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W'12 Dark Saison - Widmer Brothers Brewing Company

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W'12 Dark SaisonW'12 Dark Saison

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265 Ratings
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Ratings: 265
Reviews: 116
rAvg: 3.41
pDev: 15.54%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Widmer Brothers Brewing Company visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Availability: Spring (2012)
Bitterness: 25 IBU
Alcohol by Volume: 5.5%

Original Gravity: 11.75 Plato
Malts: 2-Row Pale, White Wheat, Caramel 120L, Vienna, Dark Chocolate
Hops: Alchemy, Saaz

(Beer added by: leedorham on 12-31-2011)
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Photo of tobelerone
3.48/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An interesting take on the farmhouse style that’s firmly on the sweeter and fruitier side of the ledger. It’s somewhat murky and dark brown, with a smallish head and patchy lacing. Bubble gum aroma laced with spices continues into the taste; lots of juicy fruit or bubblicous; reminded us of banana runts as well. Light spice phenols could have been more prominent to increase flavor interest; it’s a little one-dimensional overall. Decent caramel malt backbone.

Medium bodied with average carbonation. Lingering sweetness in the finish. Not something I’d seek out again. Not bad so much as unexceptional.

tobelerone, May 23, 2012
Photo of lyndzi28
1/5  rDev -70.7%

lyndzi28, May 22, 2012
Photo of NoLeafClover44
3.1/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass. Bottled on January 19, 2012.

A - Pours mahogany with significant ruby hues when held next to the light. About a finger of almond head that settles at a quarter inch. Spiderweb lacing. Hard to rate the appearance vs. other saisons, but I think it looks pretty good.

S - Pear, dark fruits, soda bread, molasses. Some Belgian aromas of banana, clove, and nutmeg but no funky Brett character here. I'm getting more Dubbel than Saison.

T - It is very tart, bordering on salty. Lemon, sea water, pear, and some biscuit malt. None of the sweetness from the nose comes through and there is very little flavor overall.

M - Light-medium body with decent carbonation.

O - I was intrigued by the prospect of a "dark IPA" but this was pretty disappointing. Lacked depth of flavor/complexity and quite literally left a bad taste in my mouth. I much prefer Tomfoolery in the dark saison category. I won't be getting this one again.

NoLeafClover44, May 22, 2012
Photo of cletetron
3.75/5  rDev +10%

cletetron, May 20, 2012
Photo of Zorro
3.35/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Clear dark amber to light brown colored ale with a small tan colored head.

Smell is intensely spicy and fruity. Caramel apples and pepper with a little menthol.

Starts out fruity apple with a lot of caramel taste. Mild bitterness. Sweet with some pepper in the finish.

Mouthfeel is about average.

Overall too sweet for the style.

Zorro, May 20, 2012
Photo of fehrminator
2.5/5  rDev -26.7%

fehrminator, May 19, 2012
Photo of KTCamm
3.8/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a medium dark brown with no foam. Completely clear atop. Funky farmhouse smell. Bubblegum. Maybe subtle cola. Lots going on.

Malty citrus taste. Strange/different hop bitter close. Light carbonation but enough to drive the flavor to the right level. Nicely blended saison, tasty with a bunch of things going on.

KTCamm, May 19, 2012
Photo of russpowell
3.55/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a chill hazed orange with a sliver of tan head. Average lacing & good head retention

S: Green apple peel & cinnamon, some perfumy notes as well

T: Follows the nose, faint grassy, lemony & woody hops up front. Appleskins, pears & grassy hops as this warms. Finishes fruitty, grassy & with a slight apple juice sweetness

MF: Light bodied, firm carbonation

Held up well for a 4 month old beer, but nothing special. Nice trainig wheels saisin I suppose

russpowell, May 18, 2012
Photo of avisong
2.75/5  rDev -19.4%

avisong, May 18, 2012
Photo of Slatetank
3.6/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this up in a mix six, poured into a goblet chilled, shared with tenderbranson69.

The color is mildly hazed caramel with some bronze shades with a thick cream cap that settles to a ring of white. The bead is fine and carbonation is visible. The smell is very yeasty with a slight phenolic tinge with slight spice and mild clove with a mellow malt accent. The feel is pretty good with a gentle bitterness and mild malt sweetness with mostly dry body which is medium heavy with slight creaminess and moderate carbonation.

A taste of dried fruit and slight spice with some dark bread and light pepper in the tertiary. The flavor has a lot of yeast presence which is slightly peppery and adds a hint of tangy tropical flavor to the saison. There is a light taste of ripe banana and the mild toast notes accent the herbal nutty and spiced flavors. Overall I enjoyed drinking this, but it doesn't stand out as far as other saisons on the dark side of the spectrum for me.

Slatetank, May 14, 2012
Photo of Blargimus
3/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into tulip. Bottled on 12/14/2011.

Pours about how you would expect an amber ale to look, maybe slightly darker. 2 fingers of fluffy white head. Not bad looking.

Smells eerily like a saison. It's the same cognitive dissonance you get when you smell a black IPA. A little yeasty, a little malty, a touch of sourness. Quite pleasant.

Taste is a little disappointing. There's a yeastiness to start off, followed by a bit of roasted flavor near the end, but there's not a lot of depth. The aftertaste, however, is quite bad. Stale, almost. Blech.

Mouthfeel is fairly dry and thin, but it is a saison, after all. No complaints.

Overall, this is something I'd happily drink if given to me, but wouldn't buy again.

Blargimus, May 11, 2012
Photo of hopfacebrew
3.35/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Finally bought a six pack as the weather turned a little cold and this looked perfect. Poured from bottle dated 2/27/12 to NBB globe the beer arrives a translucent ruby brown with a small 1/3 finger white cap that quickly fades to a slight film with some lacing. The nose is a disappointment. Sharp and astringent. Almost vinegar in nature with very little saison character. The flavor improves with a mild saison yeast that blends fairly well with a toaste caramel flavor. Mildly bitter with a lingering toasty flavor. Crisp, almost too much so. The mouthfeel suffers as a result, not reminiscent of a saison. Overall this is fairly average which is unfortunate as I had high expectations. Not bad but nothing glorious.

hopfacebrew, May 11, 2012
Photo of craig220
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

craig220, May 09, 2012
Photo of avalon07
2.93/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a copper color and a clear consistency. There was an inch and a half of foamy, fairly long-lasting head. Very good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of fruit, malt, and little bit of spices.

T: Tasted of malt, light citrus notes, cloves, some yeast, and an unwelcome grassy quality. Even without this last quality, the flavor would be a thin, watery, unfocused mess.

M: A good amount of carbonation here, but it has an unpleasant medicinal quality in the finish. Medium-bodied.

O: Not what I would call a great beer. Could have been better than it was.

avalon07, May 09, 2012
Photo of Underdogbisco
4.5/5  rDev +32%

Underdogbisco, May 09, 2012
Photo of Profchaos20
3/5  rDev -12%

Profchaos20, May 08, 2012
Photo of timwardjr
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

timwardjr, May 07, 2012
Photo of GTB
2.5/5  rDev -26.7%

GTB, May 06, 2012
Photo of HumphreyLee
4.25/5  rDev +24.6%

HumphreyLee, May 06, 2012
Photo of dmadsen
3.65/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a great, deep color. Amber, almost brown. There is a light head with light lacing. The smell is great. Very robust. Strong flavor, there are a lot of elements to it. Fruit, smoky, bit of remaining sourness on the end. Good mouthfeel, stays on the tongue. A bit of carbonation.

Not very familiar with Saison, so I couldn't compare to other strong versions of the style. Overall, a good beer with good flavor. This came in a sampler pack. I'd think twice about 5 more for the right price, but not 11.

dmadsen, May 05, 2012
Photo of hoplover82
3.28/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Pours a solid 2 finger with a vigerous pour into a Duvel chalis. Excellent lacing and head retention.
S-The aroma is of bready malts and green apples and green grapes. Subtle spice notes like nutmeg and cinnamin. Very faint noble hop notes. Very pleasant nose indeed.
T-This is where I think the beer fails. The taste is very bland at first with some mild astringency. Then as the beer warms, it gets a little better. The green apples and grapes come in to play along with the bready malts, but it still is nothing in light of the aroma. The spice notes come in on the finish. I don't know what it is, but the flavor just really dissapoints me.
M-The mouthfeel has a crisp, medium body with a mild dry finish. Good amount of carbonation for the style.
O-My overall impression is, for the style it's truly average. I think if they firmented this beer at a higher temp, the esthers would have come out more and would've turned out better.

hoplover82, May 04, 2012
Photo of kscaldef
3.2/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours dark amber, with a small uneven head. Not much lacing.

S: mild clove, caramel, a note of some lighter fruit, perhaps strawberry. Also, I'm occasionally getting something of a musty, wet-dog smell.

T: A little sweetness and solid biscuit malts. A mild orange caramel finish. A mild saison / farmhouse earthiness throughout.

M: Medium-light body, very easy drinking. Good carbonation and a pleasant linger.

O: Thoroughly average beer. I don't regret buying a 6-pack of it, but wouldn't necessarily seek it out again. Worth a try, though.

kscaldef, May 03, 2012
Photo of jheezee
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%

jheezee, May 01, 2012
Photo of Beer4Baltimore
3.33/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12ounce bottles poured into a 22 ounce glass.
2012 bottling date
A - coppery caramel with a thin little head and a small bit of lacing. Does not look very bubbly.
S - faint lemon grass aroma mixed with a sweet caramel malt.
T - again the light lemon grass comes through but is drowned by the caramel malt. A little touch of sour but not really an earthy tang like a saison should have.
M - somewhat sweet and sticky despite being relatively thin bodied and a bit undercarbonated.
D - not an easy drinker for a Saison and not worth the effort to find again.
It just doesn't have the Saison qualities that I like. Reminds me of sour brown ale without the heaviness.

Beer4Baltimore, May 01, 2012
Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.45/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

16 ounce pint - $6.50 at Taco Mac in Canton, Georgia.

Appearance: Lightly hazed, dark coppery-brown body with a half inch of near white foam depositing creamyish lace on the descent.

Smell: Grainy, spiced nose atop pale malts with a cautious sniff of a discarded fruity bubble gum wrapper. It's lacking, it's unappealing. Waiter!

Taste: Grainy-tasting toasted pale malts, also with a little smidge of wheat. Then, a generous helping of ground peppery spices and a taste like stale strawberry-flavored chewing gum. Lightly hopped, some bitterness. Semi-dry, chewing gum finish. Check, please!

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Just a hair above medium carbonation.

Overall: I was in the mood for a good, albeit dark saison and this just didn't deliver. At all. Actually, it didn't feel particularly saisonesque.

ChainGangGuy, Apr 28, 2012
W'12 Dark Saison from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 265 ratings.