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Bad King John - Ridgeway Brewing

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89 Ratings
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 49
rAvg: 3.75
pDev: 9.87%
Wants: 4
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Ridgeway Brewing visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Stout |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Suds on 06-02-2008)
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OtherShoe2

Massachusetts

3.83/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours dark brown with a little transparency. Skim creamy tan head what leaves some really decent clingy skim-like lace.

Mild charred malt and creamy coffee notes. A whiff of chocolate.

Assertive charred malt that leads to a bit of creaminess in the mouth. Bitter coffee notes, chicory, carbon. But with all of those harsh edges, this one is…smooth. Finish is bitter and svn a little medicinal.

Medium to medium full. A little loose for a stout.

Very very decent brew. A bitter-focused English stout, with still a bit of smoothness. Worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

11-23-2013 01:07:20 | More by OtherShoe2
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lackenhauser

Maryland

4.22/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Deep brown in color bordering on black. Minor tan colored head on top. Low aroma-some minor nutty notes as well as a tinge of cocoa. Killer malty and mildly roasted flavor. Slight graininess that brings out the roasted quality even more. Slight chocolate and espresso flavors. Mild hop presence. Very well balanced flavor wise. Good mouthfeel. Nice lingering dry taste. Very very drinkable. I love the whole package.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2009 20:52:58 | More by lackenhauser
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Pegasus

Texas

3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Opaque dark brown body, crowned by a moderate, dense, dark tan head, which retains fairly well. The lacing is utterly glass-coating, and quite superb.

Aroma: Lots of roasted barley up front, followed by a fairly strong dark fruit presence, possibly dark plums, or figs.

Taste: Opens with bitter cocoa, and a sharp infusion of earthy hops. As the taste progresses, the hops reach ascendency, while the bitter cocoa is drawn out to a strong and lingering presence. Finishes with a lingering,earthy and bitter hop presence.

Mouth feel: Smooth, soft, and very pleasant.

Drinkability/notes: Would have benefit ted from a more moderate hop selection, the hops were simply too earthy.

Presentation: packaged in a custom 19.9 ounce (500 ml) brown glass bottle with a pry-off crown, served in a New Belgium brewing chalice.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2013 04:19:45 | More by Pegasus
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Offa

California

4.53/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is deep, dark red-brown, almost black, a little bubbly in the body, with a big, rich tan head that slwoly shrinks to a foamy ring and leaves some decent lace.

The aroma is very nice, fairly strong but smooth and pleasant. It has toasted brown bread, stewed prunes, hay, and hints of chocolate and port.

The taste is quite interesting, flavourful, and complex. Up front it starts smoothly with sweet fruit, especially prunes, toasted brown bread, a hint of fruitcake. This gradually transforms into a drier, toastier character with gradually increasing bitterness including pepper and spice (licorice, perhaps), and light hints of bitter chocolate and unsweetened coffee. The change is smooth and gradual, to a lightly bitter, dry finish containing the pepper, etc. The bitterness lingers, slowly getting a little stronger to fill the mouth before fading. Hwoever, nothing is sharp or burn tasting, the bitterness is not clinging or unpleasant (it stops just short of getting unpleasant), and it has a nice spicey-coffee character. The whole experience is enjoyable, engaging, interesting, very flavourful from start to finish, and the beer is quite drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

10-07-2008 16:52:57 | More by Offa
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jazzyjeff13

United Kingdom (England)

3.38/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 500ml bottle with a BB of Dec 2012. The last of my Sainsbury's Beer Hunt brews - from 2011! I've been sitting on this for a while; hope it's still OK. The label is edged by a quotation from Scott's novel Ivanhoe, and the name of the beer is presumably also taken from the book.

Poured into a tulip pint glass. Bottle conditioned. Appears black, though it is revealed as a dark reddish-brown when held to the light. Yields a decent head of creamy off-white foam that lasts for a minute or so before settling and disappearing. Aroma of dark roasted malt with hints of chocolate, caramel/molasses, grain, nuttiness, mild dried fruit, faint coffee and earthy yeast. Slightly sweet. A subtle but nicely rounded character.

Tastes of roasted malt with a dry, bitter finish. Notes of burnt grain, ash, liquorice, hints of coffee, chocolate, caramel/molasses, faint prunes, earthy yeast and stewed hops. An acrid quality pervades the flavour, along with a mild sourness. A strident, malt-driven bitterness upon swallowing, along with a touch of alcohol in the background. Mouthfeel is smooth, dry and tingly, with a slight spiciness and decent body. Somewhat astringent, with an aftertaste of bitter roasted malt and stewed hops.

An OK brew - more of a strong dark ale than a stout (not roasty enough in my opinion). The smell is nice, with balanced complexity. The taste is less pleasing - a touch too much roasted malt and burnt grain crowd out the other flavours, resulting in an excessively dry bitterness. Body could be a tad more meaty. Drinkable but nothing too special. Worth trying, but no need to seek it out.

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2012 01:07:30 | More by jazzyjeff13
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JohnBender

Texas

3/5  rDev -20%

04-23-2012 22:48:54 | More by JohnBender
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morebeergood

Massachusetts

3.55/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Deep Ellum this past weekend. Served in a standard pint glass. Dark brown color to the body. Decent sized head. Not a lot of aroma noticed. Roasted barley flavor was there, but not a lot else. Pretty smooth beer so I found quite easy to drink. But honestly, this beer did nothing for me and seemed run of the mill. Didn't stand out in any which way.

Serving type: on-tap

01-14-2009 00:31:41 | More by morebeergood
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rtepiak

Poland

4.15/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

a unigue experience that separates the english stout from the export. mild but no diluted. good retention. supriseingly fruit but backbone of malt molasses. the palate is clean and not creamy... but broad. vanilla, cocoa, molasses, and a lot of blackberry. fantastic. mild but not basic.

Serving type: bottle

08-07-2010 08:53:07 | More by rtepiak
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SkeeterHawk

Texas

3.58/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I picked this beer up the other day at the downtown Spec's. From reading the bottle I am expecting something like Arrogant Bastard, but I don't know that an English beer can be that aggressive. Let's see...

Appearance: Pours a very dark color that looks like it would be pretty clear if you held a bright enough light up to it. There was a small head of tan bubbles after a pretty aggressive pour. After a minute or so, there was still a pretty solid ring of cream around the top of the beer at the glass. there is a pretty decent amount of lace left on the glass after drinking, so it is a pretty good looking beer overall.

Aroma: My initial impression was of a toffee drink with a shot of vodka in it. Man, that can't be good. Going back in, I don't get that like I did right after the pour. Now there is some earthy British hops starting to come out to mix with the sweet malt that is still dominating. As the beer is starting to warm, I am getting roasted pecans. Interesting.

Taste: The beer overall is pretty thin bodied and this is one of the first things you notice about the sip. There are dark caramel malts giving a bit of a toffee impression, but the malts have a bit darker edge to them than the aroma alluded to so they are a bit acidic when mixing with the hops in the finish. There is a little contribution from the alcohol and it really just adds some heat and dryness to the finish that it didn't really need because of the attenuation and the hops.

Opinion: This is an OK beer and probably one of the best that I have had from this brewery yet. I don't know what that is saying, but there you have it. The beer itself is a bit harsh on the finish, but it has a decent amount of flavor. Would I drink it again?...probably. Would I seek it out? No, the Bastard is much better.

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2011 04:48:24 | More by SkeeterHawk
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beer2day

North Carolina

3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours very dark, near black with some reddish tint coming through. Nice, fluffy 2-finger head atop my impy pint glass. Decent retention, too, lasting all the way through to the bottom of the pint.

Sweet malt and roast malt dominate the nose. Getting anise and caramel underneath. Slightly sour milk rounds things out.

Taste is a little milder than expected, but grows on you. Slight sweetness in the hit, but goes a little bitter mid tongue and finishes with a nice dry coffee bitterness.

Body is also a little thinner than expected, but that makes for a very drinkable stout. While the flavor profile would definitely satisfy on a cold night, the body makes this light enough to drink on a warmer early spring day.

If you like English dry stout, this is worth checking out. Can be a little pricey for a bottle, though.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2010 01:46:58 | More by beer2day
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EmperorBevis

United Kingdom (England)

4.1/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pored in one swift fluid motion into a tulip pint glass to avoid any sediment.

Black bodied with thick big bubbled beige head that quickly dispersed.

Rich coffee aroma with a fruity hint, maybe raspberry dunked in dark chocolate.

A nice spritely spicy taste, peppery with bitter notes the roast comes through nicely in coal tasting smack to round it off.

surprisingly sup'able probably due to the great carbonation making it an easy drinking experience.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2011 01:35:34 | More by EmperorBevis
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CwrwAmByth

United Kingdom (Wales)

3.85/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle #3 of Sainsbury's Beer Hunt 2011! Poured from a 500ml bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a black/very dark reddy brown colour, decent cream coloured head and good lacing.

Smells overall malty and burnt.

Tastes quite refreshing, the balance between malts and hops leans more towards the malts, though a nice hoppy bitter sweetness is their on the finish.

Overall quite a good stout, better than guinness anyway.

Serving type: bottle

09-09-2011 18:51:27 | More by CwrwAmByth
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Kahlerbock

Kansas

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

02-21-2012 15:31:37 | More by Kahlerbock
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Bouleboubier

Pennsylvania

3.48/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this on tap at a Shelton Bros event during Phila Beer Week. Thought it was from cask the way it was presented - filled to the brim of the glass, flat and still. Sipped it down slowly - very clean and thin in body and taste. Lightly sour/acidic coffee roast flavor, no chocolaty undertones, no hops, little discernible malt flavor. Every so often, I gave it a swirl - absolutely no carbonation. Not sure if that's the norm with this, but it certainly affected the feel, smell (which was super weak, coffee/malt-syrup sweet), and possibly flavor.

It's a decent stout, arguably a porter. It was black, showing rusty red with a half sip left. I'd give it another shot at some point, but I'd consider it a semi-bland table beer.

Serving type: on-tap

06-11-2011 15:35:56 | More by Bouleboubier
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Tiernan

Texas

4/5  rDev +6.7%

04-17-2013 01:37:58 | More by Tiernan
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kevgod

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +6.7%

01-07-2012 17:40:48 | More by kevgod
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valkyre65

Texas

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

12-11-2011 11:44:29 | More by valkyre65
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meatyard

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

01-19-2012 02:24:23 | More by meatyard
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standardcherry

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev 0%

09-18-2012 01:33:20 | More by standardcherry
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hopley

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev 0%

06-16-2014 12:50:58 | More by hopley
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jondeelee

Massachusetts

3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bad King John sports a medium-heavy nose, full of complex aromas that begin with cognac and Irish Cream, and move from there into more subtle hints of caramel, apple, and chocolate malt.

On the tongue, the beer is less flavorful than the nose would imply, but still bears a good amount of malty goodness, with caramels, fresh-baked breads, and a good smattering of chocolate malts dominating. Very subtle hints of tobacco and ash rest beneath the surface, and the whole brew has a creamy texture, much like milk or a good oatmeal stout. The aftertaste is predominantly darker flavors, such as chocolate malt and ash, and lasts for a while. Subsequent mouthfuls result in a slightly diminished taste profile. Mouthfeel is quite light for a black ale--medium-light on the larger scale--and carbonation is medium.

Overall, I found the flavors in this brew good, but was disappointed in not only what I thought was a missed opportunity at larger flavors, but also thicker mouthfeel. Still, this might be a good introduction to black ales for newcomers, as it does provide all of the requisite flavors, albeit in a lighter format.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2011 03:06:42 | More by jondeelee
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WYVYRN527

Minnesota

3.93/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This brew pours very dark brown, but some light still shines through. Head is light tan and not very thick, although lacing is decent.
The smell has some characteristics of a stout. Some coffee and chocolate, as well as caramel. Taste is much better. Roasty, with chocolate and coffee, and hops give the beer a pleasant, bitter finish.
Mouthfeel is a bit thin, and not as creamy as I would have liked it to be. Overall, though, it is rather smooth. This beer is drinkable by all means. I wouldn't really call it a stout, however. More of an English Strong Dark Ale.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2010 05:07:07 | More by WYVYRN527
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dedrinker

Kansas

3.45/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Darkest wood veneer with a thin white-ish head.

Faint aroma of roasted malts and some hints of dark fruit.

The flavor was a light roasty malt with some bitterness. I would say that if it was a little dark chocolate and black coffee I perceived, then it was an inferior brand of chocolate and coffee - Hershey's and Maxwell House instant.

Not bad though overall, just a lot less than I was being lead to expect.

Medium/full body with a dry, lightly burnt malt bitterness on the finish.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2010 06:35:31 | More by dedrinker
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nick76

Florida

2.63/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

The aroma is like burnt malt with cream and coffee. The appearance is black with an average head. The flavor is like the aroma. The palate is too thin for a stout. I am not very fond of this one. I can't really say that there is any one fault with this one. Overall it's just not that good.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2009 03:53:00 | More by nick76
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gfreed

Massachusetts

3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It seems to me that the good brewers at Ridgeway have been trading copy-editing notes with their counterparts at Stone. The over-the-top blather on the label has nothing to do with the beer inside the bottle. This beer is most definitely *not* big and bad, black and bitter, or anything near "ruthless." It is, however, subtle and tasty. The ruby color is inviting; the roasted aroma is appealing, and the taste is complex without requiring too much contemplation or philosophy to decode. The body is surprisingly thin for the style, however, and for that I think Ridgeway should have their collective heads mounted on pikes.

Well, not really.

This beer is worth bringing home, but be wary of the marketeers.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 22:03:34 | More by gfreed
Bad King John from Ridgeway Brewing
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