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W'12 Dark Saison - Widmer Brothers Brewing Company

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W'12 Dark SaisonW'12 Dark Saison

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Reviews: 117
Hads: 268
Avg: 3.41
pDev: 15.54%
Wants: 2
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Widmer Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: leedorham on 12-31-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Availability: Spring (2012)
Bitterness: 25 IBU
Alcohol by Volume: 5.5%

Original Gravity: 11.75 Plato
Malts: 2-Row Pale, White Wheat, Caramel 120L, Vienna, Dark Chocolate
Hops: Alchemy, Saaz
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Reviews: 117 | Hads: 268
Photo of ccrida
4.12/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pale caramel color with an off-white head leaving nice lace.

Smell is estery, spice and tropical fruit, some caramel fruit as well. Nice brightness, yet classic mineral pithe.

Taste is similar, esters more clove-like, a little yeasty flavor as well as some biscuit malt. Snappy herbal finish.

Mouthfeel is dry, medium light bodied.

Drinkability is pretty good. The name implies this is some kind of hybrid saison, but the caramel is well with in the classic style range. Reminds me of saison silly (which I admit I haven't had in years).

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Photo of barczar
3.82/5  rDev +12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear amber color with a frothy half inch cream head that dissipates somewhat quickly, leaving no lacing.

Wine-like sourness, a bit of musty funk, and coriander comprise the aroma initially, with belgian yeast esters finishing up. The caramel malt backbone is pretty sweet.

Belgian yeast dominates, with esters carrying throughout. Notes of tangerines, pears, and sour orange are accompanied by coriander and clove. Malt lends a bit of toasted bread character, but is fairly subtle. There's underlying hints of funk...hay and barnyard.

Body is moderate, but the high carbonation lightens the mouthfeel.

Overall, a very complex brew. The darker malts didn't really shine, but that yeast added lots of character. Not to style, as it lacks dryness, but I like it.

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Photo of Durge
3.6/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Found at My Place in Newtown, CT this stuff is a semi- transluscent brown color with a nice light tan head and lots of lacing. The aroma is sweet brown sugar with toasted wheat bread and chocolate, and just a hint of pineapple clove. Not bad. The flavor brings a thin malt brown bread and a touch of bubblegum and light coffee and tea nuances. Despite a “tiny bubbled, but adequate”, carbonation it has a bit of a limp feel. Not bad but forgettable.

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Photo of twiggamortis420
3.62/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle pours a clear copper color with a creamy cap of tan head. Decent retention and lacing.

Nose shows off a fair amount of yeast esters with bubblegum and banana leading the charge. Toasty caramel comprise the malt aromas. Smells pretty good actually.

Taste does not quite follow through with the same class as the nose, but still not half bad. The toasty malt with a touch of honey blends pretty well with a mild yeast and a dry hop finish. Its more earthy than I like to see in a saison, and the yeast is too clean. While I was happy with half a sixer, I dont really think I would want to buy again.

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Photo of Bung
2.96/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. darker amber pour, light cream head, roughly a fingers worth.

Aroma, light yeast and toasted malt. Faint fruitiness? Not much going on really.

Taste is a little better. Some yeasty spice, clove. A kind of watered down malt, apple, pear.

Drinks easy. Carbonation is fine, lighter body. Pretty thin. An uber gateway Saison possibly, otherwise pretty meh.

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Photo of jzeilinger
2.53/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Pours a hazlenut color, minimal head that dies off quick, no carbonation, and a very thin lacing ring - looks more like a barleywine by the color.

S - Faded aroma, light Belgian funk, bready light carmel malt, cloves, and a little bit of spice.

T - Banana, cloves, spice, bready caramel malt, light funky earth.

M - Thick, biscuity/bready, and malty for a saison. Mellow carbonation on the palette.

O - I feel like I'm drinking a dark German wheat beer with a slight bit of tart funk. Had it been called something else and not a Saison I may have reviewed it differently.

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.91/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a goblet. Thin head layer on top of a copper, transparent body.

Complex smell: raisins, apples and wet malt.

Sweet tasting, harsh bitterness midway to balance the sweetness. Dried fruit, plum.

Thinner body and moderate carbonation.

A good take on a Dark Saison.

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Photo of KTCamm
3.79/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a medium dark brown with no foam. Completely clear atop. Funky farmhouse smell. Bubblegum. Maybe subtle cola. Lots going on.

Malty citrus taste. Strange/different hop bitter close. Light carbonation but enough to drive the flavor to the right level. Nicely blended saison, tasty with a bunch of things going on.

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Photo of harrymel
2.95/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottled 14DEC11

Pours a red amber with some white foam. Less carb in appearance than most in the style. Excellent clarity. The yeast comes up in the nose spicy and sweet with a wheat like character. Every so often I get a hint of honeydew in the nose. Some grassy flavor.

A bit sharply grainy initially with some peppercorn and a lemony finish. The grain is pronounced with a good sweet flavor. The "saison" flavor is classic and simple. Not a top contender by any means. I'm also not getting anything (maybe a hint of toasty flavor) from the dark malts used.

Mouthfeel is medium light as expected but the carb is just a hint low for the style (which is good IMO). I actually like a hair more body for the sweetness displayed.

It's a decent beer, especially at the price point, but likely the last time I will have it.

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Photo of flexabull
3.67/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark and clear amber color with a thin white head.

Aromas are spicy, some yeast, dark bread, hard candies, and grass. Smells pretty nice.

Taste is bready, nutty, light cola, banana and of spicy yeast. Some hard candy sweetness, light sourness, and a bit of a grassy quality. Finish is crisp with light mineral hop bitterness.

Mouthfeel is smooth, lighter body, about right for the style.

Overall this is a pretty unique and above average beer. Worth trying, but not really something I'd want to drink more than one of in a sitting.

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Photo of ngeunit1
3.8/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a fairly clear amber-red with a finger of frothy white head. The head fades down at a normal pace leaving behind some light lace.

S - Aroma is a mix of toasted caramel and brady malts with some Belgian yeast, coriander, clove, and a touch of citrus.

T - Starts off with some toasted sweet caramel malts with some Belgian yeast flavors and a bit of citrus. Through the middle, some bready malts come through with some coriander, clove, and other spices. The finish is a mix of sweet bready malts with some light spice, Belgian yeast, and citrus.

M - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Feels smooth with a sweet and dry finish.

D - Very drinkable. A bit thin, and not overly dark, but otherwise pretty okay. Very sessionable.

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Photo of buschbeer
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle
Served in a tulip glass

A - It is dark amber with amber highlights. It had a fleeting inch of beige head.

S - I get a little funk with some sour cherry. There's also a little soap smell in there.

T - I get more of that soap in the taste. The wild yeast also presents a slight funk. I also detect just a hint of roasted malt.

M - Medium with lots of carbonation.

O - It is a soapy beer with some funk.

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Photo of Pegasus
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Clear amber, with a modest white head, thin glass-coating lace, and very slight carbonation.

Aroma: Strong earthy notes, with almost a barnyard note, swith our hay, and decaying wood. There is also a slight note of dark fruit.

Taste: Notes of earthy, medicinal notes from start to finish. There are also moderate herbal hops, and a grassy undercurrent, and a faint note of sweet alcohol. Finishes with a lingering. slightly spicy hop note.

Mouth feel: smooth, sof, and quite pleasant.

Drinkability/notes: A decent and interesting example, worth a try.

Presentation: Packaged in a custom twelve-ounce brown glass bottle with a pry-off crown, served in a standard Pilsener glass.

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Photo of bubseymour
3.9/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

a - dark ruby brown and clear with 2 finger head. Moderate retention

s - very floral and spicy. Very nice smell.

t - A very light bodied yet flavorful beer. Belgian yeast are noticable with the spice, but also some fruity tart/sour notes as well that is very unique and pleasant. Slight hop crispness in finish.

m - a tad watery

o- A very nice summer beer option with lots of flavor and complexity if you are in the mood for something tart/sour. I enjoyed this beer and would purchase again.

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Photo of CHickman
3.47/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Lark in East Northport, NY: pours cloudy dark amber copper color with a 1 finger creamy tan head that faded and left minimal spotty lacing.

Smells of sweet malt, yeast, caramel, grains, brown sugar, grass, clove, banana and herbs or light spices; nose is soft with floral notes like hops or flowers in the mix.

Tastes of caramel, sweet malt, yeast, grains, brown sugar, grass, clove, wheat bread, banana, herbs or tea leaf, floral hops, fruits that are almost sour like pear or apple, spices like coriander, pepper, cinnamon and allspice, and a potpourri essence; initial taste is good and then the flavor trails off a little weird, but not so offensive that it's bad - just a little off.

Mouthfeel is smooth and on the crisp side, with light zesty carbonation, a medium body and an herbal feel that seems like it's thicker than it is, with a tart fruity finish.

Nice effort and good flavor from a US brewer in this style, which gives this extra points. I'll overlook the strange flavor part since this was OK overall and went down easy enough. Nothing special, but not bad either – a flip of a coin type of beer. I’d try it again, perhaps out of a bottle to see how that tastes.

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Photo of socon67
3.32/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark copper pour, some lacing, and good foam retantion.

S - Smell of belgian yeast, earthy spices, and fresh grains.

T - Only okay. The balance seemed a bit out of whack. Didn't have that crisp flavor typical of a good saison.

M - Decent drinking beer, but after a while the flavor seemed bland.

O - Wouldn't try it again. Was curious about a dark saison, but this almost seemed like it really wasn't to the style.

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Photo of jsprain1
3.18/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A- Looks more or like with a brown ale, with a red-brown color. Head is thin and does not retain well. Some lacing.
S- The aroma is pretty mild but has a light sweetness on the nose. A bit of spicyness. A faint charred aroma. Really having the strain to pick them out.
T- It tastes essentially like an average saison with some spice and light phenolic flavors. There is a bit of char in the finish, with a lightly sweet underpinning.
M- It seemed dry at first but it does linger a bit. Body is a bit light. Fairly crisp carbonation.
O- It's a cool idea, but in the end it just tasted like a weak dunkelweizen.

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Photo of gatornation
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle part of a mix sixer

A- pours a clear dark copper color with 1 finger tan head and minimal lacing

S- was sweet malts, candied sugar dark fruits and yeat

T was dark fruits with a sweet and sour funk some spice and yeast

M-is creamy smooth with medium carbonation fruit and funk

O- tasted like a hybrid dubbel to me lots of ruit and sugar bread it was drinkable but not great

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Photo of secondtooth
3.95/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A creative melding of a Belgian saison and a roasty-malted dark ale, this intriguing brew pours a rusty amber with a nice head and superb lace.

Nose is caramel and candied fruit. Promising!

Taste is fruity and yeasty, with a hint of roast at the finish. Very much in the saison tradition, but with a tasty and enjoyable twist. I really liked this one.

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Photo of bmwats
3.38/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a standard pint.

A: Medium-dark brown. Pours about a finger and a half, frothy, brown-white head. Settles quickly, leaving a thick foam blanket and a beer ring. Sporadic lacing.

S: Hickory and sourdough.

T: Light woody flavor of light hearty grains and tea leaves.

M: Light but hearty feel. Light flavor, and subtle non-distinct aftertaste.

D: Goes down easy.

Atmosphere is decent. Dark hue with a frothy head and only sporadic lacing. Nose is subtle woody grain. Flavor follows suit with a soft woody grainy feel, complimented by some fresh tea. Overall, this is a pretty good quaff.

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Photo of ckollias
3.56/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed this 12oz bottle out of a large snifter glass.

A: Pours a dark amber-brown hue with a thin, 2-finger, white head that quickly dissipates in to a wispy lace, leaving a nice trail down the glass.

S: Sweet malty aroma with a dark fruit background and slightly yeasty.

T: Sweet crisp caramel and dark fruit flavor that finishes very clean.

M: Medium body and medium carbonation.

O: Decent saison ale – a little too sweet for me – but it was enjoyable and went down easy.

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Photo of Omnium
3.82/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle > Pint Glass
A - Pours a darker copper hue, very little head, no lacing, This is an older bottle, but I've had it many times in 2012.
S - Nice complex smell, lots of belgian scents coming out of this, bubblegum oddly, some roasted coffee beans, spices and herbs, a light grapefruit peel smell.
T - You kinda feel the spices pop in this, a mild tart flavor of citrus, some nutty malts, and a little yeast.
M - I dont remember it having that bubble gum flavor linger, but now it certainly is, still gets a sourness and complex spice flavor.
O - I thought this was a pretty good beer, I know a lot thought it was garbage, but I enjoyed it, its a different kind of saison, one that was easily drinkable and had lots of unique qualities.

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Photo of bump8628
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark saison, I was thinking it would be on the brown spectrum, but it's more of an amber. Clove stands out the most. Behind that, nutmeg, cinnamon, and black pepper. Mild malt sweetness, mellow carbonation, barely burnt caramel, and bread crust. Lightly spicy hops. Pretty decent beer, but not really saison-like. There is an emerging earthy dirtiness as it warms up. Just call it a Belgian-style amber ale or something, I guess.

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Photo of StaveHooks
3.01/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle served in a Tripel Karmeliet tulip.

A - Pours a beautiful clear ruby color with a frothy off-white head. Average lacing.

S - Bananas and clove are the first things to hit the nose, pear, apples, wheat bread, faint bubblegum when warmed to room temperature.

T - Follows the nose with banana, clove, pepper, some sugary pear, candy syrup sweetness, wheat bread. Yeasty, and a tiny hint of peppery alcohol on the finish.

M - Medium body, low to medium carbonation.

Very tasty brew. Good flavors and inviting aroma make this an enjoyable brew. But, style wise this goes against the grain of a Saison.
This is more of Dunkelweizen than a Saison.

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Photo of shand
2.84/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Sam Adams perfect pint.

This beer pours a garnet red with a small head. The aroma is sweet - yeasty and clove-y. Ack! My worst enemies. The taste isn't that bad though, there's a lot of stuff going on here. Surely the yeast, banana and clove flavors are strong, but there's a decent amount of malt here baking things up. Nothing to really make me want to take another sip, but it could surely be someone else's bag. Mouthfeel is smooth, and the drinkability is alright. Yet another saison that's not really my bag. I wish I could say I've never met a saison I liked so I could stop giving them occasional tries, but that wouldn't be completely true.

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W'12 Dark Saison from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 117 ratings.