Saison De Pipaix - Brasserie à Vapeur
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1.13/5 rDev -69.4%
Mfielden brought over a bottle of this and then left in my fridge unopened as he made his departure. After trying it, I understood why.
The beer pours lifeless and nearly flat, the color of dirty sewer water.
It smells like spiced cardboard. White pepper, wet paper, uh...mostly wet paper, actually. This smells awful.
The taste is like cardboard drizzled with honey and spices. The herbal, medicinal mid-palate leads into a horribly oxidized wet paper and apple cider finish. Ugh, this is insanely bad. The bottle has no bottling date on it, so I have no idea if this is just very very old, or if the beer simply sucks.
05-25-2010 20:27:01 | More by largadeer
2.08/5 rDev -43.6%
Couldn't find a date on the bottle.
A – Light maple amber. Off-white head has great lace and nice retention.
S – Overripe fruit with a sour overtone. Unfortunately the combination came off as rancid on my nose, but two of the tasters with me didn’t get the same effect. Brackish, salty notes deep in the nose.
T – Opens with guava and tart apricot, but a salty mid profile quickly overtakes the sweetness. A rancid funk creeps up behind the salt, with a sour, lemon acidity. This bottle has to have gone bad.
M – Medium body with a lingering salty, semi-sweet finish. Low carbonation.
O – Unfortunately, it looks like this got contaminated on its way to my glass.
08-20-2011 15:40:32 | More by vfgccp
2.15/5 rDev -41.7%
A cloudy amber color with light and thin white head.
Nose is light yeast/white bread and light spice; nothing real assertive.
Mouthfeel is light and thin.
Flavors are light, thin and watery with no real identify or character. There is no finish. Go for Sparkletts instead.
12-24-2009 01:04:16 | More by GRG1313
2.23/5 rDev -39.6%
A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a murky brown color and a slightly hazy consistency. There was no head at all. No lacing to speak of either.
S: An average aroma of malt and mild spices. very little dynamism.
T: Tasted of malt and a little spice, but mainly this was a thin watery brew. Very little flavor or personality at all. None of the typical Belgian yeast or barnyard funk we've come to expect from a saison. Didn't taste like the style at all.
M: Almost no carbonation with a watery, flat finish. Light-bodied.
D: I wonder what happened with this bottle of beer, because it has been reviewed rather well on this site. Hard to believe considering it's undrinkable.
02-06-2011 13:07:03 | More by avalon07
2.33/5 rDev -36.9%
This was an unlucky weekend. Tasting Texelse Skuumkoppe: sour headache beer-a so called whitebeer. Today I tasted this one. Another headache beer-being called a saison.
Is it fate that this awful saison tastes almost identical to the whitebeer of yesterday? This beer has nothing nothing nothing to do with saison. Elementary to saison is the good hopping. This one hasn't any!
The label talks about ginger and lemon rasp as ingredients. It is sour indeed but not plaisant.
Unfortunately the second bottle to throw away this weekend.
03-18-2012 19:26:37 | More by Filosoof
2.33/5 rDev -36.9%
Completely flat. Tried at the Winking Lizard in Bedford, OH. I asked if there was a problem with the beer, and was told by the beer "expert" that all of them had been coming out that way and that I shouldn't have been sold the bottle. They kindly credited me.
I tried drinking the beer, and if it had any level of carbonation it may have been enjoyable. The star anise was very up-front, but no ginger, as had been advertised, was to be found. Other than that, nothing else of note.
02-04-2011 23:33:02 | More by Meeg
2.38/5 rDev -35.5%
Bottled in 04/95. Should have been drunk about 8 years ago. Way sour with spicy notes. So much acid it is almost undrinkable. Decent color and spicy aroma.
Could this be a bad bottle? I bought it in January anticipating a summer time sipping beer. Way disappointing.
06-22-2006 22:33:25 | More by joedon
2.4/5 rDev -35%
1995. New from B.United, just arrived in Colorado! I have to wonder why they are still distributing a beer like this. This beer has pretty much turned itself into something that somewhat resembles Gueuze-lambic. Its mildly tart and very one dimensional with the only discernable spice being the pepper. I found it very metallic and it also gave me a killer headache.
03-23-2006 21:37:53 | More by Crosling
2.45/5 rDev -33.6%
1995 bottle aged 10 years, from Vapeur's cellars.
( 19/50, 6% alc/vol, Home) Nicely lacey head of pearl drops to a disc within a few seconds. A brass colored ale with a minute suspended 'dust' of sediment. Small amount of carbonation. Heavily corked aromas, lightly soured, and a wee bit malted. Hard to grab anything else since the beer has aged through the cork, all the way to the metal cap. Apple cider, sour and moist cork. Soured and corked saison. Dry and metallic, yet very hoppish saison that has seen a few seasons too much. Sour, metallic and acidic mouthfeel that evidently shows it's age. Dry cardboard paperry and grapeskin sour. Although the taste is quite interesting, the age of this brew has it tasting paperry, mettalic, corked and dusty. Aged in the bottle for 10 years. Blended with a younger saison could have yielded something special. This however, is a ruined ale.
05-07-2011 19:34:50 | More by iguenard
2.55/5 rDev -30.9%
$3.49 11.2oz bottle
First of all, I had a bitch of a time getting that god damn cork out. I drink wine all of the time and know how to get delicate corks out, but this thing was jammed in there like a like a fat girl in a thong. Anyways, my first instinct was that this cork could be the root of a bigger problem. This poured out a bright orange witha very thin layer of lace. The was solid carbonation coming from the bottom of my Chimay chalice. The smell was ripe with a foul hint of rotted cork. The taste....well, suck on a rotten cork and then chew it, and then review it. It wasn't disgustingly bad, but there was a presence that should not have been there. The finish was like wet cardboard. I could tell that this would probably be a fantastic beer in its prime, but not this bottle. Do not fear, I will not give up my quest on saisons!
03-02-2005 01:28:04 | More by ALESwhatCURESya
2.55/5 rDev -30.9%
Poured into my fullers vintage glass.
Green bottle corked. One finger tan head, clear amber body. Nose is beligan yeast, some sweet, maybe chocolate. Hmm, taste is watery body, pepper, cellar mold. Some carbonation in the body, but really this flavor is really offensive. A little sour, but really I can't get into this one. I think its way past its prime. Drinkability suffers from the off putting flavors. Looks like a drain pour.
04-09-2009 02:00:30 | More by ballewblake
2.58/5 rDev -30.1%
Popped cap with no noise only to discover there's a cork underneath.
A- Poured into a tulip glass, clear reddish-orange with a very thin layer of head that recedes to the edge of the glass.
S- Apples, pears, pilsner malt, some biscuit malt. Also getting some of the earthy smells, but not quite the barnyard scents others referred to.
T- Tart apples and pears come first again. Then the light malts--pilsner and some cracker. A bit surprised that the flavors are a bit more sour than fruity. Not picking up too much spice.
M- very light carbonation with a light mouth-feel.
D- All in all, I'm not a fan. The tart fruit flavors really overwhelmed the spice flavors I was hoping for. Perhaps my bottle had not been stored properly. But I would be willing to give it another try.
10-09-2010 22:51:48 | More by JDH2000
2.6/5 rDev -29.5%
Originally reviewed March 31, 2007. 1995. Pizza Port Belgian Beer Fest. Pour from a 750mL. Lightly musky sea freshness, with piquant acerbic spiciness. Different and mysterious. A rather murkied amber gold, with no head. Peculiar Thanksgiving potpourri over a lightly frayed sour off note. Weird and muddled. Sour and old. Not good in many senses. A lot of bad cork sourness over light sewage and raging oxidation. A brushed-rind cheese brings up the back. Nothing good has happened to this beer in 12 years.
07-21-2007 20:46:32 | More by CharlesDarwin
2.6/5 rDev -29.5%
08/09/05- Purchased at Plumpjack's in San Francisco, CA
Presentation- 750 ml bottle from year 1995. Poured into my Duvel tulip.
Appearance- Light orange pour with a small 1/4 inch head and very little lacing.
Smell- Very nice almost wine like scent. Maybe a dry chardonnay or the like.
Taste- Looks like my bottle has past it's prime. A tart wine like flavor at first, but then comes in a harsh metal like taste that overtakes anything that is good about the flavor.
Mouthfeel- Very low if any carbonation. Flat and past it's prime.
Drinkability- This would have been a drain dumper, but I'm taking it back to get refunded. Would like to try another in the future, just not one thats 10 years old. Five years would be nice to shoot for.
08-10-2005 21:34:20 | More by GClarkage
2.6/5 rDev -29.5%
Cork and capped 11,2cL bottle, vintage unknown labeled at 6.5% ABV, poured into a tulip.
The cork slides out with nary a sound and no carbonation that I can detect. An aggressive pour produces a small collection of large bubbles that recedes immediately to a razor thin collar.
The aroma is weird and smells almost like spoiled apple juice. There is definitely a deep musty funk with some fruit sweetness and an interesting spiciness that's tough to pinpoint, definitely some pepper and anise.
The taste is even weirder, if possible, and not in a good way this time. It's extremely watery overall with a tart fruitiness mixed with a heavy musty character. The spices, especially anise are most present in the finish.
The mouthfeel is almost completely still and extremely slick with a dry tart sourness in the finish.
This may have just been a bad bottle, but I really didn't like this one at all. The smell resembled something like a saison, but the taste was just not that pleasant and the complete lack of carbonation didn't help. Yuck.
12-02-2009 00:54:52 | More by gford217
2.63/5 rDev -28.7%
Heard great things about this,found it in Buffalo bought a 96 vintage.Started promising I liked the color and the nice head,after that all downhill.Had little to no smell,the taste was peppery (overpoweringly so) and way to sour!The beer was way to thin and watery to go along with that taste.Didnt finish the bottle just to peppery and thin for me,waiste of six bucks.
02-24-2003 11:38:18 | More by oberon
2.8/5 rDev -24.1%
A 1995 bottle. Probably not cellared properly. Cork sunk into bottle. Empty bottle has residual stain on it with upright beer mark. Saison, from what I've heard, is not the best at sitting for 15 years before being drunk.
Rim of bubbles along the rim. Rich gold by a candle.
Smells a little pruney, little saison funk, orange cheesy.
Tastes doggy or "canine" (as D.O. says); geuzy; tart with less bitter.
Watery juice mouthfeel.
01-26-2011 16:19:18 | More by beerdepartment
2.83/5 rDev -23.3%
2002 vintage, 750ml bottle shared with my wife during a broiling backyard barbeque. This beer turned out not to be the interesting but crisp refresher we were hoping for. Apparently and anecdotally there were tremendous batch and vintage variations and our bottle alas was not one of the better ones. Not much sign of carbonation upon popping the cork; pours a completely hazed over apricot color without head or lacing. Odd aroma with a bit of oxidation; some tart lemon; pepper; sweet bready malts; hay and barn funkiness. Not super appealing.
Unfortunately the taste confirms the nose; slight oxidized wet cardboard, some tart lemony notes that don’t save the beer; black pepper, vague spices, and bready malt without much sweetness. Still, doesn’t dry up enough. Acidic and with touches of hay and funk muddled in with the rest of the flavors. Maybe some green apple skins as well. Kind of hangs there in the mouth. Very little carbonation, medium to slightly thin body; lifeless. Not quite a drainpour, but close. An interesting experiment and thankfully an inexpensive one, but not an experience I’d want to repeat either.
07-18-2012 23:39:26 | More by tobelerone
2.88/5 rDev -22%
Clear, golden pink in hue with a peachy tint. There wasnt much animation and thus the head was never replenished. At the zenith the foam was about a half finger in height before it quickly faded to a soapy collar. No lacing. There isnt anything noteworthy about the beer at this point. It is dead. Thankfully the color is attractive. Im intrigued. The nose is funky, mouthwatering acidity, woody apples, farmhouse cider, strawberries, and flowers, quite peppery too. Tart. The sourness is at the back but strong in potency. Hay. It is very lightly spicy. Musty. Oak. Orange peel. Plus there is a kiss of barnyard that cant escape the shadow of the sourness. Inviting maybe more accurately intriguing, regardless Im compelled to take a sip. The palate is a letdown from the nose (and appearance). I purchased an 11.2-ounce bottle in Ames, IA that was in awful condition and I had to dump it out. Luckily I had purchased a 750ml bottle in Burnsville, MN. This review is from that bottle and the taste is improved but not vastly. This beer was bottled in 04/1995. It shows some age. It is not oxidized or anything but it feels a bit tired. The sourness of the nose is not found in the same volume in the taste. Sure I can find it easily but it is lost in a sea of green apples, oak, cork, and (sadly) water. Pepperiness is too secondary as well. Bitterness is moderate and appropriate. A malt backbone is desperately needed. It is far too thin and this doesnt help round the palate out. Spiciness is weak, orange peel, ginger, and coriander it seems. Hay. Musty. The finish is dry but not devastatingly so. Overall the palate is weak, more flavors are needed, and in different amounts as well. For a Saison it lacks complexity. A dud. The mouthfeel is really lacking, the carbonation is absent, plus it is so watery. Thin. Medium-light in body when it flexes. Improvement is need, badly. Not drinkable either. There isnt anything in the beer that I am drawn too. I gave it two tries and that is enough. I love Saisons too much to drink a substandard offering. Oh well. I cant recommend this beer.
12-13-2004 04:16:42 | More by bditty187
2.93/5 rDev -20.6%
No date marked on the bottle unfortunately. 750ml bottle to GL oversized snifter.
Appearance: Dark russet orange, touch of ruby. Head is white and circles around the edge of the glass.
Smell: Aroma is very muted, faint spices over top a musty malt.
Taste: Fairly rustic. Not as refined as some of the more popular versions of the style. The yeast doesn't take a hold of this beer as much as saison yeasts tend to. Lacking is the refreshing lemon and pepper flavors. In its place is a muddled mix of biscuit and faint coriander. In the back is a touch of barnyardness that barely manages to distinct this beer as a saison and not an ESB.
Mouthfeel: Fairly strong carbonation, but not as lively as some saisons. Doesn't detract from the beer though.
Overall: The beer gets better as it warms, and some more of spices come out. Still, it lacks complexity. A good example of the more rustic and less refined versions of saisons that were likely popular when this recipe was first created.
07-03-2011 22:08:30 | More by jslot38
2.93/5 rDev -20.6%
Moderate head over a hazy dark amber brew. Head slowly settles to a ring, but leaves some lace. Decent looking brew.
Not nearly as much presence or muscle a I would expect for a saison. Lacks a certain sturdiness somehow. Noe is subdued with some dark fruit and earth. Taste is dominated by tart fruit and has some earthiness, an occasional almost a fungal quality, but not consistent enough to decide if that's interesting or off-putting. Light-to-moderate mouthfeel, not really too much in the way of spice or yeast.
Not what it could be.
10-24-2010 15:30:54 | More by TerryW
2.95/5 rDev -20.1%
Appearance: pours a clear orange color with no head.
Smell: strong lemon zest tones, earthiness, and loads of funk.
Taste: this beer was past prime despite the bottle staying to store it. It is dated 07/1995. This has loads of lemon zest and barnyard funkiness. Sourness is strong. Yeast flavors are softer. This is just too old and surprising it was in a store during a recent purchase.
Mouthfeel: lightly crisp throughout. Medium bodied. Aftertaste is long as the sourness lingers for minutes.
Drinkability: this was worth a few sips, but this one does not age as the bottle label states it should.
11-08-2008 23:33:37 | More by Gavage
Saison De Pipaix from Brasserie à Vapeur
83 out of 100 based on 222 ratings.