Vapeur Cochonne - Brasserie à Vapeur

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BA SCORE
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195 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 195
Reviews: 133
rAvg: 3.41
pDev: 20.82%
Wants: 3
Gots: 8 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

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Ratings: 195 | Reviews: 133
Reviews by BeerForMuscle:
Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.07/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

A - Murky brown body, thin carbonation on top. Brown soot on the bottom, swilled and poured.

S - Tangy, fruity esters, aromas of apple butter and fig newtons. Carmel mineral water.

T - Good complexity with flavors of apple skin, wild cherry, honey, apple butter and dry wood. A certain mineral twang, sweet, tangy and metallic.

M - Fizzy carbonation, medium body, clean the whole way through.

O - A wonderful beer; complex yet clean, fruity and refreshing.

More User Reviews:
Photo of RoyalT
1.45/5  rDev -57.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Appearance – Orange in color with some carbonation but no head whatsoever.

Smell – Very faint and bland spicy aroma with a touch of yeast. There’s not much there, but I’m picking up a sour-type of smell that doesn’t remind me of any BSDA that I’ve had before.

Taste – Ouch! This is sour as hell. I can’t taste anything other than a horrible sour taste.

Mouthfeel – This was quite the pucker-upper. It was thin, fizzy, and lame.

Sinkability – There’s no way that I’m finishing this one.

Photo of shapudding
4.24/5  rDev +24.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

No dating. Cloudy, dark and oaky brown, with tons of sediment floating throughout. Cannot see through it. Massive almond head finally settled down to only a small ring of creamy bubbles with a bit of a small island in the center. Lovely fruity scents of sherry, dark cherry and orange peel. I allowed this to warm a bit before opening, nice! Good amount of carbination, but smooth and flowing, silky....
Flavors of cream sherry and dried bing cherries. Caramelly sweetness, roasted malts, spices poking through in the background. Great flavors so very well blended. Leaves alot to savor on your tongue. Good sipper beer.

Photo of Jason
4.04/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 11.2 oz slender Euro style bottle with no freshness date, this is no problem for this brew being that it is at 9.0% abv and bottle conditioned.

Appearance: Lots of foam for the initial pouring, sadly it drops down to a ring of lace. Chunks of yeast stay whole a in suspension within a semi-clear reddish amber.

Smell: Solvent alcohol, tropical fruit punch, citric peel, musty powdery yeast and a vague sugary malty sweetness make up the complex and inviting aroma.

Taste: Slick mouth feel with an apparent medium body. Big viscous carbonation that slowly flows through the mouth. Solvent and fusel alcohols dance on the taste buds with a never ending and ever warming spiciness. Fruity is not even the word to use, tropical punch with a ripeness that you would never think would be in a beer is more like it. Musty powdery yeast with hints of coriander. An earthy bitterness comes out of nowhere, obviously from the roasted chicory. Hints of a rum and triple sec mixed drink from the fruitiness and raw sugar like flavour hits hard with a spicy phenolic surprise in the finish.

Notes: An in your face Belgian beer, it wakes up the taste buds shakes them a couple of times and then does it over and over again. This brew is all over the place but in a great way.

Photo of merlin48
3.13/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

My 11.2 oz bottle has the same label as Brent describes in his review here. Pours a slightly hazed, orange/copper body with a short lived offwhite head. Attractive lacing is left down the side of the goblet.

Aroma has spicy coriander and a pervasive, and curious, chocolate note. Faint aroma of orange peel is in the background.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and has plenty of fizzy carbonation.

Taste is unusual for this style. Very spicy, with some bitter chocolate, vinous alcohol burn, and a hint of bittersweet orangepeel. Alcohol burn becomes abrasive at room temperature.

This bottle appears new, based on the label's mint condition. Label states this "conserves" very well. Perhaps, this one will improve with some age. Overall, at this stage it's a sour and bitter ale with an overwhelming alcohol presence that is burning, instead of warming. No problem finishing the bottle, but I wouldn't care for another.

Photo of kingcrowing
4.05/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

33cl bottle poured into a tulip glass, had at Delirium Cafe.

Pours a nice deep dark amber/ruby color with a small while head. Very nice. Nose is hoppy, crisp and sweet with a nice malt backbone to it.

Taste is awesome, very rich and smooth lots of carbonation and sweet caramel flavors. Very tasty with a very full mouthfeel, check this out if you can find it.

Photo of ADR
3.67/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Low carbonation, head is minimal for a bottle-conditioned Belgian (I hope it wasn't a leaking bottle, it had a cap and a cork). Smell of cherry and alcohol with a reddish sienna opaque color. Coating body and tart flavors with a peach and berry impression and an alcohol "catch" at the swallow. I didn't find this as complex in flavor as it was big in flavor, sort of like a soured Chardonney or something. I hope I tasted it close to what its supposed to be, or at least an undercharged but full-flavored version.

Photo of Metalmonk
3.86/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours out a sizzling head, certainly one of the noisiest heads ever, as it snaps, crackles and pops on top of the hazy rust/amber color underneath. Tons of carbonation, and some floaters, this one looks raw and authentic.

Aroma is fruity and spicy, made just a bit deviant smelling thanks to the influence of the yeast. For all the activity of the head, it doesn't let off much aroma, as what's here is quite subdued.

Flavor is pretty wild, a tough one to get a handle on. It's got fruitiness at the forefront, but the fruit succulence has been molested by sour and spicy elements. There's a chocolate-y weirdness that meshes well with a desserty port-like element. Cola flavor is present too, made stronger by the fact of the intense, almost soda-like carbonation. Finishes with a musty spiciness that twists into bitterness, laying on the tongue for the duration.

One of Belgium's most interesting beers, its taste is an acquired one, and maybe lacking some direction...some might even call it a mess, but its personality cannot be denied. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An interesting tasting beer to throw your friends off. Mix it up with others. In a spicy meal you can share a bottle. Not sure it would hold up by itself. ALcohol and carbonation there and a bunch of spices and tastes on the tongue that seemed like spiced rum. Bottle's wild picture makes you contemplate your life.

Photo of dgallina
4.2/5  rDev +23.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy brown with small creamy head and decent lacing. Smells of very sweet candi sugars and caramel malts on a base of fusel alcohols. Starts caramel sweet, develops into plums and dark fruits, and finishes with very strong chocolate-laced brandy flavors. Creamy and medium-bodied in the mouth; light carbonation. Sticky and sweet but quite tasty. A very nice dessert beer.

Photo of jbonapar
2.93/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Purchased at Pub Italia in Ottawa.
Pours a caramel brown with a slight head in the glass.
Smell: Very sweet caramel, honey and raisins.

Taste: Certainly not the best, but reasonable. Nice sweet fruits and caramel. Raisins and other dried Fruits. Nice carbonation with a moderately syrupy consistency.

overall a reasonable beer, certainly not as special as many other belgian beers.

Photo of KTCamm
4.43/5  rDev +29.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Champagne style bottle poured into a Duvel glass.

Pours dark amber reddish with a layer of foam sitting atop the brew. Cherries, cola, fruity nose. Rich complex flavor, very fruity. Raisins, plums. Some chocolate in there too - and it builds with warmth. Firm strong carbonation builds to a great mouthfeel. Very complex and flavorful. Excellent.

Photo of hotstuff
2.72/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer just didn't quite fit the bill for a Belgian Ale in my opinion.It really tasted "off" its mark.There was virtually no head and there were fine sized bubbles that quickly dissipated.The body was very yeasty and cloudy with a copper hue.The nose was lightly sweet with a weird taste to it.The mouthfeel was tingly, smooth and medium bodied.The lacing was sparse.

Photo of Samp01
3.56/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark cloudy brown amber with a small beige head. Aroma is of caramel malt, Belgian yeast, some dark fruit esters, plum and raisin notes. Taste same as aroma with some mildly sour yeast flavors, tart dark fruit. Palate is a medium body with low carbonation. Finish has some caramel malt, yeast, mild tart notes with dark fruit, notes of plums and raisins. Overall not the best but a good drinking flavorful brew,

Photo of beerthulhu
3.5/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a light raspberry red color with a nice frothy off tan head. Lots of yeasty sludge in bottom of bottle (750ml). Some peppery floaties.

S: Musky aroma, stale fruit (apples, pears) for nose along with some alcohol.

T: Cantelope, honeydew flavor with sweet caramel. Big fruitiness to start with some sour bitterness for a finish. A little ripe honey dew flavor brings some juice like sweetness to the flavor.

M: Soft carbonation, smooth palate with some alcohol detection. Very rich caramel for an aftertaste with good bread notes and dried fruit.

D: A decent example.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.06/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma consists of sweet malt with some funky notes which don't balance well with the malt. Taste is also dominated by some nice medium sweet Belgian malt notes with a weird funky finish which I can't say for sure that I really enjoy. Full body with limited filtration and some great carbonation. Interesting but not sure I would go for this very often.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.77/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewery aged 1996 vintage.

It pours with a body that is much lighter than expected equalling a honey straw color. There really is no head, just a off white skim. Nose has notes of crisp green apple, honey comb, and grassy vinegar. A bit of oak and thin port is also present in the smell. Tnters the mouth with a initial sharp tartness that quickly calms and draws a creamy feel. Crisp green apple sour feel rolls with a honey feel and yeasty, tones on the back of the tongue. Alchol is nowhere to be found in the flavor profile. Mouthfeel is yeasty thickness due to the sour feel to the beer. This beer is nicely drinkable for as tart as it is. Looking at other reviews it looks like this beer benefiets from a little age.

Photo of jfmorey
2/5  rDev -41.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

On tap at Pizzeria Paradiso in Georgetown (DC).

I do not understand calling this a Belgian Strong, a style that I have always enjoyed. The appearance was not bad, a hazy orange amber, and the smell was tart and funky, not unusual for a Belgian.

The real disclaimer that I must make is that this review is based upon only two sips, I could go no further. The predominant flavor was spoiled orange peel. Reminded me of the oranges with cloves stuck in them used as home-made room deodorizers when I was a kid; strong enough to smell up an entire room.

Now looking at the other reviews, and the variation in description of color and taste, I have to wonder if this is the same beer everyone else drank.

Photo of pluto
3.73/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted at the Vapeur brewery after a Sunday brewery tour, amidst a throng of bike racers. Unusual dispensing technique into a large stein like apparatus from the tap which is then drained from the bottom. Our pourer had run out of smaller glasses so we each had an imperial pint of this beer which had a nice amber cloudy color, somewhat spicy and medicinal flavor that mellowed through the course of the beer. Slight astringency. Good mouthfeel. The bottle label is a bit disturbing.

Photo of Dukeofearl
3.19/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours a slightly murky brown with no carbonation whatsoever. Is there something worng here, or is it supposed to be this way?

Aroma is pretty pleasant- I bet it would be better with a head involved. But it's sweet with malty caramel and some plum/prune notes. Alcohol there to a slight extent.

Flavor is sharp- probably from the yeast I accidentally poured in. Alcohol is predominent around the toffee malts, caramel, and deep dark brandied candies. But overall, not all that exciting considering the things there. Maybe it's the yeast.

Mouthfeel is really disappointing, considering the lack of carbonation.

Not hot on this one. I would like to try it again if I run across it, just in case there was something wrong with this one.

Photo of yamar68
4.02/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

1996 vintage - the same year that:
- eBay was launched
- "Wannabe" by The Spice Girls was no. 1 on the US music charts
- gas cost $1.22 per gallon

The bottle is definitely showing it's age... cap is covered in rust and the cork is beginning to disintegrate but still manages to produce a quiet "pop." It pours out a nice looking burnt tangerine colored body, producing a thin beige collar that actually leaves behind a bit of lace with some booze oil. It looks as though this particular bottle fared better than many of its brothers and sisters. So far so good.

As others have noted, this has taken a distinctively tart direction. Apple skins, wet hay bales, some tart pear qualities. A bit of oxidation is also beginning to surface, like soggy newspaper. Lemongrass and some more of those pale fruits. A faint skeleton of caramel malt is buried deep beneath all of that.

Not quite as focused on the palate. Tart apple cider character blended with pear or peach juice - maybe even a bit of pineapple as well. I was worried that some of those spices would still be hanging around to sabotage the unexpectedly tart palate. Instead, it finishes up nice and dry with some mellow chardonnay flavors and apple skin. I can't see this one improving but if you've got one sitting around, don't hesitate to open it up - very unique stuff at this point.

As you might expect, the first taste caught me completely off guard. But as I sit here nursing the bottle, it's definitely growing on me.

Photo of thekanna
3.6/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark opaque maroon with a thin white head.

S: Strong scent of apples, along with yeast and mulling spices. There's a faint malty sweetness in the background, vinegar, and some resident spiciness, although I can't quite pinpoint which spice it most resembles.

T: A vinegary apple cider taste with mulling spices. This is followed by a very significant, hard-hitting alcohol character that becomes less pungent and dulls by the sip.

M: Medium body, some active carbonation on the tongue.

D: Interesting to sip, but alcohol taste is a little overwhelming. Probably will not have again.

Photo of irishkyle21
3.97/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy copper color. What little head came from the pour is gone almost immediately, no lacing as well.

Smells of sour fruits, spices and sweet malts. A bit of funk is also apparent.

Tastes like it smells, fruits, sourness, sweet malts, spices and wood.

Photo of tatterdash
3.57/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a mahogany red, with a white head with not much lacing. Aroma of sweet raisins, with sourness creeping in as it warmed. Taste was caramelly, with some dark fruits and raisins. Mouthfeel was not as smooth as I would have liked. This is a good beer, but the naked pigs kinda turn me off... I once got a Rochefort 6 served in the glassware for this beer and it almost ruined it... Luckily the bartender apologized... He bowed his head and said "I have failed you." I love my Smokeless Joe...

Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -12%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Amber-colored, not particularly light or dark, and mostly opaque. The first pour creates a fizzy, champagne-like head. Subsequent pours produce more of a standard oversized Belgian head.

Smell: Initially it's pretty earthy with a mustiness that reminds me of gueuze or lambic. Aromas of dried fruit are present as well, namely dried peach.

Taste: Simultaneously sweet and sour, but not in an over-the-top way; it's a fairly subtle beer. Apple cider and mead both come to mind. Spices are noticeable but I can't pin down specific flavors - it's pretty unusual. The finish is a touch dry and slightly metallic, with a mild herbal bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Fairly light-bodied with a sharp champagne-like fizz on the tongue.

Notes - An unusual beer, not one I'd revisit any time soon.

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