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W'12 Dark Saison - Widmer Brothers Brewing Company

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W'12 Dark SaisonW'12 Dark Saison

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267 Ratings
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Ratings: 267
Reviews: 117
rAvg: 3.41
pDev: 15.54%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Widmer Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Availability: Spring (2012)
Bitterness: 25 IBU
Alcohol by Volume: 5.5%

Original Gravity: 11.75 Plato
Malts: 2-Row Pale, White Wheat, Caramel 120L, Vienna, Dark Chocolate
Hops: Alchemy, Saaz

(Beer added by: leedorham on 12-31-2011)
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Reviews by djbreezy:
Photo of djbreezy
3.65/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - transparent copper hue, light retention, light lace

Smell - faint but sweet and dark fruit notes

Taste - banana, dates, sweet fruit

Mouthfeel - light, watery

Overall - not sure what they were going for here, just tinting an average saison with cracked malts? that's not to say its not good but it's not outstanding either

More User Reviews:
Photo of ExtraStout
3/5  rDev -12%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I had the Dark Saison in a pint.

Appearance- The head is not as large or chunky as most saisons I have tried. It maybe hits a half finger of white fizz before barely getting full coverage of the cap.

The body is a pretty and transparent ruby-copper. Only a few strings of slow moving carbonation are noticed in the beer.

Smell- Soft and earthy yeast is at the forefront of the nose. Maybe a little tangy citrus is also appreciated, a lemon scent one second and an orange scent the next. There is a peppery quality here too. No real dark malt can be found. It is reminds me of a saison/wit combo.

Taste- A hint of cream corn and earthy yeast come right away, making the best case for this having a saison base. It also showcases that pepper-spice alongside some faint fruity qualities, like a combo of lemon and pear.

The finish is very interesting with the roasted malt and slight cocoa finally coming into play. It is a signature finish to what was just an "all-right" tasting saision. Let me stress how light these flavors are though. Would be much better if it were amped a bit.

Mouth feel- The medium to light body is made better by the creamy carbonation. This really helps the beer finish smooth and clean. The finish would be hurt without it.

Overall- I do not know if saison drinkers will really get behind this beer. I think Widmer has crafted a good beer with just a hint of dark malt and wit characteristics.

I think they advertise it to have a more pronounced dark malt presence than what there actually is, and in a way, that is disappointing. But I can't argue with how easy this beer is to drink.

If you don't worry about what this beer was supposed to be, and have a palate for saisons, you could do worse.

Photo of Guden
3.73/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - A medium amber body with a red tint and amazing clarity. Lots of little carbonation bubbles rise up into the small but long lasting off white head. I expected this to be darker based on the name is the biggest flaw.

S- Candy, both toffee and gummy worms, are the first thing to hit the nose. These mingle with earthy and funky yeast character and some spicy hops.

T- The taste is surprisingly different from the nose. While there is a bit of sweet candy character its balanced with a moderate hop spiciness and a noticeable but mild bitterness that stays on the tongue a bit longer than the other flavors. It's tasty and a little different but seems all a bit subdued.

M- Moderately dry with some creaminess and moderate carbonation, seems a little fuller in the mouth than most saisons but with the dark grains it works.

D- This beer is very drinkable but isn't quite what I was looking for. It's a bit like an English brown ale that was made with saaz hops and saison yeast, sweet and fairly mild but with those added layers of complexity.

Photo of Billolick
3.3/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

32 ounce growler filled at Green Growler Grocery in Croton-on-Hudson, NY

Pours medium chocolate amber, under a loose light tan head that does stay around for a while, slight film, slim collar and minor but fine lace.

Yeasty, with fruits (bananas mostly) and mild pepper on the nose.

On the light/near watery side mouthfeel wise.

Notes of light chocolate, more fruity yeast, with ripe bananas, again some pepper adds to the mix. A slight mettalic/plastic not also is noted, not too pleasant.

Far from a fine saison, this one seems a bit off to me....try at your own risk, or go for one other hundreds of better saisons out there..

Photo of Mora2000
2.93/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a clear medium to dark brown color with a white head. The aroma has some orange citrus notes, as well as some Belgian yeast and spice. There is also a hint of toffee. The flavor is a little bit medicinal. I get some pepper and orange citrus, as well as some yeast and toffee and biscuit malt. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of jondeelee
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

W’12 Dark Saison opens with a lovely Saison-style nose, full of bananas, cloves, funky spices, yeasty bread dough, and lovely fruits. The funky spice notes are immediately apparent, with cloves dominating the profile, and subtler touches of pepper and coriander beneath. The fruits are surprisingly spritzy and light, with orange zest and white grape mainly present. As a whole, the nose is well balanced and enticing, though the “dark” part of the beer’s name--which would seem to connote more ashy flavors--isn’t immediately present; only touches of fig and grape seem to fit the moniker.

On the tongue, the beer opens with a banana, clove, and coriander shot, followed immediately by a small touch of ash and wood. The darker notes here are quite light--nowhere near the intensity of even a porter--but play off of the fruits and spices quite well. Other flavors include brown sugar, orange, grapefruit zest, lemon zest, and an assortment of whole grain breads and toast crust. The aftertaste is lingering banana and spicy pepper, with remnants of bread, as well as an alcoholic vapor of medium strength, and fades with moderate quickness. Mouthfeel is medium-light, and carbonation is medium.

Overall, this is good fare, and the subtle ashy layer that underpins the spice and fruit is a neat touch. The beer, however, comes across just a bit too light and watery in both taste and mouthfeel (though I recognize this is characteristic of the style). The 5.5% ABV does make it an ideal summer beer candidate, and the flavors would be quite welcome on a hot day.

Photo of JohnLynch
3/5  rDev -12%

Photo of heather625
2.5/5  rDev -26.7%

Photo of Sargully
2/5  rDev -41.3%

Photo of TheSixthRing
3.75/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a semi-clear ruby amber with an off-white finger width head. Retention is good, leaving behind a healthy, sticky lace.

Smell - Belgian yeast qualities on the nose, overripe banana, brown sugar, a touch of clove and caramel.

Taste - Predominately Belgian yeast flavors; slightly sour with hints of banana and clove. Faint caramel notes come into play mid flavor. Finishes slightly spicy with a mellow banana fade, and a slight metallic twang.

Mouthfeel - A touch watery. Decent carbonation, but not enough to save a fairly disappointing body.

Overall - A pretty good effort from Widmer here. Not sure how this constitutes as being a dark saison, but it's a good one regardless.

Photo of ChopperSmith
3.35/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz. brown bottle into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Clear deep brown with a reddish tint, a one finger tan foam head that faded quick and left light lacing.

Smell: Slight sweet malt and yeast fruit aromas. Very subtle.

Taste: Like it smells, sweet malts with a yeast profile that offers dark fruits like plums and raisins. Also a little hops to balance. None of the flavors seem prominent enough and are all a little watered down.

Mouth feel: Light to medium body with average carbonation.

Overall: If they bumped up the alcohol and yeasts, this would be similar to a decent Belgian Dark Ale...as it is, it comes across as a light version of that. Not bad, just a little lacking and too light on everything for my tastes.

Photo of tdm168
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark amber with a thin layer of soft, white head that quickly fades away. The nose has is faint and is dominated by some Belgian yeast and light spices. The flavor is lightly malty with faint notes of caramel. The taste is dominated by yeasty, peppery, spicy notes. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, smooth, but a little heavily carbonated.

This is an easy dirnking, Belgian-style ale. The flavor isn't anything to write home about but it's interesting. I probably won't seek it out again, but it was worth a try once.

Photo of secondtooth
3.95/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A creative melding of a Belgian saison and a roasty-malted dark ale, this intriguing brew pours a rusty amber with a nice head and superb lace.

Nose is caramel and candied fruit. Promising!

Taste is fruity and yeasty, with a hint of roast at the finish. Very much in the saison tradition, but with a tasty and enjoyable twist. I really liked this one.

Photo of socon67
3.28/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark copper pour, some lacing, and good foam retantion.

S - Smell of belgian yeast, earthy spices, and fresh grains.

T - Only okay. The balance seemed a bit out of whack. Didn't have that crisp flavor typical of a good saison.

M - Decent drinking beer, but after a while the flavor seemed bland.

O - Wouldn't try it again. Was curious about a dark saison, but this almost seemed like it really wasn't to the style.

Photo of cjgator3
3.13/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle

A- Poured into a tulip glass. Pours a dark brown color with an off-white head.

S- The aroma is fruity malt, caramel, bananas, and Belgian yeast.

T- The taste like the aroma has some malt up front along with banana, spices and yeast. 

M- The mouthfeel is light bodied with a high amount of carbonation.

O- Overall, this one fell short for me. I was excited about the concept of the beer but it was just lacking. This beer in not bad by any means, but it is merely on the average side.

Photo of Cooper
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of avisong
2.75/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of cliff1066
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Fatehunter
3.9/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a goblet. Thin head layer on top of a copper, transparent body.

Complex smell: raisins, apples and wet malt.

Sweet tasting, harsh bitterness midway to balance the sweetness. Dried fruit, plum.

Thinner body and moderate carbonation.

A good take on a Dark Saison.

Photo of bconsidine
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of jheezee
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Bdel34
3.75/5  rDev +10%

Photo of russpowell
3.55/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a chill hazed orange with a sliver of tan head. Average lacing & good head retention

S: Green apple peel & cinnamon, some perfumy notes as well

T: Follows the nose, faint grassy, lemony & woody hops up front. Appleskins, pears & grassy hops as this warms. Finishes fruitty, grassy & with a slight apple juice sweetness

MF: Light bodied, firm carbonation

Held up well for a 4 month old beer, but nothing special. Nice trainig wheels saisin I suppose

Photo of TheMrFarnham
4/5  rDev +17.3%

Photo of flayedandskinned
3.25/5  rDev -4.7%

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W'12 Dark Saison from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 267 ratings.