Saison De Pipaix - Brasserie à Vapeur
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Reviews by fourstringer:
3.98/5 rDev +7.9%
Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a Brewer's Art goblet. Moderate hand. Cap is stamped 11/14.
A: Hazy, dark orange-yellow body. 1 finger off-white head with fair retention. Light lacing.
S: Lightly tart with a citric acid scent. Mild funk. Suggestions of fruit - cherry, wine grape - come across with a character that is unusual for a beer. Almost like the "ghost" of those fruits. Cool, but strange, and hard to describe. Lemon. Hint of bready malt, grass/hay.
T: Nicely tart with a very round, almost fruity, funk to it. A mild, slightly herbal, hop bitterness leads to a fairly dry finish. Citric acid and light malt lingers on the finish. Light herbal and floral aspects. There is a certain vinous quality. No alcohol to speak of.
M: Moderate carbonation with a light body. Both are relatively slight for the style, but convey the somewhat delicate flavors nicely.
O: Very interesting, genre-bending brew. More sour than I expected, but I really enjoyed it. Seems to integrate equal parts saison, flanders red and gueuze, with a somewhat lighter feel than average for any of the three. The fruit notes are very unique. Definitely worth trying out - especially if you like sours.
03-05-2014 04:57:45 | More by fourstringer
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2.63/5 rDev -28.7%
Heard great things about this,found it in Buffalo bought a 96 vintage.Started promising I liked the color and the nice head,after that all downhill.Had little to no smell,the taste was peppery (overpoweringly so) and way to sour!The beer was way to thin and watery to go along with that taste.Didnt finish the bottle just to peppery and thin for me,waiste of six bucks.
02-24-2003 11:38:18 | More by oberon
3.1/5 rDev -16%
Appearance Bright orange body with a smallish head that dissipated quickly.
Smell Big, deep, apple cider with a huge lime scent and a noticeable malt body. Theres also a strong, very musty oak aroma that mirrors vintage American oak wine casks if youve ever smelled that.
Taste The giant lime and apples come out big time in the flavor. This is one Sweet-Tart thats been around for a while, too. The musty aroma follows through in the taste. The malt is mostly absent and broken down. This ale is a little past its prime.
Mouthfeel More sour and broken than I like my Saison/Biere de Garde beverages, but an interesting experience nevertheless. There is little carbonation left in this bottle.
Drinkability A sipping ale even when in its prime, now its slow going.
Comments This may have been a, Beer for keeping, some time ago, but this particular vintage is overaged. This is an '85 vintage, so it''s a full 18 years old. I would have like to have tasted this in '90 or '95.
09-07-2003 06:08:45 | More by RoyalT
3.5/5 rDev -5.1%
Presentation: Green 750, sides are coated in ancient yeast, bottom of bottle is jet black from a decade or more time spent in a cellar. Mettle cap with a cork beneath. White label on the neck states, This ALE has been brewed in 07/95, bottled in Oct. 1995 and stored in our cellar. When you get it, put it back in a cellar for some days or better weeks (like an old wine). You should find a begin of wine porto taste. Enjoy it!
Cork pulled with no sound (bad sign). Pours a thin, transparent golden brown apricot. Almost no head. Carbonation streams are nonexistent. This beer looks flat.
Nose of kafir lime leaf, cider, white port, peach skins, brut champagne, must oil, sour grapes, lime soup. Notably sour and lambic like, almost gauze character is present.
Sips without any carbonation, damn. Also notable is an almost complete lack of hops and body for that matter. Damn, this stuff passed its prime some time ago. Im left longing for what it could have been. Despite the age, its taste is wonderfully dynamic and complex and drinks much more like a wine than a beer. Tastes salty, dry, rocky and fruity. Notes of cherries, pineapple, mellon, citrus fruits, and cilantro are all apparent.
Mouthfeel is weak, but not without some pleasant tartness and sourness. Drinkability suffers from the lack of vitality.
I cant wait to try a younger vintage. The 95, however, is spent.
04-16-2006 23:11:01 | More by DaPeculierDane
4.13/5 rDev +11.9%
Presentation: 1 pint 10.4oz green wine bottle with cork and beer cap. From the back label: "This ale has been brewed in 10/1996, bottled in November 1996 and stored in our cellar. When you get it, put it back in a celler for some days or better weeks (like an old wine). You should find a begin of wine porto taste. Enjoy it!" ... I stored this beer for another year plus.
Appearance: Pours a dark, cloudy amber/peach coloured beer with a snapping, fizzy white foam head that snaps down to stillness.
Smell: Soft, musty, aged. A bit cider-like, with loads of ginger in the nose, and dash of pepper.
Taste: A very crisp beer. Coarse on the palate. Carbonation is quite fizzy, like mineral water, both in feel on the palate and taste -- a bit champagne-like too in that respect. Puckering tartness with a stand-out sweet orange citrus flavour that is absolutely lovely. Very vinous in character. Apple-skin-like feel thrown into the coarseness, too. Hints of lemon grass, hop leaf and spices that taste steeped: coriander and pepper. The use of ginger really rounds things off and adds yet another layer of depth, and more spice to the brew. Slight "cheesy" flavour around the edges and towards the finish, which is coarse and dry.
Notes: Bottle-conditioned. Unpasteurized. Brewed according to an original 1785 recipe with: pale & Munich malts, Hallertauer hops, ginger, pepper, sweet orange, coriander and curacao.
Saison. What an underrated style of beer. So wine-like, but more complex with citrus and spices that pop-out with a most refreshing carbonation and lightness. Saison de Pipaix is a classic example of the style. Can't really say much more than ... Be adventurous. Live a little. Buy a saison and sip it with an open mind.
10-30-2002 19:23:10 | More by Todd
3.85/5 rDev +4.3%
750 ml corked and capped bottle pours a hazed copper body with a two finger ecru head. The head diminishes to attractive satiny sheets of lace on the goblet. Aroma is spicy with ginger and orange peel. Vague fruity notes suggest lemon and lime leaf. Medium body and carbonation. Taste is medium dry, with spicy white pepper, ginger, and orange peel dominant. Citrusy notes seem to be kiwi and lemon rind. Finishes with a hint of mustiness. Surprisingly drinkable for such a spicy saison but lacks the pastoral feel of better examples of the style.
12-31-2007 14:34:35 | More by merlin48
4.3/5 rDev +16.5%
Large green bottle,(not the aged stuff) corked and capped, the cork was kind of wet and gooey, hmmm, minimal energy released upon popping the cork. Pours medium almond, cloudy, without much noticable sediment, slight tan head and leaving just moderate lacing. Head shows good retention leading to a splotchy tiny bubble film The nose is where things start to get interesting, its smokey, sour, sugary, interesting. This has got to be the most sour "saison" out there, its close to a lambic in the strength of the puckering sourness that you will experience. Also notes of more smoke, tropical fruits, and honey. This is an interesting, complex and tasty brew. Has the feel, taste and character of being real authentic Belgian brew, sort of quirky and definitely differant. Well worth a try for all lovers of fairly sour Belgians
04-30-2006 20:06:58 | More by Billolick
4.68/5 rDev +26.8%
I picked up this bottle at O'Brien's. There is a sticker on the bottle that says "This ALE has been brewed in 04/1995, bottled in Sept. 1995 and stored in our cellar. When you get it, put it back in a cellar for some days or better weeks (like an old wine). You should find a begin of wine porto taste. Enjoy it!" I have never had a beer this old. I know the style is not the best candidate for aging. Lets see how it held up.
This beer pours a clear golden yellow with a white head. The head fades slowly leaving a thick layer of laces.
This beer has a noticable alcohol aroma. Behind that, I detect a sour , citrusy aroma. Also, I can detect a spicy aroma. A little clove aroma also maybe?
This beer has a slightly sour flavor. I taste nutmeg, and a slight clove flavor. There is a good citrus flavor. The alcohol in not noticable in the flavor. I
This beer is very smooth. It leaves a sour cherry, slightly citrusy aftertaste. This beer is very refreshing. It has held up good after so long. The carbonation is very low, but that is understandable since it is over 10 years old.
This is a very drinkable beer. Low alcohol, smooth refreshing taste. If this beer was more available, I would drink a lot of it. Well worth the $20 it cost. O'Brien's has some left, I just might go buy another one.
12-25-2005 01:56:24 | More by OStrungT
United Kingdom (England)
4.97/5 rDev +34.7%
An excellent little brew, aroma of pepper, flowers and perhaps a bit of licorice, wood shavings or something like that. Very fresh and summery in taste, i dug it a hell of a lot, nice bitter finish aswell, well balanced, light, tart, exciting, i just love this stuff, close to my favourite.
07-12-2002 05:06:39 | More by rastaman
3.03/5 rDev -17.9%
(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer has a very clear soft slightly aged copper colored body with a beige head that last a bit and a gentle carbonation of microbubbles.
S- The soft fusel white plastic aroma has some soft berry esters to follow but it is otherwise pretty clean in the aroma.
T- The brassy bite as a white wine characteristic with some cider and green apple notes. It becomes even more dry in the finish. There is a grapefruit pith note with a dry sugar note and some sherry hints linger with a slight tang to them.
M- The medium-light mouthfeel is crisp with a tight soft fizz and no alcohol heat noticed.
O- This beer has some odd off flavors and no yeast character or malt flavors. It was ok to drink but too dry and tart. I don't know if this beer is old or just how the brewer intended but it is not for me.
09-01-2011 21:07:56 | More by rhoadsrage
3.83/5 rDev +3.8%
A: the color is as nice as a good summer sunset. Bright oranges with yellow hues and a soft amber color floating directly in the middle of the glass. The look is made shiny by the loads of bubbles floating around. No real head formed and fizzy ring remains at the top
S: acidic whiffs with lemons and tart apples. Very mild barnyard smells of hay and straw. I also gather something I can only describe a ginger root
T: flavors put forth a somewhat strong acidity with a touch of vinegar. The elements of the farm funk are softly available to the palate and the dominant flavors are of citrus augmented by pears, sour apples, a twist of lemon all sprinkled with white pepper. Body has the fruity appeal reminiscent of white wine on the palate with the carbonation of a champagne
M: two main words: coarse 'n' dry. The body is a true fizzy lifting drink. Carbonation makes gulping difficult and sipping with the window open on a nice warm day makes things a bit more enjoyable. The body is very light and airy
D: a sipper all day long. This is one of the better Saison's I have had. The flavors rely on fruity wine notes and are amped up by the strong carbonation. It also is not loaded with musty farm smells or tastes. It is different...
05-25-2009 17:41:43 | More by Magpie14
4.4/5 rDev +19.2%
Pours a hazy apricot body with a thin white head. Muddy yellow after the yeast pour, with a more defined crown.
Nose of limestone, lime juice, and lime leaves. Traced with sourdough, fuzzy peach skin, and a deliciously contradictory whisper of vanilla.
Pours throught the mouth with a melange of unripe and sour fruits. Peaches, cherries, pears, apple, and pineapple and muskmelon, all laid upon a salted lime juice backing. It's forcefully tart without being shearing or choking, or off-seeming. Like a gueuze-lite. Sedimentary rocks provide an earthen backing, mostly via sandstone. There has been a good deal of hop atrophy after 9+ years, but it still ends with a leafy cilantro herb note, and phantasmagoric Hallertau mist.
Yeast pour bolsters the body with wheat bread, caramel, and salt.
Light of body and of carbonation. A near decade later, this is a delectably different quaffer. More downable than a lambic, which might be its closest reference point. Otherwise, compare this to cilantro-infused salted limeade filtered through bedrock and garnished with melon rinds and pineapple.
02-16-2005 23:53:30 | More by cokes
3.23/5 rDev -12.5%
Odd spices in this saison, cidrey acid harshness, but grows on you. Barnyard aroma, however also in taste, let warm to just below room temperature. Apple juice, yeast, a bit metallic after-taste. Drinkable, two of us finished, four would have as well.Had 1995 version on the selves at Premier Gourmet but is was literally malt vinegar.
06-28-2005 02:58:18 | More by Sammy
3.88/5 rDev +5.1%
Poured from a capped and corked 750mL bottle into my Troubadour tulip.
Safety orange, persimmon, and rust gradient runs from the bottom to the top of the glass. ECE/SAE amber highlights lend the hazy liquid a soft glow when held up to the sunlight. Two fingers of champagne (color) foam recede to a lightly soapy collar and a miniscule raft. Lacing is fairly average.
Malty, yeasty, and fruity nose - with hints of cocoa butter, red bananas, strawberries/cherries, and orange liqueur as well.
Tart palate entry suggests wheat primarily along with a touch of lemon, loquats, and maybe rye. Some malty sweetness comes on next, along with unripe pear, and light fermenting yeast notes. Very low bitterness, though enough to offset the sweetness. Much the same into the finish, with a bit more bread crust.
Carbonation is a little low, but there is just enough creaminess to give this sufficient weight.
Rustic, with a specific signature to the flavor profile, though a little simplistic all in all. Worth trying if you are already a fan of the style, though I wouldn't start here per se.
04-25-2010 22:09:05 | More by augustgarage
4.68/5 rDev +26.8%
Pours a hazy amber-orange body with some visible particulate. It's short and creamy bright-white head holds fairly well before dropping to a decent collar and thin surface covering. Unfortunately, it leaves very little lace. The nose is quite interesting, and almost entrancing, with a soft mustiness over a gentle fruitiness (some orange), a very mild tart or acidic note, and some light spice (ginger, pepper, coriander). Really nice! The body is light; and it benefits greatly from a very fine, natural conditioning that caresses the tongue. All of the character found in the nose remains in the flavor. It's exceptionally well-balanced with a lightly sweet maltiness that's either accentuated by, or plays host to, a subtle tartness; mild orange-ish fruitiness; and gentle ginger/coriander/black pepper spiciness. It finishes soft and dry with a lingering note of sweet malt and some gentle spiciness. Complex yet refreshing! Highly enjoyable and well worth seeking out!
03-26-2003 18:43:49 | More by NeroFiddled
3.84/5 rDev +4.1%
Hazy orange and peach color, almost opaque. Thin fizzy white head.
Very subdued aroma: light spices, bread, and orange.
Intriguing flavors: sour stone fruit, yeast, a little biscuit. Not overly sweet. A little lemon and grass.
Light feel, a little sting, fairly dry yet with a residual coating.
One of the more interesting Saisons I've tried, especially for one that doesn't seem to rely on funk.
On tap at the Engine Room, Mystic, CT.
01-25-2014 20:39:53 | More by Roguer
4.6/5 rDev +24.7%
'95 Vintage, corked with a rusty cap
This is most unique saison I've had. The mangled cork came out with a burst of vinous aroma with hints of barnyard. On a blind taste test I'd believe this was a lambic. Rorshack flavor test- fresh cut limes, breezy summer days, vietnamese food. Maybe it is the age, but the most prominent flavor is the sourness. The sourness comes first, then a incredibly pleasant grassy finish. It has that patented saison funkiness. I'd love to try this one new to get a basis of comparison, but this one is heavenly.
03-12-2005 04:31:31 | More by swamiswamu
3.33/5 rDev -9.8%
2003 vintage. Thanks to Jeremy (JAXSON) for this fossil of a beer and what I'm sure will be a unique experience. There's dust all over the bottle (which I cleaned off) and even the cap is rusting. Poured from a 11.2oz capped and corked bottle into Lost Abbey stemware.
A: Cork comes out without so much as a plop. Beer pours nearly flat with a single layer of coarse white bubbles that sits atop a semi-clear orange-peach brew. Great head retention though. Lacing is apotty with no cling but real nice legs. Lack of head formation hurts but given the age, its not bad. Stunning color though.
S: Nose is very unique... and not in a good way. Hints of cork, cherry puree, spice, and an uncleaned public restroom. Yup... now that's what I call funky. Notes of crap (literally) and cooked blood. Very subtle and I'm glad since the aroma is so off-putting... it makes me not even wanna take a sip.
T: Opens sweet cherry spice, mint, wet wood, and metal. Pretty enjoyable actually until the middle which tastes like a sour cherry (which I appreciate) bloody nose (which I don't). Dries a bit at the finish with a metallic taste coming in again along with a puckering red fruit tartness. Blood fades only to come back in the aftertaste and cling to my palate. I'm very torn about the taste here. On the one hand, the sour part of this beer is one of the best I've come across in a long time... on the other hand, tasting blood in a beer just can't be right.
M: Light to medium bodied and as flat as a traditional lambic. Oily and filmy in the mouth and smooth and puckering going down with a dry finish and a lingering aftertaste. I tend to really like flat or almost flat beers so this scores highly even though its totally against the style.
D: The trader who gave me this told me that it would either taste like a) Aged supplication or b) a bloody nose... I can totally see where he's coming from and I get a bit of both in this one. The sour part is very very good but the bloody part is just awkward. In addition, the smell is absolutely atrocious. Still, I'd give this another shot just to see where the true flavor lies in the spectrum it presents.
02-23-2011 00:58:00 | More by SpeedwayJim
3.8/5 rDev +3%
750ml bottle, the Publican Chicago
paired with a variety of oysters and aged ham
appearance: served in a nice chalice, well carbonated - straw-yellow body with a frothy white crest and strong retention
smell: straw/hay funk, noticeably tart, yeast is rather earthy in nature
taste: earthy and almost herbal at times, yeast provides a nice sweetness but there is a chalky tartness that is a little out of place. hay, grass and mild citrus zest form the base. fairly acidic and highly carbonated - paired well with our first dishes
mouthfeel: tart, light, carbonated
08-31-2009 17:18:19 | More by dirtylou
3.2/5 rDev -13.3%
Capped and corked 750ml bottle poured into a large tulip glass. Pours an orangish amber color with an off-white head that sticks to the sides of the glass. The aroma is old and musty smelling with leather, fruits and spices. Much of the mustiness evident in the aroma transpires into the taste with a dry and yeasty finish. The mouthfeel is light and prickly from the high amount of carbonation. Overall, this is a decent saison but it does leave a lot to be desired.
01-24-2008 05:05:24 | More by cjgator3
Saison De Pipaix from Brasserie à Vapeur
83 out of 100 based on 222 ratings.