes it time falling and leaves behind small spots of lacing.

S- the first thing i notice is raspberries. they dont exactly smell fresh, but the dont really smell artificial either. weird. i also get malted wheat and some orangey/citric notes.

T- i get more malted wheat and coriander/clove than anything else. this seems out of place in a saison. the raspberry comes through with decent force, but its weird and medicinal. not really my thing at all.

M- the carbonation level is very high. the weird medicinal is palate coating which causes a lingering aftertaste. ugh.

D- nope. i dont think ill be able to struggle through more than one of these in a very long while. definitely not more than one in a sitting. i guess im going to try to force the remainder of this four pack on my in-laws.

Photo of cdkrenz
3.87/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A - Slight haze in a golden orange body having a rather significant amount of rapidly rising bubbles. The head is off-white and started at about two inches. It has since retreated to a quarter inch where is seems to plateau.

S - Orange, tangerine, slight malt and a hint of wheat field.

T - In the beginning there's a nice balance between the fruit flavor and the malt. As the flavors transition the raspberry taste takes control. However, it doesn't overwhelm at any point. This is a nice, light flavored fruit brew that has a great taste for summer, (and autumn) sampling.

M - Coarse and abrasive for the majority of each pull. Once down, a thick layer of brew seems to be left coating the interior of my mouth.

~ I like this beer. It is nice to see a beer brewed with fruit that isn't overwhelmingly fruity. Especially one I can drink out at a backyard BBQ, or while hanging out at the sandbar while drifting on the boat. I definitely recommend this beer as a strong fruit beer, as far as a saison, not as much.

Photo of RoamingGnome
3.07/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

From tasting notes... Poured from 12 oz bottle into CBS snifter.

A) Light amber, fairly bright. There was not much head, and what was there settled to a collar. No lacing.

S) The malt sweetness was like butterscotch. There was a little spice, and of course some raspberry aroma. There was not much hop presence in the aroma.

T) A bit of yeast, malt sweetness. Raspberry and light spices. A little alcohol, but I found it to be fairly well hidden. Okay balance of flavors.

M) A medium/light bodied brew, that to me, really lacked an enjoyable mouthfeel. This felt flat, which was unexpected. Not sure of the bottling date. It went down alright.

O) This was a pretty average beer. I didn't find it near repulsive, but I can't imagine a scenario where I'll be drinking it again.

Photo of ATLbeerDog
2.81/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful cloudy bright orange yellow with a thick off white 2 finger head. Smells of raspberries and Belgium yeast. Aroma is lighter than I expected. First sip is super sweet to the point of being too sweet. As it warms some tartness appears but still too sweet for my taste. There’s candy notes and a banana flavor here too, but it is old banana. Each sip I keep thinking too damn sweet. Not enough yeast to think this will get more tart, sour, or better over time. Disappointed. Best part about this beer is the cool green cap featuring a black and pink pig.

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Whole Hog Raspberry Saison from Stevens Point Brewery
75 out of 100 based on 75 ratings.