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Bad King John - Ridgeway Brewing

Bad King JohnBad King John

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BA SCORE
84
good

82 Ratings
THE BROS
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no score

(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 82
Reviews: 49
rAvg: 3.72
pDev: 9.68%


Brewed by:
Ridgeway Brewing visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Stout |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Suds on 06-02-2008)
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OtherShoe2

Massachusetts

3.83/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours dark brown with a little transparency. Skim creamy tan head what leaves some really decent clingy skim-like lace.

Mild charred malt and creamy coffee notes. A whiff of chocolate.

Assertive charred malt that leads to a bit of creaminess in the mouth. Bitter coffee notes, chicory, carbon. But with all of those harsh edges, this one is…smooth. Finish is bitter and svn a little medicinal.

Medium to medium full. A little loose for a stout.

Very very decent brew. A bitter-focused English stout, with still a bit of smoothness. Worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

11-23-2013 01:07:20 | More by OtherShoe2
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Pegasus

Texas

3.7/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Opaque dark brown body, crowned by a moderate, dense, dark tan head, which retains fairly well. The lacing is utterly glass-coating, and quite superb.

Aroma: Lots of roasted barley up front, followed by a fairly strong dark fruit presence, possibly dark plums, or figs.

Taste: Opens with bitter cocoa, and a sharp infusion of earthy hops. As the taste progresses, the hops reach ascendency, while the bitter cocoa is drawn out to a strong and lingering presence. Finishes with a lingering,earthy and bitter hop presence.

Mouth feel: Smooth, soft, and very pleasant.

Drinkability/notes: Would have benefit ted from a more moderate hop selection, the hops were simply too earthy.

Presentation: packaged in a custom 19.9 ounce (500 ml) brown glass bottle with a pry-off crown, served in a New Belgium brewing chalice.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2013 04:19:45 | More by Pegasus
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jazzyjeff13

United Kingdom (England)

3.38/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 500ml bottle with a BB of Dec 2012. The last of my Sainsbury's Beer Hunt brews - from 2011! I've been sitting on this for a while; hope it's still OK. The label is edged by a quotation from Scott's novel Ivanhoe, and the name of the beer is presumably also taken from the book.

Poured into a tulip pint glass. Bottle conditioned. Appears black, though it is revealed as a dark reddish-brown when held to the light. Yields a decent head of creamy off-white foam that lasts for a minute or so before settling and disappearing. Aroma of dark roasted malt with hints of chocolate, caramel/molasses, grain, nuttiness, mild dried fruit, faint coffee and earthy yeast. Slightly sweet. A subtle but nicely rounded character.

Tastes of roasted malt with a dry, bitter finish. Notes of burnt grain, ash, liquorice, hints of coffee, chocolate, caramel/molasses, faint prunes, earthy yeast and stewed hops. An acrid quality pervades the flavour, along with a mild sourness. A strident, malt-driven bitterness upon swallowing, along with a touch of alcohol in the background. Mouthfeel is smooth, dry and tingly, with a slight spiciness and decent body. Somewhat astringent, with an aftertaste of bitter roasted malt and stewed hops.

An OK brew - more of a strong dark ale than a stout (not roasty enough in my opinion). The smell is nice, with balanced complexity. The taste is less pleasing - a touch too much roasted malt and burnt grain crowd out the other flavours, resulting in an excessively dry bitterness. Body could be a tad more meaty. Drinkable but nothing too special. Worth trying, but no need to seek it out.

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2012 01:07:30 | More by jazzyjeff13
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LiquidAmber

Washington

3.45/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Review from 1/2010 notes. Poured into a Caracole small snifter. Pours a dark brown amber, light tan head and light lacing. Mild roasted and sweet malt aroma. Light flavor of dark caramel malt, slight hops. Flavors nice but very subdued. Like most of the beer from this brewery, the flavors are OK, but too bland and low key. Light to medium bodied. This tastes more like a dark ale than a stout.

Serving type: bottle

08-08-2012 03:42:03 | More by LiquidAmber
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BlackHaddock

United Kingdom (England)

4.23/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle (bottle conditioned): best before 17 Feb 2013, poured into my Abbot Ale glass tankard 9 Apr 2012.

Looks good: tan head on an exceedingly dark body.

The nose and taste are a great blend of dark chocolate, liquorice, bitter coffee and burnt prunes.

Not rich in body but flavoursome and interesting: a fine brew.

Serving type: bottle

04-09-2012 18:48:38 | More by BlackHaddock
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Samp01

New Jersey

3.63/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A dark clear brown with a small short lived brown head on the pour. Aroma and Taste of roasted caramel malt, some coffee and dark fruit, with some liquorice notes and light bitterness. Palate is a medium body with moderate carbonation. Finish is a sweet roasted caramel malt, cacao, espresso with some light liquorice flavor and some bitterness on the end for balance. Both the aroma and flavor become more pronounced as it warms up. Overall a good tasty brew.

Serving type: bottle

04-06-2012 19:13:29 | More by Samp01
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avalon07

South Carolina

3.48/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy texture. There was an inch of creamy, fairly long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A very, very muted aroma of malt, coffee, and a little hops.

T: Tasted of light coffee notes, a good shot of malt, mild hops and a burnt quality. The flavor here is decent enough, but is certainly on the mild side.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a super dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: Not necessarily a bad beer, but not particularly memorable either.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2012 13:02:29 | More by avalon07
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StJamesGate

New York

3.65/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Russet-tinged black with steady beige head that leaves few trailers. Blackberry and ash on the nose with a bit of Band-aid.
Dark roast coffee, melted brown sugar, dates, hints of dark chocolate and cola-type caramel, then an assertively bitter hop ending made mostly of branch and autumn leaf.
Sweet comeback, dry linger. Medium, oily, chewy, slick, no burn.

Maybe a bit sugary and simple; not huge depth here. But good roasty notes; more oily than most. Oil and sugar do contrive to be a cloyingly bittersweet after a while, but at this strength you're not sessioning it anyway.

I'd been ready to write off Ridgeway based on rep and some very average beers, this earns them a stay of execution.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2012 21:44:49 | More by StJamesGate
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EmperorBevis

United Kingdom (England)

4.1/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pored in one swift fluid motion into a tulip pint glass to avoid any sediment.

Black bodied with thick big bubbled beige head that quickly dispersed.

Rich coffee aroma with a fruity hint, maybe raspberry dunked in dark chocolate.

A nice spritely spicy taste, peppery with bitter notes the roast comes through nicely in coal tasting smack to round it off.

surprisingly sup'able probably due to the great carbonation making it an easy drinking experience.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2011 01:35:34 | More by EmperorBevis
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tvv375ia

Iowa

3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured from 500ml bottle into imperial pint glass

A-more of a dark ruby color with about a finger of head that faded wuickly with a little lacing

S- a little coffee and some roasted malt smell

T-some coffee and dark fruits with a finish of some carmel

M-a little on the thin side for a stout, I like mine a little creamier

O-A lot of potential but not quite there maybe a stout light

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2011 02:11:23 | More by tvv375ia
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thepeter

United Kingdom (England)

3.35/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a brownish red with minimal head turning to film and decent lacing. Smells of rich sweet roasted malt some dark fruits and maybe some plum. Tastes like a sweet or a milk stout not enough hop presence or any complexity really. Not bad but nothing special. Feel is a bit too carbonated at first, again nothing special here. Not a bad beer but nothing I would buy again.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2011 20:08:34 | More by thepeter
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CwrwAmByth

United Kingdom (Wales)

3.85/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle #3 of Sainsbury's Beer Hunt 2011! Poured from a 500ml bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a black/very dark reddy brown colour, decent cream coloured head and good lacing.

Smells overall malty and burnt.

Tastes quite refreshing, the balance between malts and hops leans more towards the malts, though a nice hoppy bitter sweetness is their on the finish.

Overall quite a good stout, better than guinness anyway.

Serving type: bottle

09-09-2011 18:51:27 | More by CwrwAmByth
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18tony

Texas

3.33/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

like my last girl this beer gave me no head, no matter how hard i tried.

the ups on this beer is it's abv.

the down on it is an average taste. i mean it wasn't bad by any means but it did not aspire to do more then that.

behind the alcohol nose, there is a slight carmel end as you would expect from a stout.

would i have another one? absolutely, if you're buying.

Serving type: bottle

08-29-2011 01:44:33 | More by 18tony
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treque

Mexico

3.75/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: a deep brown with amber tints, clear, traslucent, thick creamy, long lasting, tant head, waste left behind on the glass

S: some roast, toast malts aroma

T: sweet malts, well balanced, toast, bitterness at the end, long final, medium body, moderate carbonation, residual sweetness

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2011 03:01:14 | More by treque
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jondeelee

Massachusetts

3.63/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bad King John sports a medium-heavy nose, full of complex aromas that begin with cognac and Irish Cream, and move from there into more subtle hints of caramel, apple, and chocolate malt.

On the tongue, the beer is less flavorful than the nose would imply, but still bears a good amount of malty goodness, with caramels, fresh-baked breads, and a good smattering of chocolate malts dominating. Very subtle hints of tobacco and ash rest beneath the surface, and the whole brew has a creamy texture, much like milk or a good oatmeal stout. The aftertaste is predominantly darker flavors, such as chocolate malt and ash, and lasts for a while. Subsequent mouthfuls result in a slightly diminished taste profile. Mouthfeel is quite light for a black ale--medium-light on the larger scale--and carbonation is medium.

Overall, I found the flavors in this brew good, but was disappointed in not only what I thought was a missed opportunity at larger flavors, but also thicker mouthfeel. Still, this might be a good introduction to black ales for newcomers, as it does provide all of the requisite flavors, albeit in a lighter format.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2011 03:06:42 | More by jondeelee
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

3.58/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer was a thin looking deep brown color with just a bit of fan head across the top. The lacing was nonexistent. The smell of the beer had some nice roasted malt aromas but they weren't overly strong. The taste was pleasantly light and had some flavors in it that I was having trouble pinpointing. The mouthfeel was thin but I didn't mind for some reason. Overall I thought it was a pretty good stout but still just about average in my opinion.

Serving type: cask

06-20-2011 20:56:00 | More by Knapp85
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Bouleboubier

Pennsylvania

3.48/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this on tap at a Shelton Bros event during Phila Beer Week. Thought it was from cask the way it was presented - filled to the brim of the glass, flat and still. Sipped it down slowly - very clean and thin in body and taste. Lightly sour/acidic coffee roast flavor, no chocolaty undertones, no hops, little discernible malt flavor. Every so often, I gave it a swirl - absolutely no carbonation. Not sure if that's the norm with this, but it certainly affected the feel, smell (which was super weak, coffee/malt-syrup sweet), and possibly flavor.

It's a decent stout, arguably a porter. It was black, showing rusty red with a half sip left. I'd give it another shot at some point, but I'd consider it a semi-bland table beer.

Serving type: on-tap

06-11-2011 15:35:56 | More by Bouleboubier
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tempest

Pennsylvania

3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Tap and Table. Appeared just barely black with red highlights. This stout was drinkable and true to style, but uninspiring. The character is flat and lacks depth. There's just a roasted barley taste with a touch of dark chocolate. Yes, it nice. Yes, I'm a little tough on this beer. But there's a lot of potential for this style.

Serving type: on-tap

03-19-2011 03:05:31 | More by tempest
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.88/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: A dark cola pour comes off deep black in my duvel tulip. The head is a bit wispy and washy, parchment in color and weak on the hold. Lacing is moderate, a thin intricate spiderweb design covering the inside with a fair amount of coverage. Effervesce can be seen rising steadily along the glass edges of single file micro-bubbles rising at a moderate pace.

S: Medium sense of roast and dried dark chocolate appear on the opening scent. Aroma is simple, typical English pub fare, wont knock you off your feet or tickle your nostrils but is suited well enough within the style parameters.

T: Dark roasty nature brings a good sense of bitterness of dark fruit. Rich chocolate malts accompanied by some anise provide a smooth and easy flavor highlighted with a burnt caramel sweetness. Big on flavor on the open while it finishes out with a light and playful roast that is easy on the close.

M: Light to medium body, smooth coffee roast turns fuller as it sits. Good deal of carbonation tickling the tongue along with a fade and grace of dark fruit and roast of medium proportions.

D: Roasty yet incredibly smooth for flavor making for a solid good drinkability factor. The alcohol is very well hidden making you feel like you are drinking a session style pub at 5% rather then a tick above at 6%. Yeah I could easily enjoy a few of these in a nice typical English pub setting.

Serving type: bottle

03-08-2011 23:30:03 | More by beerthulhu
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Mebuzzard

Colorado

3.43/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Nothing like an awesome name for a big, bad, bold stout. Let's see if this stout is....well, stout.

Pours a very dark brown. Almost black. Ruby tints around the walls betrays the blackness. Nice, thick and somewhat creamy head. Looks lush.

Aroma isn't wonderful, but not bad. Not as strong as I thought it would be. Cola and roasted malt dominate. Semi sweet but sharp at the same time. A bit weak, though.

Taste is better. Roasty. The cola supplies some sweetness and an odd background taste...not quite plum. Light on the chocolate and coffee. Earthy and some anise on the end. Not quite sold on this beer.

It's not bad. Easy drinking. Would drink again

Serving type: bottle

03-04-2011 22:55:15 | More by Mebuzzard
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SkeeterHawk

Texas

3.58/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I picked this beer up the other day at the downtown Spec's. From reading the bottle I am expecting something like Arrogant Bastard, but I don't know that an English beer can be that aggressive. Let's see...

Appearance: Pours a very dark color that looks like it would be pretty clear if you held a bright enough light up to it. There was a small head of tan bubbles after a pretty aggressive pour. After a minute or so, there was still a pretty solid ring of cream around the top of the beer at the glass. there is a pretty decent amount of lace left on the glass after drinking, so it is a pretty good looking beer overall.

Aroma: My initial impression was of a toffee drink with a shot of vodka in it. Man, that can't be good. Going back in, I don't get that like I did right after the pour. Now there is some earthy British hops starting to come out to mix with the sweet malt that is still dominating. As the beer is starting to warm, I am getting roasted pecans. Interesting.

Taste: The beer overall is pretty thin bodied and this is one of the first things you notice about the sip. There are dark caramel malts giving a bit of a toffee impression, but the malts have a bit darker edge to them than the aroma alluded to so they are a bit acidic when mixing with the hops in the finish. There is a little contribution from the alcohol and it really just adds some heat and dryness to the finish that it didn't really need because of the attenuation and the hops.

Opinion: This is an OK beer and probably one of the best that I have had from this brewery yet. I don't know what that is saying, but there you have it. The beer itself is a bit harsh on the finish, but it has a decent amount of flavor. Would I drink it again?...probably. Would I seek it out? No, the Bastard is much better.

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2011 04:48:24 | More by SkeeterHawk
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ForWhatAlesYou

Minnesota

3.78/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review #100
500 ml bottle into a pint glass

A: Extremely dark brown, nearly pitch black. Pours a modest head that takes on a light mocha color. No lace.

S: A little skunky initially. Underneath that is chocolate malt, licorice, some playful esthers.

T: A little modest, but good. A lot like a Guinness but with deeper bitterness and much more nuance in the flavor profile. Coffee grounds, rye toast, burnt nuts.

M: Lingering, viscous, a little chewy. Good level (medium) carbonation.

D: In no way do I find this one sessionable but who says that's a bad thing... A very nice brew to end my day with.

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2011 05:28:49 | More by ForWhatAlesYou
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ramseye4

Virginia

3.3/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I've never heard of this beer before, but picked it up while deciding to try something new, plus the bottle has a great label. Dark brown wood colored body, big fluffy head that holds for a few minutes before gradually fading away. Great looking beer. Smells a bit weak, mostly malt in the aroma, unimpressive. Roasted malt comes up first in the taste, a faint metallic presence is there as well. faint bitterness, a bit of cocoa is present in the finish. Very, very average. Mouthfeel is a bit thin, a tad over carbonated. Drinkability is good, the simple taste and medium body help it out.

Not bad, not great. I wouldn't mind having this periodically, but I'm not disappointed that this isn't readily available where I live.

Serving type: bottle

02-01-2011 00:57:03 | More by ramseye4
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gfreed

Massachusetts

3.68/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It seems to me that the good brewers at Ridgeway have been trading copy-editing notes with their counterparts at Stone. The over-the-top blather on the label has nothing to do with the beer inside the bottle. This beer is most definitely *not* big and bad, black and bitter, or anything near "ruthless." It is, however, subtle and tasty. The ruby color is inviting; the roasted aroma is appealing, and the taste is complex without requiring too much contemplation or philosophy to decode. The body is surprisingly thin for the style, however, and for that I think Ridgeway should have their collective heads mounted on pikes.

Well, not really.

This beer is worth bringing home, but be wary of the marketeers.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 22:03:34 | More by gfreed
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dedrinker

Kansas

3.45/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Darkest wood veneer with a thin white-ish head.

Faint aroma of roasted malts and some hints of dark fruit.

The flavor was a light roasty malt with some bitterness. I would say that if it was a little dark chocolate and black coffee I perceived, then it was an inferior brand of chocolate and coffee - Hershey's and Maxwell House instant.

Not bad though overall, just a lot less than I was being lead to expect.

Medium/full body with a dry, lightly burnt malt bitterness on the finish.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2010 06:35:31 | More by dedrinker
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Bad King John from Ridgeway Brewing
84 out of 100 based on 82 ratings.