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Val-Dieu Winter - Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu

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BA SCORE
89
very good

31 Ratings
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Ratings: 31
Reviews: 23
rAvg: 4.05
pDev: 13.58%
Wants: 1
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: PorterLambic on 01-11-2005)
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Photo of KYGunner
4.06/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The nose is full with molasses, sweet dried fruit like prune date and fig, with sour green Apple and bread. The flavor is stronger to the bread and malt with touches of anise, carriage, figs and crabapple. Slightly thick in feel it has a sticky sweetness in the mouth. I enjoyed this thoroughly and found it to be an excellent example of the style.

KYGunner, Feb 24, 2014
Photo of desint
3/5  rDev -25.9%

desint, Dec 22, 2013
Photo of WOLFGANG
4.5/5  rDev +11.1%

WOLFGANG, Jul 04, 2013
Photo of jazztoloc
4/5  rDev -1.2%

jazztoloc, Jun 01, 2013
Photo of Theshooster
4/5  rDev -1.2%

Theshooster, Dec 10, 2012
Photo of t0rin0
4.25/5  rDev +4.9%

t0rin0, Nov 11, 2012
Photo of Stoutsman
2/5  rDev -50.6%

Stoutsman, Jan 14, 2012
Photo of ygtbsm94
4/5  rDev -1.2%

ygtbsm94, Jan 05, 2012
Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev -1.2%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 25, 2011
Photo of tpd975
3.65/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours dark brown with a small tan head. No retention or lace noted.

S: Sweet bready malt, yeast, brown sugar, and toffee.

T: Dark fruit, sweet candy malts, doughy yeast.

M: Medium in body, smooth fairly creamy.

D: Not too bad, but not a great beer.

tpd975, Mar 11, 2010
Photo of watchnerd
3.8/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle, poured into a big goblet wine glass, like you'd use for a bordeaux.

Cloudy nutty brown with medium carbonation and a chunky, lumpy head, tastes of plums, raisons, and potpourri, almost patchouli, moving to yeast and alcohol on the finish, that all dissolves into a nice warm rush to the cheeks that reduces the drinkability a bit, but sure tastes great on the way to hiccupville.

watchnerd, Feb 25, 2008
Photo of TheLiterati
3.48/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a goblet a deep, rich brown. Smells of fruit - raisins and grapes as another BA mentioned. I also agree with that BA's assessment of this ale having a soda-like aroma. Sweet on the nose and the palate, but not necessarily cloying.

Mouthfeel is smooth as is the taste. Nothing overwhelmingly outstanding, but a good solid strong, dark ale.

TheLiterati, Feb 16, 2008
Photo of ccrida
3.6/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml poured into my Gouden Carolus goblet, the Winter abbey is a hazy deep Garnet with a small, creamy, off-white head that leaves foamy sheets of lace. Served at cellar temp, this year's vintage.

Smell is fruity and one dimensional, like grape soda. Soft, to reserved for my taste.

Taste, actually, is pretty much the same, grape soda wise. But I really like grape soda...especially when it's packing 10.5%! This is a really sugary quad, loads of red wine and raisin, with a nice rumminess. Lacking complexity but enjoyable nevertheless.

Mouthfeel is light, highly digestible. The sugar coating in the mouth is thick.

Drinkability is high if you can handle the sugar and don't mind the thin fruitiness, but this is strong and rich by any standard, it's probably much better with a year or two on it, and good enough that I'll grab 1 or 2 more and try.

ccrida, Dec 22, 2007
Photo of Sammy
3.95/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This reportedly is the Grand Cru. It pours a muddy brown with little head. It is about three years old and so understated carbonation. Overall pleasant, and a drying rich taste. Definite dark fruit, pepper, and cocoa, well balanced. Medium mouthfeel.

Sammy, Sep 16, 2007
Photo of shroompod
4.13/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 06/06, Edit:
Just realized this is the best before date and re-evaluated the hit I gave it for mouthfeel.

Pours a dark hazy reddish brown , very little head, minimal amounts of lacing.

Smell is slightly yeast, some caramel,.

This beer has a sweet, grape-like taste to it. The hops balance out the sweetness almost perfectly.

This beer has a thick sweet mouthfeel. This particular bottle might be a little off because the carbonation is a little low.

Overall this beer has great drinkability for a high ABV beer. I kinda wished I'd saved this for the winter, but loved it nonetheless.

shroompod, Jul 23, 2007
Photo of rallison
4.55/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: Beautiful ruby red black with a 1 finger off-white head that leaves some nice lacing.

S: Mmmm, tasty dark fruits. Raisins, plums and yumminess.

T: Delicious. Port soaked raisins, plums and some other sweeter fruits and flavors that I can't quite place. A bit of Candi Sugar sweetness, with just a touch of alcohol. Wonderfully rich and delicious.

M: Perfect. Nice bit of carbonation to keep this 10.5% light enough, but with a perfectly rich coating too. Nice.

D: Extremely drinkable. 10.5%? This is how you do a beer of this gravity. I could drink this all day.

Highly recommended. One excellent winter beer.

rallison, May 16, 2007
Photo of jettjon
4.35/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

OK, it’s a cold winter night (well as cold as it gets here in Florida), and It’s time for a good Belgian Strong Dark ale. Presented in a caged-cork 750ml bottle, best before date on cork 10/07. I actually had to use a corkscrew on this one; that’s a rarity. Slight pop as the cork is extracted. Into the tulip, served at about 45 degrees.

Pours a very dark, practically opaque brown/black with a reddish tint when held to a light. Somewhat vigorous pour yields a solid fingers-worth of tan foam that fades slowly leaving solid sheets of lacing in its wake. Damn fine looking beer. Nose of sweet dark fruits, lightly bready malt and boozy alcohol. Cherry syrup. A bit of peppery spice in there as well. I’m betting that the nose really intensifies with warming. Tastes very well balanced with a combination of sweet, fruity malts matched against a subdued hop background with a firm alcohol presence. Damn fine dark ale flavor. Wine-like flavor complexity. Bitter, dry finish. Mouth is nicely balanced between a viscous, slick wetness and moderate, lively carbonation. Drinkability is excellent; I will be sipping this 10.5% ABV beverage all night.

Overall: An exemplary strong dark, and damn fine beer by any measure. Highly recommended.

jettjon, Jan 29, 2007
Photo of Beerzebub
4.33/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Very dark brown color. Quarter inch of beige head mostly dissipates, but leaves sticky patches of Havarti-like lace.

Smells of sweet toffee and caramel, grapes, raisins, prunes, black figs, floral honey, solventy rummy alcohol.

Tastes fairly sweet, pleasant smooth cane sugar flavor. Fresh dark grapes, papaya, dried fruit, floral honey, caramelized sugar, milk chocolate, bread crust, coriander, cinnamon. Some aspect of fortified wine: port, sweet Marsala. Subtle roastiness and mildly bitter astringency helps balance the sweetness and alcohol. Alcohol is forthright, but manages not to overwhelm. It works, fairly cohesive.

Silky mouthfeel, with fine carbonation, but becomes thin. Some astringency, like grape skins. Very drinkable, considering.

Good interesting beer. For the style and the alcohol content, the dark sugars and dark malts seem restrained, white sugar must be a major ingredient. It makes for a relatively light and drinkable Belgian strong dark ale, despite the sweetness - the high gravity beer version of a good snickerdoodle?

Beerzebub, Jan 10, 2007
Photo of EmilNoldSinclair
4.63/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into an oversized wine glass and consumed with aged cheddar (truly a delight!) This one gave an inch high head approx. The bubbles were very small and off-white. After letting it warm up a bit, I found that a decently sized layer of head remained (as it did throughout the remainder of the tasting!) The head clung to the glass all over the place. The color was nearly an opaque black, but held up to light it was a very very dark translucent brown.
The smell was of spiced raisins, figs, and alcohol. It improves as it warms.
The taste was delightful: red apples, raisins, plums, and chocolate, with some definite ethanol presence. Also, cinnamon? The hops are very tame, well balanced...as a Belgian should be! This taste faded (with only some chocolate remaining) into a pleasant toffee flavor.
I felt like I was chewing this beer. Thick mouthfeel...Mild mild carbonation.
Overall, an excellent beer (I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it is even better than a Chimay Grande Reserve). However, though the ethanol is pleasing, I imagine it could get to be too much after several pours into an oversized wine glass! (not that anyone would need that much to drink!)

EmilNoldSinclair, Jan 06, 2007
Photo of beerogre
4.28/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Once again my senses are treated to the extravagance that is the Belgian Strong Dark Ale. This is yet another fine example of the style.

My first few sips reminded me immediately of the Ommegang version, with the bready taste initially most noticeable but then it began to take me in a sweeter, more licoricey direction, though not to the extent of some, such as Gouden Carolus Carolus D'Or - Cuvée Van De Keizer.

I don't think the mouthfeel is quite there so much as in some of its peers, but what it may lose here it easily picks up in the drinkability category.

All in all a very decent effort, if not quite Top of the Class.

beerogre, Dec 24, 2006
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.65/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

What is the value in putting a 'best by' date on the cork when it can't be seen until the cork is pulled from the bottle? This one reads 07/07. Good thing I decided to drink it today and not next winter.

Murky chestnut with orange and amber edges. The khaki colored head is of high quality, but doesn't have the typical, rocky Belgian ale look. It's densely creamy and melts rather than deflates. There's also a tremendous amount of thick, spackle-like lace that is probably my favorite part of the appearance.

The nose is intensely dark fruity with raisins, plums and figs coming immediately to mind. It smells more sour than sweet, a situation that I hope is reversed on the palate. Spices are present as well, with a particularly funky cloviness front and center. Complex doesn't even begin to describe the aroma.

Val-Dieu Winter is darker and richer and thicker than I was expecting. Is there such a style as Imperial Belgian Strong Dark Ale? It looks like we'll have to invent it to describe this wonderful beer. Like the nose, complexity is the operative word on the palate. It's a good thing I have 750 ml to figure this one out.

There's at least half again as much malt as in most versions of the style. Each mouthful simply oozes with dark malty goodness. As a result, the tanginess that I appreciated in the nose is still present, but sweetness easily overtakes it and is, by far, the dominant flavor sensation. As far as flavors themselves, I'm still not sure that I can identify them all. How do those Belgians brew such amazingly complex beer? I'm guessing that witchcraft plays a role.

I'm tempted to compare Val-Dieu to a dark holiday fruitcake. The flavor profile consists of roasted malt, cocoa, darkest caramel, black currants, dates, figs, tobacco and clove. Oh yeah, and a few huge scoops of candi sugar. It really doesn't matter in what circumstances one enjoys a world-class beer such as this, but it occurs to me that the optimal situation would be as an after dinner treat, in place of dessert. In other words, as the beer version of a tawny port (which it resembles by the way).

Truthfully, I didn't notice any alcohol until I went looking for it. It's easily identified, but is such a well-buried contributor that it deserves stealth status. One expects to taste alcohol and to feel its spreading warmth in port wine, so why shouldn't one expect and enjoy the same in a port wine-like beer? I have a sneaking suspicion that Winter will be good long after 07/07.

The mouthfeel is the best of both worlds. It's as big, as thick and as lush as the finest Imperial stouts, yet it manages to convey the lightness (to some extent at least) of the finest Belgian ales. It's a hard line to straddle, which makes its success at doing so all the more remarkable.

I had no idea how good this beer is. It's been sitting in a box in a corner of my cellar for at least a year and I'm sure I've passed it by more than once while awaiting the onset of winter. Well Winter has arrived and I couldn't be happier. I might just light a fire tonight and I might just pour the rest of the bottle into a snifter. This outstanding offering from Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu deserves nothing less.

BuckeyeNation, Dec 06, 2006
Photo of clickpush
4.68/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pour: 750ml bottle to tulip glass. Comes out with a half inch tan head over a dark, cherry-wood colored body. Lots of bubbles active throughout, and the head clings to the glass on it's descent, leaving great lacings both on the walls and over the surface of the beer.

Nose: Chalky & sour, chocolate and very dry cocoa powder. Faint but attractive.

Mouth: Super malty, sweet & sour. Faint sour notes immediately upon entering the mouth give way to lots of sweet fruity esters as it moves back: plums and sour cherries, brown sugar. Mouthfeel is superbly carbonated all the way back, sparkly and creamy at the same time.

clickpush, Dec 06, 2006
Photo of dblinkhorn
3.88/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a tulip glass.

Appearance - Pours a slighly brownish honey-amber. It has an off-white head that is creamy throughout but with some soapiness on top. It dissipates at a moderate rate leaving spotty lacing here and there on the way down. It eventually settles at a patchy and thin layer of lacing on top.

Smell - Some rich nutty aromas with a spicy and warming alcohol up front. Herbal hops with slight floral notes. Dark figs and raisins dominate the fruitiness. There is also a strong brown sugar and caramel sweetnes. Some pepper and corriander spiciness with notes of nutmeg. A rich malt aroma ties it altogether in the background.

Taste - Rich pudding-like malt character with a strong nut character right up front. Also some metallic character is present in the malt as well. Clove and even strong corriander as the spice heightens in the middle. The alcohol also turns on full blast at 10.5% ABV and produces a warming and spicy/tingly feeling. Some herbal and floral for the hops, but more subdued than on the nose. The finish brings forth a nice medley of all of these flavors, with some more metallic character shining through. The aftertaste has lots of powdery yeast flavors and moderate earthiness with a dying malt richness.

Mouthfeel - Decent smoothness with a medium body. A sharp opening from the carbonation, but it mellows up a bit and has a nice edge throughout the taste. Adds a refreshing character, but is still just slightly overpowering for the style.

Drinkability - Strong flavors and a highly present alcohol. Has heavy body as well. One bottle of this would do me in.

A decent Belgian strong dark here. I do enjoy the nutty character it has, it reminds me of a Belgian version of a nut brown ale. Definitely worth a try or two. I would buy this beer again, but it won't be one of those beers that I always have on hand.

dblinkhorn, Oct 26, 2006
Photo of GClarkage
4.63/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

04/13/06- Had on tap at the Toronado in San Francisco, CA during Belgian Beer Month.

Presentation- Via the tap into a tulip style glass.

Appearance- Brown and a touch mahagoney. Light 1/4 inch frothy head. Decent lacing.

Smell- Nice dark fruit scented brew. Grapes, figs and dates. Maybe some winter spices thown in as well...cloves?

Taste- Heavy grape flavor. Dates and figs combine to make a very dark and mildly sryupy sweet taste. A nice roasted dark sweet malt under all the fruit.

Mouthfeel- Not super syrupy, but a touch thick. Lower carbonation. Slides down your throat.

Drinkability- Super easy drinker. Wonderful flavor and high recommended.

GClarkage, Apr 14, 2006
Photo of Crosling
3.8/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Burgundy color, with a full and creamy foam that lasts. Lightly aromatic, with hints of burnt popcorn, brandy, dark fruit (plum) and the attributes of Belgian Yeast. Flavor is very rich and full, with extremely well hidden alcohol, fruit, chocolate and Belgian yeast. Not complex, nor polite, but quite tasty.

Crosling, Mar 26, 2006
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Val-Dieu Winter from Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu
89 out of 100 based on 31 ratings.