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Lilja's Argosy IPA - Sand Creek Brewing Company

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Lilja's Argosy IPALilja's Argosy IPA

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78 Ratings
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Ratings: 78
Reviews: 60
rAvg: 3.11
pDev: 17.04%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Sand Creek Brewing Company visit their website
Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
English India Pale Ale (IPA) |  6.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: dirtylou on 09-12-2006)
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Reviews by granger10:
Photo of granger10
3.93/5  rDev +26.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear kind of an oragnish amberish color. Larger off white head, quality lacing. Smells fruity but weaker. A touch of some sweeter grain notes but more of a hoppy fruitiness. Very balanced taste. Slick smooth mouthfeel. Appropriate moderate liveliness. Some sweet caramel flavors early. More of a light earthy flavor in the middle. Herbal notes and fruity hop elements toward the back. Enjoyable, nothing mindblowing, but I think it's good for the style. Worth a buy.

granger10, Dec 08, 2006
More User Reviews:
Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

An extra in a trade. A serviceable IPA. Mild pleasant hop aromas. A medium yellow colour, with lots of foamy creamy head. Medium mouthfeel. Good drinkability,decent caramel malts, and being an English style not in-you-face bitterness, rather understated. WOrth a try.

Sammy, Apr 25, 2010
Photo of NeroFiddled
3.93/5  rDev +26.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Lilja's Argosy IPA pours a slightly hazy orange-amber robe beneath a thin head of creamy off-white that holds fairly well and leaves rings of splashy and spotty lace at the outset of the glass. Grainy, husky, biscuity and lightly caramel-accented malt greets you in the nose along with some spicy hops and a mild touch of yeasty fruitiness.

The body is medium with a dextrinous edge, and it flows smoothly across the palate with a moderate, very-fine bubbled natural carbonation.

Initially malty in the flavor, the hops pick up mid-palate. It's biscuity, with a toasty, bready, charamelish character; but not really "sweet". The hops are spicy, grassy, and subtly floral. Hints of citrusy appear in the finish, but that's probably due to a bit of tartness from the low pH of the yeast. The bitterness is solid, and resigned to balance, leaving it to finish dry and smooth with a smear of dextrinous maltiness and a sprinkling of grassy, floral, and spicy hops.

Nicely done, the Argosy IPA offers a good balance in what would be an otherwise overly malty ale. As for the IPA designation, it definitely falls in the English vein with a restrained bitterness, and reigned in hop flavors and aroma - but there is some strength to it. Enjoyable!

NeroFiddled, Mar 31, 2007
Photo of dirtylou
3.28/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz single, taken from the fridge of a friend, purchased at Riley's...I am assuming this was an attempt at an english IPA based on the taste and the name

appearance: pours into a dotty's pint glass...pale golden body, very clear, foamy white head with decent retention

smell: not much of anything in the way of a hop punch, mostly vegetal, toasted malt, caramel

taste: Not much better...apple sweetness comes through but still pretty empty in the hops department...What little hopping there is comes through in the way of pine and provides a light bitterness...toatsed malt is the dominant flavor with some caramel, a slight nuttyness, and a mild sweetness

mouthfeel: medium-light body

drinkability: easy

dirtylou, Sep 12, 2006
Photo of tempest
3.23/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

I can see where they're going with this beer. It reminds me a touch of Brooklyn EIPA, but the body is too thin and there isn't enough malt character. The hops do bring a nice earthy, perfumed mix of grapefruit and lemon peel. There's a hint of biscuity malt, but this is watery compared to most IPAs. Again, like the pale ale, this needs more oomph. I don't like overly thick beers, but this is just too thin

tempest, Dec 25, 2010
Photo of BeerCheese
2.68/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Nice copper color with average head, but it was a little cloudy with some chunky sediment even with a gentle pour. No indication on the bottle that it's unfiltered. Aroma was appropriate for the style - hoppy, not much malt. Taste was hoppy like an IPA should be, but a little watery for my taste. Pretty typical of an English IPA. A little weak on the carbonation. Not a beer I'd run out and buy again, so I have to give it a lower score on drinkability.

BeerCheese, Mar 24, 2008
Photo of cjacobsen
3.25/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

(A) Pours a light yellow orange color with and ample, frothy white head. Leaves a good amount of lacing.

(S) Some grapefruit and decent amount of orange and citrus. Pale malt. Some sugars.

(T) Has a bit of a dank flavor to it. Like wet, old hops. Tastes like there was a fair amount of simcoe used in this one. It's got a fair amount of citrus rind to it. Has some cereal aspect to the malt base. Has a really funky aftertaste that isn't all too pleasant.

(M) Oily and crisp. Medium to light body.

(O) I'm usually a fan of Sand Creek's products and the other Lilja's stuff that I've had have been pretty decent, but this one is kind of a let down. I've had some English IPAs before, and prefer American, but this one just didn't really do much for the style.

cjacobsen, Sep 20, 2011
Photo of russpowell
3.38/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Picked this as part of a mixed 6-er in Fayetteville, AR

Pours an effervescent gold with 3 fingers of cream colored head. Great lacing & above average head retention

S: Breadyness & grassy hops, jammy notes

T: Follows the nose, some leafy hops & apricots up front. Jammy notes plus leafy & woody hops as this warms. Finishes with jammyness, plus dryness with woody & leafy hops

MF: Medium bodied, creamy carbonation, okay balance

Much like other offerings from these guys, just a run of the mill example of the style, nothing to see here. Drinks okay, just not digging the hop profile at all, which makes it somewhat a slog to finish

russpowell, May 28, 2013
Photo of Kegatron
3.28/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle into a tulip glass.

Pours hazed golden copper, with lots of suspended oils very visible, and topped with a finger of tight eggshell-white head. This retains with a ¼ finger of froth, which maintains a good richness to it and leaves a solid latticework of thick lacing behind. The aroma is grassyl, green, and earthy overall, with grapefruit accents giving the nose some bitterness while sweet grains pulling up the rear.

The taste is bitter with grapefruit and citrus rind, with that toasted malt sweetness balancing out the back. This finishes with some leafy feeling earthiness and lingering dry spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a crisper feeling carbonation on top that then gives way to a good bit of oily slickness underneath. This is maybe a tad too thin on the swallow. Some gentle warmth hangs on the breath after each sip but that's about it as far as the ABV goes.

This was OK I guess. The hop profile came off as a little too one dimensional to me at times, with a bit more assertiveness to the bitterness probably would have been more welcome here. This did hide its ABV pretty darn well though, which at least helped keep things smooth on the palate for the most part. Decent but I probably wouldn't have another.

Kegatron, Jun 24, 2010
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3.5/5  rDev +12.5%

zonker17, Jan 12, 2012
Photo of beerthulhu
2.68/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A: Cadmium orange coloring with a good clarity reveals a medium dense effervesce rising at a rapid rate making the micro- yeast particles within swirling around in the glass like a wind tunnel. A rocky light beige head sits atop like a 2 finger high pile of shaving cream sticking tough to the glass walls with a well lasting retention.

S: Peppery flowers and pine first come to mind on the nose. Dried lemon meringue, fresh parsley with some cinnamon toast and cereal grains. Intriguing, not your typical ipa hopping. Spicy, fruity and flowery of light strength.

T: Toasted grains with a touch of peppery flowery hops. Things turn to dried citrus, fairly bitter with signs of pine and dried grapefruit. The hoppiness is pretty blunt, lacking the complexity found on the nose. Dried pine comes on strong for the finish along with a peppery fade. There are flashes of intermittent sweetness from the grain here and there in the beginning, but over there is a sour, almost acidic nature to the flavor. All and all the hops are blunt, kinda coarse and without much taste defining flavor, the malting is toasted and of medium base while the alcohol is quite noticeable.

M: medium by weight, dry, citrusy and peppery warming the inner cheeks along with some fore-mentioned alcohol presence. Some washiness comes from the mostly lasting head with every sip.

O: Overall a blunt ipa, but not necessarily a good thing. Dry, peppery with a focus on a knock out hop punch rather flavor, complexity and balance. A smack your tongue around hoppiness but ultimately doesn’t taste all that good, and I do love my hops strong in my beer, this is just a wreck in composition. the hopping is totally off per english style.

beerthulhu, Sep 05, 2011
Photo of BierFan
3.58/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a pint glass. No freshness date to be found.

Appearance: One inch of foam on top of the hazy cider colored body. Good lacing and head retention.

Smell: Doesn't have the same kind of citrus hop aromas that most would normally expect an IPA to have. Rather flowery, like most heavily hopped European style beers.

Taste: Creamy mouthfeel, flowery hops, little yeast bite. This reminds me a lot of Bell's pale ale.

BierFan, Jun 26, 2009
Photo of omegaman
2.5/5  rDev -19.6%

omegaman, Feb 15, 2012
Photo of bjohn84
3/5  rDev -3.5%

bjohn84, Aug 10, 2012
Photo of twoheadedboy
3.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Immediately after pouring, I couldn't quite shake the feeling that this is really a mislabeled adjunct lager.

Color was the very light, clear bronze of an adjunct. The smell was minimal, very few hops noticable, coming across more sweet and grainy.

Taste was slightly better, but no real discernible malt characteristics and again came across as being unusually light and watery (akin to a high-end adjunct). Hops were present but underwhelming. Finish was smooth with very little of the bitterness or sharp citrus commonly found in ipas.

Overall a kinda disappointing outing, very drinkable but not possessing enough taste to really make it worthwhile.

twoheadedboy, Nov 29, 2010
Photo of Tyrawlings
3/5  rDev -3.5%

Tyrawlings, Feb 16, 2012
Photo of supercolter
3.53/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance is relatively bland for an EIPA. Coppery hue with no real head or lacing to note.
Smell and taste are decent but nothing special. Firm evergreen hop taste that hangs on the whole way though. That was really all that I picked up on this one. Sort of like an overhopped pilsner.
Mouthfeel is pretty decen actually. Some notalbe carbonation and oily feel.
Drinkability is ok.

supercolter, Mar 02, 2009
Photo of alcstradamus
2.7/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Beautiful creamy, sticky head that sits upon a pale golden base.

Very watery, musty, and waxy...three characteristics which are bad enough individually but together make for a really weak beer.

The taste isn't much better...nothing off-putting but really nothing of note. Watery and plain, with a bit of stale bread. Normal mouthfeel, but this just isn't drinkable due to its overall lack of anything noteworthy.

alcstradamus, Aug 29, 2009
Photo of neenerzig
3.93/5  rDev +26.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured out a 12 oz. bottle into my pint glass as i have had this sitting in my fridge for about 2 months now. This beer pours a hazy medium golden color that burns into a lemon like yellow when held to the light. Has a nice big, fluffy white hear well over an inch thick when poured, settling to a good 2/3 inch with very nice lacing and then eventually settles to a good solid 1/4 inch with good retention. Aromas of earthy citrus hops along with a nice caramel and biscuit malt undertone. Very nice citrus hop bitterness flavor upfront, followed by a nice, slightly toasted, biscuit and caramel malt flavor along with a sort of grainy taste. Very well balanced, but the hops certainly dominate. This is very tasty. Has a nice full bodied and crisp, frothy mouthfeel with moderate carbonation. This really is a good beer, one the best English IPA's I have had in a long time. Spot on for the style I'd say. I would certainly drink this again.

Eric

neenerzig, Jan 18, 2010
Photo of OldSchoolGamer
2.8/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Another unremarkable beer from an unremarkable brewery.

A: This has got to be one of the cheapest and generic looking beer labels I have ever seen. The beer pours a Bud Light yellow. A little cloudy. Head is actually nice and creamy. Lacing is present.

S/T: The aroma is very grainy and cheap. Slight fruityness in there. Taste is also pretty cheap. Pretty grainy with a hint of hops. Maybe some chlorine in there as well. Its not offensive at all, just very cheap. Not a lot there. Their Pale Ale was hoppier and more impressive than this.

M/D: Mouthfeel is pretty watery. Not bitter like an IPA should be. Not dry either. Drinks rather well, actually. Probably could slam a few of these down if I wanted, but with such better beer out there, why bother?.

If a macro-brewery made an IPA, this is exactly what it would taste like. Cheap on the hops and flavor, this is quite a forgettable beer. You probably won't even take notice of this beer to begin with due to the cheap label. Pass it up.

OldSchoolGamer, Nov 14, 2009
Photo of pweis909
2.28/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A=Hazy yellow orange with a strong white foamy head that laced the glass.

S=Butterscotch with no hop aroma.

T=Sweet, oxidized, and butterscotchy.

M=Feels right.

O=I vehemently would refuse a second one.

This beer is nothing like a good English IPA. The heavy diacetyl points to a fermentation problem. Lack of hop presence points to a recipe problem, and perhaps, an age issue. And the oxidized character, of course, points to poor storage and possibly poor packaging.

Nice label. I dig the mythology reference, and I really disliked this beer.

pweis909, Jan 02, 2012
Photo of Realale
3.1/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Clear pale gold. Bright white, extremely fine head settles to a mostly complete cap leaving some lacing.

Nose is a solid cookie-like malt base with some earthy, spicy hop. Not enough hop in my book for an IPA. It's simple, but nice.

Medium in the mouth. Nice solid malt is the star, with some hop bitterness kicking in on the mid-palate and hanging around on the surprisingly long finish. There's a bit of citric, spicy hop flavor, but it is definitely a minor player here. Again, it's pleasant, but doesn't say IPA to me.

Mouthfeel is fine, with a briskness to the carbonation that is accentuated by the mineral treatment. It's quite drinkable, but not very IPA.

Realale, Sep 15, 2006
Photo of Ryan011235
2.05/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Poured into a pint glass on 11/12/09

A - Ever-so-slightly cloudy yellow with ¼ inch head of white foam. Decent retention throughout. Solid & impressive lacing.

S - It smells of an American Adjunct Lager - thin & grainy. Hints of muddled & unfocused hops. Faint citrus presence as it warms.

T - There are no surprises here after what was put forward by the nose. The only real difference is that the hops come across as more murky, resembling rotten orange & lemon rind. Hints of pine & a dry toastiness.

M - Moderately light body with ample carbonation. There is a skeevy bitterness that lingers a few moments too long.

D - This may as well be a "hoppy" American Adjunct Lager; in the confines of such a style it might be considered almost decent. As an English IPA however, this is pretty much awful. I simply cannot recommend this one.

Ryan011235, Dec 07, 2009
Photo of brandoman63
3.5/5  rDev +12.5%

brandoman63, Nov 30, 2011
Photo of EricCioe
3.1/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This pours a particulate-laden grapefruit color with a one finger white head with frothy bubbles leaving spotty lace on the way down to a cap. On the nose there is fresh cut grass, slight citric notes, and a strange fruitiness that to me smells like the Sam Adams house nose. It almost smells like a pale lager rather than an IPA. In the mouth there is a big base of pale malt mixed in with a strange hop note that reminds me of eating a dandelion, which I have never done. The finish is pretty short but this beer does have a nicely carbonated medium body.

Overall, this is a strange IPA, but an okay beer overall. It seems a little on the weak side, even for an English IPA. That said, I wasn't totally turned off to the brewery by this beer, so I'll seek something else out at some point.

EricCioe, Jun 30, 2011
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Lilja's Argosy IPA from Sand Creek Brewing Company
73 out of 100 based on 78 ratings.