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W'12 Dark Saison - Widmer Brothers Brewing Company

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W'12 Dark SaisonW'12 Dark Saison

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263 Ratings
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Ratings: 263
Reviews: 117
rAvg: 3.41
pDev: 15.54%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Widmer Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
Availability: Spring (2012)
Bitterness: 25 IBU
Alcohol by Volume: 5.5%

Original Gravity: 11.75 Plato
Malts: 2-Row Pale, White Wheat, Caramel 120L, Vienna, Dark Chocolate
Hops: Alchemy, Saaz

(Beer added by: leedorham on 12-31-2011)
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cletetron

British Columbia (Canada)

3.75/5  rDev +10%

05-20-2012 20:50:04 | More by cletetron
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Zorro

California

3.35/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Clear dark amber to light brown colored ale with a small tan colored head.

Smell is intensely spicy and fruity. Caramel apples and pepper with a little menthol.

Starts out fruity apple with a lot of caramel taste. Mild bitterness. Sweet with some pepper in the finish.

Mouthfeel is about average.

Overall too sweet for the style.

Serving type: bottle

05-20-2012 05:43:11 | More by Zorro
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fehrminator

North Carolina

2.5/5  rDev -26.7%

05-19-2012 19:02:40 | More by fehrminator
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KTCamm

New Jersey

3.8/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a medium dark brown with no foam. Completely clear atop. Funky farmhouse smell. Bubblegum. Maybe subtle cola. Lots going on.

Malty citrus taste. Strange/different hop bitter close. Light carbonation but enough to drive the flavor to the right level. Nicely blended saison, tasty with a bunch of things going on.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2012 19:01:45 | More by KTCamm
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russpowell

Oklahoma

3.55/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a chill hazed orange with a sliver of tan head. Average lacing & good head retention

S: Green apple peel & cinnamon, some perfumy notes as well

T: Follows the nose, faint grassy, lemony & woody hops up front. Appleskins, pears & grassy hops as this warms. Finishes fruitty, grassy & with a slight apple juice sweetness

MF: Light bodied, firm carbonation

Held up well for a 4 month old beer, but nothing special. Nice trainig wheels saisin I suppose

Serving type: bottle

05-18-2012 02:41:01 | More by russpowell
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avisong

Virginia

2.75/5  rDev -19.4%

05-18-2012 02:31:36 | More by avisong
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Slatetank

Pennsylvania

3.6/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this up in a mix six, poured into a goblet chilled, shared with tenderbranson69.

The color is mildly hazed caramel with some bronze shades with a thick cream cap that settles to a ring of white. The bead is fine and carbonation is visible. The smell is very yeasty with a slight phenolic tinge with slight spice and mild clove with a mellow malt accent. The feel is pretty good with a gentle bitterness and mild malt sweetness with mostly dry body which is medium heavy with slight creaminess and moderate carbonation.

A taste of dried fruit and slight spice with some dark bread and light pepper in the tertiary. The flavor has a lot of yeast presence which is slightly peppery and adds a hint of tangy tropical flavor to the saison. There is a light taste of ripe banana and the mild toast notes accent the herbal nutty and spiced flavors. Overall I enjoyed drinking this, but it doesn't stand out as far as other saisons on the dark side of the spectrum for me.

Serving type: bottle

05-14-2012 13:54:31 | More by Slatetank
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Blargimus

Colorado

3/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into tulip. Bottled on 12/14/2011.

Pours about how you would expect an amber ale to look, maybe slightly darker. 2 fingers of fluffy white head. Not bad looking.

Smells eerily like a saison. It's the same cognitive dissonance you get when you smell a black IPA. A little yeasty, a little malty, a touch of sourness. Quite pleasant.

Taste is a little disappointing. There's a yeastiness to start off, followed by a bit of roasted flavor near the end, but there's not a lot of depth. The aftertaste, however, is quite bad. Stale, almost. Blech.

Mouthfeel is fairly dry and thin, but it is a saison, after all. No complaints.

Overall, this is something I'd happily drink if given to me, but wouldn't buy again.

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2012 22:59:11 | More by Blargimus
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hopfacebrew

Colorado

3.35/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Finally bought a six pack as the weather turned a little cold and this looked perfect. Poured from bottle dated 2/27/12 to NBB globe the beer arrives a translucent ruby brown with a small 1/3 finger white cap that quickly fades to a slight film with some lacing. The nose is a disappointment. Sharp and astringent. Almost vinegar in nature with very little saison character. The flavor improves with a mild saison yeast that blends fairly well with a toaste caramel flavor. Mildly bitter with a lingering toasty flavor. Crisp, almost too much so. The mouthfeel suffers as a result, not reminiscent of a saison. Overall this is fairly average which is unfortunate as I had high expectations. Not bad but nothing glorious.

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2012 15:54:42 | More by hopfacebrew
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craig220


3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

05-09-2012 21:58:37 | More by craig220
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avalon07

South Carolina

2.93/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a copper color and a clear consistency. There was an inch and a half of foamy, fairly long-lasting head. Very good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of fruit, malt, and little bit of spices.

T: Tasted of malt, light citrus notes, cloves, some yeast, and an unwelcome grassy quality. Even without this last quality, the flavor would be a thin, watery, unfocused mess.

M: A good amount of carbonation here, but it has an unpleasant medicinal quality in the finish. Medium-bodied.

O: Not what I would call a great beer. Could have been better than it was.

Serving type: bottle

05-09-2012 12:20:43 | More by avalon07
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Underdogbisco

Utah

4.5/5  rDev +32%

05-09-2012 04:14:41 | More by Underdogbisco
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Profchaos20

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -12%

05-08-2012 21:48:27 | More by Profchaos20
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timwardjr

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

05-07-2012 15:48:44 | More by timwardjr
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GTB

North Carolina

2.5/5  rDev -26.7%

05-06-2012 11:48:17 | More by GTB
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HumphreyLee

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +24.6%

05-06-2012 06:15:24 | More by HumphreyLee
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dmadsen

Minnesota

3.65/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a great, deep color. Amber, almost brown. There is a light head with light lacing. The smell is great. Very robust. Strong flavor, there are a lot of elements to it. Fruit, smoky, bit of remaining sourness on the end. Good mouthfeel, stays on the tongue. A bit of carbonation.

Not very familiar with Saison, so I couldn't compare to other strong versions of the style. Overall, a good beer with good flavor. This came in a sampler pack. I'd think twice about 5 more for the right price, but not 11.

Serving type: bottle

05-05-2012 03:46:39 | More by dmadsen
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hoplover82

Texas

3.28/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Pours a solid 2 finger with a vigerous pour into a Duvel chalis. Excellent lacing and head retention.
S-The aroma is of bready malts and green apples and green grapes. Subtle spice notes like nutmeg and cinnamin. Very faint noble hop notes. Very pleasant nose indeed.
T-This is where I think the beer fails. The taste is very bland at first with some mild astringency. Then as the beer warms, it gets a little better. The green apples and grapes come in to play along with the bready malts, but it still is nothing in light of the aroma. The spice notes come in on the finish. I don't know what it is, but the flavor just really dissapoints me.
M-The mouthfeel has a crisp, medium body with a mild dry finish. Good amount of carbonation for the style.
O-My overall impression is, for the style it's truly average. I think if they firmented this beer at a higher temp, the esthers would have come out more and would've turned out better.

Serving type: bottle

05-04-2012 01:27:43 | More by hoplover82
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kscaldef

Oregon

3.2/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours dark amber, with a small uneven head. Not much lacing.

S: mild clove, caramel, a note of some lighter fruit, perhaps strawberry. Also, I'm occasionally getting something of a musty, wet-dog smell.

T: A little sweetness and solid biscuit malts. A mild orange caramel finish. A mild saison / farmhouse earthiness throughout.

M: Medium-light body, very easy drinking. Good carbonation and a pleasant linger.

O: Thoroughly average beer. I don't regret buying a 6-pack of it, but wouldn't necessarily seek it out again. Worth a try, though.

Serving type: bottle

05-03-2012 03:00:35 | More by kscaldef
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jheezee

Texas

3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

05-01-2012 21:02:05 | More by jheezee
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Beer4Baltimore

Maryland

3.33/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12ounce bottles poured into a 22 ounce glass.
2012 bottling date
A - coppery caramel with a thin little head and a small bit of lacing. Does not look very bubbly.
S - faint lemon grass aroma mixed with a sweet caramel malt.
T - again the light lemon grass comes through but is drowned by the caramel malt. A little touch of sour but not really an earthy tang like a saison should have.
M - somewhat sweet and sticky despite being relatively thin bodied and a bit undercarbonated.
D - not an easy drinker for a Saison and not worth the effort to find again.
It just doesn't have the Saison qualities that I like. Reminds me of sour brown ale without the heaviness.

Serving type: bottle

04-30-2012 23:50:33 | More by Beer4Baltimore
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

2.45/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

16 ounce pint - $6.50 at Taco Mac in Canton, Georgia.

Appearance: Lightly hazed, dark coppery-brown body with a half inch of near white foam depositing creamyish lace on the descent.

Smell: Grainy, spiced nose atop pale malts with a cautious sniff of a discarded fruity bubble gum wrapper. It's lacking, it's unappealing. Waiter!

Taste: Grainy-tasting toasted pale malts, also with a little smidge of wheat. Then, a generous helping of ground peppery spices and a taste like stale strawberry-flavored chewing gum. Lightly hopped, some bitterness. Semi-dry, chewing gum finish. Check, please!

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Just a hair above medium carbonation.

Overall: I was in the mood for a good, albeit dark saison and this just didn't deliver. At all. Actually, it didn't feel particularly saisonesque.

Serving type: on-tap

04-28-2012 16:08:18 | More by ChainGangGuy
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gatornation

Minnesota

3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle part of a mix sixer

A- pours a clear dark copper color with 1 finger tan head and minimal lacing

S- was sweet malts, candied sugar dark fruits and yeat

T was dark fruits with a sweet and sour funk some spice and yeast

M-is creamy smooth with medium carbonation fruit and funk

O- tasted like a hybrid dubbel to me lots of ruit and sugar bread it was drinkable but not great

Serving type: bottle

04-27-2012 22:11:40 | More by gatornation
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

3.4/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

not wild about this one, and it was given to me for free at a bottle shop, so that should say something. pours a dark red tinted copper color with a one inch tan head. aromas of stinky yeast, vienna malts, and burnt sugar. flavor has that saison tartness to it, but its very generic and uninspired, almost dead. the malt profile is decently complex, and i like the idea of darker saisons, but the yeast component is off in the beer. feel is well carbonated and lighter for the color, appropriate. overall not a beer i will buy again, but i appreciate the attempt at something different.

Serving type: bottle

04-27-2012 18:48:19 | More by StonedTrippin
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BeerAcolyte


3/5  rDev -12%

04-25-2012 16:28:30 | More by BeerAcolyte
W'12 Dark Saison from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 263 ratings.