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Dark Lord - George Bateman and Son Ltd. / Batemans Brewery

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Ratings: 41
Reviews: 32
rAvg: 3.54
pDev: 11.02%
Wants: 2
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
George Bateman and Son Ltd. / Batemans Brewery visit their website
United Kingdom (England)

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Renamed "Mr. George's Ruby Porter".

(Beer added by: brewdlyhooked13 on 11-19-2003)
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Photo of mick_cooper
4/5  rDev +13%

Cola coloured, bit flat. Nice, interesting taste but a little watery

mick_cooper, Sep 16, 2014
Photo of hookah97
3/5  rDev -15.3%

hookah97, Aug 13, 2014
Photo of Euan91
3.35/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

An ok ruby beer. Smells good, looks fine although small head. One issue is it seems very carbonated; leads to an underlying aftertaste similar to that of fizzy water. Doesn't leave a lasting impression. Wouldn't buy again but perhaps worth trying. Still quite an enjoyable beer.

Euan91, Apr 09, 2014
Photo of Mr_Pink_152
3.25/5  rDev -8.2%

Mr_Pink_152, Jan 01, 2014
Photo of BillRoth
3.75/5  rDev +5.9%

BillRoth, Dec 07, 2013
Photo of WoodBrew
3/5  rDev -15.3%

WoodBrew, Nov 11, 2013
Photo of EmperorBevis
3.89/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Not a porter
Midway, I must say between Ruby ale and a special bitter

A good solid bottled beer bitter tasting elements alongside rich red fruits

It's a good looking drink as well almost maroon in colour with a decent enough head and appealing aromas

it sits nicely in the mouthfeel dept. not at all flimsy but certainly not heavy going

Not world class but not all that far off (say if they did a bottle conditioned version the cask must be a marvel though) certainly way above average this is on of Bateman's

EmperorBevis, Nov 01, 2013
Photo of DerekKetelaars
3.25/5  rDev -8.2%

DerekKetelaars, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of rulisekmartin
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%

rulisekmartin, Mar 06, 2013
Photo of Beerstorian
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%

Beerstorian, Feb 14, 2013
Photo of Pelicanrocks
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%

Pelicanrocks, Sep 27, 2012
Photo of fionn13
3.75/5  rDev +5.9%

fionn13, Aug 22, 2012
Photo of CrazyDavros
3.2/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours very dark brown with a small head.
Nose shows caramel, toffee, diacetyl and soft roasted malt.
Similar flavours, more roasted presence but still showing some caramel and diacetyl. A bit plain in terms of roasted character.
Could use less carbonation.

CrazyDavros, Apr 30, 2012
Photo of shambeano
3.78/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured from a 500ml bottle into a pint glass.

A-Pours a cola like very light black, with some reddish tinges to the sides. about a half inch of head that quickly subsides. not too shabby.

S- a little bit savoury, licorice and herbs. some sweeter malts, and some bitterness there to round things out. a little light on the aroma, i feel like im searching for any flavour i get.

T- sweetish malts initially, then a savouryness comes through. Licorice, and molasses, a little bit fruity, plummy and raisins. a touch herbaly to finish, with a slight bitterness at the end. pretty nice.

M- on the lighter side, but with a nice carbonation that prickles the front of the tongue, the slight bitterness hits the back of the mouth, and there is a nice drying finish that makes you want to take another sip. good length too.

O- i really liked this one, not much on the nose, but it looks alright and tastes and feels pretty good.

Note: the label refers to the beer as a dark ruby beer, so i am reviewing it as a dark ale, and not as a porter.

shambeano, Feb 09, 2012
Photo of Daredevil
4.35/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

not sure why this is classified as 'retired', I just happened to buy a bottle, which looked pretty much 'active' ... the design of the label seems to have changed though

this is an almost impervious black liquid with a very small head (maybe however the drink was just too cold when poured) .... the smell is very malty, with some sweet liquorice notes ...
the taste is very complex, liquorice again, with anisette and lime notes, very full and very dry ...

not an easy brew and not something I would like to drink everyday, but the elegance of the (quite paradox, I must admit) balance between bitter dryness, sweetness and citric acidity is astonishing ...

Daredevil, Feb 05, 2012
Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.78/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 500ml bottle with a BB of Jan 2012. Named after 'Black Tom', a figure from the English civil war.

Poured into a Sam Smith's pint glass. A very dark ruby hue with medium carbonation. Appears black unless held to the light. Forms a decent head of light-brown foam that lasts for a few minutes before subsiding. Aroma of sweet, fruity malt with notes of dried fruit, christmas pudding, plum jam, caramel, brown sugar and a whiff of alcohol.

Tastes of sweet, dark malt with a mild dry finish. Notes of dried fruit, plums, brown sugar, caramel malt, grain and yeast. A hint of stewed hops in the background, but no bitterness. Solventy flavour upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is smooth and lightly tingly, with some astringency. Aftertaste of sweet, fruity malt.

A nice dark ale. Not convinced this is a porter - it's more of a mild (the label describes it as a dark ruby beer). No bitterness or roasted malt character. At any rate, it's smooth and has a well-balanced fruity flavour. Very drinkable, and well worth sampling.

jazzyjeff13, Jan 20, 2012
Photo of StJamesGate
3.73/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark with foamy white head but not clear ruby in light and the head leaves few trailers. Nose is burnt toast, red currant jam, a bit of tar, citrus oil and bark.
Roasted nutty malts with some molasses and sarsaparilla root, a sour lactic hit, then orange rind hops with a woody bite.
Kola nut finish and a dry leave. Light to medium and quite fizzy.

It may be renamed because of 3F, but it still sells as Dark Lord in the UK, so that's where I'm reviewing it.

Is this a porter or a strong dark mild? Flavors are in the right place for porter, but too light and lively for that. Don't mean to be a style fascist, but an indecisive hybrid for me.

*from notes

StJamesGate, Oct 04, 2011
Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.93/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours dark brown with lots of reddish hues. The light brown head is rahter small and soapy. Rich lacings, though.

D: Sweet light roasted malt with lots of dark dried fruits. Dark bread. Some coffee.

T: Sweet malt, light roasted. A crisp dry bitterness is present. Dark dried fruits and lots of coffee and chocolate.

M: Aftertaste is long and bitter. Body is full and carbonation mild. Smooth!

O: A rather nice Mild, with a nice dryness to it.

Evil_Pidde, Aug 27, 2011
Photo of fullsweep
3.48/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

500 mL brown bottle poured into a pint glass.

Presentation: my bottle/label looked different than the one shown. The artwork depicted a medieval knight with a sinister glare.

A: dark ruby ale (similar in colour to Hobgoblin, Thwaite's Dark Mild, etc.)

S: sweet, mildly spicy

T: very good, but not as much flavour as I was hoping for--this was a bit milder than expected

M: again a very solid beer but nothing spectacular in the mouthfeel

O: would definitely like a repeat of this.

fullsweep, May 09, 2011
Photo of smcolw
3.55/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Ruby mahogany color where a minimal amount of light will pass in front of bulb. Beige head with a blend of large and tight bubbles. Recedes quickly. Leaves spotty lace.

Rich smell of overcooked caramel--sweet with a tinge of burnt sugar.

Seems closer to a dark English pale ale than a porter. Features the "round" flavor of the British ales. Lots of brown sugar with a good dollop of hop in the finish. I like the taste, but wouldn't describe it as a porter. Despite the sugar level the body is quite thin; the carbonation is good. The aftertaste is hoppy bitterness but fades too soon.

I'm torn: For me, this is a decent beer, one I would enjoy greatly in an English Pub. That said, it falls short of the profile I was expecting.

smcolw, Apr 24, 2011
Photo of largadeer
3.4/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle into a nonic. Pours a clear dark brown, nothing particularly ruby looking about it. The head is thin and quickly settles to a collar.

Decent nose of English yeast and toasted and roasted malt. Dark fruit, mild diacetyl and mineral, slightly vinous.

Tastes pretty good, alebit a bit boring. Fruity, vinous, quite a bit of raisin flavor above a mildly roasty malt base. Medium bodied, rather dry on the tongue. Carob comes out toward the finish, with a mild earthy hop bite and a lingering note of licorice. This is pretty good, but nothing special. The XXXB from this brewery is quite a bit better.

largadeer, Apr 11, 2011
Photo of Offa
4.1/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a very nice, lighter but fairly complex, characterful porter. It is a bit subdued but has some nice complexity and depth of character.

Extremely deep red-brown, almost black with small dark tan head shrinking very slowly to a foamy ring and wisps, leaving some weak hints of lace.

Aroma is very nice caramelized prunes and dark bread, leaves, earth, spices, very toasty and fruity.

Taste is light zesty-spicy fruity sweetness and caramelized dried fruit up front, then roasty-spicy-earthy light bitterness and roasted barley. It has hints of licorice and rootbeer. It is nicely balanced, light but firm and lively of body and feel. It's not super complex or rich, and the elements I detect are generally light and a bit subdued, but it is very tasty and has good balance with enough character and complexity to both make it very enjoyable and keep it interesting. It's highly drinkable.

Offa, Mar 30, 2011
Photo of ProfessorHomer
3.03/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Dark brown. Smallish head, some lacing.

S - Coffee grounds, bittersweet chocolate. Was expecting more.

T - I concur with one of the existing reviews -tastes like a brown ale with some port wine. Some bitter coffee/chocolate notes (but not enough). Was expecting more.

M - Medium, mildly carbonated. Eh.

D - This is a porter? An English porter? Really?

Overall, this was a one-time experience. Being a "porter guy" this was rather disapointing, especially since Bateman's XXXB was so outstanding. When it some to choosing a porter - don't choose this one. I got my bottle for $2.49 "on clearance", so what can one truly expect? Waaay better to pay the $3.99 for a Sam Smith's Taddy Porter.

ProfessorHomer, Mar 26, 2011
Photo of woemad
3.35/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1pt,0.9oz bottle given to me by my brother for Christmas. Thanks, Bro! No freshness date, though some sort of code that appears to have been stamped at 10:23 is on the neck of the bottle. According to the label, "This is a VEGAN BEER."

Poured a dark brown with a slight, tan head. It takes on a dark, rubyish tinge when held up to light (hence the name ruby porter, I suppose).

Roasted malt and mollasses in the nose. Smells like a straightforward, no frills porter.

Roasted malt provides a coffeeish flavor, there's also some nuttiness and some restrained brown sugar. Slightly acidic tasting. Modest dryness at the swallow.

Mouthfeel is a little bit thin, slightly prickly.

This is a no frills English porter. Not a bad beer, but there are better ones out there. I'd definitely choose a Fullers' London Porter or a Taddy over this, but it hit the spot paired up with some scrambled eggs and toast.

woemad, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of THECPJ
3.5/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes:

appearance: dark brown almost black with no head

smell: caramel, malts,

taste: toffee, roasted malts

mouthfeel: mild carbonation, smooth, medium body

drinkability: due to the smooth texture it's easy to drink.


The CpJ

THECPJ, Mar 03, 2011
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Dark Lord from George Bateman and Son Ltd. / Batemans Brewery
81 out of 100 based on 41 ratings.